Linux-Misc Digest #969, Volume #20 Thu, 8 Jul 99 19:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!! ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
EVENT> Linux User Group of Davis - July 13 - "Shell Programming II" (William
Kendrick)
Re: a good POP3 email client? (Edwin Johnson)
computers store in stereo rack (Alex Lam)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (I R A Aggie)
PCI Hot Plug (Jim Puthukattukaran)
Re: UUCP question. (Peter Caffin)
Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (Chris Aiken)
Init Question (Joshua Grauman)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (I R A Aggie)
Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (naftali)
Re: system.map (Silviu Minut)
Re: sound problems (scable)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? ("Colin R. Day")
Re: No Xvidtune in RH 6.0??? (Silviu Minut)
Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps? (Gergo Barany)
Re: linx vs hurd (Adam Di Carlo)
Re: RH6, bash, command-line editing (Chet Ramey)
Re: Can't eliminate Netscape error message (Stephen Chadfield)
Re: Help for MODEM - Why can't Linux to be built with supprot for Winmodem? (Hotdog)
Saving KDE environment upon logout (Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands)
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!!
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:52:00 -0400
Albert Wagner wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Netscape in windows changes the periods in filenames to underlines.
>This can cause problems until you manually rename and change them back.
>
>
I did download through win98 and I think I tried the renaming of the files
and it didn't work. I was very tired when I did it so I may hay screwed up.
I'll try it tonight when I get some time. I hope that works. Thanks again.
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Kendrick)
Subject: EVENT> Linux User Group of Davis - July 13 - "Shell Programming II"
Date: 8 Jul 1999 20:59:34 GMT
WHAT:
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LUGOD: The Linux User Group of Davis
WHEN:
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Tuesday, July 13th, 1999
6:30pm - 9:00pm
WHERE:
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Location
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LampPost Pizza ("West Lake" shopping center, in West Davis)
1260 Lake Blvd # 113
Davis, CA 95616
1-530-758-1111
Directions
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* From downtown Davis, take Covell or Russell west (going past hwy 113).
* From hwy 113 headed north, exit at Covell or Russell and turn left.
* From hwy 113 headed south, exit at Covell or Russell and turn right.
* From Russell, turn right onto Lake. West Lake will be on your right.
* From Covell, turn left onto Lake. West Lake will be on your left.
* LampPost is on the right side of the large Ray's store.
WHY:
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Topics will include:
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* Introduction to new members
* News, announcements and open forum
* Committess:
Social Tax Exempt Group Status
LUGOD Logo
Ambassador to other LUGs
Financial Report
* Future speakers at LUGOD
Seminar:
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Basics of Shell Programming, Part II
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This seminar is part two of our first attempt to help new Linux users.
Note: If you have one, please bring a laptop.
WHO:
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LUGOD is open to all members of the public.
HOW:
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For more information about LUGOD, please visit our website:
http://www.lugod.org/
If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sys (Vice Chairperson) Bill Kendrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/ http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Subject: Re: a good POP3 email client?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 Jul 1999 18:02:53 GMT
I use getpop3, a cinch to setup and works great. Then use the email client
of your choice, such as Pine to read the email.
...Edwin
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:49:20 -0400, Dave Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm looking for a good email client basically just to download my email to
>a local inbox... (so it doesn't take up so much space in my shell account
>on my school's server) a work-a-like to the eudora client for window's 95
>would be great. i don't really need the capability to read local mail,
>since i'm just running a dialup machine and no mail gets routed to my
>system. multiple mailbox support and/or filtering capability would be a
>plus too... i've tried mahogany and balsa, but neither quite cut it. any
>suggestions would be greatly appreciated... thanx in advance!
>
>dave
>
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: computers store in stereo rack
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:31:48 -0700
Sorry to start this thread. I was going to follow up on a similar
thread last night, but netscape crashed, and today, I cannot find that
thread.
The question was will there be overheating problem to keep computers
in a stereo rack, the answer is no; especially if you choose something
with around two inches or so of free space all around the computer,
and choose one that have large opening at the back, or you can modify
the back.
Alex Lam.
--
*remove all the Xs (upper case X) if reply by e mail.
** no more M$ Windoze.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Aggie)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 8 Jul 1999 17:41:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 8 Jul 1999 16:28:22 GMT, Fredrich P. Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<7m2jj6$mf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ Well considering that outside of Japan, to my knowledge the US and
+ Canada are the only places where Baseball is played.
Really? Tell that to the Orioles. I guess they didn't take a trip to
that country 90 miles off Florida to play baseball...
And you might want to inform Sammy Sosa that he should be playing
soccer, not baseball...
James
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Puthukattukaran)
Subject: PCI Hot Plug
Date: 8 Jul 1999 21:45:50 GMT
Alan Cox has started a new mailing list for those parties interested in Hot Plug
support for Linux. The mailing list is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Puthukattukaran
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UUCP question.
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:44:36 +0800
Chhabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a dial up acct. with my ISP.
Before you do anything, have you made special arrangements with your ISP
regarding UUCP? These days, the number of ISPs who provide UUCP services
is diminishing.
> How does one configure a mailserver and newsserver through uucp ? I tried
> to do that but got an error : Line busy.
I'd recommend the O'Reilly & Associates book, "Using & Managing UUCP" by
Ravin, O'Reilly, Dougherty & Todino. It's very easy to leave your system
open to security holes with UUCP. Best get the book and read a thorough
treatment of the topic.
> What are the advantages ? Speed ? or something else
The advantages are TCP/IP protocol overhead and (usually) short phone
calls since you'll have a relatively non-interactive relationship with
the Internet. Unless you're providing a mail and Usenet gateway service
to a non-net connected WAN, I wouldn't bother with UUCP though. You miss
out on the good stuff (like active FTP, the WWW, etc).
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/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: Chris Aiken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:43:59 -0400
Well I don't know why you had so much trouble with SuSE 6.1.
I have 196MB ram and a 2nd HD of 10.5GB dedicated to my Linux.
When I installed SuSE 6.1 I asked for a "full install" of "all" packages.
Don't know if I will ever use all the stuff, but with 10.5GB of disk, who cares.
The install went flawlessly and only took about 35-40 minutes. That might
seem like a long time but some 1100+ packages and about 4.3GB of
data from 4 cd's were copied and installed on my system. All my hardware
was recognized and was up and running w/o any problems.
To each his own I guess......
...cwa
naftali wrote:
> I used SUSE 6.1, and I would like to mention it is one big piece of crap.
> first of all it is really REALLY slow. on the same computer I managed to
> get emacs working at half the run time on Redhat 6 and 5, than I did on SUSE,
> and I am not a novice and I went through alot of distributions including slackware,
>and I must say, SUSE was the worst I've seen so far, also their installing
> procedure is highly uninformative and takes forever, on Redhat the installation
> took 40 minutes om SUSe it took 2.5 hours for the same type of installation.
>
> SUSE has some good merits:
> 1) as said before it does have alot of new software
> 2) its global initiation files are highly documented and informative.
> 3) it comes with a very detailed installation instructions on the cover.
>
> BUT in my VERY humble opition
>
> 1) since the files are in RPM format you can just use rpm -i under redhat and
>install all the software you require.
> 2) you can download all the files you wanna install out of the internet
> 3) if you need highly detailed installation instructions on the cover, maybe you
>should have someone else install the linux for you.
>
> to put a long story short....
>
> Stick to red-hat
>
> %On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Warren Bell wrote:
> %
> %> I've been running RedHat 5.2 and am wondering how SuSE Linux is. It
> %> seems to have a lot of the same features and RPM format. Is it just as
> %> good as RH? Better?
> %> I just want to make sure SuSE is a good OS and works well. It seems to
> %> be packed with features and apps for about half the price of RH 6.0.
> %
> %Suse is not an OS. Linux is the OS - no matter which distro you use.
> %Don't think it's worth reinstalling Linux w/o specific reasons. Or would
> %you simply reinstall because the new distro might have a better
> %installation procedure ???
> % Gerald
> %
> %
> %
--
===================================================================
The box said 'WIN95/98 or better.' so I installed LINUX!
Definition of Windows 95:
A 32 bit upgrade to 16 bit extensions for an 8 bit operating system
designed to run on a 4 bit processor by a 2 bit company that
doesn't like 1 bit of competition.
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From: Joshua Grauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Init Question
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 14:40:56 -0700
If there is a better place to ask this please let me know...
I tried to get init to start another process when entering
single user mode, so I added a symbolic link in
/etc/rc.d/rc1.d to a simple shell script which I want run
only when entering single user mode, but for some reason
when I enter single user mode ie "telinit 1", it doesn't run the
script. I looked at the inittab and /etc/rc and from what I
could figure out, when changing runlevels to 1, rc is run with
a command line parameter of 1 which should run all the scripts
in rc1.d that start with an 'S' with a command line parameter
of "start" and it should call all the scripts that start with a 'K'
with a command line parameter of "stop". It should also call
all the scripts in order which is why they were labeled
S10process1, S20process2, etc. Could someone please tell
me why my script isn't running and if my understanding of
init is incorrect. Thanks. BTW I am running RedHat 6.0.
Please also reply to my email.
Joshua Grauman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Aggie)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 8 Jul 1999 17:36:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 8 Jul 1999 16:21:29 GMT, Fredrich P. Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<7m2j69$mf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ I said, and I'll keep it simple for you, "... how many US troops died?
+ .... it was more than your entire country." Now, where in there do I
+ ever mention the US Civil War or compare the number of US dead in WWII
+ with the Civil War?
You don't. Let me draw you a picture.
US Civil War ~600,000 killed > US WWII ~300,000
Is either figure greater than the population of England, Scotland and
Wales? I don't think so...
Let's look, shall we?
<url:http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/uk.html>
Population: 58,970,119 (July 1998 est.)
Age structure:
0-14 years: 19% (male 5,832,086; female 5,530,679)
15-64 years: 65% (male 19,304,762; female 19,032,024)
65 years and over: 16% (male 3,807,710; female 5,462,858)
Just taking the population alive a year ago that was 5 or older before
1939, we see that the population was at *least* 9.2 million, and
probably significantly larger.
What part of 9.2 million >> 300,000 are you having difficulty
understanding? Your statement doesn't stand up to scrutiny very
well.
James
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From: naftali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:43:48 +0300
First of all, I never said I had any trouble, I said that compared to the
better distribution I have met, SuSe is bad, I did install it, I did it even
successfully,*how about that*, and believe it or not, if SuSe was the first
Linux distribution I came across I wouldn't have complained, and had anyone
asked me what distribution to get I would have said Suse,
BUT
Suse was not my first distribution, I came across many and it is the worst of
the bunch, THATS what I said.
for example, emacs which is a basic package works alot faster on Redhat, and I
do mean Alot faster, yes I know its inconcievable, because the kernels are
virtually the same, and they probably both got the emacs from GNU but I am
stating this as a tested fact.
Im not just talking from this aspect, I got the 2 distributions to try them out 'I
got both distributions ( redhat and Suse), Suse was new to me so I went to their web
site http://www.suse.de/e/ or something like that, and I saw what
kind of packages they carry and I must say I was impressed, so impressed that
I decided to install Suse 6.1 instead of RH6. and I was bitterly disappointed.
About how you describe the installation, I know that procedure, but I measured
also the amount of time it takes for each distribution to install, and the Suse
numbers went WAY off the scale in that area. the one good thing about the Yast
is that it gives alot more time in the bash tty2 shell, which is very helpful
and also it spans the mounting tree, and the directory tree in general better
than redhat, but these are trivial aspects .
Im not saying SuSe is bad, Im saying redhat is much much better, faster,
and much more friendly.
the question in this newsgroup was ... should i exchange redhat for SuSe I said
no. I may have used blunt words.
now with reference to this letter, you dont measure a distribution in the good cases,
if you have 196 MB of ram, thats alot, you have to be bill gates to go wrong there, I
am talking about the more signular cases, when I installed it at
home on my pc, with limited Ram and aside Win95, I promise you it will take alot of
time, and red hat does take only 40 minutes.
%Well I don't know why you had so much trouble with SuSE 6.1.
%I have 196MB ram and a 2nd HD of 10.5GB dedicated to my Linux.
%When I installed SuSE 6.1 I asked for a "full install" of "all" packages.
%Don't know if I will ever use all the stuff, but with 10.5GB of disk, who cares.
%The install went flawlessly and only took about 35-40 minutes. That might
%seem like a long time but some 1100+ packages and about 4.3GB of
%data from 4 cd's were copied and installed on my system. All my hardware
%was recognized and was up and running w/o any problems.
%
%To each his own I guess......
%
%...cwa
%
%
%naftali wrote:
%
%> I used SUSE 6.1, and I would like to mention it is one big piece of crap.
%> first of all it is really REALLY slow. on the same computer I managed to
%> get emacs working at half the run time on Redhat 6 and 5, than I did on SUSE,
%> and I am not a novice and I went through alot of distributions including slackware,
and I must say, SUSE was the worst I've seen so far, also their installing
%> procedure is highly uninformative and takes forever, on Redhat the installation
%> took 40 minutes om SUSe it took 2.5 hours for the same type of installation.
%>
%> SUSE has some good merits:
%> 1) as said before it does have alot of new software
%> 2) its global initiation files are highly documented and informative.
%> 3) it comes with a very detailed installation instructions on the cover.
%>
%> BUT in my VERY humble opition
%>
%> 1) since the files are in RPM format you can just use rpm -i under redhat and
install all the software you require.
%> 2) you can download all the files you wanna install out of the internet
%> 3) if you need highly detailed installation instructions on the cover, maybe you
should have someone else install the linux for you.
%>
%> to put a long story short....
%>
%> Stick to red-hat
%>
%> %On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Warren Bell wrote:
%> %
%> %> I've been running RedHat 5.2 and am wondering how SuSE Linux is. It
%> %> seems to have a lot of the same features and RPM format. Is it just as
%> %> good as RH? Better?
%> %> I just want to make sure SuSE is a good OS and works well. It seems to
%> %> be packed with features and apps for about half the price of RH 6.0.
%> %
%> %Suse is not an OS. Linux is the OS - no matter which distro you use.
%> %Don't think it's worth reinstalling Linux w/o specific reasons. Or would
%> %you simply reinstall because the new distro might have a better
%> %installation procedure ???
%> % Gerald
%> %
%> %
%> %
%
%--
%-------------------------------------------------------------------
%The box said 'WIN95/98 or better.' so I installed LINUX!
%
%Definition of Windows 95:
%A 32 bit upgrade to 16 bit extensions for an 8 bit operating system
%designed to run on a 4 bit processor by a 2 bit company that
%doesn't like 1 bit of competition.
%
%
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PHONE 050-667528
you can view my homepage at : http://surf.to/BookVision
MY BELIEFE:
If you don't have time to do it right, where are you going to find the
time to do it over?
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: system.map
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:24:55 -0400
I'm running 2.2.9 on RH6.0 and I didn't change the module-info file.
That's not to say we shouldn't, it's just because I didn't know what to do.
All is well though.
Ricky J. Sethi wrote:
> Along these lines, does anyone know about the module-info file? Does that
> need to be changed also when doing an update (e.g., from 2.2.5 to 2.2.10)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick.
>
> Sigurdur Hannesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> > I have just installed a new kernel (2.2.9) and all is well until I
> > reboot the machine it complaines about the system.map referencing
> > a different version. The system.map points to system.map-2.2.5-15
> > which is the original kernel(RedHat 6.0). I have changed kernels often
> but
> > this error is a first. I did all the ordinary things(make mrproper, make
> > xfonfig,
> > make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install,
> > vi /etc/lilo.conf, lilo).
> > Any ideas??
> >
> > regards,
> > Siggi
> >
> >
> >
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From: scable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sound problems
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 14:04:20 -0500
An addendum to my previous cry for help:
> I have a Sound Blaster AWE64 card and am running RH6.0
> There are alot of things I can't do with the sound,
Ran sndconfig. It detected the card OK (Sound Blaster AWE64 PnP)
and tried to configure it. Everything looked OK until it tried to
play a sound sample. Then it gave me:
sh: insmod: command not found
sound: No such file or directory
sound: No such file or directory
Went into manual configuration. All the card settings looked like
the default settings in the sound card manual. Played around with
the IRQ and the I/O Port a little just for the heck of it, but no
change in results.
Anybody know what I can do from here?
Thanks.
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:55:08 +0000
Jon Skeet wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Exactly *what* do you define WWII as? The war against Germany began
> > when Britain and France declared war. As far as I am concerned, WWII
> > began when the US declared war on Japan and Germany declared war on
> > the US.
>
> Presumably this means that as far as you're concerned, any wars in which
> the US didn't participate never happened at all. How lovely it must be to
> live in a world with a more peaceful history than the real one.
>
He may have been thinking in terms of having Asia as a theater. But the
Japanese were already fighting there before they attacked the Americans.
>
> --
> Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
--
Colin R. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] alt.atheist #1500
What Linux and atheism have in common, that which their
advocates most energetically embrace and their detractors
most vociferously vilify, is that they both encourage
an independent view of the world.
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: No Xvidtune in RH 6.0???
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:28:47 -0400
/etc/X11/XF86Config
No need to rerun XF86Setup. Just use any text editor and enter the settings from
xvidtune by hand.
Charles P Koerner wrote:
> Ed,
> I'm hoping you have the answer by now. I had problems in 5.2 and now in 6.0.
> My display is 1/2" larger than the monitor. When I use "xvidtune" I can get
> the corrected numbers, but where do they go?
> Actually it is " /usr/X11R6/bin/xvidtune" Exactly. I don't think there is
> any "Xvidtune". It works, but like I said, I dont know what makes it
> permanent. I'm running GNOME. I like it and it was the first thing that came
> up.
> Pete
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote:
>
> > What happened to Xvidtune that used to be in 5.2? I just installed 6.0
> > today and am amazed at how well it went, or at least I thought. How do you
> > adjust the position and size of the picture after you set up X? Oh, the
> > pain. When will it end? I thought I was on my way to becoming a seasoned
> > linux user till I got 6.0. Thanks.
> >
> > Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps?
Date: 8 Jul 1999 22:14:49 GMT
In article <_sQg3.81$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brett R. Rosselle wrote:
>Does anybody know of a good site that has an abundance of Linux apps that
>are not X based? I am running Slackware 4.0 on some machines without X (disk
>space & video limitations).
Freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/, use a mirror) has an index of a lot of
command line applications. Exactly what are you looking for, maybe we
could make recommendations?
Gergo
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From: Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: linx vs hurd
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:16:39 -0400
Following up on the database vs filesystem question, I have a friend
who hates the utter redundancy between applications (even unix
applications). His notion was to build a file system could be
trivially used as a database as well (without requiring the
specialized access that databases require, i.e., SQL, although you
could layer that on I suppose).
His notion was that such a file system would consist of only
directories, no files, that is, a directed graph where any leaf node
can become a branch node. Moreover, allow nodes to cross-link, rather
like a directory hard-linking to another directory, so it's more of a
cyclic directed graph than an acyclic one.
If such low level information storage systems were actually worked
out, I think theoretically we could generalize databases, file
systems, web servers, etc. (One possible basis for this abstraction,
as it occurs to me now, is a grove in the HyTime sense).
--
.....Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chet Ramey)
Subject: Re: RH6, bash, command-line editing
Date: 8 Jul 1999 19:13:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dave Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just installed RH6. When I tried to turn on command-line
>editing, "set -o vi", it doesn't work. Hitting the <esc>
>key causes a <beep>, and then typing the <k> key does not
>retrieve the previous command.
>
>Any quick fixes before I trash the installation? (Other than
>that, it installed pretty nicely... even installed "freecell"!)
It's a bug in the distributed /etc/inputrc. It only works for
emacs mode editing. When in vi mode, it trashes the key binding
for ESC, which is used to switch between insert and command modes.
--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
( ``Discere est Dolere'' -- chet)
Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stephen Chadfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't eliminate Netscape error message
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:21:23 +0100
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> I am using Netscape Communicator 4.6 under Redhat 6.0
> which I recently upgraded to. I want it just to read
> news, since I handle my mail another way. I keep getting
> a Netscape error message saying
>
> Netscape is unable to use the mail server because you have
> not provided a username. Please provide one in the
> preferences and try again.
>
> I've checked preferences and put a username and identity
> information everywhere I can, but I can't get rid of the
> message. This is while reading news. Previous versions
> of netscape don't seem to have had this problem.
>
> Can anyone tell me what is going on and what if anything
> I can do about it?
Either install the standalone version of Netscape or:
Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Mail Servers
and change the default "Incoming Mail Server" from POP3 to movemail and
switch off mail checking.
--
Stephen Chadfield
http://www.aquamarine.demon.co.uk/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hotdog)
Subject: Re: Help for MODEM - Why can't Linux to be built with supprot for Winmodem?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:59:11 GMT
After seeing all those posts regarding winmodems' disqualification.
Why can't Linux be built with support for Windmodem.
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From: Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Saving KDE environment upon logout
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 14:44:13 -0400
For some odd reason, when I shutdown the KDE gui,
applications that I used to have up and running no
longer re-open when I re-start KDE.
For example...
I have six virtual screens. In the main screen,
I have two terminals open, xosview, a netlog monitor,
and perhaps ICQ or something along that line.
In another window, I have Netscape, and in yet another,
Netscape mail.
All of these (except Netscape mail) would restart
every time I logged out and restarted KDE.
Now, nothing restarts. Not even the terminals,
which should, by all accounts, restart, as they
are (according to my KDE logout screen, KDE aware!)
If anyone might be able to suggest to me how to save
this information so it would automatically re-pop when
I re-start KDE, I would greatly appreciate such!
Much thanks to anyone who can assist.
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