Linux-Misc Digest #175, Volume #21 Mon, 26 Jul 99 20:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Problem with ftape after upgrading to RH 6.0 (A E Lawrence)
Re: latest netscape ("Anita Lewis")
Re: Using alsa-sound drivers with the Trident 4d Wave sound cards (Markus Heinz)
Need Help with Installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Gary Stollman)
Re: Problem of Soundblaster pnp 16 with redhat 5.2 (Tsmanlyman)
Re: CIA assassinations ("Mav")
Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Kenneth P Kennedy)
(HELP) config ISAPNP/soundcard (Skaumal Erwin)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Chris Lee)
Re: latest netscape (Joe)
Re: High load average, low cpu usage when /home NFS mounted (Peter Steiner)
Re: Where can I get a pre-installd Linux box for $250? ("Youngert")
New Linux web site (Mike Angelo)
Re: Loadable Modules...Help (Bob Martin)
Re: Process incoming mail with a script. (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Matthew Hunter)
RH6.0 Upgrade partition problem?? (Win Heagy)
Re: Write permissions on dos paritions? (Stewart Honsberger)
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From: A E Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Problem with ftape after upgrading to RH 6.0
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:59:29 +0100
Derrick Boucher wrote:
>
> I had a similar (identical?) problem. After slogging through man pages, I
> finally solved it. I performed a "custom" installation and, apparently,
> the ftape module was NOT included in the kernel.
>
> I followed the replies that Michael got to his original post, and not one
> "expert" suggested this fix. Apparently it was too obvious to mention.
>
> Here are my notes on my fix:
> --------------------------------
> After installing RH6.0, I inserted a tape and ran the command:
>
> mt -f /dev/ftape status
>
> (Returned: No such device.)
>
> As root, I entered the /dev/ directory and:
>
> ./MAKEDEV ftape
>
> (mt still returned no such device)
>
> As root, I went to /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/misc wherein there were two
> "modules" ftape.o and zftape.o .
>
> I entered the following:
>
> insmod ftape
> insmod zftape
>
> Then, (this may not have been necessary, as the sym. links were already in
> /dev/) I ran the MAKEDEV command again from /dev.
>
> I then inserted a tape and "mt -f /dev/ftape status" fired up the tape
> drive and gave a status report. 30 minutes later, I did a backup of some
> crucial files I saved in RH5.1 using the "tar" command.
> ----------------------------
>
> I must say that I have found many parts of Linux obvious but the HOWTOs
> and man pages are nearly useless if one is missing a crucial bit of
> information. In my case, these bits were that:
>
> 1. ftape is NOT included in the 2.2.5-15 kernel, contrary to the ftape
> documentation (maybe Red Hat removed it?)
>
> 2. The connection between the kernel an "modules". Am I to understand that
> these are compiled object codes that just have to linked to the kernel
> executable? This is a simple concept that I never really came accross
> before.
>
> Now I can get back to doing some physics on my linux box!
>
> De r r i c k . .. _ __ _______ __o
> Bo u c h e r . .. _ __ _____ _-\<,_
> (_)/ (_)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Derrick E. Boucher (570) 208-5900 ext. 5427
> Assistant Professor of Physics (570) 825-9049 FAX
> King's College [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 133 N. River St.
> Wilkes-Barre PA 18711
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On 28 Jun 1999, Michael Davis wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had had ftape working nicely, I backed up my system and did an
> > upgrade from RH5.1 to 6.0.
> >
> > But now ftape no longer works:
> >
> > /tmp/etc # cd /dev
> > /dev # ls -l ftape
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Aug 26 1998 ftape -> rft0
> > /dev # ls -l rft0
> > crw-rw---- 1 root disk 27, 0 May 5 1998 rft0
> > /dev # lsmod
> > Module Size Used by
> > ppp 18316 2 (autoclean)
> > slhc 4328 1 (autoclean) [ppp]
> > pnp 45284 0
> > emu8k 38600 0
> > opl3 13228 0
> > sb 31964 0
> > uart401 6740 0 [sb]
> > midi 27528 0 [pnp emu8k opl3 sb uart401]
> > soundbase 481092 0 [pnp emu8k opl3 sb uart401 midi]
> > sndshield 4784 0 [pnp emu8k opl3 sb uart401 midi
> > soundbase]
> > ftape 105844 0 (autoclean) (unused)
> > nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean)
> > msdos 8220 1 (autoclean)
> > fat 25664 1 (autoclean) [msdos]
> > /dev # tar tf /dev/ftape
> > tar: Cannot open /dev/ftape: No such device
> > tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> >
> > Has anyone else had this problem?
This is a rather old message, but you should *not* have ftape compiled
into the kernel. Instaed go to the home site
http://www-math.math.rwth-aachen.de/~LBFM/claus/ftape/
and collect the latest "unstable" (it isn't) version and install that.
ael
--
Dr A E Lawrence (from home)
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From: "Anita Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: latest netscape
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:51:10 GMT
Since you are using RedHat, it would be best to go to
ftp://updates.redhat.com for that rpm. Then you can rpm -e the old and
bring in the new one. I used the binaries because I did not know this. You
would use glibc if you want to go that route.
Anita
kev wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I'm using Red Hat 6, and am running Netscape Communicator 4.51 which I
>use for browsing, newsgroups and email. Because it keeps crashing
>whenever it gets a sniff of Java, I want to upgrade to Netscape 4.6.
>I've been to the Netscape site, they have two Linux versions: linux and
>linux (glibc). What's the difference?
>Which one do I want? and if I install it, will it write over or delete
>all my current data?
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Kev
>
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From: Markus Heinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using alsa-sound drivers with the Trident 4d Wave sound cards
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:47:54 +0200
I use a sound card with Trident 4D Wave DX with Suse Linux 6.1. I
installed version 0.3.2 of the alsa-drivers. I have faced the problem
described, too. The manpage for the amixer seems to be outdated. You can
get help from amixer itself. Try something like amixer -help. I can't
remember the exact command. But I use the following commands to unmute
the mixer and increase the volume:
amixer eset 'Master Volume',0,Volume1 80
amixer eset 'PCM Volume',0,Volume1 100
amixer eset 'CD Volume',0,Volume1 100
amixer eset 'Master Switch',0,Switch2 on
amixer eset 'PCM Switch',0,Switch2 on
amixer eset 'CD Switch',0,Switch2 on
Markus Heinz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need Help with Installation
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:34:24 GMT
I have a copy of Linux 2.0.30 (Slakware 3.4) on CD that I'd like to
install on my machine (currently running Windows 98), but I'm rather
confused on how to start. The help files that I've been able to unearth
are cryptic and haven't been all that helpful. If anyone can explain
what to do, or point me in the right direction, I'd very much appreciate
it.
Chuck
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Gary Stollman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:59:14 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jdm wrote:
> like to remove copy protection from commercial programs. People who like
> to break into computers systems, regardless of whether or not they cause
> damage, are infantile punks.
Some people even do it for a living (it's called auditing).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tsmanlyman)
Subject: Re: Problem of Soundblaster pnp 16 with redhat 5.2
Date: 26 Jul 1999 21:59:27 GMT
I had the same problem. What you need to do is play with your conf.modules and
isapnp.conf -- a lot. Remember, conf.modules and isapbp.conf -must- match. Good
luck.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
From: "Mav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:29:26 GMT
>
>> Get back to me after you've worked in one for 20 years. And who were
>> all those people who sneered at you until you made excuses for why you
>> were working there? Clearly, you and they both felt that being a
>> factory worker was demeaning, something you only did temporarily until
>> you could get a "real" job.
>
>Wrong. Totaly taken out of perspective. The people who sneered were just
>one or two steps above me. And it was a real job, but not for someone with
>my education.
>
So that type of work is for the uneducated (or just poorly educated)?
Mav
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From: Kenneth P Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:42:01 -0600
There are currently two meanings for each of these words in the computer
world. As far as programming and software goes, a hacker is one who
twists the language/commands to find a way to get it to do something it
wasn't intended to do, and a cracker is someone who `cracks' the code for
software to be able to use it illegally. As far as network security is
concerned, a hacker is someone who breaks into systems (sometimes his/her
own) to either help, learn, or prove it can be done, without damaging
anything whereas a cracker is someone who does the same thing with the
purpose of destroying or damaging the system or data. Let's not fight
over the meaning of the terminalogy and get back to the main issues of
this discussion.
-ken-
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
On 26 Jul 1999, jdm wrote:
[DELETE]
> > >You mean crackers not hackers. Hackers don't try to break into
> computers.
> >
> > Yes they do - they just don't do damage. Instead, many of them (rightly
> so!)
> > capitalize on their abilities by selling the solution to the problem to
> the
> > people who own the computer they "hacked" into.
> >
> > Crackers are the kiddies who crack into computers in order to cause
> damage.
>
> Hackers are people who like to get computers and software to work, or to do
> things they were'nt originally designed to do. Crackers are people who
> like to remove copy protection from commercial programs. People who like
> to break into computers systems, regardless of whether or not they cause
> damage, are infantile punks.
>
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From: Skaumal Erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (HELP) config ISAPNP/soundcard
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:52:13 +0000
Need Help with config ISAPNP and the Soundcard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 22:11:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>"CL" == "Chris Lee" writes:
>
>CL> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>CL> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>CL> >
>CL> >"CL" == "Chris Lee" writes:
>CL> >
>CL> >CL> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>CL> >CL> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>CL> >CL> >
>CL> >CL> >"CL" == "Chris Lee" writes:
>CL> >CL> >
>CL> >CL> >CL> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CL> >CL> >CL> says...
>CL> >CL> >CL> >
>CL> >CL> >CL> >
>CL> >CL> >CL> >
>CL> >CL> >CL> >Chris Lee wrote:
>CL> >CL> >CL> >>
>CL> >CL> >CL> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>CL> >CL> >CL> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>CL> >CL> >CL> >> >
>CL> >CL> >CL
>CL> >CL> >CL> Who says it's the best? Amiga users? Give me a
>CL> >CL> >CL> break....
>CL> >CL> >CL>
>CL> >CL> >No I say it is and I've used many platforms. You know
>CL> >CL> >nothing about miami or its ease of use and connection, nor
>CL> >CL> >any of it power. So you are again speaking out of
>CL> >CL> >ignorance, and making a complete fool out of yourself..
>CL> >CL>
>CL> >CL> Miami is better and more powerful than PPPD? Sure it is
>CL> >CL> dude. Suuure it is....NOT.
>CL> >Give it up DUDE! You know NOTHING about Miami, and I've seen
>CL> >from your previous post that you are completely CLUELESS, and
>CL> >you continue to make an ass out of yourself.
>CL> >
>CL> >Just stop....you're embarassing yourself.
>CL>
>CL> I tried Miami out on my A3000. I wasn't impressed by it. Have you
>CL> tried using PPPD on a linux machine? Didn't think so....
>CL>
>
>Dude miami and miam Deluxe are two completnly differnt things. It is
>obvious that you have NEVER tried Maima Deluxe and you don't have a
>clue as to what you are talking about. I've tired to warn you , but
>you cotinue to make a complete Fool out of yourslef. It is getting
>pathtetic now...give it up for gods sake before you are banded as a
>complete IDIOT and added to everyones killfiiles. Yoiu have been
>warned....
>
>regards,
Now it's Miami Deluxe instead of Miami now is it?
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From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: latest netscape
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:10:03 GMT
It's probably easiest to go to one of the updates pages from
www.redhat.com/mirrors.html and download the rpm files.
kev wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using Red Hat 6, and am running Netscape Communicator 4.51 which I
> use for browsing, newsgroups and email. Because it keeps crashing
> whenever it gets a sniff of Java, I want to upgrade to Netscape 4.6.
> I've been to the Netscape site, they have two Linux versions: linux and
> linux (glibc). What's the difference?
> Which one do I want? and if I install it, will it write over or delete
> all my current data?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Kev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: High load average, low cpu usage when /home NFS mounted
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:29:57 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Kimoto wrote:
>> All tasks are counted that are either TASK_RUNNING,
>> TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE or TASK_SWAPPING.
>
>Okay, but try the following experiment on an NFS client:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>while /bin/true; do
> cat > /dev/null LIST_OF_LONG_NFS_MOUNTED_FILES
>done
Your tasks are doing I/O. They are most likely in the state
TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE and thus increasing the load. That's expected
behaviour. Load does not mean "CPU load" but more generally "system
load".
Peter
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From: "Youngert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where can I get a pre-installd Linux box for $250?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:41:09 -0400
Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ni649$qfq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
> Is there any companies out there ont he web that are selling Linux
> boxes (Intel-based) running Redhat 6 for about $250? I heard somthing
> about some kind of consumer boxes being pushed by Prodigy sometime soon;
> but these sounded like more client boxes: I want to run a web and mail
server.
> If not for $250, what's the cheapest boxes on the net?
> Thanks
> for any info.
>
I just read the Ads from CompUSA for this week. It says on the front page
of the ads:
Intel Celeron Processor 400 MHz PC only US$99.99**
-- 64MB RAM
-- 4.3 GB Hard Drivve
-- 40X CDROM Drive
-- 56K/14.4 Data/Fax Modem
-- CompUSA PC 15" .28 Color Monitor
-- Canon BJC-1000 Bubble Jet Printer
** After savings and mail-in rebate with sign-up for 36 months of compuserve
internet service.
It really is not US$99.99 computer because you have to pay 36xUS$21.95 =
US$790.20 compuserve internet service. This is a rip-off!
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS. Please remove 4 from the reply address should you decide to reply.
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From: Mike Angelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Linux web site
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:27:39 -0400
We are pleased to announce a new web site at www.linux-driver.com. Although
the name may imply that this is a driver repository, we will try to offer a
site with virtually everything needed to get Linux running, and running
smoothly on your Linux box.
We want to offer this as a community site, so feel free to send us
suggestions, links, drivers, and the like to us via our web site.
We are compiling a site for everyone from newbies to sys admins(and
beyond).
Thanks!
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Loadable Modules...Help
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:25:23 +0000
Brad Stevenson wrote:
>
> I haven't found the Debian specific info for recompiling the kernel, so I'll
> keep looking. I do know however, that I don't have a /usr/src/linux
> directory. Probably a dead give away that things are done different with
> Debian.
>
There really shouldn't be any distribution specifics for compiling the
kernel. Your problem is likely the distribution did not install the
kernel sources by default, as indicated by the fact you don't have a
/usr/src/linux directory. RH only installs the header files, so you
need to get the kernel source opackage and install it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Process incoming mail with a script.
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:26:41 GMT
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:16:24 -0400, Mike Galler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
>I need to have a c program run whenever mail is received. Do you know
>how I would do this? If I just replace 'script' with 'c program' in the
>example
>below, would that work? (Maybe with the mail readable off of stdin?) Or
>is
>that too much to hope for? Any other ideas on how to do this?
Use your .forward file.
---
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Hunter)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:55:19 GMT
On 26 Jul 1999 11:39:41 GMT, in comp.os.linux.misc,
Ashley Penney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 26 Jul 1999 06:01:43 GMT, Darren Winsper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) gabbered:
>:On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:34:42 GMT, Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:> Give it up DUDE! You know NOTHING about Miami, and I've seen from
>:> your previous post that you are completely CLUELESS, and you continue
>:> to make an ass out of yourself.
>:Just out of interest, what are the advantages of Miami over pppd?
>You've stirred up the Amiga nutcases, RUN DARREN! Run and don't look back or
>you will see the horde of Amiga fanatics frantically clutching their rather
>pathetically outdated hardware. Run.
Hey, there are some sensible Amigans. I used to be one. I still
follow the news and hope for a rebirth of some kind. But, having been
on both sides of this dispute in the past, I see both sides now
throwing inaccuracies at the other. There's no point in infighting
here; the Amiga has its advantages over Linux, and Linux has some over
the Amiga. They are, to put it simply, different things.
On Miami vs pppd: well, first off, you can't compare the two directly.
Miami is a full TCP/IP stack implementation that happens to be heavily
oriented towards ppp/dialup use. In Linux, the kernel contains much of
that functionality.
That said, Miami is a damn nice implementation; pretty GUI, fast. and
stable. It IS a port of the BSD stack, in essence, but it's a
substantial port; Holger Kruse has done a lot of work on it. I don't
know if Miami is better than the Linux/pppd combination at dialup use,
or better in general use, but I doubt it's any worse. And this is the
effort of one guy, whose products on the Amiga were some of the most
stable on that platform.
On Linux TCP/IP shortcomings: From everything I've seen, the points
Holger raised were all valid points at one time, and have since been
fixed. I suspect Holger doesn't operate by testing the latest
implementations and reading the code in detail, but instead just works
with the problems he happens to run into as a TCP/IP stack developer.
Most kernels out there are probably not getting regularly updated, so
the problems don't go away for him even after they and fixed on Linux.
Not to mention, the poor guy had just been blindsided by a very rapid
about-face on a platform he obviously likes enough to continue
developing heavily for despite quite a few years of absolutely nothing.
He's not going to go digging up positive things to say about the event
when he has had some definite negative experiences with it.
I don't think he was right on all his points, but they can't be
casually dismissed either.
On Holger's competence: In addition to Miami, Miami Deluxe, and
ppp.device (all basically networking products), he's written an X
server for the Amiga. Also a very nice product. He knows his stuff,
and I'll trust his motives.
--
Matthew Hunter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (Linux/ex-Amiga)
Currently reading: Dracula (Bram Stoker)
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
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From: Win Heagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.0 Upgrade partition problem??
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:36:29 -0400
During the upgrade from RH5.2 to RH6.0, I get an error that
says 'You don't have any Linux partitions. You can't
upgrade this system!' I boot the system with the
boot floppy included with 6.0, select 'Upgrade', and after I
answer NO to the SCSI adapter question, I get the above error
message and cannot continue. The same thing happens when I try
the EXPERT upgrade.
Any ideas? I have no problems with 5.2, but get this problem
on the 6.0 upgrade.
Thanks...Win
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Write permissions on dos paritions?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:13:58 GMT
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:26:50 -0400, Patrick Berge wrote:
>Why don't non-root users have write accress to Dos files?
Default security settings, me thinks.
If you want to leave your system wide open (IE: anyone and his brother can
access your entire DOS partition unrestricted), add "umask=0" to the options
section (IE: rw,umask=0).
This tells Linux not to leave any bit unset. (IE: *rwxrwxrwx).
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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