Linux-Misc Digest #360, Volume #21               Wed, 11 Aug 99 05:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Red Hat Cable Modem (Mediaone) Probs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: X a bit weird on AGP SiS 6326 video card. (text, cursor invisible)B (Reungyos 
Vorajenwanich)
  Re: lower to upper case? (B'ichela)
  Re: Server Chat & Web forum software for Linux? ("Michael Moon")
  Re: What I think of linux. ("Jonathan Wilson")
  how? Linux replace Windows. ("~Stuart~")
  Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Ketil Z Malde)
  Re: more questions (Sergio Lalli)
  Re: how? Linux replace Windows. (Sergio Lalli)
  Re: what NIC + Hub do you pros use? (Greg Leblanc)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Ketil Z Malde)
  Re: DosLinux Questions (Philip Shore)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Red Hat Cable Modem (Mediaone) Probs
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:08:41 GMT

Your comments were very helpful however I have one addition. I struggled
with this for a few days and finally found a solution that seems to
work, at least for Cox@home. I have been working on bringing up a second
system running RH6.0 with kernel release 2.2.10 to replace my old
system(running RH5.0). This system acts as a server and firewall for my
home network. After trying the version on the RH6.0 CD I downloaded the
latest pump and the latest dhcpcd from the Red Hat web-site(pump 0-6-7-1
and DHCPCD 1-3-17p12) and they did not work. I struggled with it for a
few days reading the HOWTO's and message boards before finally coming
across a later version of DHPCD(dpcpcd-rhcn-1.3.17pl3-1) on the
"rpmfind" web-site. The link is included below:

http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/rhcn/i386/dhcpcd-rhcn-1.3.17-pl3-1.i386
.html

I tried it and much to my surprise it worked. If anyone knows what the
difference is I would be very interested.

Next step is getting ip masq and ipchains working on the second system.
Hopefully this will go a little more smoothly.

Jeff


In article <7op55h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Pat Duczyminski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure if I figured ot the problme or not, but it is working
now.  I
> replaced my 10base-T 3c509 card which worked only in windows with a
> 3c905B-TX 10/100 NIC and re-installed Linux(Mandrake) and it found he
card
> with no problem and connected to the cable modem without a problem in
DHCP.
> I just had to call Mediaone and give them the new MAC address so they
could
> authorize the card.
>
> It's finally over.  I have been working on this forever and it's
> over...Finally.
>
> Doug O'Leary wrote in message ...
> >[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.misc and a copy was sent
to
> >the cited author.]
> >
> >Hi;
> >
> >I've recently won this battle between Linux and Redhat 6.0.  It was
long
> >and protracted, but I won it!
> >
> >There are a couple of things that you should check.
> >
> >1. As you state in another follow up, you'll need to eliminate the
> >PnP mode on the 3c509.  I7 had to download the drivers from 3com's
web
> >site and, once the PnP mode was eliminated, I also had to reintroduce
the
> >NIC to Windows.  That all went pretty much as expected.
> >
> >2. The next thing you need to do is identify which irq and base I/O
> >address your nic is using.  Mine was using irq 9 and base I/O of
0x210.
> >You can identify these settings from the Windows Control Panel, click
on
> >System->devices->Network->3c509->properties.
> >
> >3. Boot into Linux.  Execute "ifconfig eth0".  If it doesn't show
> >anything, execute "insmod 3c509".  That will load the device driver
> >module for that card.  Reexecute "ifconfig eth0".  If you still don't
see
> >anything, you'll have to rebuild your kernel.  Pretty explicit
directions
> >for that can be found in the HOWTOs which should have been loaded to
your
> >/usr/doc/HOWTO directory.
> >
> >4. Presupposing that Linux sees your card, look at the bottom of the
> >output of the infconfig command and check what it says is the irq and
> >base I/O address.  If they're not the same, edit the
/etc/conf.modules
> >file thusly:
> >
> >alias eth0 3c509
> >options 3c509 io=0x210 irq=12
> >
> >Obviously, you'll need to put whatever the correct irq and base i/o
> >address for your card.
> >
> >5. Reboot your system and check the card again.  You can check if the
> >module is loaded via the lsmod comand.
> >
> >6. Presupposing, you've made it this far, your card is now out of PnP
> >mode and Linux is correctly configure to talk to it.  The next step
is to
> >run either pump or dhcpcp.  Both will require the use of a -h option
with
> >a hostname.  I've heard alternate suggestions of whatever you want
your
> >host to be named as or what your email account is.  I don't think
that
> >matters, but realize that it's supposed to be in caps.  For example:
> >
> >pump -i eth0 -h DOUG
> >
> >is what I use.
> >
> >7. My bet is that your first couple of attempts at that are going to
> >fail.  I've tried just about every version of dhcpcd that I could get
my
> >hands on and none of them worked.  What finally did work is the
version
> >of pump that is hiding on Redhat's errata site.  Download that and
stash
> >it in a directory that you can see from Linux.  If you have the
Mandrake
> >version of Redhat Linux, you'll have to uninstall pump via the rpm
> >command and install the one that you downloaded.  Apparently,
Mandrake's
> >version of pump is later than the one on Redhat's; however,
Mandrake's
> >doesn't work with Mediaone's DHCP server.  Go figure.
> >
> >Long winded, I know, but it was a long battle to get this thing
working.
> >I'd appreciate hearing if these steps worked for you.  If so, maybe
we
> >can get them stashed into a FAQ somewhere or on one of those cable
modem
> >HOWTOs.
> >
> >HTH...
> >
> >Doug
> >--
> >==============
> >Douglas K. O'Leary
> >Senior System Admin
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >==============
>
>


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From: Reungyos Vorajenwanich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X a bit weird on AGP SiS 6326 video card. (text, cursor invisible)B
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:34:40 +0700

Hi.
   I has use SiS6326 AGP Card too,when i use my X Window i must edit file
/etc/XF86Config and add option "no_linear" then everthing work fine.

Rey.

"G. Georgiev" wrote:

>         Hi,
>
>         I did install XFree86 3.3.3.1 from the slackware 4.0 (Thanks,
> Patrick!)  cdrom and it behaves a bit strange, the main problem being
> there are not any letters in xterm and in the menus or whatever text in
> any program. Programs function normal, except there is nothing to read in,
> like if all letters are the same color as the background. I did try xterm,
> color_xterm, rxvt, file managers, others.
>
>         The other problem is that the pointer appears as a big white
> square, not an arrow or the well-known cross ('X'). xsetroot -def does
> change the background, but not the pointer.
>
>         The video card is on-board SiS 6326 chipset with 8M of memory, I
> run the distribution-supplied 2.2.6 kernel. I was forced to use the
> 'noaccel' option, will try to improve the performance later.
>
>         When I use KDE window manager some programs have their text visible,
> some doesn't, when I switch to fvwm95 window manager almost all programs
> come without any visible letter.
>
>         So, how to make fonts visible and the cursor better?
>
>                                 Thanks, George.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Subject: Re: lower to upper case?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:07:32 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:40:31 -0500, scable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>scable wrote:
>> 
>> In bash, tcsh, or csh, is there a way -- be it a builtin, a utility, or
>> some way of writing a script -- to take an arbitrary string input and
>> turn it into a string whose letters are all upper case?
>
>Many thanks to everyone who helped me out on this.
Thats what tr is good at. watch
tr [a-z] [A-Z] 
that changes allow lowercase input (in this case keyboard) to all uper
case (screen) it acts a simple filter. Now to change a varible to uper
case try this with the borne shell
string="lowercase
stringn=`echo $string | tr [a-z] [A-Z]`

I just tried it. and it works well!

-- 
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=========================================================================
Y2K appears to be the Baby Boomers mid-life crisis, and it has the
potential to be a dandy.
                        -- Anonymnous --
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From: "Michael Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server Chat & Web forum software for Linux?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:37:19 -0700

I am looking for software that will allow people to post messages and
replies but in a browser format, not a newsgroup.  Other terms would be
message board, or bbs.  I have used a very good commercial product for
Windows call Webboard by O'Reilly, but I am looking for something free or
low cost.


Sam Sim wrote in message ...
>Michael,
>
>What do you mean by web forum?
>
>Sam
>
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From: "Jonathan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:11:20 GMT

Let me hlep with the average. I'm 19, been hearing good things about Linux
for 1.5 years, and just got around to trying it out this month. To first
answer the subject line: I love Linux! My mom says I should be a linux
salesman (and I'm not generally a pushy person). I'm having the usual
beginner difficulties , but figuring it all out is half the fun! There's so
many neat things about Linux. I've alrady installed on 2 computers .

For what it's worth: I seem to differ fron you guys in that I don't really
care for the command-line stuff (although I'm beginning to get used to it).
I wonder if it's because my first computer (when I was 8) was a '85 or '86
model Mac. So I learned on a GUI based sytem, and y'all learned on the Dos
prompt. Some university would probably be interested in this survey! My firt
PC was a either a 286 or 386, Win 3.0

More for the average: I have a friend, age 26 I think, that's been running
Red Hat for a few years. Then I've got 2 friends, one's a programer, the
other uses his computer many hours each day. They're both in their upper
40's ( yes, it's possibe to have good friends who are much older than you)
and they're really interested in Linux, but just won't make the dive (the
second one's had Linux on a partition for a year, but won't really look into
it). So maybe it takes more effort to convince older folks ? They're not far
from it though. It should help them to take the dive, now that I'm using it
daily.

Happy Linuxing :-)
        JW





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From: "~Stuart~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how? Linux replace Windows.
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:03:56 +1200

Does Linux install and replace windows?
or do I have to somehow delete/uninstall windows?
Do all current programs running under windows - run ok under Linux?
How do I obtain the OS.. is it downloadable from the Net'?

Am I gonna be happy with it ?

:)

( ps.. I'm currently on win '95  )




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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:08:55 GMT

Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, unless they better themselves and their situation. When dealing
> with people you always want a carrot *and* a stick.

Unfortunately, most societies seem to be waving the stick and beating
with the carrot.

-kzm
-- 
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

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From: Sergio Lalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: more questions
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:50:23 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob Calhoun wrote:

> Are there any Linux viruses?     Is Linux compatible with my Internet
> supplier?    If I use Linux, will I still be able to log on?
>
> Bob Calhoun
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Please remove the "spamfighter." to reply.

I'm sure there are viruses for Linux, but not too much.  I guess hackers
don't like making viruses for their own OS.  I've never heard of a virus
for Linux, but it surely can be done.

As long as you don't have something like AOL, which requires it's own
little program, your ISP can work with Linux.  If you call them and ask
for their DNS numbers, a domain name, and a phone number to dial, you
can use linux.


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From: Sergio Lalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how? Linux replace Windows.
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:47:04 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

~Stuart~ wrote:

> Does Linux install and replace windows?
> or do I have to somehow delete/uninstall windows?
> Do all current programs running under windows - run ok under Linux?
> How do I obtain the OS.. is it downloadable from the Net'?
>
> Am I gonna be happy with it ?
>
> :)
>
> ( ps.. I'm currently on win '95  )

Yes, Linux replaces Windows.
If you have enough hard drive space (reasonably around 500-600MB) free,
you can have windows and linux together.  You'd choose which one to
start up when you turn on the computer.
No, Linux doesn't run windows programs, usually.  It's got it's own
collection of programs and stuff.
You can order a CD from CheapBytes.com for about 7 bucks (RedHat Linux
6.0).  It is online for downloading, but unless you have either some
ISDN or cable modem, or about 20 hours free, it'd be hard to download.

You sound new, so you'd have to just buckle down and take time to learn
to use Linux before you'd start enjoying it.  My advice would be to just
stop using Win 95 for a good month till you get the jist of Linux.  If
you're looking for something thats real user friendly, stick with
windows. But if you want to do more, go Linux.


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From: Greg Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: what NIC + Hub do you pros use?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:57:28 GMT

At work we use almost exclusively Intel and 3Com nics.  We have a large
number of 3com managed hubs.  We like their products, they seem to
perform well, and they have VERY good support.
    Greg

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What 100BaseT Network Interface Card and 100BaseT Hub do you pros use?
>
> --
> Thank you for your valuable input. Your useful answers will benifit
> other users as well.
> You are Linux!
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:24:18 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> 3) five year plans

> There is something wrong with this? I have a 5 year plan for my own
> life.

The wrong part is the idea that you can have a plan economy on a large 
scale, i.e. replacing the market forces with detailed control from
above.  What this leads to is that whatever seems important to the
current leader (e.g. building a giant tractor factory in Minsk, having 
a space program, winning olympic medals) gets a lot of resources,
while less visible concerns (making washing machines, bicycles, food)
gets less attention.

Worse, efficiency is no longer a goal, to get resources you must get
the attention of the resource allocator, or government official, so
this is what everybody strives for.  Even without corruption, this
isn't going to work very well.

In a capitalistic system, to get resources you need to convince
investors of your profitability potential or earn money by selling
products or services, and thus it is in a company's interest (among
other things) to be competitive by making as good a product as
possible with as low resource consumption as possible.

-kzm
-- 
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

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From: Philip Shore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DosLinux Questions
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:40:56 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ah well, my comments were first impressions. When I looked at Zip Slack
a few months back it was easy to install but I felt it lacked some
documentation. Maybe that has changed.

I have never installed DosLinux but from just looking at the web page it
looked very organised and thoughtful. It looked easy to install and
there was a great document describing how to do common tasks and install
other major packages like X.

All this is of course my own 10 minute view and without trying DosLinux
for real. I just thought it _looked_ better than Zip Slack with its
immediate friendliness. If I was a first time user I would have gone
there.

These type of distributions are so easy to install that I guess a new
user should try them all!

Phil.


Brett Castleberry wrote:
> 
> And it's small.  It looks useful for old machines with small hard drives.
> I'm using both Zipslack 4.0 and Red Hat 6.0.  Can you tell me why DosLinux
> looks better to you than ZipSlack?  I've been looking at it for some time,
> but Robotti  was making new releases frequently, so I thought I'd wait for
> it to stabilize.
> 
> Brett G. Castleberry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tallahassee, Florida
> Philip Shore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> > It looks very good - better than ZipSlack (a version of Slackware you
> > can just unzip and then run the DOS linux loader to get going).

> > Phil.
> >
> >
> >
> > Brett Castleberry wrote:
> > >
> > > ftp://ftp.tux.org/people/kent-robotti/doslinux/
> > >

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