Linux-Misc Digest #144, Volume #21 Sat, 24 Jul 99 05:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to use lpr -s switch? -r doesn't work.... ("Eric")
Re: Good Linux book for Red Hat Linux 5.2 (Helge Dahl)
Re: Gnome and redhat 6.0 problem???? (ryan)
Re: Enhanced version of ftp (like FreeBSD has) (Frank v Waveren)
Nutrient Counter App? (Orit Shacham)
Re: Full Paths (Darryl L. Pierce)
Re: Using rcp and rsh on machines in different subnets (Alexander Viro)
Re: How do you pronounce "LINUX"?? (J Rappe)
Re: Dial up problem (Darryl L. Pierce)
Mozilla and SuSE Linux (Kerschbaumer Samuel)
Re: I want to run Gnome/Enlightenment w/RH 6.0, but I have config (Me Here)
Re: star office (Me Here)
Re: What I think of linux. (Lindoze 2000)
How to make a -lpthread app core dump? (Matt Wallace)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Peter Seebach)
Re: Enhanced version of ftp (like FreeBSD has) (Stefan Ehlen)
Re: netscape (James Stafford)
Re: I f*cking don't believe it! (was: Marx vs. Nozick) (Robert Voppmann)
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to use lpr -s switch? -r doesn't work....
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 05:46:13 GMT
<snip>
>Now as to how to delete the file after it has been printed. I have an
>idea, but I can't test it. I don't have a Linux compatable printer, so
>I can't print. But on the "lpr" command, there is a -m option. This
>appears to make the lpd daemon send an email to the submitting user
>when the printing is complete. I don't know what this message looks
>like, but I would bet that you could read the mail with a program and
>delete the file mentioned within it. I would look into this futher, but
>as I said, I don't have a printer.
Thanks for the idea... I may be able to use that somehow. The question now
becomes how to automatically detect this mail upon reception. The best I
can come up with is a cron job that checks for mail every hour and then
deletes all files printed within that hour. Unless there is another way to
automatically detect new mail and spawn a script to read the mail. Is there
someway to use something like the vacation program for that purpose?
Here's the mail from the lpr mail:
<start mail>
From bin Sat Jul 24 01:41:20 1999
Return-Path: <bin>
Received: (from bin@localhost)
by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA21839
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:41:19 -0400
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:41:19 -0400
From: bin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lp printer job "errors"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your printer job (errors)
completed successfully
<end mail>
So it seems it wouldn't be difficult to parse the subject line for the file
name, but I'm not sure how to automatically start such a script upon
reception of mail.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Helge Dahl)
Subject: Re: Good Linux book for Red Hat Linux 5.2
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 05:56:38 GMT
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:56:46 GMT, JHS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have searched Amazon.com for a worthy Linux book for Red Hat 5.2, but
>every one listed has problems. I'm looking for an excellent book that
>a beginner-intermediate level user can use. Can somebody recommend a
>great book for learning Linux?
>
>Thanks,
>
I started out with "A Practical Guide To Linux" by Mark G. Sobell,
which is a general users guide to Linux.
Another good book is "RedHat Linux Secrets" from IDG Books.
Helge Dahl
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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Gnome and redhat 6.0 problem????
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:11:54 -0400
root wrote:
> I got a problem for the gnome under redhat6.0. After the
> installation finished, all the nice background
> images disappeared under the gnome configuration program(e-conf). Is
> there anyone know which
> particular rpm package I should install in order to get back those nice
> background images??? Thanks a lot,
> later.
Actually, it looks to me like you are confusing gnome with your window
manager - since you refer to 'e-conf' I think you are using enlightenment.
This is kind of misleading at first, but there are actually two
configuration tools for this setup (this is the default gnome setup as far
as I know).
'E-conf' is for enlightenment, while gnome has it's own control-panel. If
you use both control panels, the enlightenment background will only show
up when you start X. It will quickly be replaced by the background you
choose in the gnome control panel. On a fast machine with an accelerated
video card and the right kernel you might not even see the 'e-conf'
background.
I have not found a way to change the background for individual desktops in
gnome, and while there is a desktop number pull-down for that purpose in
enlightenment, I have never been able to get it to work.
Hope this helps.
Ryan T. Rhea
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank v Waveren)
Subject: Re: Enhanced version of ftp (like FreeBSD has)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 07:17:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Salman Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> At work, all of our UNIX machines are FreeBSD boxes. I
> however run Linux on my FreeBSD box (dual-boot) and
> occasionally I have to transfer files b/w my Linux box and
> other BSD boxes.
>
> I noticed that FreeBSD (our version is 2.2.8 I think) has a
> really nice version of the ftp command - it shows a progress
> bar (like hash mark printing), along with a percentage estimate,
> and a throughput rate indicator, and an ETA display showing
> how much time is remaining to complete the transfer - all in
> text mode.
>
> Is there a similar version/type of ftp for Linux ? I am running
> RedHat 5.2 soon planning to run Debian 2.1.
NCFTP has it all. Really quite nice.
--
Frank v Waveren
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From: Orit Shacham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nutrient Counter App?
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:01:27 GMT
Anybody know of a nutrient counter (aka diet diary, aka food log) app
for Linux?
Orit
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darryl L. Pierce)
Subject: Re: Full Paths
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:35:06 GMT
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:04:06 -0500, "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
;I either don't understand the answers or I didn't ask the quetion properly.
;If I change directories into a directory such as " cd /usr/russ/" then once
;inside the directory there is a program called fast, when i type "fast" it
;says "bash: fast: command not found" but if I type "/usr/russ/fast" the
;program will work. I don't see why I should have to add /usr/russ to the
;path, if in side the directory wanting to run the program. I have never had
;this problem till my recent upgrade.
That is because, unlike DOS & OS/2, *nix doesn't include the current directory
in the search path. The reason you're typing './' before a command is that
you're telling *nix that you want to run the file in the current directory (./
= current directory).
Is mise le meas,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Using rcp and rsh on machines in different subnets
Date: 24 Jul 1999 02:03:02 -0400
In article <7nbjml$od9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrey Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Each user that needs to be able to rlogin or rcp from one system to another
>(no matter which subnet they are on, as long as they can reach each other)
>has to have .rhosts file in their home directory (/home/user.rhosts) on the
>target system.
Better yet, use ssh instead of rlogin. *If* you really want to have a .rhosts
- at least make sure that it doesn't grow out of control (your control, that
is). If it is located on ufs or ext2 - make it immutable. Or run a cron job
that will purge all unauthorized crap from them and send nastygrams if crap
had been found. User-editable .rhosts is the breakin waiting to happen.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Rappe)
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce "LINUX"??
Date: 24 Jul 1999 07:01:09 GMT
It's spelt "Linux" but it's pronounced "throat-warbler-mangrove". Hope
this helps!
--
-john Finally the day came when I did desparately want a job.
jrappe@ I needed it. Not having another minute to lose,
bigfoot. I decided that I would take the last job on earth,
com that of messenger boy. -- Henry Miller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darryl L. Pierce)
Subject: Re: Dial up problem
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:38:06 GMT
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:07:13 -0700, "Charley Wen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
;Hi,
;
;i'm a newbie in the Linux world. I found that after I dialed up my ISP using
;Kppp and the connection was successfully established, I couldn't telnet a
;remote server in KConsole, neither could I use Communicator to surf the net.
;I CAN ping the IP address of my ISP server though! So, I'm wondering what's
;the problem here or if there's any additional step I missed (under ms
;windows, I can telnet or browser right after the connection was made so I
;assume it's the same case under Linux)? Thanks for any help in advance
Did you setup any of your ISP's nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf?
Is mise le meas,
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| Darryl L. Pierce, Software Engineer @ IBM RTP |
| Resource Solutions, Int'l http://www.resourcesolutions.com/ |
| Voice: (919) 254-4583 Fax: (919) 543-7288 T/L: 444-4583 |
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From: Kerschbaumer Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mozilla and SuSE Linux
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:40:46 +0200
I have downloaded the binariesof Mozilla M7. But if if
I want to start the program I become these errors:
sam@kerschbaumer:/opt/mozilla/package > run-mozilla.sh
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/opt/mozilla/package
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mozilla/package
MOZ_PROGRAM=viewer
moz_debug=0
moz_debugger=
Registered Ok
**************************************************
nsComponentManager: Load(/opt/mozilla/package/components/libnsjpg.so)
FAILED with error: libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
**************************************************
*** Registering html library
Going to create the event queue
**************************************************
nsComponentManager: Load(libwidgetgtk.so) FAILED with error:
/opt/mozilla/package/components/libnsjpg.so: undefined symbol:
QueryInterface__15nsJPGDecFactoryRC4nsIDPPv
**************************************************
./run-mozilla.sh: line 35: 3449 Speicherzugriffsfehler $prog ${1+"$@"}
Who can help me?
...Thanks!
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From: Me Here <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: I want to run Gnome/Enlightenment w/RH 6.0, but I have config
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:08:32 -0500
Tom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I should mention that I am currently running Linux on a Dell I700 laptop
> using the Xigraphics accellerated graphics drivers.
>
> I recently upgraded to RH 6.0, and I installed all of the related
> packages including the Elnightenment window manager. Enlightenment was
> not included in the "popup" menus area, so I assumed that I had to
> manually configure .Xclients etc. I looked in the provided documentation
> (HTML version) that came with RH 6.0 but that concerned using the
> Enlighenment window manager one it is configured. No real configuration
> info was given.
>
> I tried just running the enlightenment exicutable, which gave me a
> message claiming that it was not the default window manager (of course)
> and would I like to have my .Xclients and .xinit files written to
> reflect this. I clicked "yes" and the result was that X hung with a
> "pink" screen after I typed "startx". I went back and re-edited my
> .Xclients and .xinit so that I could get back my FVWM window Manager.
>
> To make a long story short, how do I configure Gnome and Enlightenment?
> Is there configuration information anywhere?
>
> Thanks
> Tom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
just use 'gnome-session' in whichever file you are using for startx
(.xinitrc in my case). Enlightenment is the default window manager for
gnome, so when gnome starts, it will start enlightenment until you specify
a different window manager.
good place to look for info: www.gnome.org
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From: Me Here <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: star office
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:17:04 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Robert J. Schweikert" wrote:
> So, I got Star ofiice downloaded and installed, but now what?
>
> I am using GNOME on RH6-0, what do I need to do to get this thing (Star
> Office) started? Where do I start looking?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> --
> Robert Schweikert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Start looking in the directory in which you installed it.
the executable is soffice, in my case, for example, it can be started by
executing the following:
/home/myhomedir/Office51/bin/soffice
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From: Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:20:24 -0400
that's not a challenge. I think just about everyone here (including
myself) agrees with you.
Groman wrote:
>
> I've just subcribed to several linux newsgroups and read a couple of posts,
> and I decided
> to write this small comment on how "I" feel about linux, I know nobody
> cares, but anyway...
>
> Linux is a great operating system, it is powerful, fast, relatively easy to
> use(to other UNICES and to Windoze etc.) I am saying it is easier to use
> compared to Windoze, because to do the same things you can do in Linux
> in Windoze you'll have to turn mountains upside down.(install freebie
> software that will crash your comp).
>
> Second reason, windoze costs about a $100, and doesn't come with anything
> useful. Linux on the other hand is free and comes with a trillions of
> zillions programs with it. and a lot more to download. no scary binaries!
> almost no viruses!(there are like 10 unix-based viruses on the record
> compared to 25000 of dos/windoze based, correct me if I am wrong).
>
> what is wrong with linux and why I use windoze to do routine things, like
> news posting and e-mail, though mostly I use linux for learning programming
> and well other stuff... well here it is:
> I like the whole idea of operating system by people for people, BUT
> There isn't a some kind of comitee, company, person, aritficial
> intellegence, that does the following:
> Organise the basic system so it will be same style output, output
> readable by everybody,
> compile the tons of documentation available in an avarage sized User
> Guide with readable
> english and easy to use reference tables. HOW-TOs and FAQs are
> not-organized, or
> organized in a form I don't understand(each unique individual, on any
> given point in time
> has his own limit of understanding something, you'll just have to accept
> that).
>
> Also, there should be a several modes of IO for the system itself, for
> example if
> IO Techie Level is 0, then during the boot it will display something
> like :
> Loading Linux Kernel.
> Loading Drivers.
> Starting services etc.
> but if IO Techie Level is like 10 it will output even more than it
> outputs now.
>
> When I first installed Red Hat 5.2, it installed really well, I was
> really surprised that it was faster and
> easier than install of Windoze 95. Then I booted and logged in, I liked
> it until I had to figure out something
> how to do something, I spent 3 days configuring my ppp(that's because I
> started with that without knowing
> anything about linux) ppp how-to was understandable but it didn't cover
> my problems, IRC chat rooms just
> sent me to hell, and newsgroups, well that's why it was 3 days :-)
> If there would've been a help program that contained the basics of Linux
> set-up(X,ppp,servers, etc.)
> in a easy-to-use interface, Linux is great only when you know how to use
> it. so to make Linux great for everybody you have to make learning
> how to use it easier. I have UNIX Unleashed book for 1500 pages, I
> don't have nor time nor patience to read that, but when I looked through the
> contents, it contained most things
> you need to use any Unix system. If the basics of that under Linux would
> fit on 300 pages, it would be great.
>
> wow, that's a long post. sorry to bother you with my useless and boring
> thoughts.
>
> groman. I spent 10 minutes writing this message, which I could've spent
> learning some assembly.
>
> bye, thanx for patience.
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From: Matt Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to make a -lpthread app core dump?
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 07:26:10 GMT
After adding some threading code to an app, I discovered that
things compiled in linux 2.0.36 w/ gcc and linked with -lpthreads
don't seem to want to dump core on SEGV. Anyone know how to stop
this core-less behavior?
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Matt Wallace -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:40:52 GMT
In article <7mvsjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Anthony D. Tribelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The distinguishing characteristic of competition is destruction. In
>> any situation that isn't destructive, you can easily assign greed or
>> cooperation as possible motives. The only time when the motive for
>> an action *must* be competition is when the action is destructive.
>Ignorant and silly. The Olympics contains an extremely high degree of
>competition and there is no destruction of the participants.
What about that chick who broke a leg doing gymnastics?
It's just a matter of time until her country retaliates. There's already
reports of people shooting at "targets" during the Olympics, and we all know
how dangerous a luge can be.
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ehlen)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Enhanced version of ftp (like FreeBSD has)
Date: 24 Jul 1999 07:56:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Salman Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I noticed that FreeBSD (our version is 2.2.8 I think) has a
> really nice version of the ftp command - it shows a progress
> bar (like hash mark printing), along with a percentage estimate,
> and a throughput rate indicator, and an ETA display showing
> how much time is remaining to complete the transfer - all in
> text mode.
>
> Is there a similar version/type of ftp for Linux ? I am running
> RedHat 5.2 soon planning to run Debian 2.1.
>
> Thanks for any info.
I suggest Midnight commander (mc). It's great, not only for ftp!
CU
Stefan
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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: netscape
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:54:32 -0700
> >
>
> try this site
>
> http://www.bluemountainarts.com
>
> choose the birthday cards
>
> then you go to the second page and choose "Happy birthday to you"
>
> Have fun!
>
> --
> use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
> use Linux for safe and quick internet access
> use Winblows to test the latest viruses
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.
Well, I just went there and besides complaining about not having an
x-audio plug-in everything worked alright. Is this what was supposed to
happen? Now, I would like to take the time for turning me on to this
great card sight! I love to make my own greeting cards, and doing so is
just about the only thing I have to use something other than Linux for.
Again thanks a lot,
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: Robert Voppmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: I f*cking don't believe it! (was: Marx vs. Nozick)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 09:36:50 +0100
Greg Yantz wrote:
> > Ever since I've started the argument you're all trying to
> > paint me as some foolish, naif idiot.
>
> No, the way we disagree with your statements has been doing that.
> [...]
> Sure. You have. Repeatedly. Noone is stopping you. We're just disagreeing
> with you.
>
> > On the other hand, one tries to make me look like a fool by playing
> > stupid little games and making insulting allusions and implications all
> > of the time.
>
> Disagreeing with you is a problem?
>
Greg, that's fine, that you are trying to cool down the argument. But you're
insulting M. again by trying to show that his feelings have no reason to be
sought in the discussion as such.
In fact, you are *not*just* disagreeing -- you are expressing your disagreement
in *your* way. And if that entails the repeated mentioning of obviousities than
you /imply/ that the other party was not or refused to be aware of them. Such an
implication can well be interpreted as an insult, especially if it feels that it
isn't true or based on anything.
I found your discussion quite interesting, but sometimes it just tends to go in
circles (rather than spirals).
If one thinks one has to bring up an argument again, then it is one's own
responsibility to clearly point out the new context/ the new dimension that it
is presented in.
Even though I tend to agree more with M.W. I would think it a pity if any of you
would stop the argument.
regards,
r.
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