Linux-Misc Digest #669, Volume #20 Thu, 17 Jun 99 06:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: vfat question (The Dude)
Re: How to reset modem after system crash? (Scott Lanning)
Re: searching for specific program
Re: No .bash_profile settings on startup (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~< (Chris Kloiber)
Re: first/second/third world (Ketil Z Malde)
smbmount (The Dude)
Re: Open Source (nlucent)
Re: KOULES doesn't run from normal user - Cannot get I/O permissions. (nlucent)
Re: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~< (David Tansley)
Netscape-Communicator >= 4.5x (Daniel Kollar)
dns server responses late (behapy)
Re: kernel mode programs (yes, this is on topic) (Buday Gergely)
Finding historically the number of seconds a user was logged in (Paul Wickham)
Re: capturing an image (nlucent)
Re: can't connect to my isp using kppp (neuhardt)
Re: Netscape + java = crash (Mark Howson)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Joseph T. Adams)
Re: Bandwidth priority? (Mike Jagdis)
Re: Linux systems- Poor security (Dr Paul Kinsler)
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From: The Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vfat question
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:03:15 GMT
If you'll type only 'My' and than the <TAB> you'll see that a '\'
(backslash) is added in the space between the words (that for "escape"
the space ). So again, cd My\ Documents. Hopped it helped.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Wilkins) wrote:
> How do you do a change directory to a vfat directory that has a space
> in it.
>
> I do a ls -l and get a directory such as My documents.
> then I do a cd My Documents and get an error.
>
> I use a utility such as mc and it can move throught the directories
> with no problem.
>
> How can I from the command line?
>
> Charles Wilkins CNE / MCP / A+
> Network Design Consultant
> Practical Computer Solutions
> http://www.pcscs.com
> 609-321-1530
> 609-321-0840 - fax
> --
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: How to reset modem after system crash?
Date: 17 Jun 1999 07:26:55 GMT
David Guertin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Upon restart, things come back to normal after fsck gets a workout.
: Except that now the modem is no longer working. PPP says the modem is
: busy. 'setserial /dev/ttyS2' responds with "/dev/ttyS2: Device or
: resource busy."
On Redhat 5.1,
# rm -f /var/run/ppp?.pid
where '?' is probably 0.
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Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"It showed a lady, with a fur cap on and a fur stole, sitting upright
and holding out to the spectator a huge fur muff into which the whole
of her forearm had vanished!" --From Franz Kafka's Metamorphosis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: searching for specific program
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:16:57 -0700
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:59:48 GMT, Jason Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 17 Jun 1999 04:18:35 GMT, William Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy jedi wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:37:55 GMT, A Dark Elf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking for a program that could take a MySQL database and create charts,
>>>>graphs, and spreadsheets out of them.. anyone knows of such a program?
>>
>>> Try php.
>>
>>Better to "roll" your own, using Python perhaps.
>
>If the UnixODBC people have a MySQL driver you might want to take a look at
>StarOffice. I know that there is a beta driver that works with PostgreSQL.
Nah, php doesn't need the extra level of redirection which
is ODBC (good or bad depending on your point of view) and
the user interface and automation potential is nicer with
a webserver based method. There's no cumbersome sql data
collection applet to deal with either. Although the one
in StarOffice might be decent. The one in office97 rather
blows.
Although, the graphics/graphing support in stock php is
currently rather crude. For more involved graphs a
spreadsheet like SO5 with odbc support would be a better
option.
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Seeking sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No .bash_profile settings on startup
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:22:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Al Spohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why is it that I always have to do a source ~/.bash_profile for any of
> my settings to be in effect on login?
I don't understand your question... :(
Is it a problem that you don't have '~/.bash_profile' ?
Do you think that it's erased somehow ??
After new install you have to create it yourself...
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From: Chris Kloiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
redhat.hardware.arch.intel,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~<
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 03:16:13 -0400
Sven Kopp wrote:
>
> I agree with mmb, I do have the same problems on my system.
> re-do the make, until the kernel has finished compiling (that's what I
> did), and it will work.
> Sven
>
> Serial # 0 wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 22 May 1999 20:59:58 GMT, "FTP server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I keep getting a sig11 when trying to make bzImage for my 2.2.9 kernel.
> > >Never completes the compile :(. I remember compiling kernels fine in
> > >Redhat 5.2..
> > >
> > >I have a P-60 cpu.
> >
> > hi
> > i see this error when my cpufan has an error or memory chip has an
> > error
> > mmb
Sig 11 usually indicates bad RAM.
Chris Kloiber.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:45:39 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) writes:
> I'm being deliberately harsh to focus attention on a totally ignored
> issue.
But the effect is that you turn focus away from the issues, and
towards the your manner of expression.
This is, I think, analogous to Goodwin's law.
-kzm
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From: The Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: smbmount
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 05:57:02 GMT
Hi guys.
How exactly do I use smbmount to connect to other machines on my lan.
I have tried the -h for help and it didn't work.
On the other machines password is required .
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From: nlucent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Open Source
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:11:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Chad Lavy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to understand Open Source Licensing a little better. I
have a
> client who would like to use Linux as a core operating system for
> development of a new product, but is shying away because they feel
that they
> might get roped into giving away their source. In my gut I don't feel
that
> this could possibly be true, but I don't have any way to prove it to
them.
> I mean Oracle, Sybase and a hundred other closed source companies are
> compiling against Linux. Where is the boundary between being closed
source
> and being obligated to opening your software? Can one use open source
> libraries and compile into a closed source package? Is your software
> obligated to be open source just by compiling it against an open
source
> compiler?
>
> Is there a site somewhere that clearly lays out the guidelines in a
way that
> a non-lawyer can understand and use as binding proof to a business?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Chad
Open source is a pretty broad meaning because of the multiple licenses
available. The biggest that I know of are the gpl, the lgpl, the berkley
style, and the artistic. The gpl (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt)
as I understand it says, if you use any gpl code, then you
have to release your code gpl. For instance, you cant take the linux
kernel, modify it, and release it under a diff license. The lgpl
(http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lgpl.txt) generally covers libraries etc,
meaning you can link against them and still have closed source software.
The bsd license (http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/license.html for one
example) says that you can distribute and sell the software binary only,
but you have to give them credit for the parts you used. Unfortunately I
dont know anything about the artistic license, but if you search for it
at google or someplace you will find it. Let me reiterate that this is
just how I remember interpreting them, I havent read them in a while, so
you should definately have your legal dept. or whoever read them over
first, and not rely on me (as if you would =)
Nick
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From: nlucent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KOULES doesn't run from normal user - Cannot get I/O permissions.
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:34:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi there... it's me again after a long time without Linux, with some
> problems. When I run KOULES as root, everything's fine, but as a
normal
> user I get:
>
> Cannot get I/O permissions.
>
> anyone has a idea what it could be?
>
> Any help to this tiny problem appreciated,
>
> Tom Alsberg.
>
I assume your using the svga version (console, not X) The reason your
getting that is because you dont have the rights to access the hardware
directly as a normal user, but you do as root. You have a couple
options, you can A. setuid the koules binary, but thats a security risk
, or you could B. get Xkoules which doesnt require priveledges to run,
but it runs in X so it uses more resources etc, Or C. just run it as
root which if your going to do that you might as well setuid the
binary.(chmod +s /path/to/koules)
Nick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Tansley)
Subject: Re: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~<
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:03:17 GMT
Chris Kloiber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: > > >I keep getting a sig11 when trying to make bzImage for my 2.2.9 kernel.
: > > >Never completes the compile :(. I remember compiling kernels fine in
: > > >Redhat 5.2..
: > > >
: > > >I have a P-60 cpu.
: > >
: > > hi
: > > i see this error when my cpufan has an error or memory chip has an
: > > error
: > > mmb
:
: Sig 11 usually indicates bad RAM.
:
I was getting this error, and I assumed it was due to bad ram. But on a
hunch one day, I upped my CPU voltage from 2.2V to 2.3V. Now the kernel
compiles first time everytime. Give it a go.
--
Dave
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From: Daniel Kollar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape-Communicator >= 4.5x
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:24:42 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
since using netscape-communicator 4.5 (now 4.61) I have problems with
the address book. When composing a new email and opening the
address-book to get an email-address, netscape crashes when clicking on
the "To:" button in the address-book.
What's the problem? I even created a new address book from the scratch
with the actual netscape version. But the problem didn't solve.
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Student at University of Technology, Darmstadt, Germany
Studying electrical engineering, solid state electronics
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From: behapy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dns server responses late
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:41:27 +0900
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Hi,all
<p>I'm running on a test DNS server for intranet. There is something
<br>strange. When I request an URL like www.behapy.org that exists
<br>/var/named/named.zone, the name server reponses some late. When
I run
<br>nslookup www.behapy.org at Linux console, name server responses
<br>immidietly, but when I request the URL at a client browser which are
<br>both ie and mozilla, the name server responses late.
<p>And another thing, when I request non-existant url on my intranet like
<br>iii.uuuu.com, I guess the name server has to response immidietly that
<br>the URL I requested doesnot exist. But around 20 seconds later,
the
<br>name server responses the URL that I requested doesnot exists.
<p>I don't have /var/named/named.ca for intranet.
<p>many thanx,
<br>Jingun
<br>
<br>
<br> </html>
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From: Buday Gergely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.functional
Subject: Re: kernel mode programs (yes, this is on topic)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:50:54 +0200
On 16 Jun 1999, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Matt Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Craig Dickson wrote:
> >> FP doesn't necessarily involve GC. The ML Kit uses regional analysis of the
> >> code to infer at compile time when memory needs to be allocated and when it
> >> can safely be freed.
> >
> >That sounds very nice. But since ML is not pure, it's harder to verify
> >code safety.
The mentioned Proof-Carrying-Code (Necula, Lee) papers are talking about
checking _machine code_ safety. Experience says that the size of the proof is
within an order of magnitude in comparison to the size of the code itself.
And the checking of the proof - for small programs - takes tens of
milliseconds of time.
One application of it is, of course safe extension of a kernel, but another
one is the safe extension of a compiler.
> >Does laziness make the regional analysis more difficult?
>
> I don't have an answer for that one. It might.
Once this question was put to Mads Tofte, and he stated that the theory of
region analysis depends on the call-by-value nature of ML.
- Gergely
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Wickham)
Subject: Finding historically the number of seconds a user was logged in
Date: 17 Jun 1999 09:00:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
Does anyone know if the number of seconds that a login session lasted is
recorded anywhere. We want to be able to produce a monthly report which
shows every session that a user started and the number of seconds that the
session lasted. Similar to the last command, but unfortunately last only
records the number of minutes, which is a bit too imprecise for our purposes.
Incidentally the sessions we are trying to record
Can anyone give me some suggestions?
Regards
Paul Wickham
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From: nlucent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: capturing an image
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:18:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there an equivelant to Win9x capturing the image on the desktop?
> Windows used alt-print screen. Is there something I can use in linux
to
> do this?
> And if so, where would I paste this image???
>
> Thanks
>
>
I assume you mean take a screen shot, if so you can use xv, or gimp
(both are usually installed by default). it writes the image to a file
in your home directory.
Nick
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From: neuhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: can't connect to my isp using kppp
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:57:54 +0200
Melle wrote:
> Hi,
> i've got a problem with my RH5.2 distribution of linux! i configured kppp
> the way it was shown in several comp-magazines for logging in at my isp's
> server using PAP - but it doesn't work at all.
> the modem dials properly, but it fails to log in. my isp said that my login,
> password and servername should be added to the file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets,
> but i don't know how in detail. there are two lines of introduction: the
> format of an entry should be something like:
> client server secrets IP adresses
> but what does this mean? i'm not good in English at all (you may have
> noticed that already *grin*) since i'm from Germany, hmm.
> if you know the answer to my problem please mail me to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> thanx, Melle
Hi Melle
ich habe das gleiche Ptoblem gehabt mit SuSE Linux 6.1. Bei mir beendete sich
der "Hilfsprozess" nach dem anw�hlen des ISP. Manchmal ging es auch dann wieder
nicht usw. v�llig unvorhersehbar :-)
Es gibt eine Konfigurationsdatei unter deinem Homeverzeichnis
$HOME/.kde/share/config/kppprc.
In dieser Datei waren bei mir zwei Abschnitte
# KDE config file
name=
[Account0]
.
phonenumber=
.
.pppdTimeout=
[Account1]
.
phonenumber=123456
.
.pppdTimeout=30
unter Account0 ware bei mir keine g�ltigen Eintr�ge.
Darunter wiederholte sich alles, mit [Account1] aber mit den Eintr�gen, die ich
in den kppp-Einstellungen gemacht habe. Ich habe den gesammten Account0
gel�scht und nur noch die Eintr�ge des Account1 so belassen, diesen aber nach
Account0 umbenannt.
Danach m�ssen beim kppp-Aufruf noch einmal die Einstellungen kontrolliert
werden. Dann ging alles
Nach dem Updaten meines SuSE-Packetes vom SuSe-Server geht kppp jetzt
allerdings gar nicht mehr.
Schon beim anklicken erscheint die Meldung mit dem Hilfsprozess oder eine neue
Meldung sagt das kene Sperrdatei?? f�r das Modem erzeugt werden konnte. Seit
dem verwende ich das Programm wvdial (unter root.; eigentlich eine glatte 6).
Bin auch f�r weitere Tips dankbar
Tsch�ss Dirk
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From: Mark Howson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape + java = crash
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:13:13 +0100
Ryan wrote:
> I'm using Netscape Communicator with RedHat 6.0 on my box and it just dies
> anytime it has to view a Java applet. Is there any work-around for this? How
> about installing a Java VM? Anything would help. I want to view job listings
Common problem. To fix, add
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
(and, if you have the 100dpi fonts)
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
to the catalogue section of /etc/X11/fs/config
Then restart xfs with /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart
See Deja for more.
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph T. Adams)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: 17 Jun 1999 09:57:13 GMT
Chad Mulligan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: They achieved the 99.8% availability of the site, with a very heavy load.
:
: But you can draw your own conclusions.
I certainly will. :)
99.8% availability is abominable, even for a single machine.
That means most of a full day of downtime per calendar year (0.73 days
to be precise), and this could be all at once or (more likely) spread
over time. *Planned* downtime in that quantity may not be bad, but
unplanned downtime in any amount is simply not acceptable to those who
need to use the system during that downtime.
A busy, important, commercial Web site should have no single point of
failure and hence no downtime at all, and therefore 100.0000%
availability. Unplanned downtime should be measured in parts per
million (i.e., seconds per year). All unplanned downtime, no matter
how slight, should be diagnosed, and those responsible for repeated
incidents of the same kind should be directed toward a more suitable
career, one in which they are not grossly incompetent.
Maybe Microsoft's customers, who tend to be technically illiterate
anyway, are wowed by these kinds of stats. Professional Webmasters
are not. They know that even PC-class hardware can easily achieve
orders of magnitude better performance than this, although Microsoft's
site is big enough that it should be using better than PC-class
harware and operating systems, and would be both more reliable and
more cost-effective if it did.
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Jagdis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Bandwidth priority?
Date: 17 Jun 1999 09:18:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7k95j7$q8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In Linux, is there anyway to give "priority" to certain bandwidth
>streams? For example, on my system I have a RealAudio server that
>sometimes has its streams interrupted if one person happens to be
>FTPing at that time on my measly 128k ISDN line. I would like to give
>priority to RealAudio, and less priority to FTP. Is that possible?
It's possible. You need the "tc" program from the iproute2 package
from ftp.inr.ac.ru:/ip-routing/.
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: Linux systems- Poor security
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:36:37 +0100 (BST)
L J Bayuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sadly, you cannot win these fights. The "IT staff" usually has a vested
> interest in whatever they are promoting - maybe they just sent some people
> to "Microsoft Certified Training" - and news of a security problem on
> Linux is enough to convince them. I know of one case where the IT staff
> was convinced that having Linux on any PC on their LAN threatened
> the security of their Novell servers.
I had this problem while at U Sheffield. Prior to my arrival,
someone had tried to set up a linux box on their net and just
picked an IP number out of the air, which conflicted with
one somewhere in the US, causing the usual network problems.
On this basis UCS refused permision for me to run linux on
the uni network; despite the fact that the reason they knew
I wanted to was because I _asked_ them for the information
I needed to configure it for their network. I dont believe
they were MS fans, just thet they didn't want to deal with
yet another os (even though I wasn't asking them to).
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