Linux-Misc Digest #492, Volume #20 Fri, 4 Jun 99 13:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Potential Linux person questions... (Sparky)
Re: MicrogarfX Designer 4.1 (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: Is Gnome slow? (James Youngman)
Re: vmware for linux (Uwe Bonnes)
Re: Need reasons for Mandrake over RH (Steve Browne)
Radio clock using realplay -- why doesn't it work? (Ding-Jung Han)
Re: MicrogarfX Designer 4.1 (Martin Schreck)
Re: Printing (Grant Taylor)
Re: whee is FETCH? ("RSO")
Re: Radio clock using realplay -- why doesn't it work? ("Shaun Beech")
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Michael Axford)
Re: RH6.0 GNU c++ compiler question ("D. Vrabel")
Re: enable modem for single session ("D. Vrabel")
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Gene Wilburn)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: RPM 3.0 question (Johan Kullstam)
can 2 linux machines talk to a dual port scsi raid system ?? (dan)
Re: Potential Linux person questions... (Mike Kerr)
Lexmark 5700 ("Frank Kraft")
Re: Need reasons for Mandrake over RH (Dan Star)
What distribution? ("Baldur Gislason")
What is "Mount Point?" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: STB 4mb agp board (NEWS)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.")
Re: unseen files (Grant Edwards)
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From: Sparky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Potential Linux person questions...
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:47:29 GMT
I have tried Linux in the past, but got too bogged down in configuration
problems to really bother with it. In the end, its space on my HD was
reclaimed for Windows (the shame of it!).
I would appreciate it if anyone could give me some advice regarding the
following queries.
a) Can you actually access MS-DOS (FAT16) EXTENDED partitions with
Linux? I have only ever been able to get at the files on PRIMARY
partitions.
b) How easy is it to write 'Windows' (I suppose this is X11 for Linux)
type software for Linux? I am an experienced programmer with lots of
Windows API/C/C++ experience. Do you just need a list of Linux-X11-API
calls or is it something a bit more advanced/difficult.
c) Is there a Linux distribution that auto-detects and installs sound
drivers for one or both of the AWE32/EWS64XL(dream chip) cards?
d) What is the best Windows environment for Linux? I am a bit confused,
because there is KDE/GNOME/X-Windows/...
e) In relation to (d), will software written for one 'windows'
environment work fine on another?
Thanks,
Mark.
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MicrogarfX Designer 4.1
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:44:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello, does anybody knbow a program which can read MicrografX
> Designer files ?
Please forgive me to answer in general, but you did not
mention with what program you want to read the files under Linux...
Go in Designer to /Files menu, select /Export, and try out
some graphics format (like .pcx and others...).
Some of these formats may be read by a Linux program...
--
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Gnome slow?
Date: 01 Jun 1999 21:06:24 +0100
Cliff Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've just installed Red Hat 6.0 (on top on 5.2 -- the "upgrade" option
> didn't work, it killed the mouse) which comes with a new X window
> manager (seems to be more than a window manager, though) called
> "Gnome". This looks real good but it runs like MacPaint on a 128K Mac,
> maybe a little slower. My brother suggests increasing my RAM from the
> present 16 MB to 64 MB, and I'm sure that would help, but even with 16
> MB I'd expect a menu response in less than two or three seconds, which
> is what Gnome gives me.
>
> Any comments?
16Mb is just about to run X in if you use something like fvwm as your
window manager and avoid stuff like Netscape. GNOME will require
more. In fact, a lot of things will require more. Sorry.
--
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+actually
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From: Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vmware for linux
Date: 4 Jun 1999 12:50:44 GMT
Dan Schaertel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" wrote:
:>
:> This vmware is really brilliant. If you want to
:> simulate several machines to run, network inside
:> one standalone computer, this is your answer.
:> I'ts quite good to prototype a physical network with
:> vmware before implementing the real stuff.
:> I would highly recommend it to people who
:> doesn't have a network and relying only on a single
:> machine but would like to learn the
:> essentials about networking.
:> I have tried Samba and it works fine. Now I'm in
:> the process of getting the IP Masquerading in action
:> so I can't tell you much until success is achieved.
:>
: I have a question. I can't get a sound driver for my card (Maestro) in
: Linux and I have a Winmodem. So in Linux I have no sound and no
: online. If I run vmware and run Windows95 as a virtual machine should
: the sound and modem work?
No.
VMWARE relies on the appropriate Linux Devices.
No direct port access, no IRQ passing...
Bye
--
Uwe Bonnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
========= Tel. 06151 162516 ======== Fax. 06151 164321 ==========
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Need reasons for Mandrake over RH
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:48:37 GMT
On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:04:44 -0500, "Sergio P. Korlowsky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But http://www.lsl.com has Linux-Mandrake 6.0 silk screened CDs for only .95
>cents..!
>and when you place an order you can add redhat 6.0 for FREE! that's a good
>deal!
>check it out!
>
>I am NOT affiliated with "lsl" thou... just want you guys to know about it!
You'd better check their "shipping charge" ($8+) before you call it a
good deal. When you add the shipping charge, CheapBytes.com has a
better deal.
And I am not affiliated with CheapBytes.
Steve
Stephen B. Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ding-Jung Han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Radio clock using realplay -- why doesn't it work?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:21:35 -0400
Hi all
I've tried to be creative -- using realplay to wake me up every morning.
Here is what I tried (but failed):
1. write a small script called radio:
#!/bin/sh
realplay http://www.realaudio.com/products/ra3.0/kingfmMI.ram&
2. Issue an at command:
at -f /home/ben/bin/radio 7:30am
But realplay didn't show up and play nice music for me. I can tell the
script was actually executed, but no error message, no nothing. If I
dropped the trailing '&' out then an error message was emailed to me
saying that realplay caused a segmentation fault (!) and I did run the
script by hand it's working. Any ideas? TIA!
Ben
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From: Martin Schreck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MicrogarfX Designer 4.1
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:04:14 +0900
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need to read the files in Linux so that I can for instance continue
working on them with Appluic Office, Gimp or Star Office.
Maybe now somebody can help me?
Thanks for the hint
Cheers, Martin
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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing
Date: 03 Jun 1999 18:39:38 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Merar) writes:
> I need a copy of JetAdmin for Red Hat 5.2.......where can I get a
> copy?
I don't think JetAdmin is available for Linux quite yet, but
WebJetAdmin is. You can find that on the HP web site somewhere.
--
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
Cellphone information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/cell/
Libretto information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/
Linux Printing HOWTO: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/
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From: "RSO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: whee is FETCH?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:51:18 +0200
Stuart R. Fuller schrieb in Nachricht <5um6j7.n39.ln@localhost>...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>: hello
>:
>: i setup leafnode as per instructionsbut and after a reboot i try
>: typing fetch (after logging on) but nothing happens?
>:
<snip>
Make sure the config-file is owned and readable by user "news", so fetch can
read it.
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From: "Shaun Beech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Radio clock using realplay -- why doesn't it work?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:22:34 +0200
Why not try and get it run through cron ?
Ding-Jung Han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all
>
> I've tried to be creative -- using realplay to wake me up every morning.
> Here is what I tried (but failed):
>
> 1. write a small script called radio:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> realplay http://www.realaudio.com/products/ra3.0/kingfmMI.ram&
>
> 2. Issue an at command:
>
> at -f /home/ben/bin/radio 7:30am
>
> But realplay didn't show up and play nice music for me. I can tell the
> script was actually executed, but no error message, no nothing. If I
> dropped the trailing '&' out then an error message was emailed to me
> saying that realplay caused a segmentation fault (!) and I did run the
> script by hand it's working. Any ideas? TIA!
>
>
> Ben
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From: Michael Axford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:31:11 +0100
And of course Dos 7 is basically Dos 1 with a few added bugs,
No Wonder Win95 Keeps on craching and tends to die if I've got more than
a couple of devices in the box
--
Mike Axford
=======================================
undergraduate, Computer Engineering
University Of Southampton, England
God Loves You !!
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.0 GNU c++ compiler question
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:37:32 +0100
On 3 Jun 1999, Willis Sarka III wrote:
> I am taking an introductory C++ course in college for summer semester.
> The professor mentioned that there is a new standard for C++ (ANSI
> standard I believe) that was released sometime in 1998. He alluded to the fact
> that the new standard has a "<string>" header file, and that the GNU C++ compiler
> might be based on the older standard, not the current one. Is there any way of
>checking
> the GNU C++ compiler to make sure it meets this standard?
Get egcs (http://egcs.cygnus.com/) for the most up to date version. It
has the complete STL, the string class from <string>, templated complex
etc. I version (not the most recent) is missing the stringstream class (it
has strstream instead). The standard library doesn't use namespaces at
the moment but the code is there.
As for checking the version run
g++ --version
if it says gcc 2.90.xx or egcs 1.0.xx or greater then its the one you
want. If it's less don't waste your time with it and upgrade
(particularly if it is 2.7.xx).
David Vrabel
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: enable modem for single session
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:37:02 +0100
On 4 Jun 1999, Martin Willingham wrote:
> Does anyone know how to enable a modem for a single session?
> We want techs to be able to dial in to our system, but don't want to leave
> the modem enabled all of the time, and we don't want to rely on someone
> turning off the (external) modem after the session is over.
> We'd like to be able to run a script that activates the modem for one
> session, then disable it until the script is run again.
You could do this with cron (if you want it a regular intervals) or at (if
you only want it once). See the cron and at man pages for more details.
David Vrabel
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 3 Jun 1999 16:44:13 PST
In article <_0E53.40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>setup your data so that each record is pretty much an atomic entity.
It is often not possible to do this, that being the entire
point, of course.
>: How about cursor stability for the readers? Are the
>: readers sorting the data; what about an insert happening in the middle of
>: the sort?
>don't know how to answer these questions. I'm far from an sql expert
>but so far, in the netmgt apps I write and run, I've never run into
>these issues before.
Sort of like writing multi-threaded programs without proper synchronization.
"Gee, it always worked on the ground, can't imagine why the plane
crashed once we flew it!"
>: In a lightly loaded server your probability of encountering these problems
>: is low but not zero. Stress the server with lots of activity and these
>: problems will show themselves. Transactions and isolation levels address
>: these issues.
>you have a very valid set of points. perhaps I should consider the
>transaction thing a bit more closely. sometime before my servers get
>to the saturation point, I guess ;-)
It depends entirely on what you're doing. Slashdot runs on
MySQL, for instance. A lot of web sites using dbs can use a
very simple data model, and get away without transactions.
>still, it depends on the absolute accuracy of the info. if you're
^ need for? I assume you mean?
>using a freeware db to manage my money, I would be concerned.
Hmmm...sybase is freeware and nothing about it should cause
you worry.
And I have confidence that open-source Postgres will be there,
too, like in a year or so. They're making real progress.
(Postgres does transactions)
>for
>some snmp polled data (that is constantly being updated by new values
>by a poller), then even one erroneous entry won't take the network
>down. it probably won't even be noticed. and will be corrected by
>the next polled instance.
As long as you know your application, you're safe.
--
- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net
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From: Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:43:39 GMT
Mark Grzywacz wrote:
> That's hardly a fair comparison - The $1.99 price is only for one CD - no
> manual, extra software amd technical support. The SuSE price includes all
> that above (comes with 5CD's - Star Office WP8 etc). There are cheap one
> CD SuSE packages available - hell the .iso image is free to d/l - I think
> you should compare like with like.
For the record, the Cheapbytes $1.99 Red Hat 6.0 comes with WordPerfect
8 (something the 'official' box doesn't :-)
Gene
===================================================================
Gene Wilburn, Northern Journey Online, http://www.interlog.com/~njo
===================================================================
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 04 Jun 1999 09:49:45 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
[sorry to reply to citation two levels deep. my newsserver is a
little overanxious to expire things.]
> In <49043.12042$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "AlexAndre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
> > Hi I tried redhat 5.1- 6.0, caldera 2.2 and SuSE 6.1
> >I go for SuSE 6.1 GREAT!!!!!!!!!
> >What's wrong with RedHAT 6.1 I bought it from cheapbytes.com for $1.99
must be nice to have a time machine.
> >I will never buy redhat products for sure!!!
why does something really bad happen in the future?
--
johan kullstam
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM 3.0 question
Date: 04 Jun 1999 09:47:28 -0400
Kok Chee Kean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all,
> I've just installed rpm-3.0 on my machine. I changed the optflags in
> rpmrc to optimize for pentium (-O2 -mpentium) when building src.rpm
> files.
which rpmrc did you change as in what directory did it live in. there
are a host of rpmrc and .rpmrc locations.
> However, --showrc does not register this change but merely shows
> optflags = -O2
--
johan kullstam
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From: dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can 2 linux machines talk to a dual port scsi raid system ??
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:26:40 -0500
i have a dual port scsi raid system with 2 linux systems connected to it
both run redhat 5.2
there is an ext2 filesystem on the raid box (~26Gbytes)
the problem i have is that if linux box A writes a file to the raid
filesystem,
linux box B doesn't see the file
if i reboot linux box B, it sees the file,
if i write the file with linux box A BEFORE the mounting the raid system
on linux box B for the FIRST time it sees the file
i tried unmounting and then mounting the raid system on linux box B,
but it still doesn't see the file
the first mount of the raid system takes much longer than later mounts,
i assume that linux is only "looking" at the raid system the first time
it
mounts it (and buffers the directory and file info into memory ?)
is there a way to get linux to "relook" at the disk ?
rebooting the system takes too long, i am looking for
a faster way of seeing the files
i hope this makes sense
thanks for any help in advance,
dan
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From: Mike Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Potential Linux person questions...
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:59:29 -0400
I hear Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 is pretty easy to install and set up. You might
have better luck with sound cards with this distribution. I believe it can
auto-detect most of your hardware...
KDE is supposed to be the best GUI around right now overall. GNOME's still
in the development stages so it might not be best to mess around with when
first using Linux. I'm using plain old x-windows with fvwm95 at the moment.
It's decent, but doens't have a lot of bells and whistles or anything...
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From: "Frank Kraft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lexmark 5700
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:21:19 +0200
Hi,
has anyone an idea which driver (or compatible) do I need for
lexmark 5700.
regards Frank Kraft
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From: Dan Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Need reasons for Mandrake over RH
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:56:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rushuru wrote:
<snip>
> But if they prefer Gnome, they should stick to RH6 (or Debian Potatoe)
Has Potatoe been officially released? The WEB site seemed to indicate
not.
--Dan
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From: "Baldur Gislason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: What distribution?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:25:16 +0100
Help!
I have a ccomputer I wnat to put linux on, this is the hardware:
Some motherboard with a soldered-in 486sx33 processor oveclocked to 50mhz (I
did heatsink it, don't worry), ISA bus
8megs of ram (8x1meg 30pin simms)
Some ISA Hyundai interface controller (IDE, FDC, serial, parallel)
Trident 8900c3.0 ISA video card with 512k video ram
102meg hd (terribly small)
Some floppy drive
Not maths coprocessor (it's an SX, remember)
I have a RealTek8019 lan card (NE2000 compatiple) that I will be installing.
I will be adding a CD-ROM drive probably.
I need to know what distribution would be best on such a low hd space, I
don't need X. This machine will be used as a server on my LAN, it will be a
router (or proxy) and www server. I will be upgrading it this summer to a
p100 with 128megs of ram and 4,3gig hd so this will be a temporary
installation. The whole small hard drive will be for linux because I don't
need dos, I also need some good partitioning program (to make a Linux native
partition and a swap partition, I only have fips now and that prog only
splits a dos partition and makes ext2 (linux native) but doesn't delete the
dos partition so I get stuck with a useless 7megs dos partition.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What is "Mount Point?"
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 21:19:46 GMT
I'm trying to install Linux 5.0 and the autoinstall "Druid" keeps
asking for valid "Mount Point"
Thanks
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STB 4mb agp board
Date: 27 May 1999 19:32 GMT
If its the Velocity 128 it uses the Riva chipset. Choose that and all should
be fine (mine worked)
moonie ;)
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From: "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:29:12 -0500
"John G. Sandell" wrote:
>
> I like SuSe but with both 5.2 and 6.1, can't get printing to work
> through setting it up with Yast. ANy suggestions?
>
As root, change to the following directory:
home:/var/lib/apsfilter
and run the ./SETUP command (all caps).
____________________________________________________________________
Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.net
If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: unseen files
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:13:46 GMT
In article <7i4psu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J�rgen Exner wrote:
>> Make sure that your current directory is in your $PATH environment
>> variable. The PATH variable should include a segment with just
>> a dot in it.
>
>Please see Dajanews or the UNIX FAQ why the CWD should *not* be in your
>path.
Or, if you insist on such risky behavior, at least minimize it by
making sure it is last in your PATH. Personally, I don't put the
current directory in my path.
--
Grant Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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