Linux-Misc Digest #170, Volume #21 Mon, 26 Jul 99 09:13:18 EDT
Contents:
Reading error with floppy in RH-5.2, HELP please ! (Nguyen-Dai Quy)
Re: CIA assassinations (Michael Powe)
Re: Remount CDROM (Juergen Pfann)
Re: CIA assassinations (MK)
Re: where is todos, fromdos? (gus)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Ashley Penney)
Re: Calerda 2.2 Vs Mandrake 5.3 (Farouk Dindar)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Floyd Davidson)
RE: POP Mail? ("Carlos RCU")
Re: state of SGML-tools wrt HOWTOs ? (Tom Fawcett)
latest netscape (kev)
converting .ai-files (Jan Scheffczyk)
Re: spin down HDD (Helge Hafting)
Re: kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:42 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 3 redhat 6 annoyances (John Strange)
Re: POP Mail? ("xo")
Re: chroot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Nguyen-Dai Quy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reading error with floppy in RH-5.2, HELP please !
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:45:14 +0200
Hi,
I use RH-5.2, kernel 2.0.36. In my /etc/fstab I have :
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat user,noexec,nodev,nosuid,rw,noauto,conv=binary
0 0
I can use floppy DOS'format without problem... until yesterday !!!
When I mount :
$ mount /mnt/floppy
I have error :
floppy0: probe failed ...
floppy0: probe failed ...
floppy0: probe failed ...
floppy0: probe failed ...
floppy0: probe failed ...
floppy0: probe failed ...
end_request: I/O error dev 02:00, sector 0
FAT bread failed
mount : wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0 or too
many mounted file
systems
There is only Win's partition mounted at this moment. With the same
floppy I can read without problem at another Linux (RH-5.2) box and
Window95.
Have any ideas for help me ?
Thanks in advance.
PS : If possible, I would like to receive your message at my email
address, THANKS !
_____________________________________________________
NGUYEN-DAI Quy
LTAS-Fracture Mechanics, University of Liege.
Rue Ernest Solvay 21, Bat C3, B-4000, Liege, Belgium.
http://bobo.ltas.ulg.ac.be/~quy
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 26 Jul 1999 01:57:34 -0700
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>>>>> "ATZ" == A T Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> In some societies, where resources are scarce, people are
>> >> abandoned to die when they no longer can provide service to
>> the >> community. In a society with a surfeit of wealth,
>> there's no >> excuse for adopting that attitude.
ATZ> In The Netherlands (here) nobody has to die because he or she
ATZ> doesn't have a job. To many people without jobs are
ATZ> complaining about their situation and they don't do a single
ATZ> thing to get a real job. I don't think I have an attitude
ATZ> problem. If a person has good health and he or she can work,
>> Go back and look at your own text. What is a "real job"?
>> Flipping hamburgers?
ATZ> ANY job.
>> Truth is, most people who have "real jobs" are treated like
>> dirt by the bourgeois.
ATZ> Some people can't respect others. This is not a matter of
ATZ> income but how people think about others.
No, it is a matter of income.
>> Basically, you give people the choice of working and being
>> sneered at, or sitting at home and being sneered at. Gee,
>> tough choice.
ATZ> Is it a tough choice? I've been there. Just after graduation
ATZ> I couldn't find a job. Therefore I accepted a job in a
ATZ> factory, yes some people sneered at me but only until I
ATZ> explained to them why I was working. I think that if someone
ATZ> can provide a income for his or herself, he or she should.
Ah gee, isn't that touching. You worked in a factory for a few
months. So, that makes you some kind of expert on what it's like.
Get back to me after you've worked in one for 20 years. And who were
all those people who sneered at you until you made excuses for why you
were working there? Clearly, you and they both felt that being a
factory worker was demeaning, something you only did temporarily until
you could get a "real" job.
ATZ> he or she has to do everything to get a real job. For people
ATZ> who do not succeed in getting a job social security should
ATZ> provide an income. Our government has the policy that those
ATZ> people who don't want to find a job get less money from
ATZ> social security. You can't compare the situation in countries
ATZ> the way you do, some people would call it their culture and
ATZ> you could really insult them with what you're saying.
>> I'm sure I don't know to what this refers.
ATZ> You wrote "In some societies, where resources are scarce,
ATZ> people are abandoned todie when they no longer can provide
ATZ> service to the community."
That's right and it's true. And you advocate some such process.
>> >> The answer to your question is: you're the "loser," a "man"
>> >> whose morals are still those of that first creature to drop
>> >> from the tree and walk upright on the ground.
>>
ATZ> Do you really want to insult me for my opinion?? And yes I
ATZ> would be a loser if I was paying to much tax.
>> There's more to life than money.
ATZ> Yes. Stocks, bonds, options, falcons, car, big house, love
ATZ> and last but most certainly not least sex.
You seem to have muddled up the good and the irrelevant -- it seems
you can't tell the difference.
mp
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Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
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Amount of all stock owned by the least wealthy 90% of America: 18%
Amount of all stock owned by the most wealthy 1% of America: 41%
[Economic Policy Institute]
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remount CDROM
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:17:12 +0200
Hello!
Axel M�ller wrote:
>
> Thank you for your advice. But it still doesn't work.
> Umounting /mnt/cdrom is not possible ("/mnt/cdrom not mounted")!
Please notice that in your previous posting, you said you get the
message "/dev/cdrom already mounted or /mnt/cdrom busy" -> kernel
assuming that device is mounted ! Meanwhile it _is_ unmounted;
seems that one of your previous "umounts" succeeded at last. Or the
cdrom driver, be it ATAPI or SCSI, has been automatically unloaded
by "kerneld"; but that's only possible if the media is not mounted !
So all is fine now...
> I have also looked in /etc/mtab, but there is no entry for the cdrom.
_Mount_ the CD again and look again afterwards.
> And a file /etc/mtab~ doesn't exist.
>
> Axel
>
CU
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:18:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jul 1999 01:45:09 -0700, Michael Powe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> No, the ones doing most of the complaining make $60K a year,
> >> spend $75K a year and whine about the `gummint' taking their
> >> money. At least in the US, the rate of increase for consumer
> >> indebtedness is far higher than the rate of increase for gov't
> >> debt. The same people who criticize the `gummint' for
> >> mismanaging funds are themselves incompetent in the same
> >> matter.
> Jim> Where did you get this little gem? cites?
>Do you have any "cites" to the contrary? I offer in evidence, the
>amount of whining that goes on in newsgroups ... there are no poor
>people in evidence here, and yet there's plenty of whining about the
>`gummint' taking their money.
Shrug. Because it's true. It _is_ their money, and the government
_is_ taking it away. Whether the individual mismanages his money or
not is _his_ problem only; when government mismanages money (and it is
routine, try to look at European economies), everybody looses. That's
group responsibility, something that civilized people frown upon.
>Currently, the US Congress is about to
>pass yet another tax package for the bourgeois, the "marriage penalty"
>tax break, the lying lizards are calling it. If you're not married,
>you're already at a tax disadvantage -- and now, that disadvantage
>will grow.
This was a ricochet in the battle between feminists and conservatives
-- feminists wanted to get a tax funded daycare, so conservatives
fired counter-torpedo of tax cut to prevent the bill for daycare being
handed to couples with children. Unfortunately, singles have got
a part of blast. Well, that's what happens when the government
becomes "involved" in the economy.
>Who does Congress represent -- the poor? Yeah, I had to
>inject a little humour there. After the "Tax REform Act of 1986," my
>taxes went up -- and the taxes went way down for people making $10K
>per year more than I was making. Entirely predictable.
Or else those people will evade the taxes (take note of proliferation
of tax havens), or if they will be absolutely unable to pay, they
will pass most of their taxes onto customers, Sherlock. That's what
happens in Europe, check practice if you don't believe theory.
Purchasing power of hour of work, etc.
Marcin Krol
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where is todos, fromdos?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:19:45 +0100
Have a look in your aliases ;-)
type "alias" at your prompt, you will find they are aliases to a
recoding program.
gus
Tim Williams wrote:
>
> I have a text file I wanted to bring over to Win95 to print. (I
> stupidly bought a Windows printer - Lexmark 3200 - before I got
> Linux.) Where is the todos (unix2dos) program? I only recently
> installed Linux RH 5.2 on my PC at home and I thought those two
> programs would be in /bin or /usr/bin.
>
> On a related note, how do I search all the RPMs on the RedHad CD to
> find this? (Assuming todos/fromdos exist in an RPM somewhere on the
> CD.)
>
> TIA.
>
> P.S. What 's a good offline newsreader for Linux? Right now I'm using
> ProNews/2 under OS/2 Warp 3, but I'm thinking about giving up OS/2 and
> use the disk space for Linux. Graphical would be nice, but not
> required. I'm using strn at work. (Someone else set it up though.)
> ______________________
> Tim Williams
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashley Penney)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 11:39:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jul 1999 06:01:43 GMT, Darren Winsper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) gabbered:
:On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:34:42 GMT, Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Give it up DUDE! You know NOTHING about Miami, and I've seen from
:> your previous post that you are completely CLUELESS, and you continue
:> to make an ass out of yourself.
:
:Just out of interest, what are the advantages of Miami over pppd?
Darren,
You've stirred up the Amiga nutcases, RUN DARREN! Run and don't look back or
you will see the horde of Amiga fanatics frantically clutching their rather
pathetically outdated hardware. Run.
--
Ashley Penney - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'm not lean and mean, I'm surly and anorexic". -- Chris "Saundo" Saunderson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farouk Dindar)
Subject: Re: Calerda 2.2 Vs Mandrake 5.3
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:41:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A Dumbass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I got a copy of Mandrake. I went to buy a book and I was hard up to find
>a book for Mandrake. But I found many books that came wirth either Red
>Hat 5 or Caldera OpenLinux 2.2. I dont want Red Hat because it is just a
>stripped down Mandrake and Caldera comes with PartionMagic and KDE
>(which I really wanted). But what I was wondering is which would be
>better for me (I am a NEWBIE) and are there any good books anyone can
>recommend?
>
I bought Mandrake.
I later wanted to try Star Office. I got fed up with downloading it so
I bought Caldera which has Star Office on the CD.
You have more control in installing Mandrake. Caldera is a little
more attractive aesthetically. I had problem in installing lilo with
Mandrake so I am using Caldera. I am trying linux as an "intellectual
exercise" to improve my "computer IQ". I am very happy with Win 98
The latest Mandrake has Partition Magic and BootMagic just like
Caldera.
Farouk Dindar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 09:54:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Oh yeah, i've tried PPPD on a linux machine and frankly it is
>PATHETIC compared to miami Deluxe. The question is that have you
>tried Miami Deluxe on an Amiga? I seriously doubt it, otherwish you
>would not continue to make a fool out of yourslelf!
In what way was pppd pathetic compared to maimi deluxe?
It appears to me that you are blowing more smoke in the same
direction as those who claimed that MS-CHAP was being used by
"everyone", and was required by a whole list of ISP's (who all
used regular CHAP and are quite compatible with Linux).
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Carlos RCU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RE: POP Mail?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:10:35 +0200
Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en el mensaje de noticias
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> anyone know how to tell if POP mail is running ?
Run the 'netstat' command while you try to read from Netscape you mails.
> then how can I setup some pop client like netscape to read it.
> I have only IP addys, no Public Domain names (no company.com)
> How do you send someone email useing IP addresses?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work.
Configure a virtual domain for your LAN.
>
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: state of SGML-tools wrt HOWTOs ?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 07:17:00 -0400
"John D. Verne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Cameron L. Spitzer" wrote:
> >
> > Trying to resume work on LILO mini-HOWTO, on three different Linux
> > boxes, I notice I have three different, mutually incompatible versions of
> > sgml-tools. The version currently available at the abandonded sgml-tools
> > Web site (http://www.sgmltools.org/) compiles on Debian-2.1 but cannot
> > process the Linux HOWTOs.
> >
> > Is there a Linux Documentation Project-specific version of
> > sgml-tools someplace? Where?
> >
> > What's Docbook? How does it relate to Linuxdoc?
> >
> > How can I tell sgml-tools utilities to use Linuxdoc instead of
> > the new and mysterious Docbook format?
> >
>
> These are all very good questions that I have not found the answer to --
> except, of course, for doning my own research. I've learned to work
> backwards from the DTD spec files to find out what the hell sgmltools
> wants from a document type.
I've had similar frustrations trying to get sgml-tools 2.x and Docbook to
work. I haven't been able to.
So I've reverted to version 1.0.9 of sgmltools, which works and supports
Linuxdoc. I haven't converted to Docbook yet, and don't see a reason to
until sgml-tools is picked up again. Last I checked, none of the other
HOWTO authors had started using Docbook either.
Good luck.
-Tom
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: latest netscape
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:13:06 +0100
Hi,
I'm using Red Hat 6, and am running Netscape Communicator 4.51 which I
use for browsing, newsgroups and email. Because it keeps crashing
whenever it gets a sniff of Java, I want to upgrade to Netscape 4.6.
I've been to the Netscape site, they have two Linux versions: linux and
linux (glibc). What's the difference?
Which one do I want? and if I install it, will it write over or delete
all my current data?
Thanks,
- Kev
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:57:32 +0200
From: Jan Scheffczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: converting .ai-files
Hello,
has anyone an idea how to convert adobe-illustrator-images (.ai) into
anything else (GIF, EPS etc.)? The program should run under LINUX in
cammand-line-mode.
Jan Scheffczyk
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From: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: spin down HDD
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:58:08 +0200
Lindoze 2000 wrote:
>
> I use hdparm to spin down my HDD after 1/2 hr or so.
> the problem is, it spins up again after 1/2 hr. then it spins back down.
> has anyone had that problem?
> why wont it stay asleep?
> the system seems idle. no hdd activity detected.
This could be syslog. It will write to /ver/log/syslog
now and then, even if nothing happens. (So you may know
the last time the machine was alive - if it ever dies.)
Check if /var/log/syslog contains "-- MARK --" now and then.
This is configurable, you can turn off the MARKing by
adding the parameter "-m 0" at the place syslogd starts.
This is probably in /etc/init.d somewhere.
Helge Hafting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:42
Date: 26 Jul 1999 09:20:49 GMT
Scorpio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all.
> I've been runnuing 2.2.10 kernel for a while, and had to replace a
> motherboard in my machine. After that, the kernel would not boot and
> produces teh message:
>
> Partition check:
> hda: hda1
^^^^^^^^^
> hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 <> hdb4
> hdc: hdc1 hdc2 <hdc5>
> [...]
> Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:42
^^^^^
The rootfs is set incorrectly: You don't have any logic partition on hda but
your kernel tries to mount the 38th logic partition (03:42 are the
major:minor device numbers of /dev/hda42). Edit your lilo.conf (if you boot
from HDD) or run rdev on the floppy (if you use such a thing for booting)
to set the right root partition.
Peter
--
Peter Gritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`... so I'd rather you didn't try any last-minute stuff.'
I *AM* LAST-MINUTE STUFF, said Death, standing up.
[Terry Pratchett, Hogfather]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Strange)
Subject: Re: 3 redhat 6 annoyances
Date: 26 Jul 1999 12:17:46 GMT
Chad Cunningham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I recently upgraded a staff memebers computer from redhat 5.0 to redhat
: 6.0 and a few things have been causing problems...
: 1) Can't start modem
As root
cd /dev
chmod 666 ttyS2
cd
: This is the biggie. suexecing /usr/sbin/pppd and then trying it gives an
: error that the user does not have permission to access /dev/ttyS2.
: suexecing /dev/ttyS2 gives an error that the user doesn't have
: permission to use /usr/sbin/pppd. A nice circle, and I can't figure out
: how to break out of it...
: 2) Can't shutdown w/o password
chmod +s /sbin/shutdown
: I have been unable to find a way to let a user shutdown the machine
: without entering their password. I've put the user in the root group,
: the wheel group, the shutdown group, and I've enabled all the privilage
: options in linuxconf, all to no avail.
: 3) rm no longer asks for confirmation
add alias rm="rm -i" to ~staff_member/.bashrc
: He wants this back, so when he deletes something, it will ask "Are you
: sure you want to delete file" I have no idea how to change it...
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Alcatel does not claim any responsibility for them. Warranty expired when u
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From: "xo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: POP Mail?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:57:50 +0200
check out /etc/inetd.conf and look for the line which calls the pop daemon
(such as pop3d): verify it is not commented.
xo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: chroot
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:28:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) wrote:
> Roland Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Posting reply to comp.os.linux.misc. Deleting references to
> >comp.os.linux.setup and comp.os.linux.networking
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry to ask a question that's been posted before, but I couldn't
find
> >> an answer that helped . . .
> >>
> >> When I type
> >> chroot /home/ftp ls (or /bin/ls)
> >> I get
> >> chroot: cannot execute ls: No such file or directory
> >>
> >> ls exists under the new root directory, as does anything else that
it
> >> wants to open as shown by running ls under strace.
> >
> >Are you saying you have /home/ftp/bin/ls ? Because once you chroot to
> >/home/ftp, anything outside that tree is gone, from the point of view
> >of the process. And making a link between /bin/ls
and /home/ftp/bin/ls
> >won't help, because chroot won't follow links that point outside of
> >its now-secure tree.
>
> Note also that if ls is dynamically linked you will need to have
> the shared libraries and things like ld.so accessible under the
> new root directory.
>
> Norman
>
This is a second attempt to get this reply to post - apologies if it
appears twice.
Thanks for the ideas - I have been on holiday, hence the delay in
responding.
Yes I have /home/ftp/bin/ls. And yes I have /home/ftp/lib/ld.so, and
any other libraries indicated by running ls under strace. I have no
symbolic links going outside the new root tree. I still can't get ls
(or any other command) to work under chroot. What am I missing?
Chris
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