Linux-Misc Digest #170, Volume #19 Thu, 25 Feb 99 05:13:11 EST
Contents:
gunzip to another partition (Surfer Netzbetrieb)
HOW TO INSTALL A SCSI ZIP ON REDHAT5.2 ?? (Christophe Brajon)
patch 2.0.33 -> 2.0.34 (Surfer Netzbetrieb)
Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support) ("Eric Peterson")
Re: IDE RAID controllers for Linux (Alex Nichol)
Solved my X gpm cut/paste problem (Allen Ashley)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Ken)
Re: su & bash shell : can't login : permission denid (arnee)
Re: Hard disk duplication?? (Enkidu)
Re: More bad news for NT ("Jon Wiest")
Re: changing shells (Gergo Barany)
Re: Xdm, then xsession??? (Charles H. Chapman)
Re: Controlling PC via Telephone ("Bigfulla")
Redhat install help needed (LordG)
Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux? (Hans Wolters)
Re: tx97xe Motherboard caching limit ??? (Peter Verthez)
Re: Star Office - Registration????? (sven vahar)
Re: CDPD wireless and Linux (Grant Taylor)
PPP problem - invalid numeric parameter 'modem' for asyncmap option (Max Tulyev)
Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux? (Reality is a point of view)
Re: Remove patch (Peter Granroth)
Auditing for the mailboxes on my linux server ("Abrie Jordaan")
Re: how do I change resolution? (MS)
Re: AGP Graphics card? (Stephan Skrodzki)
Re: Booting without a keyboard (Phil Snowdon)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Martin)
CREATE_HOME ???? ("The Wizard")
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
Re: gunzip to another partition (Joseph L. Wood, III)
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From: Surfer Netzbetrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gunzip to another partition
Date: 23 Feb 1999 14:09:08 GMT
I have to unzip a 200MB-File, but no partition to take both, the
original an the decompressed file (600MB). How can I pipe the output ? I
tried ">" or "|" already!
How can I pipe tar -xvf <file> ?
thanx in advance
Ekkard
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From: Christophe Brajon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HOW TO INSTALL A SCSI ZIP ON REDHAT5.2 ??
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:11:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bonjour,
Hi,
I have Redhat 5.2 and I want to install a iomega zip (SCSI).
The zip is OK and well detected by linux but the system tries to read or
boot from the zip in place of the harddisk.
So I get a kernel panic.
The problem is: Linux attributes to the zip disk a wrong filesystem
name:
"sda" which is the name of my main filesystem where is all Linux so lilo
trie to boot on the zip disk!!
It must be "sdb" but I do not know how to do this.
I tried to change the SCSI id ( from 6 to 5) of the zip but it is worse:
the hard disk (SCSI)is not even detected!
Thank you for your help.
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From: Surfer Netzbetrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: patch 2.0.33 -> 2.0.34
Date: 23 Feb 1999 14:10:19 GMT
where can I find the patch ?
thank you
Ekkard
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From: "Eric Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:13:46 -0600
Bryan J. Maloney wrote in message ...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sandy Edwards
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Whenever I have to contact ANY support tech from any company for any sort
>of support, be it computer, chemical, sales, or any other field, I have
>learned, over years of having to get various things working while PhDs
>breath down my neck to "make it go", to include the following statements:
>
>Exactly what happened, STEP BY STEP, down to the most idiotic level.
>Exactly what parts of every manual you consulted, down to direct
>quotations of the parts of the manual that SHOULD have solved your problem
>but didn't, likewise for FAQ.
>
>In other words, PIN THEM TO THE WALL IN YOUR FIRST MESSAGE. Give them so
>much detail that they have no choice but to either give you some help or
>admit that their product is completely inadequate.
Actually, I have done this for my own support requests, and the response is
often the same anyway.
"Try this . . ." when my message clearly states I already did...
"Check your hardware conflicts." when I state that I did and have none...
etc etc etc
My experience with tech support in general is that they ignore what you tell
them and send you a form response which takes 3-4 weeks to get to you by
which time I have found a solution in spite of the lack of support, or have
given up on the software entirely.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Nichol)
Subject: Re: IDE RAID controllers for Linux
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:15:18 GMT
Reply-To: alexn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
bill davidsen wrote:
>On a very related issue, before motherboards had IDE, we used to buy
>ISA/EIDE/VESA IDE controllers. Now since Linux will support up to four
>controllers, is there anyone still making controllers, obviously for
>the PCI bus these days, which can be used to add the other two?
Yes. I just installed a Promise UltraDMA 33, PCI board (it was about
50 UKP with tax, - so probably $50 or $60). It supports four devices
on one IRQ (it chose 9), and leaves the m'board controllers available.
It has an internal BIOS which makes it the booting devices for DOS,
and hde to hdh for Linux, leaving the m'board as hda to hdd
I have four hard drives on it, two CDs on hda and hdb, and a HP 8100
CD-RW on hdc
SuSE 5.3 (kernel 2.0.35) installed without a murmer from its boot
floppy and the second CD, finding the controller happily, correctly
named, in its Standard EIDE kernel (rather to my surprise) and
putting Linux on hdf.
Only problem is that lilo will not run to install (though the one made
on the boot floppy by the SuSE install works) - I am using a win98
config.sys menu to set an environment variable, then run loadlin from
the autoexec.bat if it is set. Marginally more clumsy, but works well
without any interaction of the systems.
--
Alex Nichol
Bournemouth, U.K.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Subject: Solved my X gpm cut/paste problem
Date: 23 Feb 1999 14:07:08 GMT
On one of my machines I could not cut and paste under X windows.
All of the machines are set up identically with a mouseman mouse.
I tried a number of things, including a search of dejanews, to
find a solution to my problem. My son suggested what proved to
be a fix: enable 3 button emulation. Later I have found that
ChordMiddle also fixes the problem. This is strange since the
mice are all 3 button, and only one machine had the problem.
Since dejanews indicated others may have this problem I suggest:
in the file XF86Config, in the pointer section:
Section "Pointer"
Protocol "MouseMan"
Device "/dev/mouse"
Emulate3Buttons
Emulate3Timeout 50
BaudRate 1200
EndSection
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:27:16 -0800
From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Kai Henningsen wrote:
-- snip --
> Blatantly false. John is doing this. Linus isn't doing it. Read the
> damn thread!
>
> John is the one running around and saying "all you people using the
> GPL are either stupid or evil". I don't see Linus going around and
> saying similar things about the people using the BSD license.
>
> What I do see is Linus telling John to stop attacking people who use
> the GPL. And I agree completely.
I have been reading "the damn thread", for too many days now. If
_you_ have read the damn thing, you would notice that I posted the
same message to both of them. You would also notice that they have
both managed to say things uncomplimentary to _each other_. That is
all I was refering to. I don't know either Mr Torvalds OR Mr Dyson,
but I can respect them both for what they've done for freely avail
Unix(-like) systems. However, I feel it's sad that they insist on
airing what seems like a private dislike for each other in public.
That's it. Take a chill-pill. I wasn't trying to disrespect Linus
in any way.
>
> Kai
> --
> http://www.westfalen.de/private/khms/
> "... by God I *KNOW* what this network is for, and you can't have it."
> - Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Ken
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From: arnee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: su & bash shell : can't login : permission denid
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:39:14 -0800
ya, i tend to forget those parent directories... but i'm still stunned to
how it happened. plus, sometimes when i'm somewhat stuck with something i
tend to just go on usenet searching for someone to have an answer instead of
myself looking for it. it's one those things "damn it, i knew that!! why
didn't i think of it" :-)) ... well anyway, thanks for the insight!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"John W. Baxter" wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Christopher Schulte) wrote:
>
> > <grin> What caused it? That I haven't a clue! What's important is
> > you know understand one of the basic ideas in any unix-like operating
> > system: when you run into permission denied errors, check the
> > permissions, permissions, permission!!!!
>
> Or, if you're like me, check that you didn't try to execute a directory,
> by leaving off a cd or pushd command. Oddly, I seem to do that on the
> work Unix system, but not on my Linux at home. [The first few times, my
> initial reaction was: "but I'm running as root, so I have permission".
> Not to execute a directory, though. ;-) ]
>
> --John
>
> --
> If nothing is pressing, putter about with this or that.
> (Fortune cookie)
> John W. Baxter Port Ludlow, WA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Hard disk duplication??
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:15:58 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You could try the following:
http://www.jazd.com/drcopy/
or
http://www.itechs-systems.com
Cliff
Dion Burger wrote:
>
> Is there a way to duplicate a hardisk image after the linux installation.
> I need to set up multiple linux boxes (assume identical hardware). This will
> save me hours of installation and configuration time.
>
> Cheers
> Dion
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From: "Jon Wiest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:32:28 -0600
Jason Clifford wrote in message ...
>
>You really should have qualified this statement by adding that this is
>only true in relation to SMP.
>
>For single CPU systems Linux wipes the floor with WinNT - but then again
>so does every other *real* OS available for the same hardware.
>
Oh get off your high horse. NT is a "real" OS, and as for "wiping the
floor" that's pure exageration. Sure, Linux does some great things, why
else would I devote a hard drive to it? But it also does some really stupid
things. Each has their merit, and no amount of flag-waving and
slogan-chanting will change that.
Jon
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From: Gergo Barany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: changing shells
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:21:47 +0100
"Chris T." wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me on how to change shells?
Change the entry in the /etc/password file.
Gergo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles H. Chapman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Xdm, then xsession???
Date: 23 Feb 1999 13:21:23 GMT
On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:28:46 -0600, John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to set up the workstations so that they go right to xdm upon
>> bootup (that's working, no problem) and then when they log in, they get the X
>> gui, like fvwm-95 or afterstep, but all I'm getting so far is, I think, twm.
>> I tried copying .xinitrc to .xsession, as suggested in the howtos, but that
>> didn't help. Where is this set at?
>
>Change your /etc/inittab file so the line:
>
>id:3:initdefault:
>
>becomes
>
>id:5:initdefault:
>
>
>This starts xdm when you boot up.
He said he already HAD that part working. :) On my system, the file
.Xclients in my home directory is read for commands when I log in
using xdm. Try copying .xinitrc to .Xclients (maybe making a backup
of your current .Xclients, if any, beforehand).
Chuck
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From: "Bigfulla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.serial,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.apps
Subject: Re: Controlling PC via Telephone
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:25:45 +1300
pcANYWHERE uses another PC to control your other PC, it bings up an exact
image of your desktop from your other PC onto your slave PC!!
might do what you want butmabye not!
Regards,
BF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LordG)
Subject: Redhat install help needed
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:18:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok here's the deal.
I just installed a second hard drive(6.4g) in my machine so I decided
I would try some linux. I have win95 on my other drive. Using disk
druid I partitioned my second drive as follows.
1 gig for linux
32 meg for linux swapfile
I made the rest of it a primary dos patition so I could use the space
with 95
Everythings cool and I can boot linux fine but when I boot 95 explorer
shows another drive that can't be read in addition to the primary dos
partition that I made.
My question is: what is this drive and what can I do so that I won't
get drive read errors when I boot 95.
Any help would be appreciated.
Lordg G
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux?
Date: 23 Feb 1999 12:47:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shyam Govardhan wrote:
:Hi all,
:
:I have been playing with DB2 on my Linux machine for a while now and I
:am very impressed with it. I think that it would be really good if IBM
:could port Visual Age for Java to Linux. If this were to happen, then
:the Linux community would obtain a sophisticated IDE for JAVA and I also
:
:think that it would increase the popularity of DB2 on Linux.
:
:This is my opinion... What do you all think?
:
:- Shyam
Every new IDE is welcome if you ask me. I've tried Freebuilder, NetBeans but
they are just to big for a PC with low memory (48 mb's). I think that that's
the main problem with these IDE's. They have been made in Java/Swing. If
there would be a C/C++ version it would be great.
Hans
--
Java Search Engine Front End
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: verthezp@nemdev1 (Peter Verthez)
Subject: Re: tx97xe Motherboard caching limit ???
Date: 25 Feb 1999 07:11:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ambrose Kofi Laing) writes:
:
:
: I have an ASUS TX97-XE motherboard. At the time I bought it, I
: remember there was an issue with this motherboard or something else,
: which prevented the caching of RAM above 64MB. Was this caused by the
: Linux/OS then or was it something caused by the motherboard. I
: remember making up my mind that I would never need more than 64 MB
: anyway, so I didn't care. Now I do.
:
: In short. With Linux 2.0.36, RH5.1 and P200MMX/TX97-XE, can I use
: 96MB (32+64) or 128MB?
I have an ASUS TX97 motherboard too. You can use more than 64 MB
with any operating system, but only 64 MB of that will be cached (and
that is a restriction of the motherboard, not of the operating system).
So basically, everything higher than 64 MB will have a higher
access time.
Peter.
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____________________________________________________________________
Peter Verthez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software Engineer Network Mgt. Tel: (+32 3) 451 28 14 | Alcanet:
Alcatel Telecom, dept. XE60 Fax: (+32 3) 451 28 03 | (6)2681
____________________________________________________________________
Complexity is easy; simplicity is hard.
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From: sven vahar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office - Registration?????
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:44:31 +0200
> As the one who asked this said the _setup_ wanted a key, I assumed
> that he meant the key which enables installation (was it called
> personal key?) and thus he can't even see the dialog where can
> StarDivision's site be contacted for registering.
> That's how I understood it.
major confusion here, folks.
you all described steps needed for acquiring the key for old version of
so5. they have changed the process with their new version so501. yes, it
used to be that you downloaded and registered _after_ the installation.
now you are given just one key plus customer number, not personal key
and registration key as they used to. it took me for a while to figure
out what i was doing wrong - i had old so5 installation but had lost my
key - so i got there, to dl section, key was generated... but it was not
correct for my old version. he must have done vice-versa - dolwnloaded
from somewhere else and thus having no key to even start installation.
though, i must say - now the registration process makes much more sense.
now they even tell you that you have to enable cookies on your browser,
the did not tell you that when first so5 came out and many poors souls
wondered why on earth they can't register :)
sven
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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDPD wireless and Linux
Date: 25 Feb 1999 00:03:27 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Do any of the PCMCIA CDPD wireless modems work with Linux?
> If so, which cards and service providers have you tried
> and what have been your experiences with them?
See http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/cdpd.html
--
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
Cellphone information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/cell/
Libretto information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/
Linux Printing HOWTO: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Max Tulyev)
Subject: PPP problem - invalid numeric parameter 'modem' for asyncmap option
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:25:20 +0200
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At 20 Feb 99 19:35:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to All:
h> Feb 20 18:29:14 localhost pppd[1152]: invalid numeric parameter
h> 'modem' for
h> asyncmap option
In pppd parameters is something like "asyncmap modem". Remove "asyncmap"
word.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reality is a point of view)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux?
Date: 25 Feb 1999 08:10:55 GMT
+---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:47:02 +0000):
| the quietest unfortunately. The purpose of stating the press release
| the way it was stated was to gauge public opinion about the option of
| re-introducing runtimes for certain customers (also to see if the 90%
| price reduction could justify runtimes or a deployment license). We
| shall see...
+----
Wow, gotta admire that MIS culture. Mix it with a little
vendor lock and it is powerful enough to hold back one of the
best languages around!
Meanwhile, back at adequate cheapness, C, C++, Java, all at
unbeatable prices and unbeatable fees. I wonder if Eiffel
vendors will booth, at least one ported a long time ago.
As IBM's focus seems to have moved from Smalltalk to Java, and
they are rumored to have upcoming announcements of interest,
and have been releasing source without entanglement, wouldn't
it be funny if they anounced adequately cheap VA Smalltalk,
maybe with full source? Hmmm, maybe not. They have been in
anti trust trouble before, and such a move could kill
ObjectShare's VW Smalltalk . . .
--
Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Privacy on the net is still illegal.
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From: Peter Granroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove patch
Date: 23 Feb 1999 15:01:14 +0100
Massimo Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> I would like to compile kernel 2.2.2 patching kernel 2.2.1ac4.
> For doing so I have to "patch back" to kernel 2.2.1 and then patch it
> again for updating it to kernel 2.2.2.
> I remember a page that says how to remove a patch but I'm not able to
> find it.
> the man is hot helping me :(
Use the -R option to 'patch', i.e:
cd /usr/src/linux
patch -R -p1 < ../patch-2.2.1-ac4
cd ..
patch -p0 < patch-2.2.2
--
==================================
+ Peter Granroth +
+ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +
+ http://193.10.242.45 +
==================================
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From: "Abrie Jordaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Auditing for the mailboxes on my linux server
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:06:46 +0200
I need a program to record the the following information on my linux
mailserver (normal linux box with pop and smtp functions) in a textfile :
1)The mailboxnames,
2)Next to the mailboxnames---, the size of each mailbox
3)The number of messages in each mailbox
can anybody tell me where i can get this program or any suggestions on
accomplishing the above.I am not very experienced with linux.
Your replies will be much appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MS)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: how do I change resolution?
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:34:07 GMT
When the calendar showed "Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:59:12 +0100", the lazy ""TomWolf"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" pressed the following keys on the keyboard:
>I have just installed redhat 5.2 but I cant open xwindows because I got the
>wrong resolution. How do I change the resolution?
>Please email me the answere at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Wtih love and respect
>Tom
usually you set the resolutions at the end of the xconfigurator process, but
only if you don't select the chipset. Once you set em, you can switch between em
while in the X using "CTRL" + "+(num.keypad)". When you've found the most
correct reslution, I suggest you to set that as the only one to load at the
startx process. (gotta be at least 800x600, or you'll experience problems with
big windows).
hope I was helpful,
bye
MS^tCF98/BL98/ICE98
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ UIN:20712139 (theEraser)
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From: Stephan Skrodzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: AGP Graphics card?
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:16:57 +0000
Kyle Fink wrote:
>
> Don't buy new hardware get Xi Graphics, Accelerated-X Display Server. It
> will double the performance of the hardware you already have. Try our free
> demo to see for your self: http://www.xig.com/support/demo2.html.
Kyle, your Xi Server does _not_ (regarding the docs
http://www.xig.com/board/ax/sis.html) support 8 Meg on Sis6326, and -
furthermore - I can't get it to work with my fixed frequency HP98754A.
And - besides all these remarks... I think a price of $125 is a IMHO a
little bit to much for the Linux world... I'd spend arund $50 for a
commercial server, not much more...
Regards
Steve
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===========================================================================
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the |
| Mannheim, Germany Spanish
Inquisition!" |
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From: Phil Snowdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting without a keyboard
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:12:57 +0000
>
> Wouldn't it be easier just to leave a cheap keyboard plugged in ?
>
Probably, but where's the fun in that? It would also get in the way, I
don't have much space for it.
BTW. Still doesn't work, tried 2.0.34 and 2.2.0 kernels. Is there two
pins I can short together to make it think it has a keyboard?
The motherboard is an old ISA/VLB/PCI no-name thing with an AMI bios. I
wouldn't be surprised is that is at fault.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin )
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 99 09:29:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin )
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>if its advocates (or at least a significant proportion of them) want to
>>expand out into the serious commercial world, it does need better
>>development tools - we stopped hand carving big commercial systems in C
>>or its equivalents a long time ago and would not want to return to that
>>any time soon...
>
>It's funny how viewpoints differ.
>
>In the IS department I work for, we still use a number of older (and
>often proprietary) languages which many in the Linux community would
>likely (rightly so in some case, not in others) deem crufty. But we're
>generally not developing new systems for the most part, just modifying
>existing ones or creating new subsystems within existing environments.
>
>From what I've seen, the ddd/gdb combination seems relatively nice as a
>basic debugging environment, though I've not gotten into anything much
>beyond very simply console programs yet.
>
>Nothing wrong with C as long as you organize things properly.
>
Obviously, if you are maintaining existing systems, you have no choice but to
use the original tools that they were implemented in. But for developing new
systems you need to use the highest productivity tools available if you are
going to win competitive bids and make a profit from the contract. C is a
perfectly fine language to implement system level stuff, but its terrible for
large screen oriented data-entry and reporting systems. On one project I
worked on recently, the reporting sub-system alone took more than two
man-years even using one of the most powerful report-writers available - if
that had been hand-carved in C the effort required would have been
astronomical and the chances of getting it substantially correct would have
been small to say the least...
Martin
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From: "The Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CREATE_HOME ????
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:25:52 -0800
After installing SRP I keep getting the following message:
configuration error - unknown item 'CREATE_HOME' (notify administrator)
does anyone know what that means?
Thanks,
Robert.
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:49:53 -0500
> Oh get off your high horse. NT is a "real" OS, and as for
> "wiping the floor" that's pure exageration. Sure, Linux does
> some great things, why else would I devote a hard drive to it?
> But it also does some really stupid things. Each has their
> merit, and no amount of flag-waving and slogan-chanting will
> change that.
>
> Jon
Well put! It's about time people started talking about where each OS
is most appropriate than pretending that one OS is somehow entirely
better than the other.
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph L. Wood, III)
Subject: Re: gunzip to another partition
Date: 23 Feb 1999 14:18:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Surfer Netzbetrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have to unzip a 200MB-File, but no partition to take both, the
> original an the decompressed file (600MB). How can I pipe the output ? I
> tried ">" or "|" already!
>
>
> How can I pipe tar -xvf <file> ?
>
Place the source file on a suitable file system.
Create an empty work directory on a desitnation file system with enough space
to hold the un-zipped results.
Create a symbolic link in the work directory back to the source file
using "ln -s". See 'man ln' for details.
Unzip to your heart's content.
Joe Wood
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