Linux-Misc Digest #954, Volume #20 Wed, 7 Jul 99 15:13:10 EDT
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Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Paul D. Smith)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
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Process incoming mail with a script. (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o?= Bonina)
Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support (toby)
Re: Signal 11? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: would linux run on a partition NTFS from NT4 with sp5 (Duncan Simpson)
Re: grep (Flint Slacker)
Re: Lotus Notes for Linux??? (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: VMWare (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Re: amount of space a user can use ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Tekram-Controller (Gerald Willmann)
Pointers to AnonFTP FAQ? ("Steve Snyder")
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Anthony Ord)
BSD Process Accounting question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Connecting to NetZero through Linux (Monte Phillips)
porting SunOS C++ program to RH 5.2 Linux ("Olson W.")
Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support ("Arad Rostampour")
Receiving Mail over PPP (Martin McCormick)
Re: Creative Ensoniq Audio PCI (MikeSimons)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! (Stewart Honsberger)
TV Card ("Ed Russell")
Re: accessing c:\My Documents dir on a linux mount (Dave Brown)
Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36 (Patrick Letovsky)
Re: first/second/third world (Mykool)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? ("Fredrich P. Maney")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 07 Jul 1999 12:01:16 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% De Messemaeker Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
dmj> "Paul D. Smith" wrote:
>> Maybe you guys should let go of your knee-jerk prejudices WRT the
>> intelligence and attitudes of U.S. posters, and try to think more
>> carefully about what you read before reacting to it.
>>
>> Quite obviously the original comment meant that it wasn't a _world_
>> war until the U.S. declared war on Japan and Germany declared war on the
>> U.S. Before that, it was mainly a European war.
dmj> Didn't you had history-classes ? Before the US got involved,
dmj> Europe and Northern Africa was on fire, there was a
dmj> German-Russian alliance, and Japan was fighting the
dmj> Chinese. Pretty big area, 3 continents. But the US wasn't (yet)
dmj> involved so it wasn't a worldwar :-)) nice, very nice :-)
I never said the U.S., per se, had to be involved.
Hmm. So you're saying that without any participation by any country on
one side of the world, it's still a _world_ war? Nice, very nice.
Or, put another way, would you call a war that didn't involve _any_
European countries a world war? Uh huh.
Always good to know where our respective prejudices lie :).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 7 Jul 1999 16:08:27 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc John Imrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= >
= > Exactly my point! Just *what* defines a world war? (I am aware of the
= > axis alliance, the Spanish civil war etc. --- let's not forget Finland
= > and Russia either!)
= >
= > --
= Just to add fat to the fire. Hitler tried to get an alience with Britain at the
= start of WW2 (when ever that was <g>). He thaught this would work as the
= British Royal Family is, of cause, German.
Fortunately, even though some of the Royals were Nazi sympathisers... We
chose the right side....
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o?= Bonina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Process incoming mail with a script.
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:20:28 +0100
Hi!
I want to process my incoming mail with a Perl script. How do I
configure my mailbox to do this?
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From: toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:14:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Its a dual boot (win98 + Linux) machine. In the event that I have to
>mail this back
>to Gateway, will they create problems on finding that Linux has been
>installed
>on the machine??
Yes, so don't tell them. And if they ask you how much space your harddrive
has tell them 4.3GB not how much WIN98 reports. They got a friend of mine
on his dual-booter this way. If you are sending it off, they will not work
on it.
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From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Signal 11?
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:10:05 GMT
Terry Fry wrote:
>
> I had a link to a web page that described singal 11's and their
> possible meaning, but lost it. Anyone know of what page?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Terry Fry
> Baltimore, MD
http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: would linux run on a partition NTFS from NT4 with sp5
Date: 7 Jul 1999 16:31:18 GMT
In <7lvn8c$m1c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hi !
>Sorry to ask that kind of question but I would like to use Linux on my
>machine but before to buy red hat I would like to know if it would work with
>my configuration, I have a NT4 workstation with 320 ram and dual p2 300 mgz.
>and the all is install on ntfs partition.
>thanks a lot to help.
>regard, Andy
We would need more information to make a definitive statement. 2.2.x and 2.3.x
has SMP and the legend says that 2.4 will have finer grained SMP. There is
(experimental?) read-only NTFS support. 320Mb of memory is supported but you
may need to put
append="mem=320M"
in /etc/lilo.conf and retrun lilo, followed by a reboot, to get it all
used (the older BIOS call can return a maximum of 64Mb). The mem=320M
tells you the kernel to think ypou have 320Mb whatever anybdy else
says. VMware should let you run both Linux and NT at the same time if
you feel the need.
Only Intel's SMP stuff is supported at the moment, so if you have a board
that uses AMD's then be warned. AFAIK the common SMP motherboards support
only Intel anyway.
The problems, in priority order are
- winmodems, winprinters, etc which are not supported due to complete
lack of documentation from the manufacturers.
- sound cards which are and are not supported for the same reasons.
- networking cards: most are supported except for a few whose manufacturers
refuse to supply documentation.
- video cards: most are supported with some exceptions (due to lack of
documentation, the time it takes the XFree86 people to write the code,
etc).
- USB support is rather limited.
There are commercial X servers which support the newest video cards
before XFree86 and www.4front.com sells OSS, which supports many of
the otherwise unsupported sound cards. Newer NICs are well addressed
on Donald Becker's page if yours is not already supported.
NE*000 clones are really plug and play---I put one in my no-network
card machine, ensured I had a kernel with NE*000 support and the
kernel discovered it at boot time :-) This is *much* easier than
getting windows to use the card.
win* stuff will get supported when someone gets the information and
motivation to do it. Even the official version of RH is under $100 and
if you just want the GPLed stuff cheapbytes will sell you an installable
CD for $2 (+shippping I think)---for anyone who can afford NT this is
very small beer.
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flint Slacker)
Subject: Re: grep
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 19:17:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can get a package, rktools.
On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:56:51 GMT, Martin A. Boegelund
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi.
>
>Does anyone here know a command/tool for Windows that does the same
>thing as the UNIX command grep?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Lotus Notes for Linux???
Date: 7 Jul 1999 16:27:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan Eady wrote:
>Does anyone know if a Linux version of Lotus Notes is available? I am
>considering loading Linux on some machines @ work, but my company uses
>Lotus Notes for messaging so I need to obtain a Linux version first.
>
>Thanks for any help you can provide.
IBM announced at one of the trade shows they would have the whole
thing (including whatever they call Domino now) ported and supported
by the end of the year. Meanwhile, your best bet is the Solaris-2
version. At my last job I ran Notes on a Solaris-2 box with 300 MB RAM,
with its display on my Linux box. It worked better than the Winders-95
version. Notes is a pig and a half, and did not run well on older,
smaller SPARC boxes.
Cameron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Subject: Re: VMWare
Date: 07 Jul 1999 12:43:40 -0400
Kingsley Tart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> VMWare for Linux looks great (www.vmware.com). I'm told that
> Linux runs on a PowerPC - I take it that it's too much to
> expect VMWare to run on that as well?
>
> Cheers,
> Kingsley.
> Remove "norubbish" from Email address for Email replies.
The reason VMWare runs so fast is because it does not, for the most
part, emulate. It runs the Windows/application binaries directly on the
x86 processor. There is some sleight of hand necessary for when Windows
tries to access the hardware directly and has to be fooled into
thinking it is running directly on the hardware, but this is only a
small percentage of execution.
So yes, it's too much to expect VMWare to run x86 binaries on a PPC.
Collin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: amount of space a user can use
Date: 7 Jul 1999 16:13:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
= Does anyone know how to restrict the size of a folder in Linux (Redhat
= 6.0). I'm hosting web pages and had to leave them at unlimited for the
= moment.
There SHOULD be a quota system as part of the distribution...
Type `man quota` or `apropos quota`
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tekram-Controller
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:36:56 -0700
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Karl Lewalter wrote:
> i want to install SuSE 6.1. My CD-ROM is connected by a Tekram 390F
> controller. According to the handbook I added following parameter before
> installing : linux ncr53c8xx=650,10. The controller is located at 6500h
> and Irq 10. But the CD-ROM is not detected by setup, so I cannot
> install.
> Can anybody help ?? Thanks a lot ... :-))
you could try a different installation method. Download a floppy set from
www.debian.org or do a ftp install of redhat (assuming you have an
ethernet connection at Uni Koeln). Maybe one or both of these alternatives
is also available for suse. And then take care of the CRrom later.
Have you checked your SCSI chain is properly terminated, not too long etc.
Does the tekram have a bios, if yes have you ckecked the SCSI chain from
the bios? Viel Glueck,
GErald
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pointers to AnonFTP FAQ?
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 16:17:13 GMT
I would like to configure my RH 6.0 system for use an an anonymous FTP
server. Yes, I have the anonftp RPM installed, but I'm not clear on the
permissions needed to allow/restrict user access.
Basically, I want to create a read-only directory, e.g.:
/pub/outgoing
and a write-only directory, e.g.:
/pub/incoming
The write-only directory would not allow reading, or even listing, of the
files. My intent is to use this directory for work-related files that I
don't want the world to see.
I've looked through the FAQs and mini-FAQs, but don't see how to arrange
the kind of setup described above.
Pointers to info, please? Thank you.
***** Steve Snyder *****
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:05:23 GMT
On 06 Jul 1999 12:33:53 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul
D. Smith) wrote:
<snip>
>Maybe you guys should let go of your knee-jerk prejudices WRT the
>intelligence and attitudes of U.S. posters, and try to think more
>carefully about what you read before reacting to it.
>
>Quite obviously the original comment meant that it wasn't a _world_
>war until the U.S. declared war on Japan and Germany declared war on the
>U.S. Before that, it was mainly a European war.
So let me see - excluding Europe and going for the bigger
countries I can think of from the top of my head...
Canada was involved, India was involved, Japan was involved,
China was involved, the Soviet Union was involved, South
Africa was involved, Australia / New Zealand were involved -
and it was a mainly European war...
What was this about the intelligence of US posters?
And of course it only became a World War when the United
States of America (with no other country) became involved.
What was this about the attitude of US posters?
Regards
Anthony
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| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: BSD Process Accounting question
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 16:50:02 GMT
Hi,
I have a cgi (correo.de) that executes 119 real time seconds but spends
51.92 cpu seconds. What I can not understand is, why sendmail spends
almost the same amount of real seconds but much less cpu seconds. What
is the big difference between "cp" and "re" ?
242 671.68re 0.52cp httpd*
2049 119.07re 51.92cp correo.de
842 108.00re 0.69cp sendmail*
Thanks in advance
Nikolai
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monte Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Connecting to NetZero through Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 16:21:41 GMT
I may be dead wrong on this, having only set up two NetZero accounts
and both on windows machines, but it is my understanding that NetZero
runs on only Win & MAc's. One of the setups I did was for a Win box
networked through a linux server to a modem, that worked fine. But a
direct access from linux to NetZero I have not done, nor seen. If it
is possible I would certainly give it a shot.
Further, YAY! on you if you do write a HOWTO thats uptodate. :)
g'Luk
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I am attempting to set up my Netzero account through my Linux.
>I was wondering if any has done it or if anyone can point me in the
>correct direction? I have seen posts on this but they have all been
>incomplete. I am new to Linux and I am unfamiliar with just about every
>thing. But as I can not connect to the internet from home it becomes
>difficult to Dload How-tos etc.
>
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From: "Olson W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: porting SunOS C++ program to RH 5.2 Linux
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:33:04 -0700
(sorry for the repost- b/c my computer clock is faster...)
Hi!
I am porting small to medium size C++ program written for Solaris (comes
with makefile) to
R.H. Linux 5.2. I tried to modify the makefile and run it, but I could not
get it compiled properly.
At this point, I couldn't be more specific than what's mentioned above. But,
in generally, what should one watch out when porting C++ program from
Solaris to Linux?
Perhaps the layout / spacing of makefile in Linux is different from SunOS?
thanks.
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From: "Arad Rostampour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:39:27 -0600
I haven't dealt with Gateway, but if it is a hardware problem, that can be
seen under any OS, I've actually sent back a notebook with the hard drive
removed. They usually have their own test hard drives for use in diagnosing
and repairing notebooks.
Just a thought,
Arad
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Arad Rostampour- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NT Platform and I/O Team
Software and System Development Lab
Hewlett-Packard
toby wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Its a dual boot (win98 + Linux) machine. In the event that I have to
>>mail this back
>>to Gateway, will they create problems on finding that Linux has been
>>installed
>>on the machine??
>
>Yes, so don't tell them. And if they ask you how much space your harddrive
>has tell them 4.3GB not how much WIN98 reports. They got a friend of mine
>on his dual-booter this way. If you are sending it off, they will not work
>on it.
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin McCormick)
Subject: Receiving Mail over PPP
Date: 7 Jul 1999 14:56:50 GMT
There is a discussion going on in a mailing list dealing with
computer access by people who are blind regarding the loss of UNIX
shell accounts as more and more ISP's drop them in favor of PPP
connections in which the TCP/IP stack is on the end-user's system and
all the applications such as telnet, ftp, mail, etc are all the user's
responsibility.
People are saying that those who are grieving the loss of
their shell accounts should just get used to it and shell out the big
Dollars for special screen readers for Windows and all the problematic
access that goes along with trying to make Windows work with speech
output. These same voices say that the choice is either that or to
forget it.
Several of us have been explaining about how one can use older
P.C.'s as terminals in to Linux systems which then access the network
through ppp or Ethernet. This actually works quite well with the
older DOS p.c. equipped with a screen reader, speech synthesizer, and
a good terminal application like MSKermit. the shell is back and
such applications as telnet, ftp, lynx, etc all work perfectly. One
question that has been asked, however, is what can one do about mail?
Are there any ISP's that will somehow queue mail for you and let your
MTA such as sendmail or whatever download it to your Linux system so
that you can use whatever user agent you like on it? I presently
administer a Sun box at work and am working on installing Linux on a
system in my office, but the question of how to deal with mail on a
system that is not connected at all times needs to be answered before
we can say that everything works.
This is truly a Linux issue and not specifically a blind
issue. The only way it is a blind issue is if the ISP requires that
one use a specific GUI-based application to download the waiting mail.
In a perfect world, the ISP need only be the interface between one's
UNIX system and the Internet with the applications and user interface
being the responsibility of the user of the system.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group
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From: MikeSimons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Creative Ensoniq Audio PCI
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:46:21 GMT
I have the Mandrake 6.0 also, and the Soundblaster PCi 128. No sound
in Linux unless I turn it WAY UP LOUD and then only a little. Works
fine in W98.
I'm looking forward to any suggestions.
In article <7lue32$frc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael Derby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Mandrake Linux 6.0, and I noticed that it supposedly has
support for
> my sound card, but everytime I try to configure it, it says that one
of the
> effects is not supported... does anyone know how to solve this
problem.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Michael
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:29:46 GMT
On 07 Jul 1999 13:36:56 -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:
>> Usual German pronounciation is Leenooks, though I think I recall
>> having heard Lynooks, too.
>
>i have to agree with normal german pronounciation - LEE-nucks. that's
>how linus pronounces it btw.
Perhaps in German, but in English, there are no rules for pronouncing
an 'i' that would result in the 'EE' sound.
An 'i' can be soft ('ih') or hard ('eye') sounding. Not 'EE'.
I've always pronounced it with a soft 'i', resulting in 'lih-nooks'.
Linus is Norwegian, I beleive, so obviously he'd pronounce it differently
than I (a Canuck) would.
As the saying goes; "You say 'to-may-toe', I say 'to-mah-toe'..."
>> Since this thread is obviously OT,
BTW - This is the "misc" group - a group dedicated to discussing topics
related to lih-nooks, but not specifically covered by any other group.
Although somewhat insignifigant, this isn't OT :>
--
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Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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From: "Ed Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TV Card
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:41:32 GMT
Has anyone gotten an Aimslab's Extreme98 to run under rh5.2 ?? I have tried
using bttv and the patch that says it will enable this particular card, but
the make doesn't complete. If anyone has any feedback I would really
appreciate it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: accessing c:\My Documents dir on a linux mount
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Jul 99 18:36:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>my windows c:\ drive is mounted as vfat in RH 6.0 at boot time.
>I can see the drive fine, and read & write to it, except for the "My
>Documents" directory, presumably because of the whitespace.
>Does anybody know a way around this without having to change the name of
>the directory in MSWindows.
>
>
Or, rename the directory "Documents".
I presume that Windows is trying to force everyone to use a graphical
interface.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Patrick Letovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:08:58 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Christopher,
I understand the 3 parts involved into the process, so I guess I'll
need to move to a 64 bits OS. I'm gonna use an irix box to do this job.
Thanks again for the explanation.
Patrick
"Christopher B. Browne" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:50:05 -0700, Patrick Letovsky
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
> >Christopher Browne wrote:
> >>
> >> ext2 is quite capable of handling *filesystem* sizes considerably larger
> >> than 2GB. (2TB rings a bell.)
> >
> >I read your page about the 32 bits architecture limitation, actually
> >your page is very well documented for all kernel features.
> >In my case, it is just for being able to create a tar file > 2gb, so if
> >the only thing to do is to recompile tar under the 2.2.x with the latest
> >GNU C compiler, that is not that big of a deal.
> >But I still miss information about this patch itself, it can be in beta
> >or alpha, I want to give it a try. I mount a RAID5 disk array on
> >/dev/sda3, there, I only have backup files from other systems, and one
> >of this file needs to be > 2Gb. I hope the patch doesn't involved to
> >re-mkfs the partition.
> >
> >Any information on this unobtainable patch will be very appreciate.
>
> The *killer* part isn't a kernel patch; it's the (probably nonexistent
> at this point) GLIBC patch that is needed to support big files.
>
> SAS Institute did a summit on this, and some of the "big name" UNIX
> vendors do have API extensions to allow 64 bit file accessors on 32
> bit platforms.
>
> Note that this is anything but transparent; you really have to pick for
> LIBC to either be 32-bit-oriented, or 64-bit-oriented, and *NOT BOTH
> AT ONCE.*
>
> The result of *that* is that if you want to have tar/cat/dd/...
> support 64 bit access, you need to modify them as well as LIBC to use
> the 64 bit API.
>
> LIBC5 *definitely* doesn't support "big files," and I don't *think*
> that GLIBC2 provides both APIs (e.g. - small&large file accessors) yet.
>
> Net result:
> Patches must be to *ALL* of:
> a) Kernel,
> b) LIBC,
> c) Applications.
>
> I'm certain that c) hasn't been done, which puts you Out Of Luck.
>
> See: <http://www.sas.com/standards/large.file/x_open.20Mar96.html>
> for more details on the API changes.
>
> I do not know where the patch is.
> --
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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:28:50 -0400
> On the contrary. Intelligence looks the same but every idiot is different.
> For example, your idiocy is vastly different from any other idiot's I've
> met (and I've met dozens).
I think I found a quote for my sig!!!
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From: "Fredrich P. Maney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 7 Jul 1999 18:40:55 GMT
In comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[deletia]
:>Exactly *what* do you define WWII as? The war against Germany began
:>when Britain and France declared war. As far as I am concerned, WWII
:>began when the US declared war on Japan and Germany declared war on
:>the US.
: So what was it before that date? A bun fight?
No, it was a war between England/France and Germany. It was a "World
War" when Japan, Russia and the US joined in. Till then it was a "small"
but nasty regional war.
[deletia]
fpsm
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