Linux-Misc Digest #450, Volume #20 Tue, 1 Jun 99 17:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: swapon: operation not permitted by device ("Art S. Kagel")
difference between Linux and Sun i386 keyboard ? (Daniel Van Den Broeck)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Alex Lam)
***** Errors booting Linux RH5.1 (Nick)
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) (Mike Harvey)
Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux SuSe 6.1 (Marc Lambrichs)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (The Ghost In The Machine)
borlandc c libs and linux libs ("ivo")
Re: Offline newsreader for Linux (Steve)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Michael Axford)
Re: problems with glibc2 (Tom Daley)
Re: Can't compile kernal, Need help ("Olli J. Marttila")
Re: NT the best web platform?
Re: Only ROOT can login?? (Roger Atkinson)
Re: Can't compile kernal, Need help ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Re: Can't compile kernal, Need help ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Paid Linux Support (Darren Greer)
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: swapon: operation not permitted by device
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:21:09 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have RH 5.2, upgraded from 5.0 from 4.2. I have configured two swap
areas on separate drives but I partitioned both, using fdisk, as type
Linux Swap. I had no trouble, except forgetting to add the second swap
for 4 months after creating it, duh! I'd say change the partition type
of the swap partition to linux swap or make a filesystem and configure
a swap file on that filesystem.
Art S. Kagel
Scott Lanning wrote:
>
> Hi, can someone with advanced "swap enabling" experience please
> help me?
>
> Here is my analysis so far:
>
> I installed Red Hat 5.1 on my 486 machine, 2.1 GB hard drive.
> During bootup, I saw "swapon: operation not supported by device", so
> I used 'free' and 'cat /proc/meminfo' to see
>
> Swap: 0 0 0
>
> so swap isn't on, apparently. My swap partition was formatted during
> installation as /dev/hda7. Using 'fdisk', I saw that /dev/hda7 is
> in an extended partition, 64 MB in size; however, I saw an example
> with /dev/hda8 in the Red Hat 5.1 installation guide, so I don't
> think being an extended partition is a problem.
> I tried 'swapon /dev/hda7', and swapon emitted "operation not
> permitted by device". I tried 'mkswap /dev/hda7', and mkswap emitted
> something like "partition must be greater than 40 KB". I tried
> 'mkswap /dev/hda7 65992', and mkswap emitted "unable to write
> signature page". I thought maybe I should leave some space for the
> signature page, so I tried 64968 but got the same result (probably
> that was stupid anyway).
>
> I read swapon and mkswap manpages, but they are minimal. I tried to
> find a swapon-HOWTO, but I found (linked from Linux-FAQ 3.12) only
> an unmaintained mini-HOWTO which only describes sharing swap between
> with Windows. Linux-FAQ question 4.6 "My swap area isn't working"
> describes things I've already tried. If someone has a link to
> appropriate documentation, a solution, or even an educated guess,
> could you pass it along? Thanks. --Scott
>
> --
> Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
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From: Daniel Van Den Broeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: difference between Linux and Sun i386 keyboard ?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:09:44 +0200
Hi there,
When porting some applications (originally written for Solaris/Sparc) to
Linux/i386 I encountered a problem with the F1 ~ F12 keys, they don't
seem to work anymore on Linux/i386. Looking at the keytables on Solaris
revealed the following
key 5 all tf(1)
eg. key 5 should always be interpreted as top function key 1. The Linux
keytables revealed
keycode 59 = "\033[[A"
How can I modify the Linux keytables in such a way that pressing the F1
key does exactly the same on both systems without having to change the
source code of the application?
Bye,
denbroed
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:30:36 -0700
I've tried, installed Slackware, RedHat and SuSE.
My final words. Go with Slackware if you're a Linux guru.
SuSE is the easiest to install and config.
RedHat sucks big time. Keep choking on 3 different computers that both
Slackware and SuSE would install properly with the first run.
Go with SuSE.
Alex Lam.
"Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." wrote:
>
> Mitchell Maltenfort wrote:
> >
> > Syed Mujtaba wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >Hello folks,
> > > i am currently in the market to buy Linux, and cannot decide whether
> > >to get SuSE 6.1 or Red Hat Linux 6? any input on the matter would be
> > >most appreciated.
> > >thanks
> >
> > Depends on your level of skill.
> >
> > In a lot of places, I've seen a consensus that Red Hat is the best 'first'
> > package, for someone who is new to Linux and to Unix.
>
> I suspect those opinions were formed by people who never used SuSE.
>
> It would be interesting to do a survey of people who have experience
> with both RH and SuSE and hear their opinions on...
>
> 1) Ease of install and configuration for 1st time user
> 2) Ease of install and configuration for experienced user
> 3) Ease of post-install administration for 1st time user
> 4) Ease of post-install administration for experienced user
> 5) Choice of included packages
>
> In my case I have used RH (4.2 and 5.2), SuSE (5.3, 6.0 and 6.1) and
> Slackware (3.6).
>
> I give SuSE top marks in all of the above. I found RH and Slackware to
> be close in all the above categories. Slackware is just a little less
> flashy.
>
> Of course RH and SuSE are not the only choices. Caldera has had good
> reviews for its 1st-time user friendliness.
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.net
> If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
> inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: ***** Errors booting Linux RH5.1
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:08:00 GMT
***** Errors booting Linux RH5.1
I've had RH5.1 Linux on my system for some time. Now it won't boot up
with several errors. I think the drivers I enabled for OS/2 to read
Linux in R/W mode, might have corrupted something. Even though I
never wrote to the EXT2 partition, OS/2 writes EA files and such. My
linux partition is /dev/hdb1.
Linux starts to boot, but then the errors start. Among them, are:
Attemp to access beyond end of device
Unable to read superblock
checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
hdb: media changed
hdb: packet command error: status 0x51 errors 0x00, 0x50
hdb: code 0x70 key 0x05 asc 0x24, aseq 0x00
FAT bread failed
unable to mount root file system
I tried booting from my linux boot disk and using the rescue disk.
After it mounts successfully, tried to run e2fsck, but it fails with
many of the same errors, plus, it says the partition is write
protected. Actually, I think it failed when I tried to mount the
linux partition on my hard disk.
Can anyone please explain to me how I (a linux newbie) can correct
this problem? I played around with linux when I first got it, and did
some customization, which I probably couldn't duplicate (and didn't
know how to back up). Now I don't have much time to work with it, but
would like to recover what I had. I'd appreciate any help!
Nick
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From: Mike Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:16:09 -0700
Villy Kruse wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) writes:
> >
> >> ......
> >> Oh, BTW, loose the chip on your sholder. It's interfering with your
> >> vision. ;-)
> >
> >got me! I have no idea what 'chip on my shoulder' could be
> >m.
>
> American slang expression. Something to do with stop up and listen for
> a moment, and accept that other people also might be right.
>
> Don't know if this is correct, and where it came from.
Mmm, not quite... but you did accurately capture the intent of the
original poster.
FWIW, a "chip on your shoulder" is a bad attitude, resulting from some
offense; it refers to anger, bitterness, a grudge, etc. Such a person
is usually hostile, uncooperative, belligerent, or "out to prove
something."
I have no idea where the phrase originated.
Mike
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From: Marc Lambrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.database.oracle,comp.os.linux
Subject: Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux SuSe 6.1
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:34:43 +0200
I installed the Oracle database on my Linux SuSe 6.1 system. When
starting svrmgrl I get an error:
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
What's the problem?
Thankx, Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:46:37 GMT
On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:49:30 +0000, Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anthony Ord wrote:
>
>> >It is amazing the number of people that do not realise that Win 95 is
>> >running on top of DOS just like 3.x did. They just put a (not so)
>>
>> Some people deny it point-blank when you clue them in. They
>> come up with all sort of funny explanations...
>
>I think M$ started the myth by refering to Win 95 as an OS. They still
>call Win 98 an OS. If when either is "starting Windows 9x" you press F8
>you can go to the command prompt or step by step startup and see it all
>laid bare. I would say that DOS is the OS (IMHO).
>
>--
>_____________________________________________________________________
>Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> All comments expressed should be assumed to be
> my opinion only and you need to get your own
> opinion before you spend any money.
>From statements made in _Unauthorized Win95_ (and I rather doubt
Win98 is that much different), I would say that
DOS is a glorified program loader (though it does attempt to
insulate the user from the hardware) and that Win95 et al is
the true OS, though it does pass down some requests down to a
DOS running in either real mode (ugh) or a DOS VM; I don't
know which offhand, now. But somebody's creating
real-mode program segment prefixes...
An elegant mess, to be sure. Well, maybe I'm half right;
I'll leave it to all of you to figure out which half... :-)
I guess the best that can be said is that the combo together
comprise an OS, and that the user isn't really supposed to see the
underlying DOS for all of the glitter (and the large amount of
functionality, most of which works reasonably well) of Win32.
But it's still there.
----
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- and Win2000 Personal Edition will still be
DOS ? + Windows, apparently...pooh.
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From: "ivo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: borlandc c libs and linux libs
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:32:50 +0100
i dont know the libs in linux that are the same in linux .
like: graphics.h , conio.h dos.h
mailme : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:46:16 +0000
Thanks for all the replies, guys.
Now I just need to know where to get xagent and gnus :)
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From: Michael Axford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:50:23 +0100
By changing a line in the msdos.sys file you can even make the computer
boot to dos, I have even discovered if windows 95 is started from the
command line when you shutdown all that happens is you are taken back to
dos but in a strange screen mode,
I now have my 95 partition booting to a DOS prompt with a small batch
script called win.bat which just does
@echo off
win.com
mode co80
so when i exit windows i'm back to dos, This could even lead to a couple
of batch files
win95.bat - same as above
win311.bat
@echo off
path c:\win311
win.com
Back to the good old win311 days, Yipee dosen't crash, Well not quite so
quickly,
Nb I don't know if this works with OSR2 version
I use the upgrade version.
--
Mike Axford
=======================================
undergraduate, Computer Engineering
University Of Southampton, England
God Loves You !!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Daley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: problems with glibc2
Date: 1 Jun 1999 15:56:31 GMT
In article <01bea3a7$b1806440$0201a8c0@joaqu-n>,
"jota" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A week ago I started upgrading my linux, which is slakware with kernel
[ snip ]
> (with the crypt and linuxthreads addons). When it got to "make crypt
> others" it aborted saying that the included file "<bits/libc-lock.h>" (the
I had to edit crypt/sysdeps/unix/crypt_util.c
Change #include <bits/libc-lock.h> to #include <libc-lock.h>
Then it all built OK.
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From: "Olli J. Marttila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't compile kernal, Need help
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:09:45 +0300
>1. Are you sure you have "make" on your system?
>2. Is make's directory in root's path?
An innocent and naive question to be added to the answer above:
Have you unpacked kernel...rpm and kernel-headers....rpm? Go then to
/usr/src/linux and try once more. I would wonder if it did not help.
No need to thank ...
Olli J. Marttila,
another newbi although in old age
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:44:04 -0700
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:59:26 -0700, Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Miguel Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:IsT43.1183$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> *NT* afaik is *not* free.
>> >
>> > Either is a professional UNIX.
>>
>> I take it your definition of a professional Unix is "one that is not
>> available for free."
>>
>> miguel
>Essentially, hobbyists don't have the discipline to do it properly. For
>examples look at Disk Druid, and RH 6.0.
Except you've got it backwards as those are both attempts
by something other than just 'hobbyists' to implement
something.
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From: Roger Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only ROOT can login??
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:46:38 -0700
brian moore wrote:
>
> On Sat, 29 May 1999 22:55:12 GMT,
> Edmond Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am using Redhat 5.1. I have set up a few accounts but seldom use them. I
> > always sign on as root. But when I try to login with other account, my
> > Linux system always refuses with incorrect login. Even if I change the
> > password or I don't specify password for other accounts
> >
> > Is there any clue??
>
> rm /etc/nologin
>
If I remember right in RH5.1 you might also have to create the Home
directory of the user manually. This depends on how you added the user
to have access. How did you create the user accounts ?
HTH, Roger Atkinson Unix Sys Admin
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't compile kernal, Need help
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:12:32 -0400
>1. Are you sure you have "make" on your system?
I did a file search and didn't find it. If it's there I don't know where.
If it's not, how do I get it on there?
>2. Is make's directory in root's path?
>
Not sure, don't think so..
Thanks
>
>
>Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote:
>>
>> I've read the books and how to's and come up with the same error message
>> when I issue the 'make config' command. It say's that the make command
>> can't be found. I tried this on two systems with RedHat 5.2 and the same
>> thing happens. 'make zImage, zdisk don't work either. I'm logged in as
>> "root". What am i doing wrong? Thanks
>>
>> Ed
>
>--
>Here I. Am
>
>"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
>deserve neither liberty nor safety."
>-- Benjamin Franklin
>
>"Humans seem to be the only animals that need to be trained in natural
>behavior."
>--Masaaki Hatsumi
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't compile kernal, Need help
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:17:56 -0400
This sounds dumb, but, I don't have an /usr/src/linux directory as the book
states, I just have /usr/src/redhat and there is nothing in there of any use
to this problem. I will check the rpms again and see if I forgot something.
>An innocent and naive question to be added to the answer above:
>Have you unpacked kernel...rpm and kernel-headers....rpm? Go then to
>/usr/src/linux and try once more. I would wonder if it did not help.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Greer)
Subject: Paid Linux Support
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:51:24 GMT
A friend of mine works for a company that uses Debian Linux as there
servers. I heard a while back that HP was going to be offering a paid
support program for Linux. Two question follow:
-Does that only include Linux support in HP hardware?
-Does that require a specific distribution?
If anyone knows of any other company that, for a monthly fee, would
provide linux techinical support, please let me know, so I can let my
friend know.
Thanks,
Darren
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