Linux-Misc Digest #671, Volume #20               Thu, 17 Jun 99 10:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  Re: vfat question (Vic Mortelmans)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Jon Skeet)
  Re: SUID programs: are they normal? (Ralf Hildebrandt)
  Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
  Changing domain name of a machine (Parabola)
  Re: Snapshot ? (Pierre Daeubner)
  ftape fails on SuSE 6.1 (2.2.7 kernel) (Allen Ashley)
  Re: Linux systems- Poor security (Klaas Barends)
  Re: How to reset modem after system crash? (David Guertin)
  Re: making linux go away ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RH6.0 Network Failure.... (Evhen Loj)
  Re: No .bash_profile settings on startup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux systems- Poor security (Klaas Barends)
  Re: How to make a boot or rescue disk with new kernel version? (jik-)
  Re: Floppies for Installing (jik-)
  Re: linux standard base going too slow? (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: TERM problem ("Shaun Beech")
  Where is the COLA archived? (Ralph Blach)
  I am looking for "Cleanweap" under linux? (James Chang)
  Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition (Walt Shekrota)

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From: Vic Mortelmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vfat question
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:00:30 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Charles Wilkins wrote:
> 
> How do you do a change directory to a vfat directory that has a space
> in it.
> 
> I do a ls -l and get a directory such as My documents.
> then I do a cd My Documents and get an error.

I would suggest putting the directory name in ""

cd "My Documents"

-- 

Groeten,

Vic

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:43:20 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>       Obviously, since you don't seem to have any problem
>       with the fundementally anti-democratic notion that
>       the general population can't be trusted. 

>      Today the gun, tomorrow the ballot box.

Why is that a fundamentally anti-democratic notion? There are always 
areas where the general population is regarded as untrustworthy, 
otherwise there'd be no laws anyway. If we were all trustworthy, there'd 
be no need for any law enforcement...

The situation just happens to be that the US trusts its general 
population with guns and most other countries don't. Does the US not 
trusting civilians with nuclear weapons mean that democracy is dying?

Complete trust isn't democracy - it's anarchy.
 
>      It's the same justification either way. Logic good
>       for one is just as good for the other.

And where do the US encryption laws fit into this?

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf Hildebrandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: SUID programs: are they normal?
Date: 17 Jun 1999 12:27:45 GMT

On 16 Jun 1999 20:46:01 GMT, Mike Khalili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>/usr/sbin/sendmail
>
>No.  Make it sgid mail (or another group, mail just seems logical).  Then
>make /var/spool/mqueue writable by group mail.

Or even better use Postfix (www.postfix.org) instead. It doesn't use even use setgid()

-- 
Ralf Hildebrandt   http://www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb   (0)531/391-3366
Institute for Steel-Structures, Technic. Univers. of Braunschweig, Germany
"Those who do not understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it -- badly." 
                                                          -- Henry Spencer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 17 Jun 1999 11:59:25 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ketil Z Malde  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) writes:
>> I'm being deliberately harsh to focus attention on a totally ignored
>> issue. 
>
>But the effect is that you turn focus away from the issues, and
>towards the your manner of expression.
>
>This is, I think, analogous to Goodwin's law.

The only other option is propaganda techniques. Would you rather those?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Parabola)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Changing domain name of a machine
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:52:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all!

I have a Linux web server hosting a few virtual domains.  If I want to
change the domain name of the box from "www.aaa.com" to "www.bbb.com"
when IP address stays the same (the box is the primary NS of both
aaa.com and bbb.com), what are the places where I have to make
changes?  I'm working on a check list:

- login prompt
- dns
- sendmail
- /etc/sysconfig/network

What else?  Anyone can help?

Cheers!
:Parabola
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Programming, as in formatting code and composing algorithm,
        is indeed an art by itself.
Hence, programmer can be considered as some kind of artist.
Too bad, artist generally are not paid well. =(
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
URL:       http://i.am/parabola/
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:21:37 +0000
From: Pierre Daeubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Snapshot ?

Hi!

Thats easy. If you have KDE 1.1 installed you can go to the Graphics
Submenue.
Here you see details and program names. Select the KSnapsot programm.
With KSnapshot you have a lot more functions than with PRINT!SCREEN.

You can edit if you want the hole Screen for Snapshot, if you want just
the Netscape Windows, or just the Window where=B4s the mouse into.

You can choose!

Have fun, =

but don=B4t work too often with KDE Programms. KSnapshot is just the
easiest to use. You can go aswell to freshmeat.net and search for
"normal" software.

Pierre Daeubner


Philippe Gerard wrote:
> =

> Hi,
> =

> I would like to take a snapshot from my screen under Linux, how Can I d=
o
> that?
> =

> Thanks
> =

> --
> /*******************************************************/
> /*                Philippe Gerard                      */
> /*(Work)            [EMAIL PROTECTED]           */
> /*******************************************************/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Subject: ftape fails on SuSE 6.1 (2.2.7 kernel)
Date: 17 Jun 1999 12:46:30 GMT

I recompiled the kernel enabling ftape QIC-80 support and
my system does not recognize any mt commands or direct operations
on /dev/rft0. The boot messages indicate that ftape is installed
and initialized, but I get the error message "Operation not
supported by device" when I try to access /dev/rft0.

I tried compiling the kernel with and without zftape and
the results were not changed.

Not a good sign about SuSE support: I registered my purchase
and sent this question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This morning I
got a message back that said my email was undeliverable
after four hours.


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From: Klaas Barends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux systems- Poor security
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:43:58 +0200


There is nothing a cracker would enjoy more then a canned setup. Then he
knows exactly where the holes are.
A canned security setup is just as bad as no security setup.

-- 
mvg. Klaas Barends
    http://bart.nl/~hapkido/

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From: David Guertin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to reset modem after system crash?
Date: 17 Jun 1999 08:44:08 -0400
Reply-To: David Guertin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Lanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Scott> # rm -f /var/run/ppp?.pid

    Scott> where '?' is probably 0.

Oh, yeah, I forgot that part; there's also no /var/run/ppp0.pid file.
In fact, there's no pppx.pid file anywhere.  Yet /dev/ttyS2 is still
reported as "busy".

Thanks for the suggestion, though!

Cheers,
-- 
Dave Guertin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: 15 Jun 1999 12:48:19 GMT

In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst John Sowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
eloquently scribe:
: I read the responses, just flames.  The problem is you are asking a valid
: question.  I also need to know how to remove Linux from a hard drive, as I
: am installing a new copy (caldera) and it doen't discuss in the newbie part
: about installing over an existing linux os.

: Can someone please take our requests seriously.

It should just be a matter of reformatting the partitions you're using for
linux and running the new setup program from boot-disk? or CDROM?..

If you were getting rid of it in order to reinstall windross, then you'd
have to just format the partitions used for linux, and in DOS type in 
fdisk /mbr (which would remove LILO from the master boot record.)
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From: Evhen Loj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.0 Network Failure....
Date: 17 Jun 1999 06:30:48 GMT


  Someone PLEASE HELP!!! 

    I've been trying to setup a web server utilizing Red Hat 6.0, Apache 
Web Server, and Real Audio Basic Server (libc version) for the last two 
weeks.  Unfortunately after about 20-30 minutes of not being accessed by 
anyone from the Net, I am unable to ping or gain access to any of my 
network services remotely (HTTP, FTP, or Telnet). If I attempt to ping from 
home, I get a request timed out. All network services work fine and can be 
accessed by people on the Net until that 30~ minutes elapse.  I can regain 
access if I stop and then start the network again, but for only 30 minutes. 
 Our 3COM 595 Tx appears to work fine and reports no errors when we run 
"ifconfig."  We even checked with Redhat support and they confirmed it is a 
"tier one" card.  The network setup was checked by a few Linux wizards and 
they said all looks good. 
   Nothing in the logs are recorded at the time we can't gain acces to the 
services.  People have checked them and couldn't find anything to indicate 
a problem. I've surfed the Net fine with the machine, getting out isn't the 
problem, it's getting in after a given amount of time. 
   We have disabled all APM services in the BIOS and removed the APM daemon 
from Linux.  There is nothing in the logs to indicated that HTTP, FTP, or 
Telnet are going down. In fact they are still up, but cannot be accessed.  
      
Our only log error is: 
  maul inetd[1769]: execv /usr/sbin/in.identd: No such file or directory 
  
 I'm running RH 6.0 on an Intel Celeron 400, w/128MB of Ram, 8.4G HD, and a 
3COM 595 Tx NIC.  It is a co-lo with on a T1 connection. Linux has been 
reinstalled a number of times with different setups (Custom, Server, etc) 
yet the same result.  The swap and other partitions are all fine.  We've 
changed the NIC card three times! I even reinstalled it without the Real 
Server installed and it still happens.   
    
   Any timely advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

   - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No .bash_profile settings on startup
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:48:43 GMT

Al,
        If I understand your question, you are asking why .bash_profile only
has a umask setting by default?
        The answer is that .bash_profile is used to supplement/override the
system-wide settings for bash, as specified in /etc/profile
(debian...don't know where other dists have this file). You *should* be
able to modify this file and effect system-wide changes. I usually just
edit the .bash_profile & .bashrc files, myself.
        Hope that answers your question.

Jim

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Al Spohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy -
> Why is it that I always have to do a source ~/.bash_profile for any of
> my settings to be in effect on login?  As far as I can determine my
> setup is pretty much vanilla, i.e., nothing fancy happening on startup
> other than the X stuff... and I' running kde for what it's worth.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al
> --
> Al Spohn
> Publishing and Media Technology Services
> Mayo Clinic 507-284-1666
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


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From: Klaas Barends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux systems- Poor security
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:42:01 +0200

> A while ago we had a security breach involving multiple linux boxes and
> as a consequence, our IT staff will probably be implementing a ban of
> the use of Linux!  I use Linux as a development workstation (although
> I'm not a UNIX expert) ... does anyone know why the security of Linux is
> so bad?  I assume that not all distributions are bad, but the ones with
> poor security give Linux a very bad name ... infact they give all free
> software a bad name .. I doubt if the IT staff will let me install
> FreeBSD instead of Linux.
> A very annoyed Tim (who will probably be forced to use Windows NT)

Linux security is indeed what YOU make of it. A out of the box
installation of
Redhat is a piece of cake for the average cracker. Redhat installed out
of the
box doesn't come with configured /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow
file (just
to give an example). I don't know about other distributions, but they
are probably
as unconfigured as Redhat is, because configuring your own system is
what Linux and
security is all about.
Every system has holes, a system is secure when the administrator knows
the holes so
he can keep an eye on them.

-- 
mvg. Klaas Barends
    http://bart.nl/~hapkido/

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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make a boot or rescue disk with new kernel version?
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 05:39:38 -0700

"Jung, SH" wrote:
> 
> I am using Redhat linux 6.0 with kernel 2.2.9 recomplied.
> i already made a booting disk, but i don't know how to make a boot disk or
> rescue disk with new kernel version.
> 
> anyone can help me?

There is a Bootdisk-HOWTO which explains this....when it starts talking
about setting the rdev word or whatever...ignore that and use the lilo
way.

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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Floppies for Installing
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 05:43:11 -0700

Louis Dupree wrote:
> 
> Can I get 3 1/2 floppies to install Lenux 5.2? I do not have a CD drive. If
> so, where? Thank you?

Your stuck with installing via FTP, HD, or installing Slackware pre 3.6
which came on lots of floppys....you will still have to downlod it, if
you can find it even.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: linux standard base going too slow?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:01:08 GMT

On 17 Jun 1999 10:45:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>I'm dissapointed _on all distributions_ because I think LSB must 
>be one of the highests priorities, LSB should be there some time ago 
>and even it seems that currently LSB is in it's early stages. There are only
>draft, also there is nothing about packaging...

Have you considered creating a validation tool to verify that either:
a) A package, or
b) A whole distribution
satisfies the rules of the LSB?

The only practical way to have the LSB lead towards actual results is
to have a way of validating that a particular distribution conforms,
and only by using automated tools will it be practical to maintain that
conformance.

If you write a program, let's say in Perl, that validates the contents of
RPM or dpkg packages against the LSB rules, this will allow reporting what
packages need to be *FIXED.*  That will go further towards establishing
conformance than anything else.

-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.  
-- Henry Spencer          <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."

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From: "Shaun Beech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TERM problem
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:22:07 +0200

try export TERM=vt100
or TERM=vt100;export TERM then run pine

vineet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7kappo$9uj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> When I want to start pine or top it gives the error " terminal type linux
> is unknown"
>
> But these programs are working properly in kde.
>
> echo $TERM in chracter terminal gives "linux"
> echo $TERM in X windows gives "xterm"
>
> TIA
>
> Vineet
>
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From: Ralph Blach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where is the COLA archived?
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:06:16 -0400

Where is the cola archived?

I cant seem to find the link

Chip

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From: James Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I am looking for "Cleanweap" under linux?
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:15:03 +0800

Hi there

Could anybody tell me how to uninstall application which has been
installed by using source compiling?

Thanks in advance




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From: Walt Shekrota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parition Magic 4.01 obliterated my ext2 partition
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:34:42 GMT

This is what I have heard. PM has always worked for me too but based on
recent reports, I refuse to use it anymore.

to original poster:
If you had an 800m block and it was in a separate partition which I 
assume you were trying to merge, it would have been safer to mount it in the 
fstab to a strategic mount point. You'd still be running and have the
space available from that point down. If it was freespace you were 
merging, you shot yourself unecessarilly.

And all this talk of 'backing up' so you can use PM! If you're going to the   
trouble of backing up the system then why use PM at all. Just restore 
to a reformatted space.

-Walt


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