Linux-Misc Digest #511, Volume #20 Sun, 6 Jun 99 02:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (W Canedigh)
Re: What could it be? Help needed (Denis)
Re: What could it be? Help needed (Denis)
Re: Initial string for u.s.r. external modem? ("Frank Yan")
Third-party e-mail notification ("Bill K.")
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: making linux go away (Tim Sutherland)
Re: log a user's inbound/outbound mail? (Tim Sutherland)
configurable database program for Linux ("Ronald D. Haynes")
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Denis)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (W Canedigh)
Re: IP Masquerade over paralell line (Jim Richardson)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (W Canedigh)
Writers wanted for zine articles. (Port Lord)
Re: Boot still hangs at: Ok booing the kernel
connection to ":0.0" refused by server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
i corrupted my /lib directory :( (Jeff Durham)
Linux Demo Days (W Canedigh)
i lost my boot disk ("KingJester")
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (W Canedigh)
Re: i lost my boot disk ("Prasanth Kumar")
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:56:57 -0400
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You are right, at first vi (and its clones / variants) are not a lot of
fun. So what? They are not meant to replace anything fancy ... they are
meant to be down & dirty answers to the problem of how to edit. At that
level they work just fine. Sheesh ... no one compares "editor" to
notepad, much less Write or Word, do they? Vi is "editor" in the Linux
world. Get over it.
Harry wrote:
>
> > Oh, why won't you just use the pico editor...
>
> Duh! Try following the thread! I've found a perfectly good text
> editor and have no interest in other text editors. I was expressing
> an opinion that vi ain't any good and others were leaping to its
> defence.
>
> Harry
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From: Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What could it be? Help needed
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:57:57 -0400
On Sat, 05 Jun 1999, Pat Heuvel wrote:
>Check your /etc/resolv.conf file. It should look something like:
>
>domain yourdomain.com
>nameserver 123.45.67.1
>nameserver 123.45.67.11
>
>If it doesn't, go into the networking applet in your working W95 setup
>and get the DNS information from there. Then enter the details in
>/etc/resolv.conf. I assume your Netscape setups are identical as far as
>server names are concerned.
thanks for helping me.
well, it does look fine:
search duke.edu
nameserver 152.3.250.1
nameserver 152.3.250.2
and like I said - I CAN connect to Duke, I just can't retrieve email
or telnet. is this file for that or for connecting to ISP?
thanks
denis
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From: Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What could it be? Help needed
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:06:51 -0400
On Sat, 05 Jun 1999, Pat Heuvel wrote:
>Check your /etc/resolv.conf file. It should look something like:
>
>domain yourdomain.com
>nameserver 123.45.67.1
>nameserver 123.45.67.11
>
>If it doesn't, go into the networking applet in your working W95 setup
>and get the DNS information from there. Then enter the details in
>/etc/resolv.conf. I assume your Netscape setups are identical as far as
>server names are concerned.
thanks for helping me.
well, it (/etc/resolv.conf) does look fine:
search duke.edu
nameserver 152.3.250.1
nameserver 152.3.250.2
and like I said - I CAN connect to Duke, I just can't retrieve email
or telnet. is this file for that or for connecting to ISP? what could be
responsible for it?
thanks
denis
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From: "Frank Yan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Initial string for u.s.r. external modem?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:20:31 -0400
>
> ATDT works for me.
>
Thanks, but I mean initial string, not how to dial.
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From: "Bill K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Third-party e-mail notification
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:36:17 GMT
Does anybody know of any software or how to set up existing standard
Linux software to send notification of new mail to a third party without
actually sending its content? This would be quite useful for those who
rarely check their mail to have a third person notify them of mail
receipt without compromising any privacy.
--
Bill K. ( b i l l y @ c a f e . n e t )
**** WARNING **** All unsolicited bulk e-mail received at this address
will be promptly reported to the sender's system administrator, and to
law enforcement authorities whenever applicable.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 04:40:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Alex Lam wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
>> fine until
>> I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
>> netscape frozen
>> up. All the keys and mouse are disabled. <ctrl><alt><del> had no
>
>I think that generally control/alt/delete does nothing in X.
It doesn't. But, unless things are really bad, you can switch to
another virtual terminal with <ctrl><alt><Fx> where Fx is some function
key, like F2, F3, F4 (usually you startx from virtual terminal at F1,
and it puts it out on something like F7 or F8, you want to go somewhere
in between, then, from the command line, use ps to find out what processes
are running then kill them (use kill -9 if you want to use the big hammer)
until you get satisfaction.
...<snip>...
>--
>Cheers,
>Bev
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>"Why put fault tolerance in the OS, when it's already built
> into the User?" -- Steve Shaw, regarding Win95
>
>
--
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum.
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." A toned down
adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: 6 Jun 1999 04:18:39 GMT
In article <7iv13k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, adam howard wrote:
>talk about a waste of bandwidth....do we really need a few dozen people to
>give the same answer?
Articles aren't propogated everywhere instantly - at the time people reply to a
message there may not be any replies. For instance, I expect others to make
similar comments to this one, yet I do not currently see any replies to your
message.
>> How do I get rid of Linux in the boot sector (I guess that's where it
>> is) once and for all?
--
Marriage is an institution in which two undertake to become one, and one
undertakes to become nothing.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Subject: Re: log a user's inbound/outbound mail?
Date: 6 Jun 1999 04:18:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joe Robertson wrote:
>Hello fellow Linux users.. I managing a linux server that a lot of users
>use, and we have a certain user we suspect is doing illicit activity
>through e-mail. However, he promptly cleans his sent-mail and incoming
>mailbox, so we do not have any proof but the audit trails /etc/maillog
>leaves(which don't tell us the contents of the message). I am wondering,
>for this and for future reference, is there a way to save a copy of a
>user's inbound and/or outbound mail to a file without his/her knowledge?
>We're running RedHat 6.0 with kernel 2.2.5.
Implementation depends on the MTA used, but set it up to forward a copy of all
mail for that user to a chosen destination.
Whether this is ethical is another question.
--
Linux, the way to get rid of boot viruses
-- MaDsen Wikholm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ronald D. Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: configurable database program for Linux
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 20:43:34 -0700
Hi, I am looking for a configurable database program for Linux. I am
trying to catologue some collections that I have. A Linux program like
Access would be great.
Please reply via email as well as to the newsgroup.
Thanks for your advice:
Cheers:)
R Haynes
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From: Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:13:26 -0400
it happened to me, too. and i too had to turn off the power
many times. seems like it's okay for linux, though i understand there
is nothing good about.
(sorry - i didn't give any solutions)
denis
On Sat, 05 Jun 1999, Peter Eddy wrote:
>Alex Lam wrote:
>>
>
>This has happened to me recently on RH 5.2 w/Netscape 4.6. I had the
>same symptoms as you, but of course it could be a different problem.
>Anyway, if you're lucky enough to be on a network, you can telnet to
>your linux box and kill X or whatever it is that's locked up the
>keyboard/mouse.
>
>Peter
>
>> Alex Lam wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
>> > fine until
>> > I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
>> > netscape frozen
>> > up. All the keys and mouse are disabled. <ctrl><alt><del> had no
>> > effect either. I was forced to power off (without shutdown command) to
>> > reboot. Fortunity, linux lived through the process.
>> >
>> > What should I do if this happen again?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Alex Lam.
>> >
>> > --
>> > *remove the X if reply by e mail.
>> > ** no more M$ Windoze.
>>
>> I believe java is causing the problem.
>>
>> But still like to know how to get out properly.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Alex Lam.
>> --
>> *remove the X if reply by e mail.
>> ** no more M$ Windoze.
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:12:30 -0400
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With all due deference, simply running RegClean from MSFT is a big
"tweak" ... that registry file is a bugger! Doing that helps with
starting and stopping and the occaisional program that still wants to
load even though you have (properly) uninstalled it. I, also, am
'migrating' from Win95 to Linux. I installed it to learn it ... to
compare it. Once I know what I am doing, I may even hang out a shingle
to see if any money will stick to it.
Matt O'Toole wrote:
> The only way to "tweak" Windows is to do a clean install on a better
> machine. Then, get to work at whatever you're using the computer for.
> Anything else is a waste of time.
>
> Matt O.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: IP Masquerade over paralell line
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:29:08 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 01:26:16 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>I recently posted this to comp.os.linux.m68k; unfortunately without
>much in the way of response. Since the subject is not really at all
>that m68k related, I'm reposting here:
>
>The plan: To vastly expand my A1200 when I return home from University
>in about two weeks, and install Debian. To connect it to my 486 Linux
>box via the parallel port, that being the only port which is free on
>the 486 box. To use my 486 box to connect to my ISP via ppp. To use
>IP-Masquerading to access the net via my amiga and 486 box
>simultaneously?
>
>Is this feasible?
>
>Have anyone tried to do anything similar?
>
>What sort of cable would I need?
>
>-- Big Gaute
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I think what you need to do, is read the plip-howto, it will cover in good
detail what you are asking for.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:26:12 -0400
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Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
> Do you really think it's better to be locked into a CLI? Why not have the
> option of either the mouse or keyboard at all times?
>
> Mac and Windows still have the best UIs, which is what makes them more
> usable for most people. Even if the underlying OS is crap, it's good enough
> for most users. More demanding users will come to Linux for a more solid
> OS, and put up with a clunky UI, if they can run the apps they need to get
> their work done.
>
> Matt O.
Matt, mostly I disagree with you, and this time is no exception :) I
don't think anyone is "locked into" the CLI. I am certain the folks at
KDE and Gnome (among others) would give you a spirited debate on that
point. My understanding is that earlier version of KDE were nothing
special ... but I have used a fairly recent version and like it just
fine.
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Subject: Writers wanted for zine articles.
Date: 6 Jun 1999 05:31:11 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Boot still hangs at: Ok booing the kernel
Date: 5 Jun 1999 23:40:47 -0600
On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:23:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mumbled:
>On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:05:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:44:08 -0400, Paul Rowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >make dep;make clean;make;make modules;make modules_install;make install;
>> >lilo
>>
>>
>> This is what I do and it works every time:
>>
>> make config
>> make dep
>> make clean
>> make zImage
>> make modules
>> make modules_install
>> Copy zImage to / (my boot directory)
>> edit /etc/lilo.conf to add new kernel name, (if different from old one)
>> run lilo
>> reboot
>> have fun...
>>
>>
>> I've never seen the 'make install' used in the kernel build. Though I'm not
>> saying you can't do that. I also notice when you used 'make' you didn't
>> tell it WHAT to make. Though I'm no expert there either.
>
>hi there
>
> Question:
>
> i usally end up using bzImage because of a large kernel config , do i
>also add the bz to the other commands after make bzmage?
Nope bzImge should only be used in the make part.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:24:24 -0500
Can anyone tell me what this error means?
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
I was groovin' right along happy as a clam 'cause for
the first time in a year, I had everything on my Linux
box working. All of a sudden like I had been smote
by the hand of God, up pops this message when I
tried to execute netscape. I also get it when I try to
open an xterm. No programs run on my machine
anymore either. What did I do?
Rick
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From: Jeff Durham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i corrupted my /lib directory :(
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:49:30 -0500
Ok, don't ask me how(long story), but everything in my /lib directory is
shot.. not recursively, just the immediate files there. Is there any way
I can get these back, without reinstalling everything? I "was" running
RedHat 6.0, kernel 2.2.5-15 on a 400Mhz Celeron, with the basic
services: pop, apache, sendmail, sshd, x, etc.. any help would be
_greatly_ appreciated.. please Cc an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
stupid jeff
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Demo Days
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:27:54 -0400
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I have been given responsibility for creating a database of equivalent
programs. That is, programs in Linux that ~ match functionality found in
a program running under any other operating system.
This database is by no means limited to Microsoft comparisons or even to
the English language.
The list will also include programs which were written for another OS
but are known to function through an emulator running under Linux.
Please email me directly with any suggestions you may have. If possible,
please include a URL/URI/URN for documentation / download, etc. for each
software application you refer. Also, if you would be so kind, please
mention which emulator was used.
TIA
Bill
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From: "KingJester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i lost my boot disk
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:52:56 -0500
I have windows NT server installed on one hard drive...I have linux on
another hard drive... i used a floppy to boot to linux...it no longer
exists.... what do i do?
thanx
kingjester
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:44:37 -0400
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I think it improper to compare an editor with a wordproc ... especially
since the word proc isn't usually available in a version small enough to
edit a crashed computers' files.
Using the space shuttle is THE way to travel ... unless you are just
trying to get some milk before dinner gets cold.
I had to LEARN every word proc I have ever used (including, but not
limited to, WordStar, WordPerfect, Textra, Write, Word and Ami Pro) ...
and right now I am learning vi because it seems like an essential skill
for a Unix user. For a certaintity I would not want to face a student
and admit I couldn't use it at all.
Even though I am still learning to use it, vi seems like "the way to go"
when all I need to do is uncomment a line in a configuration file or
adjust my bash prompt to suit me. It also looks like a good editor for
coding ... its search & replace functions are on a par with anything I
have ever seen ... and it runs in darned little memory.
Bill
Harry wrote:
>
> > Personally, I can't stand vi. But to say that using Wordperfect
> > to edit a simple text file is "more productive" is just plain
> > wrong. I could have made my change in pico or emacs before WP
> > has the document open.
>
> I'd have to agree with you there, though some early word processors
> and today's better text editors are very alike. I'd still rather use
> the copy of WordStar I was using back in the mid-eighties than vi.
> <s>
>
> Harry
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From: "Prasanth Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i lost my boot disk
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 05:48:53 GMT
Use an install disk and at the lilo prompt try something like "linux
root=/dev/hdb1" with the proper
boot partition. This worked for me. Once running Linux, create a new boot
disk. Under Redhat Linux,
something like "mkbootdisk" works.
KingJester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7jd0u3$cvm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have windows NT server installed on one hard drive...I have linux on
> another hard drive... i used a floppy to boot to linux...it no longer
> exists.... what do i do?
>
> thanx
> kingjester
>
>
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