Linux-Misc Digest #404, Volume #20               Sat, 29 May 99 15:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: first/second/third wo (NEWS)
  Re: "NEWS" going berserque? (Fred Kuipers)
  Re: Offline newsreader for Linux (hudini)
  dosemu & TSR print (NEWS)
  Re: linux for grandfather (John Forkosh)
  Re: LD cannot find libX11 on RH6? (Jeremy)
  Re: Offline newsreader for Linux (Steve)
  Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
  Re: Ensoniq Soundscape Card (Chris Holck)
  Re: Netscape Keeps Stalling (Ron Gibson)
  Help with Masquerading. ("jimlynn")
  Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: * * * Mindcraft offer (NEWS)
  Re: Linux on an LC630/DOS Compatible (Shimpei Yamashita)
  Re: gdbm: What is it!? (Shimpei Yamashita)
  Re: Ensoniq Soundscape Card (Chris Holck)
  Re: Netscape doesn't find (NEWS)
  Re: Commercially speaking (NEWS)
  Re: Problem with Iomega ZIP. (Jeremy Nickolet)
  Re: can't open audio (NEWS)
  Re: The Glass Cathedral (Christopher B. Browne)
  Weird kppp/netscape problem (Steve)
  Re: FTP with Resume featu (NEWS)
  Re: Building new kernel ( (NEWS)

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: first/second/third wo
Date: 29 May 1999 00:32 GMT

On May 28, 1999, Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> pspc wrote:

>> First World:  Industrialized nations (US, Canada, Western Europe).
>> Second World: The Communist bloc (Soviet Union and East European
>> satellites).
>> Third World:  Developing nations (for example, Brazil, India).
>> Fourth World: Undeveloped nations (for example, Bangladesh).

> My interpretation:

>  First World:     Us
>  Second World:    Them
>  Third World:     Where you won't drink the water

First World: Mercury
Second World: Venus
Third World: Earth
and so on...

:-)

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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "NEWS" going berserque?
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:47:14 GMT

Waste of perfectly good bandwidth if you ask me...

FK

Uwe Bonnes wrote:

> Hallo,
>
> what are these serveral hundret ++ Postings from NEWS?
>
> Bye
>
> --
> Uwe Bonnes                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Institut fuer Kernphysik  Schlossgartenstrasse 9  64289 Darmstadt
> --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------


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From: hudini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:43:49 -0500

Gerwin Bijsterbosch wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve wrote:
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Well, is there an offline newsreader for Linux?
> >You know, log on to the ISP, download all new messages in one go and
> >then log off, and then read the messages at my leisure.
> >Any ideas?
> 
> I use slrn in combination with slrnpull, which gets the news (the number
> of new articles you want). It is text based, and needs to be configured
> with a text-file, but it works superbly. Give it a try and you'll never
> want anything else again. I've pasted a sample of my slrnpull.conf below,
> so you'll know what to expect.
> 
> nl.comp.os.linux                250     14
> nl.comp.os.linux.discussie      50      14
> nl.comp.os.linux.installatie    50      14
> nl.comp.os.ms-windows           50      7
> nl.kunst.film                   150     7
> nl.kunst.sf+fantasy             150     10
> alt.destroy.microsoft           50      7
> comp.os.linux                   50      14
> comp.os.linux.advocacy          175     14
> comp.os.linux.misc              50      10
> 
> The first column is the name of the newsgroup, the second is the number of
> messages to retrieve and the third is the amount of days before messages
> expire.
> 
> Gerwin
        
        What I use is leafnode-1.9.2... really easy to setup... then you can
setup a cron job to fetch/post your news articles and texpire to delete
old ones...  The config file is in /etc/leafnode/config once you install
it...
        
        I use netscape-4.08 as my mail/news reader with localhost as my server
since I fetch both mail and news from my isp....

        I have heard about 'suck...'  haven't used it though...

--
Don;t use wincrap... because a computer is a beautiful thing to waste.

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dosemu & TSR print
Date: 27 May 1999 20:47 GMT

I am wanting to use a dos TSR as a print filter.  running DOSEMU .99 on
RedHat 6.0.

DOS TSR works by monitoring a port like LPT2 or COM3 for ascii files
printed to those ports, captures the info and outputs laser
/forms/fonts on another LPT port like LPT1.

Can someone give me help on :
1.  Can't get TSR running on dosemu without crashing.  Cannot find any
info on TSR's and DOSEMU.
2.  How to have linux output piped to the phantom COM3 port of the
DOSEMU package so the TSR would see it, take the print stream, process
and out to LPT1.
3.  How to get rid of time and date prompts in dos when started in
DOSEMU.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Crossposted-To: brown.cs.linux,linux.dev.laptop
Subject: Re: linux for grandfather
Date: 29 May 1999 14:03:19 -0400

Clare Durst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: My husband has used TeX and Emacs and Kermit since the early eighties, 
: first on a Vax at the American Math Society (where the AMS was an early 
: experimenter in using TeX for typesetting) and now later on a 486 at home 
: since he retired. Our son is knowledgeable in linux, but I am not, though 
: I know some rudimentary unix and am well experienced with vm, macs and 
: PCs.
Sounds to me like you guys have plenty of cumulative experience
and competence for what you have in mind, as discussed below.
My overall recommendation is therefore: just do it.  I got a
refurbished Toshiba Tecra 510CDT in August, 1998, for under $1k,
and managed to keep the pre-installed Win95, repartition the 2.1GB
disk, install Slackware 3.5, and get the machine dual-booting
them both ... all in a morning's work.  No serious problem at any
point.  I'd be surprised if you couldn't do the same thing.

: My husband wants to get a laptop and be able to run his favorite 
: programs, using linux, without any real change in the way he does things 
: now.
If he ran a VAX version of Unix, he's in good shape.  Linux is
a real good Unix work/look-alike.  I'm sure he'll be pleased.
If he ran VMS, he'll have the typical learning curve.  He might
want to look at
     Unix for OpenVMS Users, Second Edition
     Philip Bourne, Richard Holstein, and Joseph McMullen
     Digital Press (Butterworth-Heinemann) 1998
     ISBN 1-55558-155-2 (pbk)

: But it's unfair to our son to ask him to do all the setup, research 
: for a laptop, etc.
If he's really knowledgeable, as mentioned above, it shouldn't
be a whole lot of trouble for him, and might save you considerable
time figuring it all out for yourself.  I'd suggest you get as much
help as you feel comfortable asking for.

: So I'm trying to help. I've looked at kharker's site 
: at UTexas, and the list of laptops there,
Best laptop site I know of, by far, though I'm no expert in this area.
Maybe someone else will follow up with other suggestions???

: but it has more technical 
: information than I can comprehend and much of it is about obsolete 
: models of machines.
I found it invaluable.  For example, I subsequently purchased
a PC/PCMCIA LAN Card (a 3C589D-Combo card), but had trouble
setting up the Card Services for Linux.  Ultimately, checking
kharker's info, I discovered you need to modify one of the BIOS
settings on this machine.  I did so, rebooted, and the card was
recognized immediately.  I'd _never_ have guessed that little
problem on my own.  In summary: that technical information
may seem incomprehensible at first, but may later seem invaluable,
once you find that you actually need it.

: My husband is in no sense of the word technically 
: savvy.
There's a certain amount of computerese "savoir faire" necessary
to coax Linux installations neatly into place.  And portables
may be just a bit more finicky about it.  If you guys both feel
intimidated by the thought of it, asking your son becomes just
that much more crucial.

: My question is:
: If you were going to set your grandfather up with a new laptop running 
: linux TODAY, WHAT MACHINE WOULD YOU BUY? What machine is the MOST likely 
: not to have problems with driver conflicts, etc, etc.
I won't even try to recommend.  Obviously, get something as standard
as possible.  Since Toshiba has the largest market share, one of their
standard models is likely to be supported.  My older, refurbished Toshiba
510CDT works just fine.  And its Pentium 133 runs LaTeX in pretty much
the blink of an eye (except for one-time font generation, but even that's
no real inconvenience).

: Assume that he 
: wants to use the machine to do his mathematics, not to challenge himself 
: with driver conflicts, etc. He wants to be a USER.
I use LaTeX for a lot of physics/mathematics, too (but not Mathematica,
etc).  The teTeX distribution supplied with every commercial Linux CD
is real, real nice.  Once you have the machine set up, I'm sure you'll
be happy with it.
     But if you find Linux too much, and if LaTeX is what you want,
I have to say that the MikTeX distribution for Win95/NT is also real
nice.  It doesn't come with quite as comprehensive a macro suite
(e.g., pslatex is missing from the default distribution), though
I imagine you can add whatever you want if you don't mind playing
with the installation and downloading CTAN stuff.
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LD cannot find libX11 on RH6?
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:44:28 -0500

Hi! Just a note, it worked. I apologize. I did not know that ldconfig was
independant of ld. I have never had trouble before, and I have complied stuff
before, but never had to put the lib path in. Not sure why, and yes, I should of
realized this before, I have seen it on other programs I compiled.  I remeber
compiling this program on my RH5.1 system, and had no trouble. Anyway, thanks for
the help! - Jeremy


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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:30:22 +0000


Thanks guys.

I'll give it a try. 

Steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 29 May 1999 17:15:13 GMT

On Sat, 29 May 1999 06:31:03 -0500, Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mitchell Maltenfort wrote:
>> 
>> Syed Mujtaba wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >Hello folks,
>> >    i am currently in the market to buy Linux, and cannot decide whether
>> >to get SuSE 6.1 or Red Hat Linux 6? any input on the matter would be
>> >most appreciated.
>> >thanks
>> 
>> Depends on your level of skill.
>> 
>> In a lot of places, I've seen a consensus that Red Hat is the best 'first'
>> package, for someone who is new to Linux and to Unix.
>
>I suspect those opinions were formed by people who never used SuSE.
>
>It would be interesting to do a survey of people who have experience
>with both RH and SuSE and hear their opinions on...

First things first:  Linux - It's All Good! (TM)

>1) Ease of install and configuration for 1st time user

Red Hat has the easier install... YaST can be intimidating...
but no matter what distribution you choose as a 1st time user, Linux will be
intimidating (you are installing a UNIX-like OS, right?)

>2) Ease of install and configuration for experienced user

experienced 'Linux' user or 'Windows' user or 'computer' user?

Red Hat will still be easier, but SuSE would be OK, too...

both distributions have problems in installs for laptop users, and all Linux
distributions' installation SUCK for laptop users... these problems include:

1) not allowing for proper setup of the Card Services
2) allowance, during Network setups, for pcmcia NICs
3) although Red Hat 6.0 includes LCD monitor settings, COL, SuSE does not  

>3) Ease of post-install administration for 1st time user

Red Hat

>4) Ease of post-install administration for experienced user

Any/either

>5) Choice of included packages

SuSE wins - hands down... 

just my $0.02

>In my case I have used RH (4.2 and 5.2), SuSE (5.3, 6.0 and 6.1) and
>Slackware (3.6).
>
>I give SuSE top marks in all of the above. I found RH and Slackware to
>be close in all the above categories. Slackware is just a little less
>flashy.
>
>Of course RH and SuSE are not the only choices. Caldera has had good
>reviews for its 1st-time user friendliness.
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Robert Paulsen                         http://paulsen.home.texas.net
>If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
>inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Holck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Ensoniq Soundscape Card
Date: 29 May 1999 17:29:38 GMT

Chris Holck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am currently upgrading from RedHat 5.1 to 6.0 manually.
: I have upgraded the kernel to 2.2.5.  I have, of course,
: broken many things.  One of the things I have broken is
: sound support.  I have an Ensoniq Soundscape PnP card.
: Previously, I used OSS to enable sound support.  I am
: trying to load sound support as a kernel but can't.
: Here is my understanding of what I have to do:

: 1. Enable kernel module support and configure the sound 
: support as a module.  I have done both of these things.

: 2. I need to load the microcode to the sound card after
: the kernel boots.  I compile ssinit.c from snd-util-3.5.tar.gz
: with the following macros set:

: #define DSPDEV "/dev/dsp"
: #define CODEFILE "/usr/local/lib/sndkit/sndscape.co3"

: 3. When I run ssinit.exe from /etc/rc.d/rc.local, it 
: should load the correct modules automatically if the
: module dependencies are correctly set.  This is done in 
: /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit by "depmod -a".  I also have to set the
: module options correctly in /etc/conf.modules.  The
: settings are:

: #SOUND modules
: alias char-major-14 sscape
: options sscape io=0x534 irq=11 dma=1 mpu_irq=9 mpu_io=0x330

: 4. This doesn't work and I get the following message in
: /var/log/messages:

: May 29 08:50:06 holckster kernel: ad1848/cs4248 codec driver Copyright (C) by Ha
: nnu Savolainen 1993-1996
: May 29 08:50:06 holckster kernel: Soundscape driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savol
: ainen 1993-1996
: May 29 08:50:06 holckster insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/misc/sscape.o: init_modu
: le: Device or resource busy
: May 29 08:50:06 holckster modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-0
: May 29 08:50:06 holckster modprobe: can't locate module sound-service-0-3

: What am I doing wrong?  What are the correct settings for 
: the sscape module?  How do I determine them? If it helps,
: here are the settings from the previous OSS setup (devices.cfg):

: /SECUREAUDIO OFF
: /IRQEXCLUDE 3 4
: /DMAEXCLUDE 2
: -ENS3081 #Ensoniq Soundscape PnP model 2 (see README.soundscape)
: SSCAPE $LOADBIN /doswin/windows/system/sndscape.co3
: /PNPDEV ENS0000 P330 P# P# I9 I7 I# D1 D3 D#
: SSCAPE OPNP P330 I9 D1 d3
: AD1848 OPNP I7
: PNP

: ------
: Christopher Holck
: University of Pennsylvania
: Dept. of Physics
: 209 South 33rd
: Philadelphia, Pa. 19104

: Phone: (Work) 215-898-4588
:        (Home) 610-640-4073

: Fax: 215-898-8512
: ------------------------------
: "... but I'm disturbed, I'm depressed, I'm inadequate ... I've
: got it all!" - G. Costanza

: "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
: and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein

: "Chicks dig the long ball!" - Greg Maddux

--
Christopher Holck
University of Pennsylvania
Dept. of Physics
209 South 33rd
Philadelphia, Pa. 19104

Phone: (Work) 215-898-4588
       (Home) 610-640-4073

Fax: 215-898-8512
==============================
"... but I'm disturbed, I'm depressed, I'm inadequate ... I've
got it all!" - G. Costanza

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein

"Chicks dig the long ball!" - Greg Maddux

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: Re: Netscape Keeps Stalling
Date: 29 May 1999 15:08:54 GMT

On Sat, 29 May 1999 12:46:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer) wrote:

> : from Linux NG's because we lost FIDO locally and I don't usually don't do
> : Linux USENET. 
> 
> : Any comments on glibc2?
> 
> I don't know. Likewise I'm not using it (though I installed the binaries
> of 2.0.7 in some nice safe place for soffice 5) and I have no problem with
> netscape 4.51 or 4.60 (I went through 4.51 rapidly as I didn't see
> anything stopping me using 4.60 instead, and neither seem worse
> nor better than 4.50). Libc 5.4.38.
> 
> I also use the good ol gnu-malloc preload from libc 5.4.7.
 
I usually let someone else pave the way on new lib's etc.

Well I'd say that confirms my suspicions.  The glibc2 must be the
culprit. When I did a ldd /communicator/netscape all libraries were OK.

Just prior to that I tried using Nscape 4.08 and the file name indicated
glibc2.  Not being aware of the new release, I was unable to get it to
go and I was about to do some downloading and I saw that 4.6 was
available.  Grabbed that instead and have not had a problem other than a
minor email configuration thing that is irrelevant as I use pine and the 
pop
mail thingy usually.

                      email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "jimlynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Help with Masquerading.
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:09:23 -0400

Hi,
    I have a linux box setup to run IP Masquerading for my home network.  I
find that some applications no longer work with this in place.  Does anyone
know how to make certain applications like live updates for software (e.g.
Norton's live-update feature) work correctly?  Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Brian



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Date: 29 May 99 13:59:07 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable

Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to ed johnson;

 ej> NO NO NO.  Suse 6.1 is best

Thats not an opinion shared by this newbie user, Ed.

I had, a week ago, a stock RH5.2 install.  Looking to upgrade, I paid 53
USD for a copy of SuSE 6.1.

It errored out and quit, leaving a non-bootable system 3 times running,
and 3 times I re-installed RH5.2 from the Unleashed cd.

Then I figured maybe there was some leftover from RH it didn't like, so
I copied what I really need off to some ls120 disks, and let it format
the partitions after it had resized them somewhat.  It still errored out
3 more times due to missing files or ?? on the cd (it never asked for
anything other than the first), and only once did it give a system that
would actually give me a bash shell when I logged in.  And nothing
worked, presumably cause bash didn't have a $PATH set.

At that point, this old man was out of patience, took it back and got a
refund from WaldenBooks, no questions asked after I said 'it won't
install'.

I've since followed directions and have the kernel 2.2.9 installed and
running just fine, includeing IDE DMA.


Cheers, Gene
-- 
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    Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5          |A2091,GuruRom,1g Seagate,CDROM,Multiface III
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  or  |Buddha + 4 gig WDC drive, 525 meg tape
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>|Stylus Pro, EnPrint, Picasso-II, 17" vga
         RC5-Moo! 22kkeys/sec isn't much, but it all helps
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer
Date: 26 May 1999 23:02 GMT

On 25 May 1999 22:59:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>...
>According to Dan, even companies doing $2 CD's count as "commercial use"
>of his code, ignoring that the $2 CD's are loss leaders to get sales on
>books, t-shirts, stuffed penguins, etc, and that the $50 distributions
>are selling the support, the pretty box and 'convenience' of buying it
>from a bookstore.... not the software at all.

I agree with Dan on the last point. THere's no way someone isn't making money
off the $50 distributions, unless they are grossly incompetant.


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From: Shimpei Yamashita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on an LC630/DOS Compatible
Date: 29 May 1999 00:42:54 +0100

Cliff Story  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Is there a Linux device driver for the CD-ROM drive on a Macintosh
>LC630/DOS Compatible?

It isn't an ordinary IDE CD-ROM?

-- 
Shimpei Yamashita               <http://www.submm.caltech.edu/%7Eshimpei/>

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From: Shimpei Yamashita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gdbm: What is it!?
Date: 28 May 1999 21:14:42 +0100

Jason Nickerson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>What the heck is this utility used for anyway (am not familiar with
>"dbm").  Have read as much information on the web as I could find to no
>avail...  Not even mentioned in my 2 (greater than) 1000 page Linux
>books...

It is GNU's version of dbm, a simple database library (little more
than a hash table, actually). Most people seem to use Berkeley's
implementation these days over GNU's.

It is not something you need to worry about unless you are a developer
who needs such a data structure, or you have some odd program that
requires gdbm.

-- 
Shimpei Yamashita               <http://www.submm.caltech.edu/%7Eshimpei/>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Holck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Ensoniq Soundscape Card
Date: 29 May 1999 17:30:38 GMT

: trying to load sound support as a kernel but can't.

That should read "trying to load sound support as a
kernel module but can't".

--
Christopher Holck
University of Pennsylvania
Dept. of Physics
209 South 33rd
Philadelphia, Pa. 19104

Phone: (Work) 215-898-4588
       (Home) 610-640-4073

Fax: 215-898-8512
==============================
"... but I'm disturbed, I'm depressed, I'm inadequate ... I've
got it all!" - G. Costanza

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein

"Chicks dig the long ball!" - Greg Maddux

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape doesn't find
Date: 28 May 1999 04:17 GMT

sounds kinda like you are missing a proxy server setup somewhere...do you
remember setting that up before?? Just a thought...

Mike

Lutz Goldbecker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hallo
> Installing Netscape 4.6 worked fine and it started without any errors.
> Every try to connect to any URL address ends with an "Netscape is unable to
> connect to the server "xxx"..."
> The connection (T-Online) is working fine with any other application (eg. kfm,
> staroffice, ping, mail, ..)
> Is there a link I have to set, any file to edit?
> Netscape 4.52 worked before. A try to reinstall it with yast (SuSE 6.1) ended
> with the same error.
> Thanks for every hint, by, Lutz


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking
Date: 28 May 1999 16:02 GMT

Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 [snip]

> OK, if this is the case then how is calling a GPL'd Linux kernel function 
> any different than calling a GPL'd library function?  Being called is what
> they both were designed for.

When was the last time you linked against the Linux kernel?

 [snip]

-- 
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block


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From: Jeremy Nickolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,flashnet.it.hobby.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem with Iomega ZIP.
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:01:06 GMT

Luca Satolli wrote:
> 
> HI, I've installed RedHat 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5) and now I've some trouble
> with my parallel port Zip.
> With my old version of Red Hat (5.2) I've only to do "insmod ppa" from a
> root account and then to mount the correct sda device (4 for Dos disks
> or 1 for Linux disks).
> Now when do "insmod ppa" I get a list of errors:
> 
> /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> parport_claim_Rcca15f23
> /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> parport_register_device_R064ebecf
> /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> parport_unregister_device_R3618c96f
> /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> parport_enumerate_R648d1e26
> /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> parport_release_R4430d136
> 
> I've seen that a new module is loaded by kernel (parport), so I suppose
> that I have not to to "insmod ppa" and just mount but it doesn't work!
> How can I do? Where can I found some documentation on that?
> Thanks a lot and Best regards
> Luca Satolli

Do:
modprobe ppa

Then you can mount it normally.

-- 
Jeremy
http://members.home.com/nickoljt/

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't open audio
Date: 27 May 1999 03:17 GMT

David Erdman wrote:
> 
> I have suse 6.1, with kde 1.1 kernel 2.2.9
> when i try to play a cd or an mp3 with x11amp, it says "can't open audio"
> can someone help me with this.  i have tried to chmod 660 the
> /dev/audio...to no avail.  all my wavs (system sounds work fine).

That's your problem. Sound is not share under Linux. You disable kde sound
and you will be able to use the sound card for something else. I had the
same problem with gnome.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: The Glass Cathedral
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:23:01 GMT

On Sat, 29 May 1999 09:48:03 -0700, Cliff Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>> A: If we continue to grow our user rate at the level we've been doing
>> now, [Raymond writes an arithmetic formula to determine this] we'd get
>> six doubling periods, which means just shy of a billion people, 860
>> million in fact. I'm not expecting it to be quite that high because
>> trends like this tend to show logistic growth rather than exponential,
>> and it's not clear what the threshold is. I'd say somewhere near 750
>> million would be a good conservative estimate.
>
>This is funny!  Going from six doublings (in five years) to about 5.9
>makes the estimate "conservative"?

Obviously some people aren't terribly literate in their dealings with
exponential functions, and probably shouldn't bother making claims.

News reporters tend to be really bad in this regard; too much study of
literature and not enough of math or statistics...

-- 
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Weird kppp/netscape problem
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:28:11 +0000


Hi all.

I have problems using kppp and netscape as user steve, but none at all
as root.

Here is the problem:

as steve I can fire up kppp, get connected, ppp connection is
established, and then netscape is started. No problems so far. But when
I attempt to browse, get mail, etc, it seems that netscape cannot see
the ppp connection (if I can put it that way) because it tells me eg.
'unable to contact nntp.netcom.net.uk', and similar for mail and web
browsing. 
Checking the running processes with 'top', I can see that pppd has
started, I've set the SUID bit on pppd and everything, but still no joy.

Everything is fine as root user, and I am sure that I've set everything
up the same for user steve, but I cant get connected as user steve.
Reading the messages posted to this NG and others, it seems that it is
important not to go browsing, etc., as root, so I would really like to
get this sorted out.

TIA

Steve  (posted as a puzzled root }-(

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP with Resume featu
Date: 27 May 1999 10:02 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try NcFTP (http://www.ncftp.com/)
>
>Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can some one recoment a download or FTP prog for linux that supports
>> resume?
>>
>> Thanks
>>

You can also use Filerunner. Just make a list of your favorite FTP
sites and add it to the Hotlist.

i.b.

>
>


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Building new kernel (
Date: 27 May 1999 06:47 GMT

[posted and e-mailed]

In article <7ige2c$ca$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peer Koch wrote:
> checksum.c:200: redefinition of `csum_partial_copy'
> checksum.c:105: `csum_partial_copy' previously defined here
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:185: Fatal error: Symbol csum_partial_copy already defined

There is no (ix86) checksum.c file in the 2.2 kernel series.  
It must be left over from some old kernel source.  Delete it.

(The 2.2.5 kernel has been out of date for about 1.5 months now.
Try 2.2.7 or 2.2.9.)

-- 
Paul Kimoto  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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