Linux-Misc Digest #726, Volume #20               Mon, 21 Jun 99 16:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (Mike Bartman)
  kernel 2.3.6 - memory allocation errors? (Christian Huebner)
  Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks ("OMI User")
  Re: vi question (Steffan O'Sullivan)
  Re: kill not kill (Bill Unruh)
  Re: firewall login ("David Means")
  GDM was murdered mysteriously - how do I fix it? ("Steve Hiner")
  Re: The best IRC and ICQ applications for Linux? (Glen Batchelor)
  Re: printing ps files on Linux (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Very,very slow KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Phonewire networking? (Grand Poobah of PRAM)
  Re: nanosleep() ?? (Fernando Mato Mira)
  Re: modprobe: can't locate char-major-4 what did i do wrong (Stewart Honsberger)
  "MS Network Neighborhood" for unix (Chad Spencer)
  FWD:Linux alliance fights against Euro software patents (Alex Lam)
  Re: Samba and Window 9.x/NT ("Kerry J. Cox")
  Re: Commercially speaking....? (Stuart Brady)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Bartman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:21:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 19 Jun 1999 19:26:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim
McCusker) wrote:

>Mike Bartman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>: If anyone knows of a good use/home for a full Atari-800 computer
>: system in working order, with full docs (including an OS source
>
>If you want to bother to ship it to the Smithsonian, the American History
>Museum has what is shaping up to be an excellent collection of first and
>second generation personal computers. I'd send them a letter first, though.
>They aven have an original wooden-box apple I...

Since they're only about 10 miles from here, shipping isn't a problem!
I'll contact them and see if they are interested.  Thanks!

-- Mike "it's worth more as a tax writeoff than a paperweight" Bartman
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From: Christian Huebner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel 2.3.6 - memory allocation errors?
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:17:50 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I have been experiencing problems with kernel 2.3.6 in the
form of memory allocation errors while loading the shared
libraries. 

I will try to find the problem by myself, but I would like
to know whether someone else has experienced the same errors.

Rgds

Chris

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From: "OMI User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:30:59 -0400


Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mike Bartman wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > there they asked if he wanted to do the OS too.  He said he knew
> > nothing about writing an OS (the truth, as history records...;^), but
> > they said they had lots of folks who did, and they'd help him get
> > started.  Then he remembered a local guy who'd done his own port of
> > CP/M to the 8086 chip.  I forget the guy, but seem to recall the name
> > "Seattle Computers" vaguely in relation to this...it's been a while!
> > :^).  Anyway, Billy calls him up and asks if he'd be interested in
> > selling his CP/M port for the 8086...the guy (knowing nothing about
> > IBM's interest) says he guesses so, how much?  Bill offers him about
> > $50,000, and the rest is history.
>
> His first name was Tim and I seem to recall his last name was Paterson.
> I believe his product was called Seattle DOS, and it was essentially an
> 8086 clone of CP/M. For years folks at MS used to talk about Timcode --
> bits of assembly language code in the original DOS that none of them
> knew what it did. It wasn't until DOS 5 or 6 that all the Timcode was
> removed.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gene Wilburn, Northern Journey Online, http://www.interlog.com/~njo
> -------------------------------------------------------------------

QDOS for Quick and Dirty Operating System. Bill dropped the Q and decided D
should stand for Disk.
The guy that wrote it was a compitent hobbist like 90% of them in those
days.
After the PC came out with DOS, QDOS was marketed by Tim Paterson  (I have
to take your word on the guy's name) for a while. Bill just bought the
original code, Patterson could still sell his version(s) of the software. Of
course it completely dropped off the radar around DOS v2.0 or so, as much as
it ever was on it. Like always its hard to compete with a bundled
hardware/software combo and Microsoft had that wrapped up.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffan O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: vi question
Date: 21 Jun 1999 14:59:09 -0400

Nick Taylor  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How do I change the default tab size to 4?

:set tabstop=4

If you want it to be the default always, edit your .exrc file to read:

set tabstop=4

In general, vi questions are probably better posted to comp.editors.
Check :set all to see all of the things you can set with the :set
command.

-- 
 -Steffan O'Sullivan  |     "But it was too late.  They all
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]     |      had put mud in their ears
   Chapel Hill, NC    |      not to listen to me."
    www.io.com/~sos   |                   -Jacob Nibenegenesabe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: kill not kill
Date: 21 Jun 1999 18:46:59 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZioBudda 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hi, I'm making a new php3-admin program. In a module of this program I
>must to exec some root's program like kill or addpassword. Now my problem
>is: kill not kill the proces. 

Kill will not kill any process which is not owned by the user of kill.
It does not impliment the suid (ie does not change to root uid even if
suid is set) so setting the suid bit is useless.
You can either log on as root, or you can have the user run sudo. But
why in the world would you wnat to give users the ability to kill any
and all processes on the system. That seems like a recipie for disaster.
I think you need to rethink what you are trying to do!


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From: "David Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: firewall login
Date: 15 Jun 1999 16:17:22 GMT


Jeremy Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am trying to figure out how to login to the firewall and then and only
> then allow access to other computers and services on the network.  I
> also want this to occure when a person tries to login using telnet and
> ftp.  With telnet and ftp I want to be able to conferm access to the
> network before the usual telnet and ftp login occures.
>
> Is there any program, freeware, or setup in either Redhat 6.0 or Socks5
> that are able to do this.

  The most direct way to do this is to establish accounts on the firewall
machine (or you can use NIS to keep the actual data somewhere else),
and allow telnet and ftp only to that machine, not through it.  This will
insure that any session that originates outside your firewall is validated
before it is given access to any internal stuff. However, this can be fairly
awkward for your users, depending on what services they want to gain
access to on your internal network, so you should work through the
scenarios with some of them before following this course.



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From: "Steve Hiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,redhat.x.general
Subject: GDM was murdered mysteriously - how do I fix it?
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:33:57 -0700

I have a RedHat 6.0 system at home that boots straight into X and last night
when I booted it up the first time it took a LONG time get me to the GNOME
desktop.  When I tried to shut it down it didn't do anything - after several
tries I used CTRL-ALT-BKSP to restart X.  Then it let me shut it down.

When I rebooted I got an error message at the login prompt (the text one
that flashes up on screen before X starts up) that said something indicating
that due to /var/run/gdm.pid the system thinks that gdm was already running
but had been "murdered mysteriously."  (Sorry I don't remember the exact
error message but it was at around 1:30 this morning)  If I hit enter it
will give me a text based login prompt where I can log in normally.  When I
try to start X after that it will sit there with a black screen for a while
then bail out to the command line where I can see that gdm tried to start a
whole bunch of times and kicked out a similar error message each time - all
of them about the gdm.pid file and gdm being murdered - each error message
has a different pid listed after it in ().

What might have caused this?  More importantly, how do I fix it?  When I go
look at /var/gdm.pid it contains a number which I would assume is the
process ID for the currently running instance of gdm (this is my first
experience with .pid files).

This error has rendered my system mostly useless since the error will pop up
over and over again (every minute or so) and must be getting dumped to stout
since I was running emacs and it would just cram the error message into
emacs where my cursor was resting.  Kinda hard to do any configuration
changes to try to fix it if emacs is going to randomly have extra text
dumped into it.

Any help, pointers, URLs or tips will be greatly appreciated.

Steve Hiner

P.S. Sorry about the cross-post but I wasn't sure if this was a problem with
X, with Red Hat or with Linux in general.  I would have posted to
linux.user.stupid if it was available since this could be user error.



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From: webmaster-nospam@allspec-d-o-t c-o-m (Glen Batchelor)
Subject: Re: The best IRC and ICQ applications for Linux?
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:44:25 GMT

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:11:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart
Honsberger) wrote:

>On 18 Jun 1999 04:46:40 GMT, Kenny Zhu wrote:
>>Hi I'm wondering what's the best IRC / ICQ applications for Linux (w/o KDE
>>GNOME). Please let me know. Thanks.
>
>For console mode;
>
>ICQ - micq (http://phantom.iquest.net/micq/)
>IRC - BitchX (http://bitchx.org)

  I tried BitchX for a while but got tired of it.

>
>For GUI;
>
>ICQ - Licq (http://licq.wibble.net)
>IRC - XChat (http://xchat.linuxpower.org)

  I downloaded the Java version of ICQ from their website. Works fine.

  I agree.. I've tried most of the X irc programs. XChat was the best
to me.

>
>None of these programs require KDE or GNOME.
>
>-- 
>Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
>Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: printing ps files on Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:29:32 GMT

On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:13:18 +0200, Thomas Freixanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>Hi ,
>
>Is it possible to print Postscript files on non Postscript printer on
>Linux ? I can do that on Windows using ghostview but the Linux version
>doesn't seem to have this feature.
>Thanks for your help.
>
Linux Ghostview does it as well.  I'm printing postscript files on both
my Epson LQ750 (dot matrix) and HP 660C (colour inkjet) printers through
Ghostview with no problems.


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Very,very slow KDE
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:52:24 GMT

I have a Compaq Pesario 5220 - 380Mhz AMD-K6 CPU, 64 meg RAM, Bigfoot 8
gig fixed disk, ATI 3D RAGE LT PRO videocard with 4MB memory and my KDE
1.1.1 is very slow too. So, I am not convinced (yet) that the problem
lies in hardware. Increasing hardware resources may only mask the
performance issue rather than address it. However, I cannot offer you a
clue what the solution is except for the fact that this Compaq has more
resources and KDE performance is no better than what you have
experienced. I emailed the KDE project today for any possible solutions
they may have to offer on this issue.

In article <7jgoov$21i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I have Pentium II Mendocino - 300Mhz, HD Quantum 6.4MB with Ultra DMA
> >33, 32MB SDRam, BX chipset, Rendition Verite 2200 videocard with 4MB
> >Ram. I use Mandrake Linux 5.3 and KDE. My swap partition is 100MB. My
> >KDE is so slow that sometimes I have to wait 15 sec just to open a
menu.
> >It seems that every time it needs something it searches the whole
disk
> >for it, and it does this in such a way that the whole computer
shakes. I
> >do not know what the problem is, and I would be very obligied to
anyone
> >who could help.
>
> You need more memory.  32M is about the minimum just for KDE, but is
> not enough when you start running large apps.
>
> -- Rod
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sunset Systems                           Preconfigured Linux Computers
> http://www.sunsetsystems.com/                      and Custom Software
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grand Poobah of PRAM)
Subject: Phonewire networking?
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:36:14 GMT


Recently there have been a few products released that let people do
home networks over phone lines.  Is there any infor out theree on
using these with Linux?  (Assuiming that drivers and such have been
created...) 

If anyone can point me to some documentation, I'd appreciate it.
-- 
"Somehow there's cosmic justice in the fact that movie makers can now spend
the gross national product of Romania on special effects and still wind
up with something that looks like a teenager's Web page."-Andrew O'Hehir

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:12:41 +0200
From: Fernando Mato Mira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc
Subject: Re: nanosleep() ??

For dozing off on SGI, nothing better than a little sginap() ..



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: modprobe: can't locate char-major-4 what did i do wrong
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:15:38 GMT

On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:45:52 GMT, Yorkshire wrote:

>i'm learning fast but i'm still pretty much a newbie at this stuff
>i get this message a load of times on startup now, since i made a
>2.2.10 kernel.

I had the same thing happen to me. char-major-4 is, AFAIK, a serial port
(COM2?). All it's telling you is that it can't locate that port.

In /etc you'll find a file called conf.modules - locate the line that says
char-major-4 and disable it (change the parameter to 'off').

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: Chad Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.samba,linux.redhat.misc,comp.protocols.smb,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: "MS Network Neighborhood" for unix
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:58:19 -0500

A recent tcl/tk program has been developed for unix systems that
acts much like Microsoft's Network Neighborhood. Its useful for
browsing college dorm networks (among other things). If you've
used Network Neiborhood in Windows, you know what it does.
Its been tested successfully on Linux and Ultrix, but will run on
any unix with samba and tcl/tk. It can be found at:
  http://www.public.iastate.edu/~chadspen/xsmbrowser-1.0.2.tar.gz
Enjoy!


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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FWD:Linux alliance fights against Euro software patents
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:47:18 -0700

==============FWD=================
Posted 21/06/99 2:03pm by John Lettice ,the Register, London, UK.

  Linux alliance fights against Euro software patents

  The EU's current plans to extend patent law to software has been
attacked by the
  EuroLinux Alliance, which points out that current European patent law
is already being
  abused by major companies. The net effect of the continuation of this
abuse, or of new
  laws applying patents to software, will be to make life practically
impossible for
  smaller software developers. 

  The subject is due to come up on Thursday at the Intellectual Property
Conference in
  Paris, where moving to a US-style patent model will be discussed.
According to the
  Alliance, although software isn't patentable in Europe under the
Munich Convention,
  the European Patent Office (EPO) has been granting patents which can
be used to
  protect programming techniques, computer programmes and software. This
is
  happening because of a loophole in the Munich Convention which allows
industrial
  inventions based on innovative programming techniques to be patented. 

  Says the Alliance: "Software Patents granted by the EPO to protect
programming
  techniques were very few ten years ago and were mainly used by large
industrial
  corporations to protect, for example, computerised oil exploration
techniques." But in
  the intervening period the EPO has come under increasing pressure from
companies
  trying to patent what they can already patent in the US, where
anything "useful and non
  obvious" can be patented. A recent IBM application shows that "the EPO
is now used
  to grant patents on extremely elementary, if not obvious, programming
techniques." 

  The EU is currently considering removing computer programs from the
exceptions list
  of the Munich Convention, and this would effectively open the
floodgates. "It would be
  possible to use patents to get a monopoly on the use of a business
method or an
  electronic commerce method by patenting as such its implementation in
a program for
  computers," says the Alliance, which has assembled a group of ten
industry
  luminaries, including Tim Berners-Lee, to lobby against the change. It
is also now
  possible to sign a letter to the EU Competition Commissioner, opposing
software
  patents here: 
http://swpat.ffii.org/miert/indexen.html
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba and Window 9.x/NT
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:03:07 +0000

Matthew,
I had a similar problem.  Maybe this page will help.
    http://network.fament.com/helmig/j_helmig/w98samba.htm
Hope that works for you.  It worked for me.
KJ



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Matthew D. Melbert wrote:

> I'm having problems with the connection between one computer using Windows
> based OS and the other using Linux.  I have enabled encryption password and
> sharing.  I can log on to the Windows base computers from the Linux box,
> but I can only bring up the user directory in the Windows based computers.
> Wonder how to resolve the problem:)
> --
> Matthew D. Melbert
>
> ************************************
> Intern
> System Developement Group
> ***********************************




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From: Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:58:23 +0100

On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Richard Corfield wrote:
>Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Xfree86 does not do sound. 

>I think it would be nice if it did (beyond the system beep which it
>does). To have network transparent sound as an extension to X would
>mean not having to play with things like rplay and esound. It would
>also mean that bandwidth goes through the floor but oh well.

Well... it would be quite possible to have a $XSOUND variable, which
could be used to transmit sound over another network protocol or file
system. I'm not sure that the sound itself belongs in X, though. Maybe
an event based sound system?

What I actually meant, was that Xfree86 doesn't contain sound drivers,
which is a good thing, because sound can be used by the command line. I
sometimes wonder whether X should be doing the graphics itself, or if
the LibGGI/Berlin approach makes more sense.

There's something I'm wondering, though -- How absolutely stupid would
it be to have a system where sound mixing is either done by modular
kernel drivers? It seems that every program contains its own mixing
code, and that other programs can't use sound at the same time.
-- 
Stuart Brady: stuart@wholehog .demon.co.uk

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