Linux-Misc Digest #906, Volume #20 Sat, 3 Jul 99 17:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Weird kernel problem (Ilia Mirkin)
Save your printing money ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop? ("Michael Smith")
Accessing dos files from Linux. (Julian Evans)
TV on Linux - Modular MM205 card (Len Cuff)
script breaks: how compatible bash is with sh/ksh (Farid Hamjavar)
Re: info please (Gerald Willmann)
Re: first/second/third world (Peter Seebach)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Anthony Ord)
Re: Beating MS and a manifestation of tradition. (Don't Harvest This Address -->)
Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop? (Adrian Hands)
Re: Accessing dos files from Linux. (Thomas Ruedas)
Re: Please Help Resolution Change In KDE ("Buhrer")
seg fault running RealPlayer G2 (Ronald Haynes)
Re: Where can I get free Linux CD? (John Thompson)
Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (Adrian Hands)
Re: Accessing dos files from Linux. (William Burrow)
Re: Mr. Kulisz wisdom ( is there any? ) (Deep_Blue)
Re: Weird kernel problem (David Greer)
How do I tell "man" or "emacs" to use full telnet window? (David)
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From: Ilia Mirkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Weird kernel problem
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:13:30 GMT
I have compiled kernel 2.2.10 and put it over my RH-compiled 2.2.5-22. I
copied vmlinux, bzImage, and System.map to /boot and redid the symlinks.
Now, when I with the new kernel, it works fine, but when I leave it
turned on for a long time, it "turns off," meaning the computer doesn't
respond and the HD light is on, but no HD activity. This has also
happened with every kernel I have compiled that was above 2.2. I am not
sure if this has to do with my hardware, or with my choosing wrong
options. I have a PCI S3 Virge video card, an old ISA sound card (I am
using the ad1848 and opl3 modules). I also have an external modem.
Could anyone give me some suggestions or send me their .config file?
Thanks in advance,
Ilia Mirkin
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From: "Michael Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop?
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 14:01:11 -0400
I'm running RedHat 6.0 on my Inspiron 7000 (ATI Rage video 8mb; 15" LCD;
etc). X works great without down-grading the BIOS (I had to enable frame
buffering). An excellent resource is the [Linux Inspiron] mail list, and
associated web sites. http://inspiron.ntsj.com/ (the web page refers to
Insp.3500, but the list deals w/ all models).
// Michael
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From: Julian Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Accessing dos files from Linux.
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:04:46 -0700
I have LILO set up to boot dos and linux and it works great. I was wondering
how i can get to my dos files from linux, if that is possible. I primarily
need to move stuff from my linux partition to my dos partition. I am using Red
Hat Linux 6.0.
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TV on Linux - Modular MM205 card
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:45:45 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi,
I'm trying to get a Modular MM205 card to work under Linux.
I've got Kwintv and it works but not correctly ! I have to set it to
NTSC before I see any picture and then it only tunes a few cable
channels and no terrestrial channels. Anyone got this combo to work ??
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farid Hamjavar)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: script breaks: how compatible bash is with sh/ksh
Date: 3 Jul 1999 12:24:25 -0600
reposting.
I think I made a mistake in posting and this never got to
two linux newsgroups I intended to post.
Farid
_________________________________________________
Greetings,
As linux does not have sh or ksh,
(and I don't plan on compiling/using pdksh)
I have a few ksh script that broke when I ran
them under bash (ver 2.02.1) on linux.
In particular "if [[ .... ]] " and "print"
were the things it was complaining about.
bash man page says:
"... Bash also incorporates useful
features from the Korn and C shells (ksh and csh). "
So, should I remedy those by changing "print" to "echo"
and "[[" to "[" ..... What other options do I have?
Thanks,
Farid
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: info please
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 09:55:17 -0700
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Tom wrote:
> need some info 'how to' for linux installation of modems, sound cards, etc
> Just installed linux SUSE 6.1, looks very cool, but can't go very far with
> it. Where do I find info about the above? thanks, Tom
go to http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ , the linux documentation project
there you'll find all the howtos and they should help you.
Gerald
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 19:02:45 GMT
In article <7lkri1$3hv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Oh, pulease! Demonization-reeducation is a standard pattern used by
>everyone, *especially* right-wingers.
"*especially* right-wingers" is your demonization/reeducation speaking.
You've admitted that "everyone" does it - presumably including your side.
(And actually, no, not *everyone* does. Just lots of people. There are
groups that are able to make progress without it.)
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 16:40:17 GMT
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:25:38 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Bob Taylor") wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> De Messemaeker Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Chad Mulligan wrote:
>>
>>> >And how do you know this actually happened? Were you present? You read
>>> >it in a book written by an American hater? On behalf of the Americans
>>> >who died saving your sorry ass in WWII, I *demand* a retraction and
>>> >appology for such a vicious attack!
>>>
>>> I would have to agree with Mr taylor on this one. The stories I've heard, some
>first
>>> hand from German POW's in the US, friends of my Granddad who was a Latvian pressed
>>> into German service, all said they were treated well and some even remained friends
>>> with their jailers.
>>
>> True, that happened. But it wasn't always like that. Here in Belgium, there was a
>> concentrationcamp named 'Breendonk'. When the americans arrived, they torchered the
>> germans. That's a historical fact. And there's a lot more. But what do we expect ?
>It was
>> war, with all pleasant and unpleasant stuff ... sort of ...
>
>If by "torchered"
Oh look! A spelling flame! Tell me Mr Taylor, how many
languages do you speak? I would rather he wrote imperfect
English than perfect French.
>you mean forced to tour the concentration camps, then
>I will agree.
So the guards who ran the concentration camp called
"Breendonk" would be tortured by being forced to tour
concentration camps? I would have thought it would become a
bit samey during the first tour, never mind the rest.
>Otherwise, this is another vicious attack with no
>foundation in truth. Historical fact my tired ass!
I constantly find it amazing that there is never any doubt
in some people's minds about anything. But don't worry, I'm
sure if you look hard in the Yellow Pages there will be
someone who reloads expended clue-sticks.
Regards
Anthony
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| And when our worlds |
| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: Don't Harvest This Address --> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Beating MS and a manifestation of tradition.
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:33:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Timothy Rue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 01-Jul-99 17:01:17 Don't Harvest This Address --> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> DHT> I hope there are a lot of contradictions between you and Jim Collas;
> DHT> the last thing we need at this point is for Amiga to take your
> DHT> half-baked advice and go with the VIC instead of proven solutions like
> DHT> Java or REBOL.
>
> You have proven yourself to be one that follows me around to dog me.
Amazing you should mention that. Just last night I was in the
check-out line at the grocery and guess what I see on the cover
of the new TV Guide? The Taco Bell dog!
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop?
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 14:29:52 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Smith wrote:
>
> I'm running RedHat 6.0 on my Inspiron 7000 (ATI Rage video 8mb; 15" LCD;
> etc). X works great without down-grading the BIOS (I had to enable frame
> buffering). An excellent resource is the [Linux Inspiron] mail list, and
> associated web sites. http://inspiron.ntsj.com/ (the web page refers to
> Insp.3500, but the list deals w/ all models).
>
> // Michael
I just put SuSE 6.1 on my wife's new Thinkpad. It's nice, but it looks
like IBM puts useless winmodems on there laptops. Yeesh.
Toshiba is just now setting up a site with info about running Linux on
their laptops.
Dell has supposedly been shipping Linux for some time, but everytime I
get a flyer in the mail from them all I see is M$ BS.
I guess RH should work a SparcBook too ?
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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:06:21 +0200
From: Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Accessing dos files from Linux.
What I'm doing on my system is to use mtools; although they are most
frequently used to access floppies, it is also possible to access a dos
partition with them. You have to specify a letter for your dos partition
in some conf file (/etc/mtools.conf or so... I don't remember the name).
Install the mtools if they aren't already and look at the mtools manpage
for details. When you are done, you can access the dos partition in the
same way you access a floppy drive.
Another possibility would be to mount the dos partition. However, I
didn't do that, so I can't provide details.
HTH,
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Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics,
J.W. Goethe University Frankfurt/Main
Feldbergstrasse 47 D-60323 Frankfurt/Main, Germany
Phone:+49-(0)69-798-24949 Fax:+49-(0)69-798-23280
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From: "Buhrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.2600,linux.redhat.announce,linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Please Help Resolution Change In KDE
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 20:22:52 +0200
If you haven't worked it out yet : make sure you have the resolutions, which
you want to switch back and forth from, set in the /etc/XF86Config file. An
easy way to do this is to set them all up on start up, or run Setup again
(i.e. "Setup" on Redhat).
John Clarke wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have the same problem and Ctrl + Alt + "+" ("-") does nothing. Any
>ideas?
>
>John
>
>Jim Porter wrote:
>>
>> Ctrl + Alt + "+" or
>> Ctrl + Alt + "+"
>>
>> On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:48:03 GMT, "Intro Technologies"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I have installed Linux for the 1st time in my life, it boots into
something
>> >called KDE...after I login I see a nice pretty screen but the fonts are
HUGE
>> >and all the windows are HUGE not allowing me to do anything, can someone
>> >please tell me how I could change the resolution easily, I have a Viper
V550
>> >16MB AGP Card and Panasonic P110 (21inch) monitor. Again, when Linux
boots
>> >all I see is a login screen and after I login everything is HUGE.
>
>
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From: Ronald Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: seg fault running RealPlayer G2
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 13:06:45 -0700
Hi, I downloaded the G2 realplayer this morning
and installed it... I can run the realplayer
(that is get the realplayer but when I try to play
a file, either a local file or across the net from
within netscape I get a segmentation fault. Any ideas?
My specs:
Suse 6.1 Linux
kernel 2.2.5
PII 350
196 megs SDRAM
Xpert 98 VC
Thanks,
R Haynes
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where can I get free Linux CD?
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 14:35:37 -0600
Bill Unruh wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott) writes:
>
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>Go to www.linuxmall.com. They have CDs for $1.89 plus shipping
>
> >Or do what I did. Download the ISO image, and burn a CD.
>
> Which costs much more. Even the blank CDRom is worth about $1, and your
> CDRom writer will wear out faster , and your time is probably worth at
> least minimum wage, in which case the above has cost far far more than
> $2.
Or, if you're really, really on the cheap and don't mind
getting an older release, go to your local public library
and check out some books on linux. Chances are one or more
of them will have a CD in the back to install from. Pick
your favorite (preferred distribution, most recent, best
book, whatever) and install from that. You can always
update later if you need to.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 14:38:11 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michel Catudal wrote:
> Not a command line interface he says?
> This is new to me as I have never use yast any other way than
> in the console mode.
Yes, it's console mode, as in xterm, curses...as opposed to requiring
X...
but, is there a command line interface in the sense that it can be
scripted ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Accessing dos files from Linux.
Date: 3 Jul 1999 19:20:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:04:46 -0700,
Julian Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have LILO set up to boot dos and linux and it works great. I was wondering
>how i can get to my dos files from linux, if that is possible. I primarily
>need to move stuff from my linux partition to my dos partition. I am using Red
>Hat Linux 6.0.
You will get a bazillion answers, most the same. If you kernel is
compiled with the requisite modules, you should be able to mount your
DOS partition as follows (assuming the partition is hda1 and the
directory /dos exists):
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /dos
To make things more convenient, edit /etc/fstab and add a line like the
following (assuming the above command works);
/dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults,user,noauto,mode=0774 0 0
This will let any user mount the DOS partition such that he or she and
anyone in his or her group can read and write files there. Others will
have only read access. Just change the mode= directive to modify that.
You can also specify that only a particular group may have access to the
partition (usually the group msdos, which is 46 numerically on my
system, see /etc/group). In that case, the following might be useful:
/dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults,user,gid=46,mode=0770 0 0
--
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deep_Blue)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Mr. Kulisz wisdom ( is there any? )
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 19:36:12 GMT
Hi guys
I'm following your debate here,and I have my personal opinions about
politics as well but WHAT THIS HAVE TO DO with LINUX?
you're in a wrong newsgroup guys!
Why don't you start a new newsgroup called something like
alt.os.linux.general.philosophy as a place to debate all those
emerging
problems??
On Fri, 02 Jul 1999 13:58:06 -0700, Nonnaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well Dick, your reply is as I expected. Your quick to criticize others actions,
>but came up few solutions of your own ( by the way, I don't know which course of
>action that would have been the best concerning the Yugoslavia mater ). See
>below for further commentary on your incorrect assumptions.
>
>Richard Kulisz wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nonnaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Mr. Kulisz ( may I call you Dick? ), in a few post ago you said:
>>
>
>snip
>>
>> NATO is controlled by the USA. When was the last time it did something the
>> US didn't approve of?
>
> Are you saying that the other NATO countries did not WANT to be apart of
>that action that took place?
>
>snip
>
>>
>> Btw, why do you harp on the right to "criticize" when it obviously means
>> jack squat? Criticism of the US government obviously means a lot if the
>> mass media never report on it but are chock full of the administration's
>> propaganda.
>
> Criticism means "Jack squat" is the US. Do you really believe this? I will
>give you the benefit of the doubt that you are unaware of how much debating
>about this situation that took place in Congress. Many Senators and Congressmen
>were against taking action. In the end, more Senators, Congressmen, and plain
>old citizens thought we should go ahead ( and stop with the brainwashing media
>crap. Night after night on the way home from work I listen to radio talk show
>host Intelligently debate why we SHOULD NOT take action. No government agent
>shut him down! And the national news regularly showed protest that were taking
>place ).
>
>
>>
>> >On the other side of the argument, many people were saying that if we
>> >did nothing,
>> >we would have let genocide happen in another country, and that it would be no
>> >different than watching a woman get raped on the street and do nothing about it.
>>
>> Ahhh, so it's obviously better to start shooting at the woman in hopes she'll
>> start fighting back at the rapist? Thank you for the analogy ..
>
> Well duh, shooting at the woman would be stupid! What if while you were pulling
>the rapist off of the woman, the woman received a serious cut, would you say it was
>still wrong?
>
> And by the way, you didn't have the balls to say what you thought someone should
>do when confronted with a situation like this! Should they close there eyes and
>pretend it's not happening? Should they try to stop the rapist? What? I don't
>think you have the intelligence to answer this question ( prove me wrong! ).
>
>>
>> >So, the question I put to you: If you had the power to stop genocide in another
>> >country, should you use it? Please give a clear and decisive answer and explain
>> >why you would or would not. I think this is a far request to someone that is
>> >quite vocal about the US's decisions.
>>
>> The first thing you should do is *NOT* to escalate the atrocities already
>> going on. The intentions of the USA are not in question; they are evil and
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Please explain the intentions of the US? Why were they evil? The US did
>not take this action to stop the atrocities? ( it could be argued that the
>US's methods could have been better, but intentions? ).
>
>
>> this can be seen by anyone who knows jack fuck all about US foreign policy.
>> Should the USA stop atrocities? It should first stop *helping* atrocities!!
>>
>> >One other comment, what do you think of the other countries that are part of
>> >NATO? Are as bad or worst than the US? PLEASE don't try to use the line that
>>
>> Since the USA controls them, to a lesser or greater extent, and they just
>> don't have the power to commit atrocities in foreign nations like the USA
>> does, it doesn't matter whether they're evil or not.
>>
>> It's interesting that you don't leave open the possibility of the rest of
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> NATO being better than the USA; *obviously* the USA is the best, most well-
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> It's VERY interesting how easily you read this into what I wrote, since I
>never said or implied this. Very telling about yourself!
>
>> intentioned nation on the planet in your own fucked-up little mind, right?
>>
>> >they had no other choice but to go along with the US. Every news source that
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >I heard said that the US was dragging its feet on getting involved, and that the
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> That says a lot about the uniformity of the US media. The USA was the one to
>> destroy a treaty brokered by Germany and France.
>>
>> >other NATO countries wanted to take action. If you have information to the
>> >contrary, please post your source.
>> >
>> >I look forward to reading your reply.
>>
>> This isn't reciprocal.
>
> Your statements would lead one to EASILY believe that it is not the US's
>actions you hate, but of it's successes! Jealousy, Plain and simple!
>
>
>Nonnaho
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From: David Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird kernel problem
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 13:32:45 -0700
Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> I have compiled kernel 2.2.10 and put it over my RH-compiled 2.2.5-22. I
> copied vmlinux, bzImage, and System.map to /boot and redid the symlinks.
> Now, when I with the new kernel, it works fine, but when I leave it
> turned on for a long time, it "turns off," meaning the computer doesn't
> respond and the HD light is on, but no HD activity. This has also
> happened with every kernel I have compiled that was above 2.2. I am not
> sure if this has to do with my hardware, or with my choosing wrong
> options. I have a PCI S3 Virge video card, an old ISA sound card (I am
> using the ad1848 and opl3 modules). I also have an external modem.
> Could anyone give me some suggestions or send me their .config file?
Something similar happened to me too a while ago. In make config make
sure you don't include the power-saver features.
David Greer
Ordained Priest of the Church of Linuxology
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: How do I tell "man" or "emacs" to use full telnet window?
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 13:23:03 -0700
Hi folks,
how can I tell "man" or "emacs" or any other ascii based
application to use the full telnet window that I have set up? I
use netterm as telnet application where I can set row and column
numbers bigger than 24 by 80. But "man" does use only this
standard screen to scroll and "emacs" does only cover this 32x80
area of the window. Any hints?
Thanks in advance, David.
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