Linux-Misc Digest #498, Volume #20                Fri, 4 Jun 99 22:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Christopher Browne)
  Q: Linux equivalent technologies to Win32? ("George Craig")
  Re: chroot ("J�rgen Exner")
  Standard Hardware spec per users ("DonS, Choi")
  Re: Does this OS exist? (William Burrow)
  Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory! (William Burrow)
  Restrict Access via NIC address? (Bob Dusek)
  Re: Copy entire hard drive? ("J�rgen Exner")
  procmail and lockfiles (peter)
  Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
  Re: ANNOUNCE: JASSPA distribution of MicroEmacs '99 (Christopher Browne)
  Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
  Re: Is This Illegal? (brian moore)
  Re: Test your knowledge of Linux at new site! (William Burrow)
  Re: xenix drives (William Burrow)
  Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output... (Gutrot)
  Re: "su" always returns 0 (Jim Richardson)
  Re: SUSE 6.1 and (unfortunately!) MS Windows 9X Install Question (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Real Audio does not work.  Why? (Paul John)
  Re: CRAZY IDEA: Linux Box as TCP/IP Network Audio/Visual Server? (mike dombrowski)
  Re: Mice recommendations (Marc Mutz)
  Re: Looking for small business accounting pkg. (David M. Cook)
  Re: enable modem for single session (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Link Question (Marc Mutz)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:30:55 GMT

On 4 Jun 1999 12:59:19 PST, Don Baccus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>>absolutely.  actually, as it turns out, while all Free Software
>>(http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) is Open Source
>>(www.opensource.org)
>
>The simple english word "free" has a meaning very different
>than the formalized "Free Software" as defined by RMS and
>his crony, and I suspect the OED will honor that distinction
>for many decades to come.

I wasn't aware that "free" was so devoid of meaning; perhaps your
dictionary is deficient.  I count its use as verb, adverb, and
adjective, with on the order of 20 distinct definitions.

The "free of cost" sense that is true for some ways that one might use
Sybase's Linux release only expresses one meaning out of those 20-odd.

Are you sure the meaning is as simple as you are claiming?  Or should
you perhaps consult the OED?

-- 
"Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer."
-- Edsger W.Dijkstra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: "George Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Linux equivalent technologies to Win32?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:04:46 -0500

As an off and on user of Linux and a developer of Microsoft-based software,
I would like to plunge more time into development on Linux; yet, I lack the
knowledge of what is available today in terms of technologies and
application architectures.

Therefore, I have some questions regarding development on Linux --
particularly, what are the technologies currently used (or in place) that
are likened to those on the Win32 platform?

For example, what is the standard Linux SDK/technology for building
distributed applications? Is it CORBA?

Listed below are additional technologies that I have worked with and would
like to have compared to the equivalent *unix* incantation.

1. COM / ActiveX    (is it CORBA?)
2. DCOM   (is it RPC, RMI in Java?)
3. Transaction Monitoring of objects   (Enterprise JavaBeans - ETS?)
4. Win32 API    (Any Window Manager flavor API and Libs? i.e., Gnome)

Thanks for any and all of your help,
George Craig

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[if you want to respond, please remove NOSPAM]




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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chroot
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:33:31 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Benoit Lefebvre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.videotron.net...
> Hi,
> Does anyone know why I obtain this error everytimes I want to
> chroot something:
> ---
> root [/root]: chroot /system2 /bin/bash
> chroot: cannot execute /bin/bash: No such file or directory
> ---
>
> I want to do a kind of second system on my box.. Only the root will be
> able to be in the real /, the users will be on the "virtual" linux, so, if
> I get hacked, I'll only have to restore a backup of /system2 instead of /

Well, does /system2/bin/bash exist?
Remember, after the chroot the root folder "/" will be what ordinarily you
would refer to as /system2/

jue
--
J�rgen Exner




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From: "DonS, Choi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Standard Hardware spec per users
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:39:50 +0900

Hi Gurus

I works for Internet service company.
I'm willing to buy UNIX or LINUX server(or workstation)
Our company will service  internet chatting and mail service. So I should
decide  hardware spec.

Are there any standard Hardware specs per users?
Where do I get information about this?
Users may be over 100,000

Any idea will be very appreciated.

Thanks advance



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.minix,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Does this OS exist?
Date: 5 Jun 1999 00:29:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:47:26 +0100,
Pedro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But we're talking about a single user/single tasking OS, which means there
>> *IS* no pre-emptive multitasking to manage these things.
>
>The original poster wanted to ensure that in event of an error "the calling
>program can get control back".  I was just saying that you can't guarantee
>this without some sort of pre-emptive multitasking.
>
>If the first line of the child program reads "while(1);" your screwed.

If you wished to set a timer, the Real Time Clock has an interrupt
available for this task.  Of course, the halting problem exists for
multitasking systems as well.

-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory!
Date: 5 Jun 1999 00:26:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:49:50 -0500,
Joe Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't get this.. I'm running RedHat 6.0 with a minimum of services.. and
>after a reboot, my free memory is only about 24MB(out of 64). A few hours
>later, I have about 1.7MB free, and my swap starts to become active.. I do
>not have many users, nor memory-eating apps.. it all seems to go into
>"cached" memory.. Now cache is nice, but I don't want all my available
>memory allocated to it! And I want to avoid swap usage... can anyone
>help??

This must be a FAQ.  Of course you want all your unused memory
allocated to cache, what else is it good for?  Once there is a need for
it, the cache is freed and the memory put to good use.

As for using swap, again, that is very cheap memory, putting it to good
use is highly desirable.  Unused programs and unused data in active
programs gets pushed out to make more high speed RAM available for other
processes.  This has nothing to do with the problem of memory starvation
that most people associate swap usage.  That problem is detected by a
rapid, continuous machine gun like sound from the drives.

-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: Bob Dusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Restrict Access via NIC address?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:39:14 -0500

Hello,

We're playing around with a few NFS ideas, here, and one thing that
we're stumped on is: is there any way to restrict access (via
hosts.allow or some other means) to services based upon hardwared
address, rather than IP?

Thanks,

Bob
-- 

Saint Joseph's College --  [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.saintjoe.edu
=======================================================================
Always the dullness of the fool is the whetstone of the wits.
                -- William Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copy entire hard drive?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:35:34 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Teri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there a way to copy (partitions, links and all) an entire
> hard drive to another hard drive, such that you can then take
> the second drive and place it in a machine with identical
> hardware and have it come up without error?  Any suggestions would
> be appreciated... thanks!

Copying the whole hard drive: "dd". Of course the source and target drives
must be identical.
Copying all the files individually: "cp -a", some people recommend a pipe or
"tar". More details can be found in the famous harddrive Upgrade HOWTO.

jue
--
J�rgen Exner




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter)
Subject: procmail and lockfiles
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:40:31 GMT


I wrote a complex .procmailrc that filters data out of a mail, writes it 
to temporary files and call a script at the end that will process this 
files. (see example below)

this one works fine as long as the incoming mails are not to close. As 
soon as a few mails arrives at almost the same time, same strange things 
happen. I think, that each incoming mail starts a instance of procmail 
and so more procmails are running at the same time, writing to the same 
files and so chaos comes its way.

Could lockfiles avoid this ?
What exactely are lockfiles doing ?
How to implement them ? (:0 c :/tmp/lock.1  will bring an error in the 
log)


now an example from my procmailrc:

===============
:0
* ^xyz
{

  :0 c
  $MAILDIR/mobil.in.$WEEKFOLDER

# collect subject and sender

  :0 cw
  | formail -zx "Subject: " -zx "From: " >/tmp/mobil.tmp

# and the sender again to safe work in the final script

  :0 cw
  | formail -zx "From: " >/tmp/mobil.from

# if subject starts with # add a dot to the sender (whyever ;)

  :0 cw
  * ^Subject: *#
  | echo ".">>/tmp/mobil.from

# collect the body and filter the Reply-To-field that formail
# lets through.

  :0 cw
  | formail -zI "" | grep -iv "Reply-To">>/tmp/mobil.tmp

# and now call mobil that will process all the files and create a lot
# of new mails and calls sendmail to send them all.

  :0 
  | $WORKDIR/mobil $WORKDIR 
}
==========

thanks a lot for your help


peter


pilsl@goldfisch.
ANTISPAM
atat.at

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 4 Jun 1999 17:34:23 PST

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 3 Jun 1999 09:30:32 PST, Don Baccus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>No, in this culture free means ``comes source code that you can redistribute
>and modify, or both''.

Sybase for Linux is (currently) free.  Live with it.  

It's not Open Source and no one is forcing you to use it
(personally, I use Postgres for my personal needs precisely
because it is open source) but it is free.  As defined in
english.
-- 

- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: JASSPA distribution of MicroEmacs '99
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:30:55 GMT

On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 18:19:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
>           JASSPA distribution of MicroEmacs '99
>                     New Beta available

Burning question: Under what license is it distributed?

Are they free software?  Or are they like some of the development
streams, that have essentially throttled deployment by the use of
anti-commercial licenses?

-- 
"Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer."
-- Edsger W.Dijkstra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/wpeditors.html>

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 4 Jun 1999 17:41:13 PST

In article <3d_53.15457$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The "free of cost" sense that is true for some ways that one might use
>Sybase's Linux release only expresses one meaning out of those 20-odd.

Ahhh...apparently you didn't find my sentence ambiguous.

>Are you sure the meaning is as simple as you are claiming?  Or should
>you perhaps consult the OED?

Why don't you post a definition of "free" that you think applies
to software distributed under the GPL and we'll see if it really
fits.

(the sense of "unfettered", as one poster suggested, doesn't
apply - GPL-distributed software is hardly unfettered).

Now, as it happens I very much like the GPL.  Nor do I use
Sybase, I use open-source Postgres for my personal work.

But, when I posted that Sybase is free on Linux, I do believe
that the meaning was clear.
-- 

- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Is This Illegal?
Date: 4 Jun 1999 16:28:40 GMT

On 04 Jun 1999 09:44:37 -0400, 
 Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:10:45 -0400, 
> >  DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > brian moore wrote:
> > > > But it's not a gray market at all.  It's quite legal (and the GPL
> > > > encourages it) to redistribute GPL'd code.  It's more than just your
> > > > right: the goals of the GPL are to make it almost a responsibility to
> > > > share software with everyone.
> > > 
> > > The GPL neither encourages nor discourages the distribution of
> > > software.  It only specifies terms under which such distribution
> > > is allowed.  The goal of the GPL is to ensure you have the right
> > > to use and change your software, not to make GPL'd software popular.
> > 
> > Actually it is.
> > 
> > The purpose of the GPL is precisely to make software popular, as in 'of
> > the people.'
> > 
> > The goal of the GPL includes not only "the right to use and change your
> > software", most importantly it includes the right to distribute those
> > changes to others.
> 
> but *not* the *resposibility* to distribute those changes.  if i alter
> a gnu program and use it myself, i am allowed to sit on it.  if i
> distribute no binaries, i need not distribute any source.

Hence the use of the word 'almost'.

> > > Have you read the GPL lately?
> 
> > To say that the GPL doesn't encourage distribution of code is
> > nonsense.
> 
> it doesn't.  in a nutshell, the GPL says
> 1) if you provide binaries, you must make source available.

Yes.

> 2) you cannot restrict the downstream people from distributing the
>    software.

It says that, too.

But it also gives the reasons for it.

I suggest you look for 'COPYING' on your system and read it: don't skip
the preamble this time, though.  (And note that the copyright on the
GPL itself forbids removing the preamble from the legalese portion while
you're there -- it's all one document.)

> it doesn't say you *must* publish and disseminate anything you do with
> it.  if you choose not to share, you do not have to share anything.
> there are legitimate reasons for not wanting to share.  but you do not
> need any sort of reason.  you can do it just because you want to be a
> mean bastard.  please note that the right to *not* distribute
> *anything* is also part of the GPL.

Please note that there are two portions of the GPL: the legal framework
(which, because it is a legal document is limited in what it can require
or grant) and the preamble which explains the purpose and spirit of the
GPL.  The preamble is as much a part of the GPL as the legal portion
(and should the GPL ever appear in a court case, the preamble can be
used as part of the documentation of the 'meeting of minds' that must
take place with a contract, despite not being a legal document).

Arguing that the legal portion of the GPL doesn't mandate that you share
code is missing the point.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Test your knowledge of Linux at new site!
Date: 5 Jun 1999 00:44:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:05:29 +0000, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>(1) Using the language of your choice, write a non recursive Bezier
>>curve algorithm. You have 1 hour.
...
>>(2) Using the language of your choice, write an algorithm that receives
>>an array of coordinates defining a 2 dimensional shape of an arbitrary
>>number of sides and calculates the area. You have 1 day.
...
>>(3) Using the language of your choice, write an algorithm that receives
>>a two dimensional array of coordinates defining a 3 dimensional object
>>of an arbitrary number of sides and calculates the volume. You have 3
>>days.
...
>Side issue: Take a polyhedron of density D (0<D<1) and float it
>in a noncompressible liquid of density 1 within another polyhedron,
>usually a parallelpiped.  An interesting computation might be how
>deep it would float in the liquid and how high the liquid would rise
>(easy if the vessel holding the liquid has vertical walls, but
>don't assume this!) Assume the floating polyhedron is fixed in orientation.
>
>You have 1 week, 3 days. :-)
>
>(For extra credit, work out the final orientation of the floating
>polyhedron.  :-) ) [+]
...
>>(4) Using the language of your choice, write an algorithm that receives
>>an array of coordinates and meta information that represents a street
>>map. (Meta information contains one-way attributes, speed limit, and
>>probability of traffic congestion based on time of day.) The algorithm
>>also receives a starting coordinate (A), an end coordinate (B), and time
>>of day when travel begins. Return an array of coordinates that represent
>>the fastest way to get from point A to point B. You have 1 week.

Hey, is comp.contests used for anything useful anymore?  These problems
sound like interesting things to design the most efficient algorithm for
determining the answers.  Contest anyone?

-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: xenix drives
Date: 5 Jun 1999 00:46:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:45:32 GMT,
Elijah Menifee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need to have access to a datafile that is on the xenix drive, xenix
>can mount a dos fs, but only supports the DOS 16bit <33M, and the file I
>need off the xenix system is much larger then the size of a dos
>partition that it supports:

Just tar it onto an unused partition.  Sacrifice some swap if you have
to.



-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: Gutrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output...
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:43:30 GMT

If you don't have Yast (ie SuSe linux) then you would enter nameserver
info into /etc/resolv.conf

-Gut

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fahlis) wrote:
> Well,I had almost the exact same output,I solved it by
> putting in my ISP�s nameserver in networkconfiguration in Yast.
> Hope it helps.
>
> /fahlis
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: "su" always returns 0
Date: 5 Jun 1999 00:58:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 2 Jun 1999 18:04:45 GMT, 
 Mike McDonald, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       Bryan Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Apparently, any command executed through an "su" will always have a
>> return code of 0!  I've tested this with a variety of commands.
>
>> Does anyone have any ideas either how this can be fixed, or a logical
>> explanation of why this was done?
>
>  My guess is that su is telling you it succeeded, not that the command it
>executed did. I've run into a similar thing with rsh (not limited to linux,
>btw). The status returned indicates whether rsh succeeded, not whether the
>remote command did or not. It makes sense in a perberse sort of way.
>
>  Mike McDonald
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


this is similar to the "file not found" error when a #! script can't find
it's interpreter, the shell returns as if the script itself was not found.

-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: SUSE 6.1 and (unfortunately!) MS Windows 9X Install Question
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:28:09 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:11:20 -0500, 
 Dan Star, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>Hi there,
>
>I am going to jump into Linux and would like to buy a system
>prequalified to run Linux such as IndyBox as I do not have enough spare
>time to deal with the hassles of building a sytem from scratch.  My
>question is: if the computer comes with Linux installed is there a way
>to install Windows 9X without having to re-install Linux?
>
>--Dan

In short, yes. 
In long form. If you have enough disk space, and reinstall lilo after windows
blows away the mbr, yes.

Simplest thing would be to have the boxbuilder partition the drive with 
/dev/hda1 as a full windows size partition, with whatever size you want, and
make sure they include a rescue disk so you can reinstall lilo after 
M$ nukes it.

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: Paul John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Real Audio does not work.  Why?
Date: 03 Jun 1999 12:00:49 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson) writes:

It would be nice if you posted your solution so that others may
benefit.

> Somebody finally forwarded me information about a patch.  Nevermind.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mike dombrowski)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: CRAZY IDEA: Linux Box as TCP/IP Network Audio/Visual Server?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 01:46:58 GMT

On 4 Jun 1999 04:54:24 GMT, Cyrus Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I was wondering if the following was possible (or even desireable)
>
>I want to set up a home network for data,audio(stereo output), and video.  I want a 
>central
>consolidated server for the deal, I dont want to run Data wire, speaker wire, and 
>COAX to every port
>and figure out a way to switch between all the different connections
>
>
>
>
>
>Suppose you have:
>a Linux Box (any Distro, any kernal you want)
>A TCP/IP 10/100BaseT network with CAT5 wiring
>Quality Soundcard
>Quality Video Card
>
>Is it possible to use the Linux Box as a server to send an audio/visual signal
>to network ports so that I could hook up a TV and/or some stereo speakers to a network
>port WITHOUT a client computer to receive the signal and translate for the 
>TV/Speakers.
>
>I was thinking of a simple device that would connect to a network port and output a 
>something
>relateively simply like an RCA type connection (you know left channel, reight 
>channel, and/or video channel)
>
>
>Any thoughts, ideas, flames, go ahead......
>
>CKM
>

Nice thought but no. I was thinking of doing the same but there is no
such thing. You could have no soundcard in the main machine and a
junky video card and have a large harddrive and (I know you don't want
this) a client computer with sound/video to mount it's fs off the
server. Or you'd have to run 3 cable all over your house.

Mike

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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 19:14:42 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mice recommendations

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> What mice do most people recommend to use with Linux?
> 
> Greg
I always use serial Logitech Pilot mice. They have 3 buttons, are cheap
and very robust. But it seems to me that there are two totally different
versions of this out there. I bought them three times and two times I
got crap mice...

Marc Mutz

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Looking for small business accounting pkg.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 01:52:35 GMT

On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:21:53 -0500, Chris Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I am looking for a small business accounting package for Linux. Need GL, AR,

See http://linuxtoday.com/stories/5022.html

Dave Cook

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: enable modem for single session
Date: 4 Jun 1999 17:02:27 GMT

In <7j8rg2$ftm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Willingham 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Does anyone know how to enable a modem for a single session?
>We want techs to be able to dial in to our system, but don't want to leave 
>the modem enabled all of the time, and we don't want to rely on someone 
>turning off the (external) modem after the session is over.
>We'd like to be able to run a script that activates the modem for one 
>session, then disable it until the script is run again.

Youdo not make clear what itis you want to do. Clearly the modem must be
"switched" on  for someone to use it. Are you willing to have someone
there to do it for you? etc

Anyway, let me go through some scenarios. You have the modem on a phone
line which is usually used for phone, not modem, but sometimes you want
it used for modem use.
If this is the case, then use the ringagain option in mgetty. It allows
you to set it up so that you have to cal in twice to get connected. The
first time the modem is primed. Ie you call in and hang up. Then if you
call again after 20 sec and before 45 sec, the modem will now answer the
phone. Thus people calling in will not get the modem unless they go
through the above sequence. Also, if your modem has callerid, the second
call must be from teh same callerid number as the first for the modem to
pick up the call.

Alternatively, you can use mgetty, and have two mgetty.config files--
one answers the phone after 2 rings say and teh other after 100 rings.
Then just have a script to switch the links

ln -sf /etc/ppp/mgetty.config.4 /etc/ppp/mgetty.config
or
ln -sf /etc/ppp/mgetty.config.100 /etc/ppp/mgetty.config

Note that with mgetty it is NOT the modem which answers the phone, but
rather mgetty which sends the ATA to answer. Thus the complete control
is in software.

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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 19:01:04 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Link Question

Arthur Merar wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am a bit new to Linux.  I have Jet Admin for Linux and I want to
> install it.  However, it is sitting on my Windows box.   How can I
> create a link from my Linux box through my network to my Windows box
> so I can get this archive?
Use an ftp client on the windows machine.
e.g. in MSDOS-box type

ftp <your-linux-box's-hostname>
(log in as if you were logging in at the console)
(if you mistyped you PW or so and you do not see:
OK - user ... logged in
use 'user' to retry)
(you are now at the ftp prompt)
(ftp>) lcd <directory with files to upload>
(ftp>) cd <directory to which the files should be uploaded>
(ftp>) put <filename> (or) mput <filemask, e.g. *.rpm>
(ftp>) bye (i.e. log out)

Marc Mutz

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