Linux-Misc Digest #669, Volume #18 Sun, 17 Jan 99 21:13:08 EST
Contents:
How to use PPP with your ISP (Bill Unruh)
Re: Did Schmalensee write his written testimony? (John De Hoog)
Re: Debian 1.3 Includes Stupid "man" ??! (jamie)
Re: Can this modem be driven with Linux? (Troy Davidson)
Re: CTRL-ALT-DEL (Bill Unruh)
Video Resolutions RH Linux 5.2 i386 ("cd")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Alexander Viro)
Re: Share netscape 4.5 files between linux and nt4 (Hans Wolters)
Re: AutoPPP and pppd server (David Efflandt)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks (Gary Momarison)
Problem with Slackware 3.6? ("Vyacheslav V. Vasin")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jedi)
Re: * and dot files (Shaygetz)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Kernel Name (Troy Davidson)
Re: Multi booting (Gregory Leblanc)
StarDiv's StarOffice Freezes on Setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: How to use PPP with your ISP
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:26:04 GMT
Seeing all the questions re PPP here I decided to write the following
"recipie" for figuring out what your ISP wants. Please feel free to copy
it and use it. Please send me suggestions for improvements, and if there
are some ISPs which do not respond to the following steps (together with
suggested fixes if you know them)
How to hook up PPP "the long way"
(However it will give you more
control and knowledge to
debug problems)
W.G. Unruh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Initial Setup
These must be run while you are logged in as root.
Make sure that you know which port your modem is on. COM1 (serial port 1)
is /dev/ttyS0. COM2 is ttyS1. In the following I will assume /dev/ttyS1.
Change for your situation.
In order that you can get the debugging infomation from the chat script, do the
following:
edit /etc/syslog.conf and add the line
local2.* /var/log/messages
^^^^^^^^^^^ these are all tabs not spaces
then do
killall -1 syslogd
In order that once you are connected, you are able to actually resolve host
names,
edit /etc/resolv.conf and add a line (or lines) like
nameserver 111.222.333.444
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Use the Name server IP address which your ISP gave
you. If they gave you two of them enter another line with the
second
Edit /etc/hosts.conf and make sure the line
order hosts, bind
is in there.
In order that you not have any conflicts between the routing across ppp and onto
some network you have, run
route
and look for a default entry. (default as the first entry). Unless you have a
hookup to the internet via an ethernet connection, you do not want such a
default route The only thing there should be a route to 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.0.0
For most situations there will be no default route there.
If there is, and you want the ppp interface to be your default route, (the usual
situation), run
route -del default
Now check to see if the module support for ppp is set up properly. run
/usr/sbin/pppd
You should get a line of garbage which repeats about 10 times and then the
command exits. This is good.
If you get permission denied, you are not running as root.
If you get a message saying that your kernel does not support ppp, you are not
running kerneld
On redhat, run
/etc/rc.d/init.d/kerneld start
or even just
/sbin/kerneld
[ If kerneld was not running, Also make sure that there are lines like
S01kerneld as links to /etc/rc.d/init.d/kerneld in each of
the directories /etc/rc.d/rc1.d to /etc/rc.d/rc5.d in RedHat or whatever is
needed to make sure that kerneld is started up at bootup on other systems]
Edit /etc/ppp/options and insert the lines
debug
crtscts
defaultroute
[note that if you, in the unlikely situation that you already have a working
default route to an ethernet, omit the defaultroute option]
================================================
Figuring out what your ISP wants to log you on
Unfortunately there is no one procedure for logging on to an ISP. Each one uses
some slightly different procedure. The following is a procedure to go through
the various possibilities to see what the ISP want.
First run
/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 57600 connect chat -v '' ATD5555555 CONNECT ''
This will not work, but it should dial your phone, where 5555555 is to be
replaced by your ISP's phone number.
[ If it does not dial your
phone, then you will have to figure out on which port your modem is on, and
perhaps send your modem some init string. For example to tell most modems to
reset themselves to factory default, do the following
/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 57600 connect " chat -v '' AT&F0 OK ATD5555555 CONNECT ''"
instead. You can add anything else you need to send to the modem either instead
of the &F0 or after it. If you have a "winmodem" you will never be
able to use it under Linux. Buy a better modem.]
I will assume that this dialed your phone. This will NOT connect you to your ISP
via ppp unless your ISP is incompetent (there is as yet no authentication).
What we have to determine is what kind of authentication your ISP wants.
Look at the end of /var/log/messages (eg do
less /var/log/messages
To page back, use ^B (control B) The space bar will page forward)
You should see a bunch of messages from chat, telling you what it sends
and what it receives from the far end. (In this case it will end when chat
receives the CONNECT string from your modem)
Then pppd will start reporting, and will probably give some error message like
Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
This means that your ISP was not expecting you to negotiate ppp at this point.
It probably means that it wants your end to log on first.
Alternatively, One of the lines had something in it that looked like
<auth pap>
This means that they are ready to negotiate ppp and want to use pap
authorization, not login authorization. Go down below to the PAP authorization
section.
So. let us assume that they want login authorization.
Now try
/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 57600 connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v '' ATD5555555 CONNECT ''
ogin <yourusername> assword <yourpassword>"
where <yourusername> is your user name on the remote machine, and similarly for
<yourpassword>
Again look in /var/log/messages.
You should see chat logging you in. If not, look at what chat received from the
far end to get a clue as to what they expected. Check to make sure
that you have the right password and username for the remote system.
If it logged you in but again you got a message saying the 7 bit is
all zero, your ISP is expecting something else from you , like a ppp
or a pppd command. Insert a
'' ppp
or
'' pppd
at the end of the chat string.
You may well now be connected by ppp. Type route, and look for a
default option on the ppp0 link (ppp0 is the last item in the line,
and default is the first). If so, success, you are connected.
So, you now have the far end at least negotiating ppp.
Your /var/log/messages file should now have lines which read
sent [LCP ConfReq ...
rcvd [LCP ConfAck ...
If you are lucky that is it. pppd will also report your local and the remote IP
addresses, and you are connected.
PAP
Let me assume that in one of the various lines in /var/log/messages,
there was the phrase <auth pap>. This means that the remote system
wants to use PAP authentication. (Similarly with an <auth chap> line).
You now need to make sure that the remote system gets the proper
PAP/CHAP authentication. There are two steps here.
i) Edit the file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
You will add a line to this file The first entry in the line
is your user name on the remote system. The second is a *.
The third is your password and the fourth can
also be a *. Thus there will be a line like
<yourusername> * <yourpassword> *
The second star may have to be replaced by the name of
the remote system if your ISP told you to do so. The last star may have
to be removed. But this should work.
ii) You also have to insert another option for the ppp command, namely
the "user" option, to let the remote machine know what your user name
is for PAP authentication.
So now try
usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 57600 user <yourusername> connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v
<chatstring>"
where <chatstring> is whichever chat string
successfully got you to this point.
At this point you should be connected. You should see lines like
Jan 16 14:54:50 wormhole pppd[905]: local IP address 137.82.66.22
Jan 16 14:54:50 wormhole pppd[905]: remote IP address 137.82.47.122
in /var/log/messages.
ppp is now connected.
You can automate this by writing a script like
ppp-on
containing
#!/bin/bash
/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 57600 user <yourusername> connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v
<chatstring>"
(where this line is whatever actually managed to get you connected.)
, and set the file to be executable and put it into
some directory on your path
chmod a+rx ppp-on
Then when you want to connect, just run this file
ppp-on
Note: At this point you may wish to remove the line
starting with local2.*
from /etc/syslog.conf in order that chat not repeatedly send
long messages filling up /var/log/messages.
Reinsert it when you again want to debug connection problems.
===========================================
USER use
You probably do not want to always connect as root.
Just make sure that the ppp-on file
is rx permission for users (chmod a+rx ppp-on),
and that /usr/sbin/pppd is setuid for root
chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd
The biggest problem with this is that you are unable to kill pppd and
close the connection without logging in as root. This is a pain.
One way is to copy the following to a file
called pppoff.c, and then, while logged in as root do
gcc -o pppoff pppoff.c
chmod a+x pppoff
chmod +s pppoff
When you want to terminate the connection, just run pppoff. This program
is an suid root wrapper for the killall command. Since the pppd program
is owned by root, a user cannot kill it. Note that this file will allow
any user to kill a running pppd, even if they did not start it.
If you have users like that, you have deeper problems than this note is
liable to solve, and you probably already have the expertise to solve the
problem yourself.
pppoff.c
#include <linux/signal.h>
#include <sys/param.h>
#include <pwd.h>
static char *trusted_env[]={"PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin",0};
main()
{
struct passwd *pwd;
int i;
uid_t uid;
for (i=0;i<NSIG;i++){ if(i!= SIGKILL && i!=SIGCHLD)
{(void) signal(i,SIG_IGN);}
}
uid=getuid();
if ( (pwd = getpwuid(uid))== (struct passwd *)0 )
exit(1);
setuid((uid_t)0);
execle("/usr/bin/killall","/usr/bin/killall","pppd",(char *)0,trusted_env);
setuid(uid);
exit(1);
}
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John De Hoog)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Did Schmalensee write his written testimony?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:33:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said,
> Is it possible by the comparison of the styles of all involved ( Murray,
>Neukom etc....) to detect if the Written testimony was written by one of
>them or by Schmalensee?
>
> Any opinions?
No, but I have a question. What does this have to do with Linux?
--
John De Hoog
http://washi.nu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jamie)
Subject: Re: Debian 1.3 Includes Stupid "man" ??!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:09:32 -0600
Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tetchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I have Debian 1.3 installed on i386, and have been wondering why the supplied
>: "man" program is so stupid as to refuse to go back one screen using "b" (it
>: just beeps at me).
find your man.conf file and change the PAGER from more to less.
It may be in /usr/share/misc/man.conf, I believe in some versions
it's in /usr/lib/man.config
(knowing I would never remember that location, I moved it to /etc
and put a symlink to it in /usr/share/misc)
--
jamie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"There's a seeker born every minute."
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From: Troy Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can this modem be driven with Linux?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:43:59 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know if it would work with Win 95, but Win 98 has a utility called
System File Checker. It will allow you to install just one .dll and not have
to reinstall the whole thing.
Again, I don't know if it will work, or even available for Win 95, but I hope
it will help you out.
Richard Jones wrote:
> <snip>
>
> [1] \WINDOWS\TSAD.DLL, and if anyone knows how
> to recover this DLL without a complete reinstall,
> I would be eternally grateful ...
>
> --
> - Richard Jones. Linux contractor London and SE areas. -
> - Very boring homepage at: http://www.annexia.demon.co.uk/ -
> - You are currently the 1,991,243,100th visitor to this signature. -
> - Original message content Copyright (C) 1998 Richard Jones. -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: CTRL-ALT-DEL
Date: 18 Jan 1999 00:36:29 GMT
In <77tr2h$oc8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I understand that CTRL-ALT-DEL key combo reboots a Linux machine. Is this a
>good feature, and if not, can it be turned off (How?)
The link between CAD and shutdown is make in /etc/inittab On RH 5.1, the
following lines
# Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
You can change what init runs for CAD by sticking something else in
there.
>How else can you reset a workstation?
?? What do you mean "reset"?
You can shutdown by running /sbin/shutdown yourself (usually as root.)
Look in man shutdown
>Please post your replies, thank you.
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From: "cd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Video Resolutions RH Linux 5.2 i386
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:43:08 -0600
Is there a way to reset the video resolutions from X or console , without
re-installing the entire OS and apps ?
Is there a utility from the command line or shell ?
thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:38:20 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>all i want to ask about your message is, Is english your native language? and
>if so what sort of grades did you get in English?
All *I* want to ask you about *your* message:
a) would you fscking please trim the (idiotic) posting you quote?
b) would you be so kind to figure out that USENET doesn't end on US borders?
c) do your *really* feel that you have a duty to top any idiocy you see on
USENET?
Welcome to killfile (bob_or_how_the_fsck_he_wants_to_be_called is there too,
indeed).
*PLONK*
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip the original message]
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: Hans Wolters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: netscape.public.general
Subject: Re: Share netscape 4.5 files between linux and nt4
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:51:49 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:05:53 +1100, "Jesus M. Salvo Jr."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have netscape 4.5 installed both on nt4 and linux on a single machine.
> >I would like to be able to use netscape on either os and use and
> >maintain the same inbox, newsgroup settings, downloaded newsgroup
> >messages, bookmarks, etc.....
>
Sorry for responding a item later but my newsserver expired all a few
days ago.
When I installed netscape for Linux I just copied the mail files from
windows to the linux version. This worked well. Netscape Linux indexed
the files and I can even open my binairies. Like Eggert wrote it might
help if you make a link to them in the prefs.
Regards Hans
--
Java Search Engine Front End
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.linux.isp
Subject: Re: AutoPPP and pppd server
Date: 18 Jan 1999 01:12:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16 Jan 1999 22:11:27 GMT, Alan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've installed Redhat 5.1 for use as a small dialup PPP server. Dialout
>PPP works fine, but inbound /AutoPPP/ calls will not stay connected. A
>Win95/Win98 caller can connect and log in, but immediately gets the
>dreaded "cannot negotiate a set of protocols" message. An OS/2 dialer
>gets similar results without the message.
The problem is that the mgetty example uses '+pap' and 'man pppd' is
unclear on what a peer is. Your computer is attempting to authenticate
the other computer (hostname) instead of the user. Since there is no
pap-secret for that computer, (and Win isn't likely to answer it anyway)
it fails. Remove the '+pap' and the 'auth' and 'login' options
will still authenticate the user (instead of the host).
>On the dialer side, TCP/IP is the only protocol requested. On the Linux
>side, mgetty takes the call and PAP validates the user successfully, but
>then the caller drops the session almost immediately. The Linux box is a
>standalone, not networked to anything else currently.
What makes you think that pap is successful?
>/var/logs/messages isn't very revealing even with debug and kdebug 7. How
>can I determine what's going on here and why the negotiation fails?
Unfortunately RedHat does not set up any file for detailed debug info to
go (like Slackware does), so it vaporizes unless you set something up
yourself in /etc/syslog.conf. This would likely reveal why your
authentication is NOT successful (hostname instead of username).
This had me stumped for awhile, especially since my username and one of my
machines have the same name. I did not realize the Windows was refusing
to authenticate itself.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks
Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:19:03 -0800
"Elijah Kagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to find any information about benchmarks of Linux and FreeBSD.
> Does anyone know about some study on this subject?
There's a fair amount of benchmark info on this page; a few comparisons
are bound to be found. I remember one of the sites had results from
very many various computers and OSes.
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/benchmarks.html
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: "Vyacheslav V. Vasin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Problem with Slackware 3.6?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:11:12 +0300
Hello!
I installed Slackware 3.6 some days ago.
I have a problem with some of binaries from Slackware 3.4;(
For example. I try to compile this code (by cc name.c -o name):
=====================
#include <stdlib.h>
main()
{
ldiv_t y;
int i;
for (i=1;i<=1000;i++){
y=ldiv(150,100);
printf("%d %u %u \n",i,y.quot,y.rem);
}
}
=====================
When I run it, I receive:
50 1 50
50 50 50
150 1 50
-1073743048 1 50
I don't understand this result.
For this:
======================
#include <stdlib.h>
main()
{
static ldiv_t y;
static int i;
for (i=1;i<=1000;i++){
y=ldiv(150,100);
printf("%d %u %u \n",i,y.quot,y.rem);
}
}
======================
I receive:
1 1 50
2 1 50
......
310 1 50
EMT trap
Where is a problem?
My cc is link to gcc-2.7.2.3.
I relink my cc from gcc-2.7.2.3 to gcc-egcs-1.0.3 and recompile
program. All right. All work well.
Is this my problem, problem of libc.so.5.4.46 or problem Slackware
3.6 distribution?
Can anybody help me?
Sorry my bad english.
---
Vyacheslav V. Vasin | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: +7 (0912) 21-74-88
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:48:14 -0800
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:11:27 +0100, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:56:52 GMT...
>...and Jim G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Although Linux folks seem to think that they are the only experts around,
>> the folks at MS are no dummies.
>
>Amen to that, brother.
They're great at marketing and harrassement litigation.
Did you know that M$ tried to lock out all the other
'replacement manual' vendors by suing them all for
trademark infringement?
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: Shaygetz <"s m c q u a l e"@i x.n e t c o m.c o m>
Subject: Re: * and dot files
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:58:49 -0500
Pascal Rigaux wrote:
>
> I've looking around for a while for the best solution to
> get all the files, even the dot files.
>
> For eg: rm -rf /tmp/* to clean the tmp
> But it misses the dot files.
>
This is my solution. I created the following script, to be
executed by the superuser:
#!/bin/sh
#
# /root/bin/clean-tmp
#
rm -r /tmp
mkdir /tmp
chmod 777 /tmp
The chmod is a "best guess," but it seems to work fine (so
far). I use it now and then, not so often as to need to put
in root's crontab. The rather gratuitous dash in the filename
is deliberate, to ensure there is no accidental execution.
I didn't need such a script until I installed PostgreSQL (mostly
to learn SQL and Web database administration). PostgreSQL has
a "postmaster" daemon that leaves a lock-file in /tmp.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way of shutting
postmaster off, outside of doing <ps -ax | grep postmaster>,
and then executing <kill (postmaster pid)>. This leaves the
lock file in /tmp, which must be erased. As I am using
PostgreSQL on a standalone machine (ie, not on a constantly-
running SQL server), I rather wish the folks who create
PostgreSQL would give postmaster some kind of option that
would make it quit more cleanly (if such a thing is at all
possible -- I know squat about programming). But that is a
topic for another string.
Any observations about my clean-tmp script are certainly
welcome.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Seth McQuale --> "Shaygetz" To reply to to me directly, remove
the spaces in the "Reply to" email address in the header.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:09:39 GMT
In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Elijah Kagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
# Hi,
# I am trying to find any information about benchmarks of Linux and FreeBSD.
# Does anyone know about some study on this subject?
# I�ve spent a whole day searching various newsgroups and mailing list
# archives, but no luck there. All these long �FreeBSD vs Linux� debates do
# not seem to contain references to any published test results.
# Any information on the subject will be highly appreciated.
Take a look at /usr/ports/benchmarks on your FreeBSD machine. You'll find
a couple of them there...
However, a word of personal opinion: I don't believe in such micro-benchmarks,
because they try to measure certain synthetic aspects of an OS, while what
really counts IMHO is how well the system behaves for your specific task.
You can see for yourself (Yahoo, www.cdrom.com) how well FreeBSD behaves
as an Internet server.
--
Andrzej Bialecki
==================== ++=======++ =====================================
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see:
Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD"
Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/
==================== ~=+=====+=+ =====================================
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From: Troy Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Name
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:40:18 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am setting up LOADLIN and I need to make a copy of my kernel to put on
my DOS partition. I am wondering, how do I figure out what kernel I
have? I am using RH 5.2 if that helps out.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Leblanc)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Multi booting
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:43:39 GMT
Just a couple more questions, Mal. See quoted text..
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:39:00 +0800, "Mal Thomas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dunno about NT but I just went through the exact same exercise with 2
>copies of Win95 and Linux (Redhat 5.0).
>
>1. I used Partition Magic to resize my 2 Win95 partitions to give me about
>250 mb free space on the drive. So after this process I had two Win95
>partitions, a freespace of 250mb and the BootManager partition of 2mb.
>
>2. Don't format this free space in anyway.
Was this space listed as unpartitioned space in Partition Magic?
>
>3. Proceed with the install as per LINUX install instructions. Linux will
>install the Native and Swap partitions into the free space you had left on
>your drive.
>
>4. Continue as per the Linux install process . When you get to the part
>where you need to install LILO, choose the MBR or Master Boot Record of
>your harddrive, NOT the 'First sector of the Boot partition'. I tried this
>and it didn't work as described in the manual. Why ? I don't know.
>Installing LILO into the MBR did work.
>
>The LINUX install process then asks you for the name of the other partitions
>that you want to add to the LILO 'menu'. You can also add the BootManager
>partition to LILO.
>
>When you boot your machine LINUX/LILO will boot and give you a prompt
>
>LILO:
>
>If you then hit the TAB key you should see a line that looks like this:
>
>LILO: linux Win95 (or whatever you called your partitions
>in step 4 above)
>
>just type the name of the OS you want to boot.
>
>Mine looks like this: LILO: linux Win95 Win95Office2000 BootManager
>.
>So if I want to boot Windows 95 I type Win95 and hit enter, Windows 95
>then boots. If you want to boot to linux just type linux or wait 30 secs or
>so, linux seems to be the default (on my machine anyway). If I type
>BootManager at the LILO prompt, BootManager boots and give you the familiar
>blue menu containing the OS's defined in the primary partitions as before.
>LINUX will not be on it tho. I tried this before too, but LINUX, as far
>as DOS and Partition Magic is concerned is installed into a DOS extended
>partition which you can't add to the BootManager menu.
What version of the Partition Magic boot manager are you using? The
only reason I can see to leave it installed is because it can hide my
NTFS partition when I boot into 98 so that my drive letters don't go
awry.
Thanks again,
Greg.
>
>NOW THIS IS THE PROCESS USING REDHAT LINUX 5.0 FROM THE 'TEACH YOURSELF
>LINUX IN 24 HOURS BOOK' FROM SAMS PUBLISHING.
>
>You may need to adapt your actual installation process to suit the flavour
>of the LINUX you are installing.
>
>
>Anyway I hope it helps some.
>
>Cheers
>Mal (another LINUX newbie)
>
>
>
>
Greg Leblanc
Network Admin
Concordia University Portland
gleblanc at cu-portland.edu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: StarDiv's StarOffice Freezes on Setup
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:21:29 GMT
I'm trying to install Star Office under RedHat 5.1 without any success.
I've downloaded and uncompressed the program, but when I go to run setup it
freezes on the very first screen before anything has appeared. It freezes so
much that I actually have to hard-reboot the machine.
I've tried the install under the admin account as well as my normal user
account with and both had the same effect.
Suggestions?
Jordan
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