Linux-Misc Digest #144, Volume #19               Mon, 22 Feb 99 21:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Sniper)
  Re: how to change permission bit on vfat partition? (digs)
  Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ???? (Rod Roark)
  problem installing debian from CD-rom SONY CDU33a (Jeroen Valcke)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Bill Vermillion)
  Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Alan McLean)
  Re: linux sucks, windows is cool, lets get a million posts to my  juvenile arguments 
 !!!! (Matthias Warkus)
  HELP!!  syslogd tbl in 2.2.1
  Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Jim McCusker)
  Re: Canon BJ-10EX in epson mode... (Sam Vere)
  Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1 (Sam Vere)
  Redhat 5.2 & Linksys EtherPCI LanCard II Problems PLEASE HELP!! (Daniel Koerner)
  Re: Disable CTL-Chars (^C) in shells script? (M Sweger)
  Re: Star Office - Registration????? (Esa Tikka)
  Re: Network applications (bklimas)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: WindowMaker-0.51.0-1 Install Problems (James H Timberlake, III)
  Re: Where to get link/unlink command? (M Sweger)
  Re: Firewall with 1 IP (jedi)
  Been bashed and kshed (garv)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sniper)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:41:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 19 Feb 1999 15:05:43 -0800, Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Thomas Joynt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>     1) Games generally use bleeding-edge technology that is by it's very
>> nature unstable and error prone. They're often trying to do something "new and
>> improved", which means *unproved*.
>
>There's also a different attitude to games programmers.  Back when I
>used Amiga a lot, there were often games that kicked out the OS,
>require rebooting of the game, broke when run on later models of the
>machine, refused to use or be installed on a hard disk (no matter how
>good the game, having to shutdown the system and reboot from floppy is
>going to make you hate it), etc.  And inevitably, the developers would
>defend this practice as being perfectly appropriate.  They'd say
>things like "but we have to get the fastest speed possible, otherwise
>you wouldn't play the game", and ironically, they'd be saying that
>about games that didn't look all that cpu intensive.

The thing for me, is when I can play TOmb raider 4, shogo 2 and Chess
by email all on linux, then I can really ditch MS.
"What's the difference between a nail, a screw and a bolt ?" the woodwork
teacher asked the only girl in the class during the first day of school.
She pondered the question for a moment, then replied, "Well, I can't rightly
say as I know, 'cause I ain't never been 'bolted'."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (digs)
Subject: Re: how to change permission bit on vfat partition?
Date: 23 Feb 1999 01:10:22 GMT

cat /etc/fstab

/dev/hda2    /vfat   vfat    defaults,user,umask=002,gid=100,unhide,quiet  0 0
In comp.os.linux.misc, Te-Cheng Shen spake unto us saying:
>Hi, there
>    I have a problem about chmod.
>
>    I installed both Win95 and RedHat 5.2 on two different hd.
>    Now I try to enable the permission bit on my vfat partition so that
>ALL users can read and write on that partition. I issued this command
>
>chmod -R a+rwx /mnt/e
>
>    Unfortunately, the permission is always       rwxr-xr-x, how can I
>enable the write permission bit on vfat partition?
>
>Thanks
>
>Shen
>
>email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


-- 
later on,
digs

work hard & make your mother proud

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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ????
Date: 23 Feb 1999 00:19:59 GMT

Sniper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>2. What can I use application wise that's not going to involve a huge
>leap from Office ? and provide backwards compatibility with Word and
>Excel 97 ?

I would suggest that before deciding to switch to open source
software, you first decide if you're willing to give up document 
formats that are encrypted, proprietary and secret.  You won't be 
happy with Linux otherwise.

If you've gotta have some MS Windows apps, get a separate machine
for Linux and talk to it from the Windows machine via an X server.
That way you get the best of both worlds without leaving your chair,
and others in your office can concurrently use the same Linux box.

-- Rod
======================================================================
Sunset Systems                           Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/                         Starting at $499
======================================================================

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From: Jeroen Valcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian,linux.debian.user,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: problem installing debian from CD-rom SONY CDU33a
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:19:27 -0800

Hey,

I'm a newbie trying to install debian on my old 486 which has a SONY
CDU33a cd-rom this is not a IDE cd-rom, instead the cd-rom is connected
with a host adapter card.
When I installed debian I had to use a diskette called drv1440.bin to
load the appropriate module, which I did correctly. The troubles begin
when I reboot my machine and want to run dselect to continue installing
the software. When I reboot I clearly see the following line " loading
modules cdu31a " So this is ok. But when I look at /dev I can't find any
reference to the cdrom instead, and this is very weird, I find a file
cdu535. cdu535 is an other type of SONY cdrom, but I haven't loaded a
module for this one. How is this possible?
When I run dselect I have to choose Acces method. I then choose cdrom. I
get following question "Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device
name []:" I have no idea what to answer, since cdu31 isn't in /dev.
I can also choose "mounted" as an acces method but then I have no idea
how to mount the cdrom (cdu33 that is)

Anybody has a solution. Any suggestions.
All help greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance

-Jeroen-




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Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:44:05 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
NF Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson) wrote:

....

>Does the BSD style license seek to prevent the a commercial venture
>such as Red Hat/SuSE etc etc from making a profit from disributing
>free software? Even if it did I doubt that such a restriction would be
>enforceable. I conclude the lack of such a venture for BSD licenced
>software is not due to some enabling mechanism in the GPL, but to
>the lack of demand for such a service.

Well BSDI works from the same original source tree.  They are
definately commercial.  Typically $500 and up with full support.
Many ISPs use it.

>Are all the possibilities of making a profit from support services etc
>available for with software which has a BSD style licence? Does
>any BSD style license contain a paragraph prohibiting charging for
>support services?

The copyright notice in the BSD sources from UCB boil down to
4 points.

1. Redistribution of source code must include the license - under
        50 lines of text.
2. Redistribution of binary must include the license in paper or 
        other form.
3. UCB must be given credit if mentioning features or use
4. You can not use their name to endorse it.


Other than that you can do with it as you will.

-- 
Bill Vermillion   bv @ wjv.com 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:44:07 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:47:30 -0300...
..and Felipe \"RaPPa\" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> use gnome with enlightenment
> www.gnome.org/ftpmirrors.html
> they are beta, but "beta quality software" told rasterman
> hehe
> I use it, and is the best, I'm sure...
> KDE and GNOME are two wms,

You couldn't be any more wrong. KDE and Gnome are not window managers.

mawa
-- 
The most delightful day after the one on which you buy a cottage in
the country is the one on which you resell it.
                -- J. Brecheux

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan McLean)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:16:54 GMT

Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >The cool thing about the BSD license is that developers can add to
> >the free software base and effectively make capital investments
> >in it.  GPL licensing excludes that.
> 
> Good, John.
> 
> That's what it's _designed_ to do.  So shut up, you're just arguing that
> it's working exactly the way it's _supposed_ to work. 
> 
> Some of us consider it important that you don't lose information due to
> fragmentation and proprietary code, like UNIX historically did, and the
> BSD's seem to be doing now. 
> 
> And we all _know_ you want to make money using other peoples code, and
> that's part of why I'm really happy you aren't using GPL'd code.  I just
> wish you'd also shut up about the fact that you're so unhappy about not
> being able to sell other peoples code without giving them something
> back. 
> 
> The GPL is based on the idea of mutual benefit - "symbiosis" to you
> biology people.  The idea behind symbiosis is that different entities
> bring different qualities to the whole, and everybody benefits. 
> 
> What you advocate is called parasitism in biology.  It works too, but
> it's not exactly pretty.  And I don't see why you're so damn proud of
> it. 
> 
>                       Linus

Well said!

Many use the GPL because it encourages intellectual sharing,
"symbiosis" as it was put.

Many developers who use the GPL are not anti-capitolism.
They are not prevented from using their _own_work_ in other
endeavors.  The GPL enables participation in intellectual
sharing with others, while preventing some from exploiting
the work unfairly.

You seem very concerned about the "2nd tier" developers,
but if _they_ want to leverage my work for commercial
purpose, shouldn't they work something out with me?  Are they
really entitled to have me or anyone else work for 
_free_?  (to use a very over-loaded word ;)

-amcl

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: linux sucks, windows is cool, lets get a million posts to my  juvenile 
arguments  !!!!
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:45:13 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:43:12 -0800...
..and Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >     why is it that when someone posts a rediculous argument as to why
> > windows is great and linux is crap. that there is a million posts in reply.
> > ...
> >    sorry to be preachy but when you pay 3p per min to connect to the
> >internet its a pain in the arse to have to download this troll!
> 
> Don't read crap.
> 
> "Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this."
> 
> "Then don't do it."

"Or do it on comp.os.linux.advocacy, at least."

mawa
-- 
So being a network guru qualifies you to 'judge' all OSes, and to
predict that Linux won't work because Netscape fails on your machine?
I don't think so.
                                 -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP!!  syslogd tbl in 2.2.1
Date: 21 Feb 1999 14:21:07 -0600

I am running 2.2.1 on a Toshiba 335CDS.  When I start it, I get a message
that "/dev/log" is an invalid argument.  Also the pasux mouse doesn't 
work.  Kernel 2.0.35 works fine.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

. 


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From: Jim McCusker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:17:27 -0500

Matt O'Toole wrote:
> 
> Chris Lee wrote in message <7ap964$cep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> 
> >If Mandrake were to do something as stupid as you suggest, they and
> >their users would become the laughing stock of the linux/unix world.
> 
> This reminds me of high school, when kids who drove cars with automatic
> transmissions were laughed at, because they "couldn't drive."
> 
> Most people grow out of that nonsense.

I think that the point is that if a distro were to include a couple of
extra user accounts that are *always* set up the same way, then it would
be very easy to find someone who has not bothered to either delete or
modify those accounts. Of course, the distro could ask the user if they
want to set up user accounts, and then ask for passwords, etc. or
randomly generate passwords.

Jim
-- 
    Jim McCusker | Class of '99, BA Computer Science & Cognitive Science
     [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect
  ~Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.~
                                                          ~~Henry
Spencer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Vere)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Canon BJ-10EX in epson mode...
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:09:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 22 Feb 1999 13:16:25 -0500, Grant Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Nigel Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'm a bit confused as to why my printer setup works- it's also a
>> BJ-10e, set up under printtool.  I set up WordPerfect to print
>> PassThru Postscript (as it doesn't have a BJ-10e driver), and it
>> just worked! Why is that?  Is there a HOWTO somewhere which will
>> tell me how Linux handles printing?
>
>But of course.  URL in .sig.
>
>Printtol configured a queue for you in lpd (the spooling program), and
>installed the driver needed to "filter" what you spool, so that you
>can just spool the Postscript generated by most Unix-style software
>and have the right thing appear on your printer.
>
>With a Canon Bubblejet, the filter uses Ghostscript to interpret the
>Postscript and produce the epson-style printer commands needed to
>actually drive your printer.
>
>The actual Red Hat packages involved are "lpd", "rhs-printfilters",
>"gs", and "printtool".

Right. I'm on SuSE 6.0, mind.

I do know that there is said to be an issue with the BJ-10ex.

Leastways it gets a mention in the Printing Howto...

I'll work on it a bit more...

 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Vere)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:09:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 22 Feb 1999 14:54:15 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ciaran J Anscomb)
wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Sam Vere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:46:12 -0800, Tim Moore
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> [Sam wrote:]
>>>> Firstly, the kernel sound support for the Ensoniq AudioPci appears not
>>>> to work for .au files. Any ideas?
>>>
>>>Do you really think there is kernel code for .au support?
>>
>>Dunno, but it worked back when I was using OSS...
>
>As indeed it should.  It's noted in Documentation/sound/es137? that .au
>file (ALaw/uLaw) support isn't in that driver.  If the AudioPCI is based
>on one of those, these files just won't work catted directly - try using
>sox 'play' (or similar) instead.
>
>>>Clues available at www.linuxhq.com.
>
>And clues to you in the documentation.

Ah. My problem is I don't always have to time to read *all* the
documentation. That was one of the bits I missed.

Thanks again.

 
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From: Daniel Koerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Redhat 5.2 & Linksys EtherPCI LanCard II Problems PLEASE HELP!!
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:30:41 GMT

Hi Folks,

Here's my setup:

- Linux Redhat 5.2 with 2.0.36 kernel.
- Generic NE2000 Ethernet card (detected by Linux, connected to
Internet   and working fine)
- Linksys Combo EtherPCI LanCard II (not detected, not working)

OK, I've been trying to configure a second net card on my Linux machine
so that I can setup IP Masquerading.  I have read and re-read all of the
relevent FAQs & HOW-TOs in regards to Ethernet & IP Masquerading setup.

The first net card (Generic NE2000 which is connected to my cable modem)
is working perfectly in Linux.  It is detected on boot as eth0 and
assigned an IRQ and Base Address just fine.

The second card is a different story.  It is a Linksys Combo EtherPCI
Lan Card II.  According to the HOW-TOs I have read and the Linksys
website, this card should work with the generic ne2000 driver (ne.o).  I
have tried every different combination of things I can think of to get
this bugger working to no avail.  I have the following in my
/etc/conf.modules:

alias eth0 tulip
alias eth1 ne

I even tried this:

alias eth0 tulip
alias eth1 ne
options ne io=0x6800 irq=12

...this didn't work either.

I have also tried adding an append line in my lilo.conf:

append="ether=12,0x6800,eth1"

(I also made sure I typed "lilo" at the prompt and rebooted after doing
this)

...no dice, again.

Now, when I reboot, eth0 shows up in the boot log just fine as always. 
However, no matter what I do, eth1 will not show up.  If I do this:

modprobe eth1 dmesg | tail

I get:

ne.c:v1.10 9/23/94 Donald becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x6800:00 20 78 10 13 4b
eth1: NE2000 found at 0x6800, using IRQ 12

So apparently it is able to detect the net card.  Why won't it detect it
at boot and why won't the netcard work, though?

If anybody has any ideas on this or experience with this card, please
let me know.  I'm desperately in need of getting IP Masquerading going
as soon as possible.  Please feel free to email any replies directly to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks a lot,
Daniel Koerner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Disable CTL-Chars (^C) in shells script?
Date: 21 Feb 1999 19:47:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

M Sweger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: M Sweger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: : Hi,

: :  Can anybody tell me if it is possible to disable the ^C/^S/^Q/^Y  etc
: : in a shell script? I'm trying to write a shell script that is a user menu
: : drive script and would like to for the user to exit the program correctly and no 
:force their way out by doing a ^C command.


: : Thanks.    WHat would the command sequence look like?
: : Can this be done for all shell language types, ie. Bourne, Csh,tchs,ksh,...


: : --
: :     Mike,
: :     [EMAIL PROTECTED]


: --
:       Mike,
:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
        Mike,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: Star Office - Registration?????
Date: 21 Feb 1999 19:03:42 GMT

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:04:50 GMT, Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> After I had installed Star Office 5.0 when I run it the first screen 
>was to
>> register the software - after filling in the info the program went to 
>the
>> registration site, fetched and installed the registration codes.
>
>Exactly! I don�t see what could possibly go wrong with such a simple 
>procedure. IMHO StarDivision made it fool-proof.

As the one who asked this said the _setup_ wanted a key, I assumed that he
meant the key which enables installation (was it called personal key?) and
thus he can't even see the dialog where can StarDivision's site be
contacted for registering.
That's how I understood it.

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From: bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Network applications
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:28:51 GMT

Sylvain Gauthier wrote:

> In a Firm
>
> Does Linux offer the same possibilities has Windows for Network
> applications?
>
> Please help.
> Thanks

It seems to me rather obvious that the networking capabilities
of Linux vastly exceed whatever Windows has to offer. With X
windows, you can run a program located anywhere in the network
and display on any other network terminal. You can also share
any directory across network to run remotely located program
locally.

On the down side, there are not as many office appications for Linux
as for Windows. So before considering Linux you have to check if
what you would like to run is available.

There is however third, better solution. Leave your Win95 machines
alone and let them run your word or whatever you run. Setup a Linux
computer or two as a server(s) for printing, filesharing, net access,
e-mail, fileserving, etc.  Samba will let you do it with no problems.

Hope it helps. I am a Linux newbie myself, so take it for what's worth.

Best regards,

b.k.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 13:55:56 -0600

In article <j0sz2.5539$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:05:16 GMT, Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:56:34 -0500, Robert S. Sciuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>the turn of the century ... it takes away others rights to derive
>>>proprietary products.  That is something to which I cannot subscribe.
>>
>>What rights are those, exactly?
>
>It is an interesting assertion that people have some inherent "right" or
>"entitlement" or other such notion of "expectation" to make use of
>software in whatever way they like.

Interesting as well as correct, assuming you have legally obtained
a copy of the software in question without agreeing to license
restrictions.  Copyright restricts the distribution, but not
the use of software.

>It is not generally borne out in most of the licenses used for different
>sorts of intellectual properties; most licenses relating to things
>regarded as "intellectual property" have fairly stringent criteria as to
>what may be done with derivative works.

If both parties agree, licenses can impose all sorts of restrictions.
But, agreeing must be a requirement of obtaining the copy if it is
to be universally effective.  The license has nothing inherently
to do with the product - it is possible, if not common, to arrange
different licenses for every user. 

>The claim that people should be entitled (on some inherent basis) to
>take software that is being called "free software" and to establish an
>inherent "right" to do anything in particular with that software is
>every bit as much of a leap as it is when the GPL indicates that there
>are certain *privileges* that it reserves to the original author of a
>software work. 

The GPL is carefully crafted to allow users to obtain their copy
without having a mechanism in place to enforce first agreeing to
the license restrictions, but an unavoidable side effect is that
the use of that copy is then completely unrestricted.  Copyright
restrictions implictly prohibit further redistribution, though.
The GPL explictly allows this redistibution, but only under the
specified terms.  If you don't redistribute, the terms are not
at all relevant.  The net effect of all this is that anyone can
put together any combination of software that they have legally
obtained, and use it for any purpose that does not violate
pre-imposed license agreements.  However, if the combination includes
any GPL'd components, regardless of how useful it might be, it
cannot be redistributed unless all of the components can be
distributed under GPL terms.

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James H Timberlake, III)
Subject: Re: WindowMaker-0.51.0-1 Install Problems
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:30:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks for the info, but where can i get libungif-4.1.0-1?  everywhere
i look i only find libungif -3.3-4.  

On 21 Feb 1999 09:54:13 PST, [email protected] () wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       James H Timberlake III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> here goes,
>> i am running redhat 5.2 with gnome and MOST of windowmaker installed.  i
>> have the rpm binaries and when i run the main windowmaker rpm it gives
>> me the error:
>> 
>> failed dependencies:
>> libungif.so.4 is needed by WindowMaker-0.51.0-1
>> 
>> what rpm is this file distributed in?  i installed the
>> libungif-3.0-4.rpm off the cd to no avail.  what am i missing?
>
>It wants the latest libungif rpm from redhat-contrib - I have
>
>> mjollnir% rpm -q libungif
>libungif-4.1.0-1
>
>Of course, other packages want the old libungif.so.3,  so after you
>install the new libungif, you need to add a link
>ln -s /usr/lib/libungif.so.4.1.0 /usr/lib/libungif.so.3
>
>By the way, be careful with the WindowMaker updates.  The capitalized
>WindowMaker rpm puts things in completely different places than the
>old WindowMaker 0.20 that came with RH 5.2, and also omits all the 
>pixmaps for your icons that normally are available from the
>extra tarball you get from the WindowMaker site.  There is another
>windowmaker-0.51 rpm (not capitalized) which puts things more like
>RedHat has them, but that one seems to have a broken OPEN_MENU
>command which doesn't allow the standard RH wmconfig to generate
>a menu of programs.  A workaround is to generate the program listing
>by hand using wmconfig, then install that list directly into a
>~/GNUStep/Library/WindowMaker/menu file, and set 
>~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu to look at that file.
>
>At least, that's what I had to do.  Good luck.
>
>-jmm


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.sys
Subject: Re: Where to get link/unlink command?
Date: 21 Feb 1999 19:34:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Victor Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Your problem is that you are using umsdos file system which doesn't
: support hard links. You should try (if possible) to rewrite script
: so it would use rename instead link/unlink pair. 
: (unlink works perfectly well on fat systems - it just deletes file)

This probably explains why I'm having problems with the passwd command
too. Upon typing "passwd" to change my password as a user. The /etc/passwd
is copied to passwd.old but it never copies the new /etc/passwd to /etc/passwd. THus, 
I've lost the passwd file and if I should logout as root, I won't be 
able to log back in -unless of course, I manually copy the passw.old file
back before I log out.

Are there any other Linux file systems formats that I should be aware of that
can't do hard links?



--
        Mike,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Firewall with 1 IP
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:45:27 -0800

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:44:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >  - My ISP has asigned me 1 static IP.
>> >  - I have a LAN, and 3 NT Web servers on it that I want to make available to
>> > Inet with 192.168.X.X IPs.
>> >
>> >  - I want to put a Linux RedHat 5.2 based firewall before the LAN.
>> >
>> >    Would it be possible with just 1 IP, maybe with IP Masquerading or
>should I
>> > ask for a Class C Network?
>> >
>> > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>> > http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>> >
>> You don't need to ask for a Class C. You can do *nearly* everything you
>> could possibly want with a masquerading Linux firewall, port forwarding,
>> and proxies.
>
>   Ok, so what's the software I should apply then? What would you recommend?
>
>   Could I implement everything with just ipfwadm?

        Yup... read the IP-Masquerade FAQ. For your purposes it 
        should be an effective walkthru.

-- 
                Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
  
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or         |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out   / | \
as soon as your grip slips.

        In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com

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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Been bashed and kshed
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:15:33 -0800

Rather new at editing .bash_x   .kshrc and .profile, but know there has
to be an easy way to change from bash to ksh (and get proper  pwd
prompt) by editing these files, but haven't been around the track enough
laps yet.

Suggestions, comments, fresh fish appreciated.

TIA


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