Linux-Misc Digest #360, Volume #20               Wed, 26 May 99 19:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why???? (Gergo Barany)
  Re: `insmod ppa' error (Sylvia Wong)
  Curious result from 2.3.3 Kernel compile (TurkBear)
  Re: smtp without registered domain? (Juergen Heinzl)
  Lilo having a problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux Assembler (Matt Ulrich)
  reading files on 4mm DAT written under MS-DOS (Jungshik Shin)
  Re: WordPerfect gunzip (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Peter Seebach)
  www.veronashop.com ("www.veronashop.com")
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Stefaan A Eeckels)
  Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (Mario Klebsch)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom ("Chad Mulligan")
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom ("Chad Mulligan")
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Olaf Walkowiak)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why????
Date: 26 May 1999 19:24:39 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Santiago de Pablo wrote:
>I think is easier and safer to use MTOOLS to access floppies. If any user
>can mount floppies, and execute a shell from there with root priviledges,
>then he/she gain root identity!

How would you go about starting a root shell if you can mount a floppy?
Besides, if your users have physical access to the machine, getting a
root shell is trivial anyway.

Gergo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sylvia Wong)
Subject: Re: `insmod ppa' error
Date: 26 May 1999 19:25:52 GMT

maybe you should try modprobe ppa instead.

-- 
Auckland research student, an endangered species.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TurkBear)
Subject: Curious result from 2.3.3 Kernel compile
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:33:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

After compiling a 2.3.3 kernel ( I like risks),
everything works file, but the login screen reads


Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo)
Kernel 2.3.2 on an i586


Why 2.3.2 for the 2.3.3 kernel....?

Just curious.

John G    

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: smtp without registered domain?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:49:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Short wrote:
>In article <7igs53$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>says...
>> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Son Trung Nguyen) writes:
>> 
>> Oh, and finally if do this make sure your machine is in an open relay
>> for anyone in the world. Such machines are used by spammers to work
>> around problems, like their machines have been widely backholed and
>> otherwise blocked so they can not send mail directly. (Cyberpromo
>> had this problem, if you were around when Spamford was a wanted
>> spammer).

Use gcc -static, not -Bstatic.

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lilo having a problem
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:09:07 GMT

Lilo is having a problem with my hard drive. It says that because it is
more than 1024 cylinders that Lilo will not work right. Will Redhat 6.0
fix this. By the way I am using Redhat 5.2


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From: Matt Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Assembler
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:21:37 GMT

Hey..

I was wondering if anyone knew of a linux based assembler.. something
similar perhaps to TASM?  I've looked at the web site, and unless I'm
looking in the wrong places, couldn't find it there.. any suggestions?
Thanks..

Matty U!

--
Matthew Ulrich
Electrical Engineering
The Cooper Union for the Advancement
Of Science and Art
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From: Jungshik Shin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reading files on 4mm DAT written under MS-DOS
Date: 26 May 1999 19:38:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I have a 4mm DAT tape with about 100 files backed up under MS-DOS
using a program called 'tape'(Colorado sth??). My trouble is I don't
have  access to any machine running MS-DOS with 4mm DAT drive(the tape
was recored somewhere else and because of malfunctioning of Unix
machines there, I wasn't able to convert it to Unix tar before leaving).
I'm wondering if  there any Linux utility to read this tape (recorded by
'tape' under MS-DOS).  In case there's no such utility, I guess I might
try running the DOS program 'tape' under DOS emulator under Linux.
However, before resorting to that, I like to find a Linux-native
solution.

   Any help would be greatly appreciated.


         Jungshik Shin

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect gunzip
Date: 26 May 1999 14:01:53 -0400

"Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Rod Smith wrote:
> 
> > ..however, as the usual way to get to the files is via links on web pages.
> 
> I must disagree here. Most files you can presumably click on and
> download on web sites are located on ftp servers. Look at the URL
> while scrolling your mouse over such a link. That's why every
> serious computer user writes down the URL and then uses a ftp client
> to make the download.

is it possible to automate this process?

1) it's hard cut/copy the url with a mouse since you tend to hit the
   link itself.

2) i'd rather use ncftp, can i get netscape to spawn an ncftp
   background get operation instead of doing the ftp itself?

3) failing the first two, is there a way to configure netscape to a)
   not change the filename (more of a problem when using the windows
   version of netscape) and b) not try to unzip or repackage the file?

-- 
johan kullstam

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:06:22 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ed Avis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Peter Seebach wrote:
>>That's one of the things Lott did - or rather, he studied numbers from places
>>where these things happen.  In general, violent crimes go sharply down when
>>you start letting people carry guns legally.

>...in a country where criminals already have guns.  I assume the
>studies applied only to the US.

Yes.  I'd love to see some research on other contexts as well.  It's
clear that the correlation between guns and crime isn't going to turn out
to be easy to understand... Too much social interaction.

>You would not necessarially get the same results in a situation where
>to start with, neither criminals nor the public had access to
>firearms, and then gun laws were relaxed.

Well, I don't think there's anywhere in the world where people genuinely don't
have access to firearms...  :)  That said, I would guess that relaxing gun
laws would probably lower the rate of violent crime anyway, although there
might well be a short blip higher.

-s
-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 26 May 1999 22:12:52 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Peter Seebach wrote:
> 
>>That's one of the things Lott did - or rather, he studied numbers from places
>>where these things happen.  In general, violent crimes go sharply down when
>>you start letting people carry guns legally.
> 
> ...in a country where criminals already have guns.  I assume the
> studies applied only to the US.
> 
> You would not necessarially get the same results in a situation where
> to start with, neither criminals nor the public had access to
> firearms, and then gun laws were relaxed.
You must be joking - even in countries where it's extremely
difficult to get arms legally, criminals have no problem
acquiring them. 
What seems to be evident is that the use of firearms for
"crimes of passion" is significanty less in countries
where guns are difficult to obtain "legally", as the
perpetrators were law-abing citizens before the crime.

Career criminals never have problems obtaining firearms,
as they don't care about the law. By definition, gun control
laws *only* affect the law-abiding citizen. 

-- 
Stefaan
-- 

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From: Mario Klebsch <Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:13:44 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown) writes:

>On 25 May 1999 03:33:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>On 24 May 1999 23:42:15 GMT, 
>> Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to figure out WHY microemacs isn't included in any of the
>>> distributions?!! It's great!
>>> (jove is better, but uemacs would be good :-)
>>
>>Because the microEmacs license forbids it to the point that it is a
>>license violation even to put it on a $2 CD from CheapBytes.  (It's one
>>of those evil 'anti-commercial' licenses.)
>>
>>I've vainly tried to discuss the matter with Dan Lawrence, microEmacs'
>>maintainer, and he's adamant about how the 'evil' GPL is somehow
>>depriving programmers of money.

It is included in OS-9, too, and they are not selling cheap CDs,
they want real money for it. So there must be a way...

73, Mario
--
Mario Klebsch           [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:06:30 -0700


Christopher B. Browne wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 25 May 1999 15:52:25 -0700, Chad Mulligan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>>
>>Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7idj7f$kpi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>In article <7id6s1$hd8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>I guess Ho Chi Mihn wasn't sane, either were the Afgan Rebels that
tackled
>>>>the Sovs.
>>>
>>The US wasn't a "First World" Govt?  The USSR either?
>
>No.
>
>The US is a New World government, as are Canada and Mexico.  (And likely
>Central/South American nations.)
>
>I'm less sure of which world the USSR is characterized as; most likely it
is
>considered part of the Old World.
>
>[People who don't know history...]
>
Do know history.  Was referring to technical development level.

[People who don't read context...]
>
>>>In the first case, it was a foreign government and in the second, it
>>>wasn't a First World government. The situation I describe doesn't apply
>>>in either case.
>>>
>>Both are a case of the local citizenry overthrowing a tyrannical
government,
>>in what way doesn't that apply to the situation that existed in 1775?
>
>The Vietnam conflict is surprisingly comparable to the one of the 1770s; it
>represented a situation of one nation being attacked by a much more
powerful
>nation that happened to have very long supply lines, and having a powerful
>ally that was opposed to the "more powerful nation."
>
The Vietnam (French Indo Chinese) War began before WWII and it was exactly
like the 1770's in that a local armed citizen militia was dedicated to
overthrow a europeon colonial power. The US involvement still puzzles me, I
have no idea what Eisenhower was thinking.  Dien Bien Phu should have given
him a clue.
>
>The US had an advantage over England in that it had short supply lines.
>
>That is helpful for a defender.
>
Assuming you have supplies :-)
>
>The US had some support from France, that was a nation "not terribly
>friendly to England," also helpful.
>
As I recall, they were actively at war at the time in India and the Middle
East.  I also recall that England was involved with at least two other wars
at the time.
>--
>Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:09:53 -0700


Ed Avis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Peter Seebach wrote:
>
>>However, in the u.s., crime rates vary directly with gun control, and
>>inversely with gun availability.
>
>Although that doesn't imply a causation.  Maybe the local governments
>are trying to deal with crime problems by restricting guns.  Of
>course, you can argue that such a policy does not work.  A possible
>way to find a causation would be to take an area with an average crime
>level and no gun control, impose strict firearms laws, and see if the
>crime rate goes up or down.  Alternatively, you could take an area
>with strict laws and lift them.
>
There was an experiment along those lines 10-15 years ago in FL.  A town,
don't remember the name, passed a law REQUIRING all adults to wear sidearms.
The crime rate went way down.
>
>--
>Ed Avis



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From: Olaf Walkowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 26 May 1999 01:18:22 +0200

Hello,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Edstrom) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       Olaf Walkowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Hiran Chaudhuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> >  
> ....
> > 
> > Apache has to do a lot of work (depending on the actual configuration)
> > doing uri/filename translation, detecting the right mime-type, looking
> > for .htaccess files aso. With Squid "in front" this work has not to be
> > done on every access. 
> > 
> 
> Is this true?  If squid ignores .htaccess constraints it would be a
> security risk.

No. Apache has already done the work, Squid just caches the file. If
you give correct content-lenght and expires headers, apache is not
even contacted if a cache object is considered "fresh".

Squid has no access to the files that are served by apache, so if an
access is restricted, squid will not get it since apache doesn't give
it to squid (Squid just get a "forbidden" answer in case access is
denied).

Besides, a proxy is not allowed to cache restricted objects
(f.e. password protected) and squid behaves correct here.

CU
Olaf
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