Linux-Misc Digest #906, Volume #25 Sun, 1 Oct 00 00:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Good gaming video card for Linux? (Garry Knight)
Re: good mail/news client (Garry Knight)
PLEASE HELP ASAP: Trying to use PPP to across other computer with serial port Trying
to use PPP to across other computer with serial port ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Corel Linux: It's installed but I can't find it. (SJ)
Re: Formatting CF Card (Christopher Browne)
Win2K + Linux: NTFS and ext2fs (Neil Zanella)
Re: Mounting Sony SuperStation Tapes (James Silverton)
Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source... ("Douglas F.
Yriart")
Partition sizes and LILO. (Darek M)
Max File limits? ("Antony Mak")
Re: Mounting Sony SuperStation Tapes (Christopher Browne)
Re: Mounting Sony SuperStation Tapes (James Silverton)
DAMNIT!! After install of LM 7.2b3, LINUX WON'T BOOT!!! (Brando)
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Good gaming video card for Linux?
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 01:27:25 +0100
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Christopher Browne wrote:
>What you spend your $200 is your choice; don't blame me if you make
>buying choices on the basis of this and find that radiation from the
>card causes your children to grow up with flippers :-).
I can just hear it now. "Congratulations, Mr Smith. It's a pinball table." :o)
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Garry Knight
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: good mail/news client
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 01:31:10 +0100
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>*** Martijn Brouwer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote in the
>comp.os.linux.misc newsgroup about "good mail/news client" on Sep 21,
>2000:
>
>:) I am still looking for a graphical mailclient
>Try Pine, get it at http://www.washington.edu/pine/
There's a graphical version of Pine?
The current Maximum Linux has a short review of Magellan - a combination
PIM/mail client. Yet another Outlook killer.
<URL: http://www.kalliance.org/Magellan/index.html>
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Garry Knight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PLEASE HELP ASAP: Trying to use PPP to across other computer with serial port
Trying to use PPP to across other computer with serial port
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 01:48:43 GMT
PLEASE HELP ASAP: Trying to use PPP to across other computer with
serial port Trying to use PPP to across other computer with serial port
I have two computers a desktop running Redhat 7.0 and a notepad running
Redhat 6.2. I use to use PLIP to share data but someone told me that PPP
is better and I been trying to get it to work.
I been running the following command on both computers
pppd -detach crtscts lock <local ip>:<remote ip> /dev/ttyS1 38400& I am
using a null modem cable so it should work.. if you can help in anyway
please email me ASAP at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: SJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Linux: It's installed but I can't find it.
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 02:30:04 -0000
Heywood wrote:
>
> Upon installing the Corel Linux download, I used the DOS partition
> alternative in the installation program. I thought that I knew what that
> meant and that I could find it to run it. Oops! I don't know where Linux
> is on my hard drive or how to find it. Can anyone help? Thank you very
> much.
I guess it is installed in c:\cdl. Check this folder out and you will
find a 1 Gig file in there. Refer to linux.corel.com for online document
to find out how to start linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Formatting CF Card
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:05:33 GMT
In our last episode (30 Sep 2000 23:55:30 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Peter T. Breuer said:
>Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Thanks; putting a usable partition table on it meant that I could
>: format it using "DOS FORMAT."
>
>: I would much _prefer_ to be able to do so using a Linux-based
>: utility, but unfortunately fdformat and its successor "superformat"
>
>But what's wrong with "mkdosfs", which is after all what is intended to
>make dos filesystems?
Had someone suggested that option in time, I would have used it; sadly
I heard about it a day late. That should help next time...
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... it's just that in C++ and the like, you don't trust _anybody_, and
in CLOS you basically trust everybody. the practical result is that
thieves and bums use C++ and nice people use CLOS. -- Erik Naggum
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win2K + Linux: NTFS and ext2fs
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 00:36:10 -0230
Hello,
I am in the process of building a kernel that supports NTFS. I have
noticed that while Linux can easily read NTFS the write support is
still a little bit dangerous (experimental). I have also noticed
that unlike the DOS fdisk utility that used to come with Win95 and
Win98, the Win2K installation program actually sees all my Linux
partitions and actually asks me what I want to do with them (and
I just left them untouched). Another thing that was very surprising
about the Win2K installation program is that it did not overwrite
LILO at all (unlike the nastier Win95 and Win98). All in all it
seems that MS has been reading some of the Linux sources and
learning something from them...
And now that I have done some chatting, I would like to ask a
question: is there a utility that allows Win2K to read (and
perhaps also write to but read would be good enough) my
Linux ext2fs partitions? This would make life somewhat
easier as I do a lot of swapping files back and forth.
Thanks!
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting Sony SuperStation Tapes
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:09:08 -0400
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> In our last episode (Sat, 30 Sep 2000 17:01:40 -0400),
> the artist formerly known as James Silverton said:
> >I have a Sony SuperStation tape drive that is recognized on booting as
> >hdd. Can anyone tell me how to mount a Superstation tape under Linux? I
> >suspect that what I need to know is how to describe the formatting of
> >the tapes. The machine is a dual boot system and the SuperStation is my
> >regular backup unit for the Windows partition.
>
> You normally don't "mount" tapes as filesystems. [One of the less bright
> "in-duh-viduals" I had the fortune of working with a few years ago never
> quite figured this out despite being told _many times_. He thought he
> was a Unix SysAdmin; fortunately some of us knew better...]
>
> You read the contents, and do [something] to interpret them.
>
> What kind of software was used to generate the tape? If it is not
> basically streaming a FAT filesystem or some such thing onto it, then
> it is entirely likely that you will be quite unable to read the data
> generated on the Windows side of things...
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
> Never hit someone head on, always sideswipe. Never say, "Foo's last
> patch was brain-damaged", but rather, "While fixing the miscellaneous
> bugs in 243.xyz [foo's patch], I found...."
> -- from the Symbolics Guidelines for Sending Mail
Yes, that's the problem; I don't need to read what's presently on the
tapes but I'd like to write to them and read them back! It is difficult
to find out details but the tapes appear to be formatted in a multitrack
fashion. The Windows backup program supplied by Sony can reformat but
there is little information available about how it is done. I might be
able to get the information from Sony but I have not yet found anyone
there who knows about Linux.
I suppose I am hoping that someone has managed to use this hardware
under Linux. I have searched but have not found anything so far. It is a
pity since the drive is relatively cheap and works well as a backup
device under Windows.
Jim.
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James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
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From: "Douglas F. Yriart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source...
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 02:18:38 GMT
Bruce, for kernel source and info about kernel updates you need to go to
http://www.kernel.org/ the Linux Kernel Archive site.
A kernel is a kernel. I would be very suspicious of a distribution that
customizes the kernel heavily.
Doug Yriart
Bruce LaZerte wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 05:27:23, David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Is there another linux distribution out there that only uses standard
> > > kernels, equivalent to those found on ftp.kernel.org? Given the
> > > monolithic linux kernel and the necessity to recompile it when
> > > updating certain device drivers, this would be nice feature.
> >
> > Most other distributions do. Including RedHat and Slackware.
> >
> > I use RedHat. AFAIK, they don't change the kernel sources at all in
> > their distribution.
>
> Just looked in a RedHat book at the bookstore. Although a little out of
> date, RH V6.0, it says there's about 40 patches on the official kernel.
>
> Slackware's web site only talks about the AC (Alan ?) patch which is
> considered semi-official (?)
> ---------------------
> Bruce LaZerte
> Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
> mail at fwr dot on dot ca
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From: Darek M <>
Subject: Partition sizes and LILO.
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:23:11 -0700
I have a 20gig drive. The first partition is a 17gig FAT32 for
wintendo, followed by 3gig linux native and rest for swap. I wanted to
slap on rh6 over the weekend since I left my Slack7 cd at work and
when trying to install LILO to the mbr, the installer encountered an
error.
My question is: do I need to worry about the size of the first
partition in order to have lilo install properly? Would I have to
repartition? Or should I try to install the loader to the root of the
partition instead?
Thanks in advance.
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From: "Antony Mak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Max File limits?
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:27:10 +0800
Hi all,
Recently, I always receive such messages on my SuSE 6.2 console.
VFS: file-max limit 4096 reached
Unable to load interpreter
I think that it is reach the max file limit of my kernel. Does anyone tell
me how to solve this problems?
thanks in advance
Antony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Mounting Sony SuperStation Tapes
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:34:43 GMT
In our last episode (Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:09:08 -0400),
the artist formerly known as James Silverton said:
>Christopher Browne wrote:
>>
>> In our last episode (Sat, 30 Sep 2000 17:01:40 -0400),
>> the artist formerly known as James Silverton said:
>> >I have a Sony SuperStation tape drive that is recognized on booting as
>> >hdd. Can anyone tell me how to mount a Superstation tape under Linux? I
>> >suspect that what I need to know is how to describe the formatting of
>> >the tapes. The machine is a dual boot system and the SuperStation is my
>> >regular backup unit for the Windows partition.
>>
>> You normally don't "mount" tapes as filesystems. [One of the less bright
>> "in-duh-viduals" I had the fortune of working with a few years ago never
>> quite figured this out despite being told _many times_. He thought he
>> was a Unix SysAdmin; fortunately some of us knew better...]
>>
>> You read the contents, and do [something] to interpret them.
>>
>> What kind of software was used to generate the tape? If it is not
>> basically streaming a FAT filesystem or some such thing onto it, then
>> it is entirely likely that you will be quite unable to read the data
>> generated on the Windows side of things...
>Yes, that's the problem; I don't need to read what's presently on the
>tapes but I'd like to write to them and read them back!
That's better news... If you were worried about pulling in data from
a Windows-generated tape, I'd expect this to be a rather forlorn hope.
>It is difficult
>to find out details but the tapes appear to be formatted in a multitrack
>fashion. The Windows backup program supplied by Sony can reformat but
>there is little information available about how it is done. I might be
>able to get the information from Sony but I have not yet found anyone
>there who knows about Linux.
>
>I suppose I am hoping that someone has managed to use this hardware
>under Linux. I have searched but have not found anything so far. It is a
>pity since the drive is relatively cheap and works well as a backup
>device under Windows.
A quick Google search does not provide overly encouraging results:
<a href=
"http://web.gnu.walfield.org/mail-archive/linux-tape/2000-February/0051.html">
stdin: Re: Sony SuperStation / Aiwa Bolt?</a>
Indicates that it is likely a "dead" product, and suggests alternatives
<a href= "http://slashdot.org/askslashdot/98/12/04/011230.shtml">
Slashdot:Help Needed w/ Sony Superstation Tape Drive</a>
... Did not attract _any_ discussion ...
<a href="http://www.mailgate.org/linux/linux.dev.tape/msg00070.html">
Mailgate: linux.dev.tape: Sony SuperStation/Aiwa Bolt</a>
... Indicates that the drive may be recognized, but doesn't work long
enough to do a backup ...
<a href=
"http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-hardware%40senator-bedfellow.mit.edu/\
msg02237.html">
Linux-Hardware Digest #263</a>
... Indicates who was working on resolving the problems alluded to in the
previous link...
Lastly is a quite negative answer...
<a href=
"http://web.gnu.walfield.org/mail-archive/linux-tape/2000-June/0049.html">
Negative Answer</a>
... which indicates that the tape format scheme was proprietary, and
that the discontinuance of the product means nobody is likely to put much
more work into it.
[The "format" issue is somewhat distinct from what I alluded to earlier;
tapes have to be "formatted," to put some header information onto
the tape. It was a longstanding problem with FTAPE; SCSI tape drives
tend to implement this in hardware, which seems to me to be the Right
Thing...]
Seems quite likely that you should plan to use the tape drive with
Windows, and get something newer when the drive dies.
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I always try to do things in chronological order.
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting Sony SuperStation Tapes
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:39:39 -0400
James Silverton wrote:
>
> Christopher Browne wrote:
> >
> > In our last episode (Sat, 30 Sep 2000 17:01:40 -0400),
> > the artist formerly known as James Silverton said:
> > >I have a Sony SuperStation tape drive that is recognized on booting as
> > >hdd. Can anyone tell me how to mount a Superstation tape under Linux? I
> > >suspect that what I need to know is how to describe the formatting of
> > >the tapes. The machine is a dual boot system and the SuperStation is my
> > >regular backup unit for the Windows partition.
> >
> > You normally don't "mount" tapes as filesystems. [One of the less bright
> > "in-duh-viduals" I had the fortune of working with a few years ago never
> > quite figured this out despite being told _many times_. He thought he
> > was a Unix SysAdmin; fortunately some of us knew better...]
> >
> > You read the contents, and do [something] to interpret them.
> >
> > What kind of software was used to generate the tape? If it is not
> > basically streaming a FAT filesystem or some such thing onto it, then
> > it is entirely likely that you will be quite unable to read the data
> > generated on the Windows side of things...
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
> > Never hit someone head on, always sideswipe. Never say, "Foo's last
> > patch was brain-damaged", but rather, "While fixing the miscellaneous
> > bugs in 243.xyz [foo's patch], I found...."
> > -- from the Symbolics Guidelines for Sending Mail
>
> Yes, that's the problem; I don't need to read what's presently on the
> tapes but I'd like to write to them and read them back! It is difficult
> to find out details but the tapes appear to be formatted in a multitrack
> fashion. The Windows backup program supplied by Sony can reformat but
> there is little information available about how it is done. I might be
> able to get the information from Sony but I have not yet found anyone
> there who knows about Linux.
>
> I suppose I am hoping that someone has managed to use this hardware
> under Linux. I have searched but have not found anything so far. It is a
> pity since the drive is relatively cheap and works well as a backup
> device under Windows.
I had not previously searched with Google but I just got some
references. Unfortunately, all seem to indicate failure with Linux. Ah
well! The drive *is* doing its job well under the "other" OS.
Jim.
--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
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From: Brando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: DAMNIT!! After install of LM 7.2b3, LINUX WON'T BOOT!!!
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:46:05 GMT
I am installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 beta 3 using lnx4win. The install went wonderfully.
Very nice. There were only a few packages that caused an error during the install, but
I
continued to finish the install. Now, after everything was done, it came time to
reboot.
The GRUB loader comes up with
linux
failsafe
windows
floppy
I choose linux and I get this error and the laptop freezes:
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c4000000
current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
#pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010:[<c01f5acd>]
EFLAGS: 00010213
eax: 00000000 ebx: c3f7de36 ecx: fff7de35 edx: ffffffff
esi: 00000015 edi: c4000000 ebp: 00000001 esp: c3673dec
ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Process swapper (pid: 1, process nr: 1, stackpage=c3673000)
Stack: c02b7ce0 00000001 c37ef200 00000008 00000655 00000086 00000655 000003f6
c3f7de00 c01a65ea c3f7de36 c020ffe0 c3f7de00 c01a65dc c3f7de14 00000014
00000001 00000246 000000ec c02b7d40 c02b7ce0 c02b7ca0 0000005a 00000246
Call Trace: [<c02a65ea>] ... (19 more similar to this one)
Code: f2 ae f7 d1 49 89 cd 39 f5 7c 35 4d 89 74 24 1c b0 00 89 da
What the hell happened??? I'm so frustated right now. I went and tried the failsafe and
even tried to boot to linux from within Windows, but its the same result.
PLEASE, I BEG OF Y'ALL. Can anyone help me get this thing booted??
Brandon
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