Linux-Misc Digest #443, Volume #20 Tue, 1 Jun 99 07:13:19 EDT
Contents:
traffic-shaping on more than one if? (Birger Toedtmann)
Re: how to figure out whether or not c lib has been installed ("Ron van Middendorp")
Re: telnet in as root? ("Jm")
Re: Netscape Bus problem ("Jin.G")
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (David Kastrup)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Marco Antoniotti)
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? (Villy Kruse)
What tools are there for syslog analysis? (Phil Berry)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (David Kastrup)
Re: lp: driver loaded but no devices found (Georg Schwarz)
Wordperfect console mutilation (Nico Oosthuizen)
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) (Villy Kruse)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Marco Antoniotti)
Re: getty/mgetty question (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: netscape: fonts too small (David Goldstein)
Re: New user, no internet (David Goldstein)
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:44:44 +0200
From: Birger Toedtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.development.system,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: traffic-shaping on more than one if?
Hi,
did anybody try out this nice traffic-shaper under 2.2.x? I know it is
ALPHA, but anyway, i need
to slow down eth traffic on an adaptec-quad-card (4 ports, tulip chips).
NIC works fine, so
i get 4 if's and after loading shaper.o, i wanted to attach shaper0 ->
eth0, shaper1 -> eth1....,
but shapecfg accepts this only once, reporting on followups "device not
ready".
It seems as if shaper.o/shapecfg supports only 1 (!) shaper if, is that
right?
Would be nice if someone would share (not shape=;)) some experiences on
shaper.o and more
than one if, wether it is possible at all etc...
Regards,
Birger
--
Birger T�dtmann. Bielefeld, Germany.
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb3135071790101768542287578439snlbxq' | \dc
00 83 E2 57 EC 60 0B 1C D3 18 AE 2A 40 55 81 22
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From: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: how to figure out whether or not c lib has been installed
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:02:05 +0200
Reply-To: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You could try "versions | grep lib" or "versions | grep cc"
That way you can at least see what has been installed / uninstalled.
For more versions-options and operators version --help | more
Goodluck!
jackie chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi, all
>
> I took over this sgi machine which had been maintained by some one else.
>
> GCC and cc compiler path was set , so I thought those two compilers has
> been installed. However, when I tried to compile perl on this system,
> the system was not able to compile perl.
> I guess gcc lib and cc lib had not been installed.
> My question is how do I know whether or not cc ompiler or gcc compiler
> has been successfully installed and configured including its libraries.
> Is there a certain path those two generates or certain files that would
> tell me their installations are incomplete?
>
> I would appreciate your support.
>
> Jackie
> --
>
>
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From: "Jm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: telnet in as root?
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:40:33 +0200
Thx
Jm
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:50:12 +0800
From: "Jin.G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Bus problem
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Yuval Yohai wrote:
> Hi
>
> i have the same problem as you are with Netscape (bus error) I also did
> what you were suggested
> In the news group but it didn't work.
> Did you solve the probem ?
>
> Thanks,
> Yuval
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
becoz i think you don't have 100dpi fonts on your machine, which by
default is not installed.
get its copy from
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/openlinux/1.3/col/install/RPMS/XFree86-fonts-100dpi-3.3.2-2.i386.rpm
change according to thomas' msg, ../fs/config change, xfs restart, etc.
exit your x window, remove .netscape/lock, and run startx again, it works
for me
--
_J_
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Yuval Yohai wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi
<p>i have the same problem as you are with Netscape (bus error) I also
did
<br>what you were suggested
<br>In the news group but it didn't work.
<br>Did you solve the probem ?
<p>Thanks,
<br>Yuval
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED] or
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becoz i think you don't have 100dpi fonts on your machine, which by default
is not installed.
<p>get its copy from
<br><A
HREF="ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/openlinux/1.3/col/install/RPMS/XFree86-fonts-100dpi-3.3.2-2.i386.rpm">ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/openlinux/1.3/col/install/RPMS/XFree86-fonts-100dpi-3.3.2-2.i386.rpm</A>
<br>change according to thomas' msg, ../fs/config change, xfs restart,
etc.
<p>exit your x window, remove .netscape/lock, and run startx again, it
works for me
<pre>--
_J_</pre>
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 01 Jun 1999 11:54:26 +0200
Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Switzerland is an extremely rich country. When your belly is full
> you are less inclined to violence.
So you would say that the typical drug barons are either paupers or
not inclined to violence?
That's missing the point. Switzerland is an extremely settled
country. There are quite a few peasants which just get along without
accumulating any riches. In many parts of the country, if you were to
shoot somebody, your family would suffer for generations from the
scorn of the village. A lot of anonymity is missing in a lot of the
land, and this overall culture also has effects on its few bigger
towns where these mechanisms are not at work to that degree.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 01 Jun 1999 09:33:05 +0200
Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
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> > >>>>> "Maciej" == Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Maciej> A) I'm not claiming Switzerland is the ideal model, or
> > Maciej> that their model even scales to larger and more culturally
> > Maciej> heterogenous countries. I am claiming that the high
> > Maciej> availability of guns in a society is not even demonstrated
> > Maciej> to have a correlation with a high rate of violent crime by
> > Maciej> the example of Western Europe.
> >
> > You are correct. Cross-cultural comparisons such as the one made
> > between Suisse & the US are generally useless.
>
> Or such as the one between England and the US or between France and
> the US or between Japan and the US, etc.
>
> > The reason the Swiss are able to keep guns in every closet & still
> > have a safe society is that they had the necessary social structure
> > in place to begin with.
>
> Ah, but there you go assuming you know what cultural factors are
> relevant, even though a great many differ. It would be an interesting
> experiment to examine the incidence of violent crime among US
> residents of Swiss descent vs. the general US population and vs. the
> Swiss population, thus isolating the factor of "social structure" from
> other, more vague sociocultural factors.
Switzerland is an extremely rich country. When your belly is full you
are less inclined to violence.
> > The US is a violent country, with its entire history dedicated to
> > the celebration of violence.
>
> Oh please. I am a native European by birth and I would sooner walk the
> streets of Boston at night than the streets of Budapest. The majority
> of Americans are quite decent people. How many times have you been
> outside of the US? If you find the view from Portland that ghastly,
> you'd better not go out and look at other countries without bringing
> your heart medication.
I have to concur. Frank Capra did not grow up in Belgium :) Note
however that many US citizens from, say Kalispell Mt., would not
wander around NYC without the same medications :)
> > Gun control is simply a first step in ending that worship of
> > violence.
>
> Ah, I see you have the hubris of a would-be social engineer. You think
> you can reason out from first principles exactly what the social
> ramifications will be of huge new laws forbidding something you don't
> like. You remind me of the people who think banning pornography of
> certain sorts will eradicate the desire of certain men to commit
> sexual violence.
The idea behind banning certain kind of pornography is that its
production is "violent" (for a proper definition of violent). Some of
Pasolini's movies are "pornographic" and violent in content, but not
in production. The reasoning behind gun control is that their
spreading in dangerous. You can argue all the time you want, but,
saying that more guns curb violence simply does not make sense.
BTW. I lived in the US and can live with people with guns around
me. As long as the economy runs well. Note that I was in the US in 1992.
>
> > As we can see from this discussion, most Americans, no
> > what their class or race, still consider killing as the best method
> > of "crimefighting."
>
> Frankly, if someone were actively trying to kill or seriously hurt me
> I hope I'd have the means and courage to frag their ass, if the police
> were not around to do it for me. And I can tell you in all sincerity
> that I am the most nonviolent, conflict-avoiding person I have ever
> met.
>
> What solution would you suggest in such a situation? Assuming I don't
> have time to call in a crack team of social workers, psychologists and
> other would-be social engineers to counsel the attacker and solve the
> "root causes" of his desire to be violent towards me?
In the US a better redestribution of wealth, Health Care for everybody
(included that 15% of the populace who are excluded from it), and a
more proportional voting system. If that is "un-American", who cares!
Cheers
--
Marco Antoniotti ===========================================
PARADES, Via San Pantaleo 66, I-00186 Rome, ITALY
tel. +39 - 06 68 10 03 17, fax. +39 - 06 68 80 79 26
http://www.parades.rm.cnr.it/~marcoxa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: 1 Jun 1999 09:13:45 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 31 May 1999, Frank v Waveren wrote:
>
>> AFAIK, CHS means the physical cylinders/heads/sectors, while LBA uses virtual
>> cylinders/heads/sectors to partially overcome the 1024 problem.
>CHS used to be the actual cylinder, head and sector. CHS no longer refers
>to physical cylinders etc. but virtual ones which are translated into the
>physical locations by the drive itself.
>
>LBA (Linear block addressing) numbers all the blocks sequentially. The
>drive mades the linear address to physical
>sectors.
>
>David Vrabel
>
Try read the file /usr/src/linux-2.0.35/Documentation/ide.txt. It comes
as part of the kernel sources and gives quite a few details regarding
CHS, LBA, modified CHS and why the 1024 is a magic limit and why an IDE
cannot pretend to have more than 16 heads, and how the BIOS can be made to
double the head count and halve the cylinder count, etc.
Villy
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From: Phil Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: What tools are there for syslog analysis?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:46:28 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I have been looking through my syslog files, using the standard
Unix analysis tools (grep, sed, awk, etc). Whilst these let me
pull out much information quite quickly the though occured to
me are there any general syslog analysis tools out there that
you can run to provide these sorts of statistics? HTML-output
would also be nice, but of course that is secondary :).
Syslog has been around for quite a long time, and its use seems
to be growing with even Apache (1.3) now supporting it for
error logging (see http://www.apache.org). My search on the
net has only retrieved these three tools. I was looking for GPL
tools, rather than commercial stuff.
logsurfer 1.4
I have had trouble compiling it, so not yet sure how useful
this is. (Is there a Linux port?)
URL: ftp://ftp.cert.dfn.de/pub/tools/audit/logsurfer
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SyslogScan
A set of Perl routines to parse the syslog files.Includes an
email summariser. However this means I must write my own
scripts (re-inventing the wheel?).
URL: ???
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SWATCH
Interactive syslog monitor. This is another Perl script. Again
I have yet to successfully install this.
URL: ftp://ftp.stanford.edu/general/security-tools/swatch
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is this all there is? I have been known to miss things :(. However
I would have thought there would be a larger number of tools
than this. (I know that there are, they are just hiding...!)
TIA
Phil Berry
For Linux training: http://193.63.48.62:8080
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 01 Jun 1999 11:48:25 +0200
Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Oh please. I am a native European by birth and I would sooner walk
> the streets of Boston at night than the streets of Budapest.
I have visited Budapest several years ago as a student, and have
frequently walked home at night from various parts of the city and
around, sometimes more than an hour (often along the river) without
noticing anything strange. What have I missed?
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: lp: driver loaded but no devices found
Date: 1 Jun 1999 09:49:11 GMT
Su Wadlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>No, you don't need a special driver, but you do need
>parallel support somewhere. You can have it compiled
>into the kernel, or compiled into a module that either
>is loaded at boot or that you load later. It seems to
>be most common to have it compiled into the kernel.
I did so:
in 2.0.35:
CONFIG_PRINTER=y
In 2.2.9:
CONFIG_PRINTER=y
CONFIG_PARPORT=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
>Type in 'dmesg' at the prompt, piping it through your
>favorite filter (like 'less' or 'more'), and look at
>the boot messages. A line or two past the Linux
>version, you should see information about first the
>serial port(s) and then the parallel port(s). Do
>you see anything about 'lp0' or 'parport0'? If not,
>then you most likely don't have parallel support,
>or at least you aren't loading at boot.
/var/log/dmesg contains:
Linux version 2.2.9 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3)
#17 Sat May 29 19:27:06 CEST 1999
Console: mono EGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 3.51 BogoMIPS
Memory: 9076k/10496k available (680k kernel code, 408k reserved, 304k
data, 28k init)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...
No.
CPU: 386
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using old IRQ 13 error reporting
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... Buggy.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Micro Channel bus detected.
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
lp: driver loaded but no devices found
so looks like the kernal does not autodetect the parallel port. Maybe this
is a bios problem? (it's a PS/2 machine after all). Should I try to
specify something with lilo?
>Did the 2.0.35 kernel that you're using come from the
>MCA Linux Homepage at the dgmicro site? I know for a
>fact that parallel support is *not* included in that
>kernel. If you're using this one, you'll have to apply
>the MCA patch to the standard 2.0.35 source and
>recompile.
exactly what I did.
>I can't say anything about the 2.2.9 kernel as I'm
>not using it . . . . yet. I'm planning to set up a
>system in the near future on which I play with stuff
>like this.
the above output is from a 2.2.9 I compiled specifically for the PS/2
model 70 with 3c523 ethernet card.
--
Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP 2.6ui)
Institut f�r Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universit�t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: Nico Oosthuizen <giantnic*spemthiz*@hotmail.com>
Subject: Wordperfect console mutilation
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:44:31 +0200
After installing WordPerfect 8 for Linux on RH 6.0, I ran into some
interesting problems. My config windows (such as linuxconf, userconf,
etc) have totally gone haywire. The characters used to draw the borders
on these windows have changed from the normal lines to "1m"'s and "2m"'s
and various other combinations of digits and weird characters. The
cursor also obtained some form of AI as it is now basically impossible
to track the movement of the cursor.
How do I fix this?
Nico
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 1 Jun 1999 09:22:52 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) writes:
>
>> ......
>> Oh, BTW, loose the chip on your sholder. It's interfering with your
>> vision. ;-)
>
>got me! I have no idea what 'chip on my shoulder' could be
>m.
American slang expression. Something to do with stop up and listen for
a moment, and accept that other people also might be right.
Don't know if this is correct, and where it came from.
Any other explanation?
Villy
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From: Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 01 Jun 1999 12:18:35 +0200
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Switzerland is an extremely rich country. When your belly is full
> > you are less inclined to violence.
>
> So you would say that the typical drug barons are either paupers or
> not inclined to violence?
No. Of course not. I am not writing a scholarly erudite essay. I am
"sound-biting" on Usenet. The best comment I have about this is an
old Doonesbury cartoon where the old Congresswoman (can't remember the
charming character's name) asks the drug and arms dealer on the corner
of a street: "But why don't you get a respectable job instead of
living this horrible life making 20000 a month tax-exempt?"
> That's missing the point. Switzerland is an extremely settled
> country. There are quite a few peasants which just get along without
> accumulating any riches. In many parts of the country, if you were to
> shoot somebody, your family would suffer for generations from the
> scorn of the village. A lot of anonymity is missing in a lot of the
> land, and this overall culture also has effects on its few bigger
> towns where these mechanisms are not at work to that degree.
You see, we are drifting here. The point is that I am well aware of
"cultural differences". I am saying that they can be used to show one
point or the other if carefully manipulated. However, if you scrape
long enough, there are some positions which are more intelligent (or
at least "more palatable"), like "less guns, less violent crime" (for
suitable definitions of "less" involving "regulation" - there: I said
the R-word), or "prosciutto from Parma is a divine food", no matter
what Muslims, Jews, and vegans think. :)
Cheers
--
Marco Antoniotti ===========================================
PARADES, Via San Pantaleo 66, I-00186 Rome, ITALY
tel. +39 - 06 68 10 03 17, fax. +39 - 06 68 80 79 26
http://www.parades.rm.cnr.it/~marcoxa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: getty/mgetty question
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:27:32 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
>In <SmH43.18021$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Pankaj Arora"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>]>It might be trying to initchat with the modem (which of course is not
>]there).
>]Shouldn't the -r prevent that?
Yes. And it does. However, the manpage clearly states that -r is only
to be used on a direct line (aka null modem cable) and NOT on a modem
connection.
[...]
And then, don't forget that the /etc/mgetty.conf file will override the
settings in /etc/inittab.
>]05/30 02:36:36 yS1 WARNING: DCD line still active, check modem settings
>](AT&Dx)
[...]
Do as suggested. This line indicates that the modem's NVRAM settings
need to be corrected (AT&D*) ; check your modem's manual for the
correct value, and use minicom or cu for writing the AT command
to the modem's NVRAM .
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape: fonts too small
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:27:18 +0200
Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>
> I have RH5.2 and had similar problem with NEC MultiSync 15" 1024x768 res. I
> tweaked the X Window by first upgrading to XFree86-3.3.3.1 then copying MS
> Windows all font (C:\Windows\Fonts) binaries into /usr/ttfonts, also at
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts then run 'xfstt --sync' and edited XF86Config
> FonthPath entires to this:
Jimmy,
You did not have to copy all of those fonts over. You simply need to
set up a symbolic link to the /windows/fonts directory :) By the way,
it helps if you click on the _Use my default fonts, overriding
document_defined fonts_ under /preferences/fonts. If you forget to
click this box, Netscape will try to use the fonts that the web designer
wants you to use. Using Xfstt, I can use the fonts that I prefer :)
David
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New user, no internet
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:34:41 +0200
John Dickinson wrote:
>
> I have just installed suse 6.1 and am impressed with the stability of the
> system. I am completely new to Linux and am improving slowly but I cannot
> get the internet to work.
>
> My dial up works fine and stays connected but when I start Netscape it just
> times out.
>
> The same happens when I dock the notebook at work, the network printer and
> the other computers are not available and neither is the internet.
>
> I think at work the problem maybe win95 as I have to use netbeui for it to
> work TCP/IP alone won't, even with the 95 computers.
>
> If you feel like posting a solution make it basic and step by step, as I
> said I am new at this.
If you can ping an IP address, the problem is in the resolv.conf
file. Using YAST, go to system administration. Move down to the option
_Change Configuration File_ and hit enter. Now, scan through the list
of options until you come to the option _CREATE_RESOLVCONF_. Make sure
that this is set to yes, you can edit this field by hittin the F3 key.
After that, make sure that _SEARCHLIST_ and _NAMESERVER_ are set
correctly for your ISP. This should do the trick. Exit out of this
program normally and SuSE will reinit the config file.
David
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