Linux-Misc Digest #502, Volume #20                Sat, 5 Jun 99 07:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: IP Masquerade over paralell line (Peter Caffin)
  Re: Performance tuning of FreeBSD and Linux: pointers requested (Robert Huff)
  Linux Red Hat 6.0 with two monitors ("raul")
  Re: KDE is giving me huge fucking headaches... (Jonas Pedersen)
  Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output... (Gernot Fink)
  Re: ANNOUNCE: JASSPA distribution of MicroEmacs '99 (Jon Green)
  Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory! (James Stafford)
  Re: Does Java run well on Linux? ("Pokka")
  Re: Boot still hangs at: Ok booing the kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Initial string for u.s.r. external modem? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Problem with installing RPM files in Slackware (Beed)
  Leafnode Problem with TRN (Dr Vincent C Jones PE)
  Re: Problems connecting to MySQL database in MS Access 2000... ("tester")
  Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Keven R. Pittsinger)
  Does WABI work in Red Hat Linux 6.0? (Brad Corsello)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Jim Henderson)
  Re: Peeling off HTML code... (Ding-Jung Han)
  Which Internet Service Provider is especially Linux-friendly? 
(Dxx-Richard_T_Myers(00))

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP Masquerade over paralell line
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:22:24 +0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The plan:  To vastly expand my A1200 when I return home from University
> in about two weeks, and install Debian.  To connect it to my 486 Linux
> box via the parallel port,

On DOS machines, there are drivers for ethernet across the parallel ports
of two PCs. You've got to rig up a special cable for it, however. I'd be
very surprised if there wasn't a Mini-HOWTO or some documentation on
getting this going under Linux.

> that being the only port which is free on the 486 box.

However, to save yourself an awful lot of work, you might find it easier
to pick up a 4-port or 8-port multi-IO card to replace the 2-port job on
most standard PCs. You'd then have an extra port waiting. This is more
expensive, however, it'll save you time and give you a little more
flexibility.

> To use my 486 box to connect to my ISP via ppp.  To use
> IP-Masquerading to access the net via my amiga and 486 box
> simultaneously?

Not a problem. ipfwadmin.

> What sort of cable would I need?

For the parallel port method? Two parallel cables that you can reasonably
easily take apart and solder the insides of. Networking with parallel
ports is rare enough that you'll be *very* lucky if you find anything
pre-made.

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From: Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Performance tuning of FreeBSD and Linux: pointers requested
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:04:12 -0400

Chris Hedley wrote:

> [1] An enormous slab of ceramic, 5 inches per side, with around 5,000 pins,
> half of which do I/O.  The slab is *covered* in silicon, including no less
> than 14 S/390s at well over 600Mhz and lots of cache.  How they hope to cool
> that bugger I've no idea.

        Liquid nitrogen.
        Back in college, in the early 1980s, I heard a report from a
usually reliable source that someone at IBM Cambridge Scientific
Center (I think) had asked "Exactly how small can we make a System
370?" (Not including peripherals, but including all the channel
controllers.)
        Several million dollars later, the answer was: about the size of a
large loaf of bread.  The thing had wires coming out all over and
lived in a fish-tank (25 gal. ?) of liquid nitrogen.  The cooling
used more power than running the electronics.


                                Robert Huff

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From: "raul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Red Hat 6.0 with two monitors
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:31:29 +0200

Can I plug two video cards in linux, with kernel 2.2.5?




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From: Jonas Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE is giving me huge fucking headaches...
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:03:11 +0200

Le physicien nocturne wrote:

> Zeleng wrote:
>
> > It's been a week since I first tried to install the K Desktop
> > Environment...  and for a week now, I still haven't been able to pass
> > the "./configure" stage.
> >
> > At some point during the configuration, it gives me an error message:
> >
> >         checking for KDE... configure: error:
> >         in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed.
> >         This will fail.  So, check this please and use another prefix!
> >
> > I've tried EVERYTHING:  I've tried depackaging 'kdebase-1.1.1.tar.gz' to
> > different directories;  I've tried unsucessfully to change some stuff in
> > that 'configure' file; I've tried to create symbolic links with some
> > headers in every subdirectories inimaginable in /usr/local/kde (where
> > KDE Base is unpacked).  Hell, I even e-mailed Stephen Kulow, but got no
> > answer as of yet...
> >
> > What the hell is wrong with me?  Some help would be most welcomed...
> >
> > BTW, I'm running Slackware 3.6 with the 2.0.35 Linux kernel.
> >
> > -- Zeleng --
>
> I also use Slackware 3.6 with kernel 2.0.35
> I installed KDE successfully but the files need to be compiled in a certain
> order
>
> First, kdelibs
>
> kdebase
> kdesupport
> kdeadmin
> kdenetwork
> kdeutils
> kdegraphics
> kdemultimedia
> kdegames
> killustrator
>
> This should help, good luck!
>
> Jacques

I would recommend to compile kdesupport first, and then kdelibs and so on.



Jonas Pedersen


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gernot Fink)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output...
Date: 5 Jun 1999 09:09:28 GMT

>>-------------------
>>Jun  4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
>>Jun  4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: Using interface ppp0
>>Jun  4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS3
>>Jun  4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <magic 0xfba16783>
>><pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <magic 0xfba16783>
>><pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth
>>chap 80> <magic 0x7d7f> <pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x0 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth
>>chap 80> <magic 0x7d7f> <pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <magic 0xfba16783>
>><pcomp> <accomp>]

It loocks to me as an other programm like mgetty dont see the 
lockfile and accesses ttyS3.

Make sure all programmes use the same lockfile.
(/dev/modem can be a link to /dev/ttyS3 what lead to 2 different locks to the same 
com-port)

Also lock must be in pppd's options




>>Jun  4 19:19:44 PC pppd[456]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
>>Jun  4 19:19:44 PC pppd[456]: Modem hangup
>>Jun  4 19:19:44 PC pppd[456]: Connection terminated.
>>Jun  4 19:19:45 PC pppd[456]: Exit.
>>Jun  4 19:21:22 PC pppd[464]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
>>Jun  4 19:21:22 PC pppd[464]: Using interface ppp0
>>Jun  4 19:21:22 PC pppd[464]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS3
>>Jun  4 19:21:22 PC pppd[464]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <magic 0xebee4560>
>><pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:21:25 PC pppd[464]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <magic 0xebee4560>
>><pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:21:25 PC pppd[464]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth
>>chap 80> <magic 0x2640> <pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:21:25 PC pppd[464]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x0 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth
>>chap 80> <magic 0x2640> <pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:21:25 PC pppd[464]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <magic 0xebee4560>
>><pcomp> <accomp>]
>>Jun  4 19:21:47 PC pppd[464]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
>>Jun  4 19:21:47 PC pppd[464]: Modem hangup
>>Jun  4 19:21:47 PC pppd[464]: Connection terminated.
>>Jun  4 19:21:48 PC pppd[464]: Exit.
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-------------
>>
>>I know my provider is using CHAP authentification and that I have to add
>>username + password to the /etc/ppp/chap-secrets, but using kppp it tells me
>>(I have the German version, the English output may differ):
>>
>>        modem ready
>>        dialing <number>
>>        network login
>>
>>Then (after some 30 seconds) it hangs up the modem. But: I DON'T KNOW WHY!!!
>>Please help me, thanx.
>>
>>                Melle

-- 
MFG Gernot

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From: Jon Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: JASSPA distribution of MicroEmacs '99
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 10:25:00 +0100

Christopher Browne wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 18:19:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >           JASSPA distribution of MicroEmacs '99
> >                     New Beta available
> 
> Burning question: Under what license is it distributed?
> 
> Are they free software?  Or are they like some of the development
> streams, that have essentially throttled deployment by the use of
> anti-commercial licenses?
> 
> --
> "Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
> one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer."
> -- Edsger W.Dijkstra
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/wpeditors.html>


The On-line help information shows the copyright as:-

> COPYRIGHT
> 
>     The following copyrights apply from the original source code of version 
>     3.8. No explicit copyrights were found with the original distribution 
>     apart from the following found in the main source code, 
> 
>         (C)opyright 1987 by Daniel M. Lawrence 
>         MicroEMACS 3.8 can be copied and distributed freely for any 
>         non-commercial purposes. MicroEMACS 3.8 can only be incorporated into 
>         commercial software with the permission of the current author. 
> 
>     The following notices apply after 1988. 
> 
>         Copyright (C) 1988 - 1999, JASSPA 
>         MicroEmacs '99 can be copied and distributed freely for any 
>         non-commercial purposes. MicroEmacs '99 can only be incorporated into 
>         commercial software with the expressed permission of JASSPA. 
> 
>     The spelling dictionaries are converted from ispell dictionaries, each 
>     spelling dictionary has it's own copyright which is reproduced within the 
>     appropriate language spelling macro file. 
> 
>     INFORMATION 
> 
>     JASSPA have previously contacted Danial Lawrence in an attempt to move the 
>     copyright to the GNU General Public License (GPL). JASSPA feel that a 
>     lifting of the copyright would further promote a general acceptance of the 
>     distribution. Danial denied our requests, as such we are obliged to 
>     maintain the copyright in it's current form and honor Denial's wishes. 

The code is based on Danial Lawrences original MicroEmacs. As with the vi editor
vile (or is it xvile ?) which is also based on MicroEmacs then the distribution
it is constrained by Danial Lawrence - the original author.

So in answer to your question - it is throttled by the deployment of an
anti-commercial license. 

However, after checking MicroEmacs 4.0, which is Danial Lawrences current 
offering the following notices apply - these should equally apply to the JASSPA
distribution since it is based on the 1988 release:-

        * Commercial users may use MicroEMACS inhouse.
        * Shareware distributors may redistribute MicroEMACS 
          for media costs only.

Hence, the licence allows commercial use - what you are not allowed to do
is exploit the software commercially for profit i.e. incorporate the source
into commercial code or start selling the software for profit.

I would suggest that JASSPA include the exceptions above in their distributuion
for clarity.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Jon Green.

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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory!
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:30:45 -0700

>  Netscape for example often grows to more than 30M!
>
> I have 64MB of RAM and can't even use Netscape without a swap
> partition!!

jamess


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From: "Pokka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does Java run well on Linux?
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:22:21 +0800

benjamin j snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7j600s$19$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Stephan Houben  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry that had nothing to do with Java, it's just something that struck me
when
> I read that.
>

Sorry, the fact is: Java is as crappy as (if not more crappy than) Windoze.
If you ever tried writing an application on Java, you'll notice that its
performance is worse than the worst VB program you can write.  The latest
version (2.x) is a joke.  I used to have a P100 32MB RAM PC.  It's so slow
that I can see how the menus are drawn.  Its performance is tolerable now
after I upgraded the PC to 450Mhz AMD K6-2 with 192 MB RAM.

In fact, Javasoft is becoming more like M$:  memory hogs and numberous
patches in short period of time.

Pokka






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Boot still hangs at: Ok booing the kernel
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:23:03 GMT

On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:05:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry) wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:44:08 -0400, Paul Rowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote:
> >make dep;make clean;make;make modules;make modules_install;make install;
> >lilo
> 
> 
> This is what I do and it works every time:
> 
> make config
> make dep 
> make clean
> make zImage
> make modules
> make modules_install
> Copy zImage to /  (my boot directory)
> edit /etc/lilo.conf to add new kernel name, (if different from old one)
> run lilo
> reboot
> have fun...
> 
> 
> I've never seen the 'make install' used in the kernel build. Though I'm not
> saying you can't do that.  I also notice when you used 'make' you didn't
> tell it WHAT to make. Though I'm no expert there either.

hi there

        Question:

        i usally end up using bzImage because of a large kernel config , do i
also add the bz to the other commands after make bzmage?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Initial string for u.s.r. external modem?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:23:03 GMT

On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:14:17, "Frank Yan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've got an external us robotics modem, 56K, model 5686. I want to
> use it under RH 5.2, but I cannot find a good initial string for this guy,
> so that I got a very slow modem speed.  Does anyone knows about
> what's the initial string for this model of modem?
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Frank
> 
> hello there

                ATDT works for me.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Beed)
Subject: Problem with installing RPM files in Slackware
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 03:04:49 GMT

Hi
        I installed RPM sofware. When I ran the command "rpm -i
filename.rpm", I got a message "failed dependencies", then it
displayed a list of library files which were availible in my linux
system. Anyone knows why it happens. please advice me. Thank you very
much.

Jack

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Subject: Leafnode Problem with TRN
From: Dr Vincent C Jones PE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:29:48 GMT

Is anyone out there using trn with leafnode successfully? Trn has a
nasty habit of messing up the .newsrc file when marking xrefs as read,
causing it to reset the pointers. A search of deja news only finds
others asking this same question, but no answers...

Thanks in advance...

Vince

-- 
   Dr. Vincent C. Jones, PE              Expert advice and a helping hand
   Computer Network Consultant           for those who want to manage and
   Networking Unlimited, Inc.            control their networking destiny
   http://www.networkingunlimited.com
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  +1 201 568-7810  Fax: +1 201 568-6626 

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From: "tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems connecting to MySQL database in MS Access 2000...
Crossposted-To: 
comp.databases,microsoft.public.access.externaldata,microsoft.public.access.importexportlink,microsoft.public.access.internet,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:28:52 -0700

Which is located at:
<http://www.mysql.org/Manual_chapter/manual_Privilege_system.html>


Richard Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7j773g$o7d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> you need to setup the user permission ! Read the Session 6 of Mysql Manual!
> 
> basically, you need to add the NT ip into the user table at the database
> mysql.
> 
> email me if you need more help
> 
> testing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:01beae1b$2c560ee0$24921e18@obi-wan-kenobi...
> > [TCX][MyODBC]Host 'myipaddr.myisp.com' is not allowed to connect to this
> > MySQL server (#1130)[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Connection not open
> > (#0)
> >
> > The MySQL server is on my Linux box which is on my LAN.  I am in Windows
> NT
> > Workstation right now trying to connect to the database in MS Access, but
> > it says my IP isn't allowed.  How do I add allowed host masks or IP
> numbers
> > to MySQL?  I didn't see any option to do it in mysqladmin...
> >
> 
> 
> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 5 Jun 1999 10:10:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7j8hk9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Reinier Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>For one thing, where does SuSe stash my *mail*????  It
>>sure ain't /var/pool/mail, unless I screwed something up...
> 
> It's in /var/spool/mail, as expected.

Heh.  The first time I installed it and got onto the net to get my mail,
it tossed the incoming mail into the bit bucket.  This installation, it
seems to work ok.

But what *RILLY* maxxes me off is sendmail.  It's not a mail handler, it's
a *religion*, requiring the sacrifice of small cute furry animals on a
regular basis to work properly.  <sigh>  IMNSFBHO, the *only* thing
holding Linux back from being a true desktop OS is its lack of *EASILY*
configurable mail tools.  By this, I mean, you edit a flat ASCII file (or
run a tool provided by your friendly distro compiler), fill in some info
about your SNTP mail server, such as IP number and name, and *ALL* your
mail goes to it on a send.  This *shouldn't* be that hard, dammit.
Configuring sendmail can be a *nightmare* for somebody who knows a *bit*
about what they're doing; for a rookie, it's almost impossible to deal
with without a lot of headbanging.  <sigh>  It *SHOULDN'T* require buying
a $30 book just to email the planet.

Keven
-- 
tc++ tm+ tn t4- to ru++ ge+ 3i c+ jt au st- ls pi+ ta+ he+ so- vi zh sy
==============================================================================
                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure
                                                     In Reavers' Deep



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello)
Subject: Does WABI work in Red Hat Linux 6.0?
Reply-To: bcorsello[AT]usa[DOT]net
Date: 5 Jun 1999 04:24:16 GMT

Before I plunk down US$42 for a copy of WABI so I can run Quicken, does anyone
know if it works on a Red Hat 6.0 system?  Any glibc compatability issues or
somesuch?

(And yes, I know about Wine. Wine has one teensy drawback -- it don't work.)


-- 
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No animals were harmed in the writing of this message.
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:04:24 -0600

Chad Mulligan wrote:
 
> Miguel Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:IsT43.1183$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> *NT* afaik is *not* free.
> > >
> > > Either is a professional UNIX.
> >
> > I take it your definition of a professional Unix is "one that is not
> > available for free."
> >
> > miguel
> Essentially, hobbyists don't have the discipline to do it properly.  For
> examples look at Disk Druid, and RH 6.0.

Bull.  I've installed RH6 on a number of systems and never had a problem
with Disk Druid.  What is this supposed 'bug' that's supposed to exist
in these products?

I have found, in the distributions I have worked with (RedHat 5.2,
RedHat 6 and Debian 2.1) the programs included to generally be *better*
than so-called "professional" quality software.  Hobbists started this
industry and a number of others by doing it *better* than the pros.

Jim
-- 
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Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)

Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
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From: Ding-Jung Han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Peeling off HTML code...
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:11:12 -0400

All right here is the URL:

http://www.cnn.com/audioselect/

I would like to extract the exact URL for 'Headline News' (Real 28.8+).
The frame source says:

<A HREF="javascript:parent.frames[0].real('cnnhn')" ...

I'm not good at javascript, but I guess there's one 'parent' frame which
lists all the 'exact' ram URLs?

Another (hopefully) useful info: I changed the application setting in
Netscape for .ram to

echo %s > URL

and checked the output file -- it points to a ram file in my /tmp
directory! Any idea?

Ben


Scott Lanning wrote:
> 
> Ding-Jung Han ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I'm trying to launch RealPlayer to listen to CNN headline news -- more
> : precisely I use at command to start the broadcasting at a specific time
> : (e.g. morning call). Unfortunately the exact URL for the headline news
> : ram stream is buried inside javascript code. Now the challenge: is it
> : possible to 'peel off' the javascript code and get to the correct ram
> : URL, so that command-line playback is possible? How? What tools are
> : necessary?
> 
> You could use lynx -dump, along with perl. From command line, something
> like:
> 
> # lynx -dump http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9906/04/kosovo.peace.02| \
> perl -ne'if(/script:vod/){s#.*/#http://www.cnn.com/blahblahblah/#;\
> s/html.*/ram/;print}'
> 
> This prints out some URLs, but maybe not exactly what you're looking
> for, as I didn't find exactly what you're talking about, the headline
> news ram stream... If you tell me exactly, maybe I could hone it down
> to the specific URL; probably each day it changes according to the
> date, etc..
> 
> --
> Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
> "If lightning is the anger of the gods, the gods are concerned mostly
> with trees." --Lao Tse

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dxx-Richard_T_Myers(0)0)
Subject: Which Internet Service Provider is especially Linux-friendly?
Date: 5 Jun 1999 11:05:15 GMT

I am shopping for an ISP, and will be using several home systems with
Linux and Windows installed. I'm interested in newsgroups, PPP, and having
a shell account on an ISP system for web-hosting. Reasonable flat rate for
normal access much preferred. (I'm in the Denver Colorado area)

Suggestions?


thanks,
--
richard myers
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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