Linux-Misc Digest #150, Volume #21               Sat, 24 Jul 99 18:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  anyone using mgen?? (Daniele Vian)
  tux....i fink ("Nevyn")
  Re: ISA AWE64 blasts!! during boot. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  How to install linux as a Remote Access Server? (Jeroen de Haas)
  Re: tux....i fink ("Nevyn")
  Re: tux....i fink (Robert Heller)
  Re: Gnome and redhat 6.0 problem???? (Jeffrey Chok)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Ashley Penney)
  XTNPD problem in RedHat 5.2 (Gilbert Sebenste)
  Re: redhat vs suse (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: redhat vs suse (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  need CDE source ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  for any programmer/hacker people out there ("Nevyn")
  Re: Binary List ? (RKAA)
  Re: Mozilla and SuSE Linux (Tim Harrell)
  Binary List ? (Jim McIntyre)
  Re: Sound problems (Ken Corbin)
  C question (me)
  Re: mounting msdos partions (Helge Dahl)
  Re: netscape (Randal Powell)
  Any Vcd/mpeg FREE s'ware? ("S Ghosh")
  Re: Gnome and redhat 6.0 problem???? (Randal Powell)
  Re: HP 4150 lameness (part I) (EKK)
  Re: C question (Bruce Stephens)
  Re: StarOffice ("Donald E. Stidwell")
  Re: need CDE source (Justin B Willoughby)

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From: Daniele Vian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: anyone using mgen??
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:07:46 -0400

Hi all,

Is there anyone using mgen on Linux? I have a timestamping problem I
don't know how to work out.
I would really appreciate if anyone using it could contact me and say if
I'm the only one having this problem (I'm using 2.2.7 - redhat6). I'm
really desperate...

thanks

daniele


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From: "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tux....i fink
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:59:59 +0100

anyone know where i can get a picter of that bloody penguin......anyone?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISA AWE64 blasts!! during boot.
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:41:21 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Zeger Hendrikse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > RedHat 6.0. Once in a while during the boot of the Debian/Linux the
> > speakers make a loud blast! This is annoying. I couldn't determine
the
> > exact time of the booting that I have this problem but I believe
that it
> > could be when I modprob midi in one of my init.d files.
> >         I'm using isapnp to load SB and RedHat does not have this
problem. Does
> > anyone have similar experience?
>
> I had this problem as well.
> I think it is caused by inserting the sound modules using insmod (at
> boot time). I replaced the insmod command by modprobe sb, and added
some

I was loading midi with modprobe so I'm not sure if this is the problem.

Anyhow, I'm using a different approach that may work:

I properly installed the gom package (Debian 2.1). The default seting
will mute all channels of the mixer at boot time before it goes to
runlevel 2 where I load midi with modprobe. You can tell that because
gom will be run after the sound modules are loaded. Right when the sound
modules are loaded you can hear a very low white noise from the
speakers. This is gone when gom initializes the sound levels of the
mixer to mute. I think it should then be safe to load midi without the
blast. We can then at login time set our mixer desired levels using
.bash_login. I haven't tested this configuration thoroughly yet but I
think it is going to work.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeroen de Haas)
Subject: How to install linux as a Remote Access Server?
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:04:44 GMT

Hi,

I try to find which package I need to setup my linuxbox
as a Remote Access Server? I want to be able to dial into my linuxbox
and get an ip address from it and a default gateway, so I can access
my local network from remote.

Any help will be appreciated.

Jeroen de Haas

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From: "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tux....i fink
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:11:10 +0100

yay!!!!..thankx



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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tux....i fink
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:58:58 GMT

  "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:59:59 +0100, wrote :

"> anyone know where i can get a picter of that bloody penguin......anyone?

There are links to a number of places with pictures of Tux, by himself,
with 1 or more friends, with beer, and so on the LDP's Links page. 
Visit the LDP at http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/, and select the 'links'
page. Down under "Multimedia" are a collection of links to pictures of
Tux (& friends).

"> 
"> --
"> 
"> *************************************
"> **  "yurtta sula cihanda sula"  **
"> *************************************
"> 
"> 
">                 






                                           
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From: Jeffrey Chok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Gnome and redhat 6.0 problem????
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 03:36:25 +0800

> I have not found a way to change the background for individual desktops in
> gnome, and while there is a desktop number pull-down for that purpose in
> enlightenment, I have never been able to get it to work.

I use WindowMaker and Gnome, and could get different backgrounds by
switching off Gnome's background applet and using WindowMaker's
background settings.  Not sure if it'll work for enlightenment though...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashley Penney)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 19 Jul 1999 22:26:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:39:17 GMT, Peter Seebach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) gabbered:
:In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:Ashley Penney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Assuming Diabetes is passed down thru the genes, then it means that it
:>will slowly spread until we all suffer from the same genetic weakness.
:
:Not necessarily.  It may mean that it will not die out as fast.
:
:The other question, though, is, why should we care?  For that matter, in
:another 15 years, maybe we can fix it...
:
:>My first solution would be forcing all teen mothers to give up their
:>child for adoption, and then being thrown in jail, along with the
:>father.  If a teenager is stupid enough to have sex illegally, and
:>then bring a child into the world, they deserve to be punished and
:>the child deserves to live in a home capable of raising them properly.
:
:You're right.  Damn those rape victims; they were all asking for it.

Darn, my oversight.  I did actually mean to mention those kind of circumstances
but was distracted.  I didn't mean to include victims of rape and abuse, those
events are competely beyond their control, and if anything they deserve our
help, rather than anything else.

-- 
                  Ashley Penney - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The dinosaurs died because they didn't have a space program. -- Arthur C Clarke

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From: Gilbert Sebenste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XTNPD problem in RedHat 5.2
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:02:59 -0500

Hello all,

I have xntpd on my linux machine, hooked up to the Internet bya T3
connection. Now, the clock gets behind anaverage of 3 minutes a day. Even
though I type "peer" and see that it's hooked up to 3 hosts, the time
still drifts, and my "drift" file number gets larger and larger.

Any ideas on how to stop this?

Gilbert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
Subject: Re: redhat vs suse
Date: 24 Jul 1999 20:13:39 GMT

On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:17:16 -0400, Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Given the choice, thought, I prefer slackware.  call me old-fashioned,
>> but i cannot stand RPM!  i prefer having control over how my software
>> installs -- hacking a makefile is easier once you learn how.
>
>How?

Try jed Makefile dude.

-- 
Frederic L. W. Meunier = Niteroi, RJ - Brazil = Tel: +55-21-620-7173
Contact: fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,urbi.com.br} = IRC: _19751127
[root@marseille /tmp]# f{l,r}ames;java*;HTML_mail;SPAM > /dev/null
(All text before "-- " isn't my opinion nor my employer's)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
Subject: Re: redhat vs suse
Date: 24 Jul 1999 20:10:50 GMT

On 24 Jul 1999 01:44:43 -0400, Coy A Hile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:41:35 -0500, David Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>At the risk of starting a flame war I would like to hear opinions concurring
>>>redhat 6.0 and suse 6.2. All thoughtful responses are appreciated.
>>
>>Hi. The best linux distribution is RedHat 5.1. It's better than 6.0, at
>>least my 5.1! Get both, test both and use what you want.

>Oh God, not another religious war.  Of the two mentioned, i personally 
>prefer Redhat to SuSE, and RH 5.1/5.2 to RH 6.0. I don't need everything 
>under the sun (including the kitchen sink :).

I don't tested 5.2 or 6.0. 5.2 is like 5.1, with minor updates. 6.0 is a big
update, new Glibc... but no need to install a new release if you're happy.

>Given the choice, thought, I prefer slackware.  call me old-fashioned, 
>but i cannot stand RPM!  i prefer having control over how my software
>installs -- hacking a makefile is easier once you learn how.

I agree. A RedHat user isn't obliged to use RPMs, right? My RedHat 5.1 only
have the official RedHat updates and the rest is from the default
installation. Today, after one year I have less than 50% of the RPMs...

-- 
Frederic L. W. Meunier = Niteroi, RJ - Brazil = Tel: +55-21-620-7173
Contact: fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,urbi.com.br} = IRC: _19751127
[root@marseille /tmp]# f{l,r}ames;java*;HTML_mail;SPAM > /dev/null
(All text before "-- " isn't my opinion nor my employer's)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: need CDE source
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jul 1999 20:14:39 GMT

Is CDE for Linux downloadable from somewhere?

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From: "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: for any programmer/hacker people out there
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:14:19 +0100

i jus had a rally good idea for a program if anyone would like o make
it.......i have to use windows to access the internet (hopefully only for a
few days) and so i cant download anything without downloading it in windows,
rebooting to linux and installing......now my problem is when i tyr to
install something in RPM format and then find i need yet more files.......if
i could have a prog that i could say start in linux once, then use in
windows and would keep a database of all my rpm dependancies, so i could
check as i downloaded stuff if i needed more stuf.....instead of hours of
reboots........anyone who knows of a prog like this....or decides to build
one....please send it me....d:o)

--

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**  "yurtta sula cihanda sula"  **
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From: RKAA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Binary List ?
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:40:09 +0000

Jim McIntyre wrote:

> I was studying last night and my notebook brushed up against my
> keyboard. In my terminal window, i received the prompt "There are 2501
> possibilities, do you want to see them all?"
> I'm curious as to what this list is, although I suspect it is a list of
> my /bin directory.

You've hit the tab key.

when you partly write a file/dirname and hit tab, linux will fill out the
rest if a unique match is found. A very handy shortcut. If no unique match
is found nothing appears, but if you then hit tab once again the various
options will display. If options are too many and Linux suspect you made
an error, it prompts you before displaying it all.

K.


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From: Tim Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mozilla and SuSE Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:32:17 GMT

I got this too with M8.
setting  LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include {mozilla-home} did the trick, even
though the script appears to set it anyway

this was just a quick fix and I didn't want to waste more time looking
into it 

so 
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/opt/mozilla/package
and you should be laughing.

Until you actually start using Mozilla that is :-(

Tim


Kerschbaumer Samuel wrote:
> 
> I have downloaded the binariesof Mozilla M7. But if if
> I want to start the program I become these errors:
> 
> sam@kerschbaumer:/opt/mozilla/package > run-mozilla.sh
> MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/opt/mozilla/package
>   LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mozilla/package
>       MOZ_PROGRAM=viewer
>         moz_debug=0
>      moz_debugger=
> Registered Ok
> **************************************************
> nsComponentManager: Load(/opt/mozilla/package/components/libnsjpg.so)
> FAILED with error: libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> **************************************************
> *** Registering html library
> Going to create the event queue
> **************************************************
> nsComponentManager: Load(libwidgetgtk.so) FAILED with error:
> /opt/mozilla/package/components/libnsjpg.so: undefined symbol:
> QueryInterface__15nsJPGDecFactoryRC4nsIDPPv
> **************************************************
> ./run-mozilla.sh: line 35:  3449 Speicherzugriffsfehler  $prog ${1+"$@"}
> 
> Who can help me?
> 
> ...Thanks!

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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Binary List ?
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:37:03 -0300

I was studying last night and my notebook brushed up against my
keyboard. In my terminal window, i received the prompt "There are 2501
possibilities, do you want to see them all?"
I'm curious as to what this list is, although I suspect it is a list of
my /bin directory.

I am also curious as to what command produces this list, other than me
leaning on my keyboard.
TIA

Jim McIntyre
Webmnaster Program
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Corbin)
Subject: Re: Sound problems
Date: 24 Jul 1999 21:01:23 GMT

In article <7lr3c1$oj1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,      TwoSheds writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I have recently installed RH6. I have a few questions regarding sound:
> 
> 1. - I can get sound out of winamp but not a CD. Any ideas?
> 
> 2. - when I try to use the EDS Volume Meter, in the Multimedia group
> (I'm running Gnome) I get an error box - "Cannot connect to sound daemon.
> Please run 'esd' at a command prompt.". After starting eds a
> volume meter
> pops up, but it doesn't respond to any mouse
> clicks. And now even x11amp won't make any sound.
> 
> I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to set up sound
> correctly, or point me to a document that will. I'm
> using an AWE64 soundcard, which definitely produces music
> from x11amp usually. But it's not very loud, so I need a volume.

I seem to be in pretty much the same boat.  Soundcard appears to be a cs4232,
but it came bundled in with an emachine motherboard so it is hard to be
certain.  I seem to have it configured OK, files copied to /dev/audio seem to
work.  But none of the three CD player's I've tried are working.

I hadn't thought of running files through x11amp, and sure enough it will play
au and wav files just slick.  And I found the volume control, it's the little
slider under the kbps and kHz boxes.  The one next to it is balance control.
So I can play cute noises, but still can't get a CD player functioning.

I am having problems with /dev/midi not doing what it is suposed to do, but
the CD players should be using the audio device, shouldn't they???

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 23:28:16 +0200
From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: C question

hello.

I want to access file information in linux using C. ie. filesize, date
modified, filename etc. I wrote the following piece of code in DOS using
borland Turbo C++. How do I write an equivalent linux version?????

#include <stdio.h>
#include <dir.h>
#include <conio.h>

......
......
clrscr();    //found in conio.h
struct ffblk f;
findfirst("filename.ext", &f,0);
/* now struct f contains the info i want. what do i use in linux?? */
getch();  //found in conio.h
.....
.....
.....
what header file must i include to make use of clrscr() and getch() ????

thanks for the help
ali


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Helge Dahl)
Subject: Re: mounting msdos partions
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:20:38 GMT

On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:34:17 GMT, Patrick Dooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi -- I have a hard drive with multiple msdos partions.  I can mount the
>first partion just fine using 'mount -t msdos /dev/hdb1 /mnt/pc_c' but
>trying to mount hdb2 only results in a message that hdb2 is an invalid
>block device.  Is this because hdb1 is a primary partion and the others
>are logical?
>thanks
>

If hdb1 is a primary partition and the rest of the disk consist of logical 
partitions, then hdb2 is an extended partition. And extended partitions
can't be mounted because they only hold information about the logical
partitions. You'll have to start mounting on hdb3.

Helge

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From: Randal Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: netscape
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:11:23 -0700

Michel Catudal wrote:
> 
> James Stafford wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > > try this site
> > >
> > > http://www.bluemountainarts.com
> > >
> > > choose the birthday cards
> > >
> > > then you go to the second page and choose "Happy birthday to you"
> > >
> > > Have fun!
> > >
> > > --
> > > use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
> > > use Linux for safe and quick internet access
> > > use Winblows to test the latest viruses
> > > http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> > > We have software, food, music, news, search,
> > > history, electronics and genealogy pages.
> >
> > Well, I just went there and besides complaining about not having an
> > x-audio plug-in everything worked alright. Is this what was supposed to
> > happen? Now, I would like to take the time for turning me on to this
> > great card sight! I love to make my own greeting cards, and doing so is
> > just about the only thing I have to use something other than Linux for.
> >
> > Again thanks a lot,
> >
> > jamess
> > --
> 
> Mine uses midi and after the midi starts I don't seem to be able
> to stop it. But then it seems to crash as it is trying to load
> a big font. There is potentially two problems here.
> 
> Under RedHat 6.0 netscape 4.51 and up would make Netscape go
> into a black hole while under SuSE it crashes Netscape. With
> Netscape 4.5 I never got it to crash under this with RedHat 6.0
> but it does crash sometime under SuSE if I have another netscape
> window open. It works ok most of the time.
> 
> --
> use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
> use Linux for safe and quick internet access
> use Winblows to test the latest viruses
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.

I tried this site and had no problem at all (using Netscape 4.61 on RH
6.0). But then, I recently installed the most recent JDK of Java for
Linux. Seems a lot of unexpected exits and core dumps disappeared when I
did this.

-- 
Randy Powell
        
        "Reality is that part of imagination that most people agree on"
                                                                                       
         Descartes

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From: "S Ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Any Vcd/mpeg FREE s'ware?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:38:32 +0530

I use a i686, with RH 6.0 on it. I run an Xcom server for my i740 d. card
and Gnmoe as my window manager/D Environment. Now, searching the web, I cud
find only mpegTV for playing back VCDs and Mpegs.. unfortunately its
shareware and audio goes mute after all of 30s. As its not possible for me
to afford the price , can anyone suggest a good one, which comes free..
note, I am quite new to Linux and other than simple RPM and tar installs,
i've not handled much.

Thanks a lot,



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From: Randal Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Gnome and redhat 6.0 problem????
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:20:30 -0700

ryan wrote:
> 
> root wrote:
> 
> >     I got a problem for the gnome under redhat6.0. After the
> > installation finished, all the nice background
> > images disappeared under the gnome configuration program(e-conf). Is
> > there anyone know which
> > particular rpm package I should install in order to get back those nice
> > background images??? Thanks a lot,
> > later.
> 
> Actually, it looks to me like you are confusing gnome with your window
> manager - since you refer to 'e-conf' I think you are using enlightenment.
> 
> This is kind of misleading at first, but there are actually two
> configuration tools for this setup (this is the default gnome setup as far
> as I know).
> 
> 'E-conf' is for enlightenment, while gnome has it's own control-panel.  If
> you use both control panels, the enlightenment background will only show
> up when you start X.  It will quickly be replaced by the background you
> choose in the gnome control panel.  On a fast machine with an accelerated
> video card and the right kernel you might not even see the 'e-conf'
> background.
> 
> I have not found a way to change the background for individual desktops in
> gnome, and while there is a desktop number pull-down for that purpose in
> enlightenment, I have never been able to get it to work.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Ryan T. Rhea
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ryan,

Easiest way to deal with this I've found is to disable the gnome
background (at the bottom of the background config screen in the Gnome
Control Panel) and to use e-conf to configure the back ground. If you
use multiple desktops, you can configure a different background of each
desktop by click on that desktop and settup up a background in e-conf
(or if you use enlightenment 0.16, you can just right click on the
desktop your in and select background). Doesn't work if you use multiple
screens on the same desktop.

-- 
Randy Powell
        
        "Reality is that part of imagination that most people agree on"
                                                                                       
         Descartes

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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 4150 lameness (part I)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:57:41 -0700

David J. Topper wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I hope at some point to put up a page (like several others) documenting
> my experience with Hewlett Packard and the purchase of a new Omnibook
> 4150.  But things are progressing such that I feel the need to post a
> play-by-play.
> 
> BACKGROUND:  I spend hours on the phone with HP sales and tech. support
> making sure I was getting a) the machine I wanted and b) a machine with
> the correct audio and video chipsets to run Linux.
> 
> FOUL-UP #1:  I placed an order for a new 400mhz 4150 with all bells and
> whistles, and a few extras.  This was on Wednesday of last week.  I paid
> extra for next day air.  I called to check on Friday (that's 2 days
> later) to see what was going wrong.  My unit shipped that morning.  Oops
> on their part.  They say they'll credit me the cost of next day
> shipping.
> 
> FOUL-UP #2:  So I of course get to work today, anxiously awaiting my new
> laptop.  It came!  I decide to just boot it up and give it a test
> drive.  Install Win98, ok, I can stand that for a few hours.  :-)  I
> decide to check some system configs.  To my surprise, I find the audio
> chip is a Neomagic!  This is contra the 3 phone conversations I had with
> HP to ensure I was getting a machine with a Crystal Sound chip (fully
> supported by OSS).
> 
> FOUL-UP #3:  My suspicion growing, I decide to check out the BIOS.  Once
> again to my surprise, I find that this unit has a 366mhz processor,
> instead of the 400mhz one I ordered!
> 
> FOUL-UP #4:  I've been on hold with HP for over 1/2 an hour now.  I'm
> serious.  Thankfully I'm at work and can do other things while my
> speaker phone yammers on about "Please wait for the next available rep."
> 
> I had thought this purchase was a good thing.  I mean, I felt good about
> buying from a company like HP instead of a "one off" vendor like:
> 
> http://www.bstore.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpbs/initsession.jsp?t=932406051
> 
> Things like "3 year warranty" and HP's fine Unix tradition just made me
> feel good inside.  Never mind the $4,000+ pricetag.  I wanted quality.
> I might be way wrong on that line of thinking.  I think I need to
> reevaluate the benefit/disadvantage of buying from such a big company.
> I post here to give others food for thought in this department.
> 
> Still on hold ...
> 
> Dave Topper

it goes along with other big company lameness, such as DELL, etc.

when you order something and ask details such as what kind of SCSI
controller is on the motherboard they just say "integrated" or they
often cannot expand on their vague advertisement descriptions of
the hardware that comes with the machine, so it is a given that you
waste a bunch of time on the phone making sure all the stuff on the
machine is what you desire.

they should describe all the features in detail, it doesn't
take up that much room to FULLY describe all the hardware on a PC.

Unfortunately, when buying a laptop there are few alternatives and
no such thing as "build your own," yet.




AG

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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: C question
Date: 24 Jul 1999 22:33:08 +0100

me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I want to access file information in linux using C. ie. filesize,
> date modified, filename etc. I wrote the following piece of code in
> DOS using borland Turbo C++. How do I write an equivalent linux
> version?????
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <dir.h>
> #include <conio.h>
> 
> ......
> ......
> clrscr();    //found in conio.h
> struct ffblk f;
> findfirst("filename.ext", &f,0);
> /* now struct f contains the info i want. what do i use in linux?? */

Use stat, from <sys/stat.h>.

> getch();  //found in conio.h
> .....
> .....
> .....
> what header file must i include to make use of clrscr() and getch() ????

What do clrscr and getch have to do with getting file information?
<curses.h> contains functions like getch and things to clear the
screen, but they're probably different to those in Turbo C++.

You may well find that there's a program stat (/usr/bin/stat) which
prints this information out anyway, if that's all you want.

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From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:35:11 GMT

Farouk Dindar wrote:

> Hi
>
> This is a newbie question.
>
> I am trying Linux
>
> I have installed Caldera with StarOffice 5.0.
>
> Is there an easy to used manual or book on this much
> touted software?
>
> I enjoy challenges but do not want to climb Mount Everest :-)
>
> Farouk Dindar

Actually there's what looks to be a pretty useful boxed set of books for
both SO and Linux. I saw it at Barnes & Nobles yesterday. The books are
Learn StarOffice in 24 Hours and Learn Linux in 24 Hours (or something
along those lines) by McMillan. They're a part of the "24 hours" series
of books. The ones I saw were packaged with the 2 books together and the
price wasn't bad - about $25 or so if I recall correctly.

I also believe they come with CDs for COL 2.2 and StarOffice. Check B&N
online or Amazon.

Don


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: need CDE source
Date: 24 Jul 1999 21:27:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)


 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Is CDE for Linux downloadable from somewhere?

I am quite sure CDE is neither free nor open source.

- Justin
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