Linux-Misc Digest #191, Volume #21 Wed, 28 Jul 99 01:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: repartitioning worries (Michel Catudal)
Re: "You have new mail" ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: POP Mail? (Lindoze 2000)
Re: Good IRC client for Linux? (LelaB)
Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (mlw)
Re: spin down HDD (Lindoze 2000)
Re: How do you add pseudo tty's (Dave Brown)
Re: boot without fsck? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: How to use lpr -s switch? -r doesn't work.... (John McKown)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Frank Hart)
IDE Tape Problems (Paul Schmidt)
D-Link 530 TX (Lindoze 2000)
Re: cant get IP masquerade to work (Ted Sikora)
Re: Apache upgrade - quick question (Ted Sikora)
KDE/GNOME ICONS WON'T GO AWAY IN MANDRAKE (ryan)
Re: Need script to convert filenames from UPPER to lower (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Lindoze 2000)
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: repartitioning worries
Date: 27 Jul 1999 21:26:04 -0500
"Brian D. Jones" wrote:
>
> I've got a 8GB hard drive with 2GB wasted in a Dos partition, which I
> now realize is useless. I'd like to trash that partition, and use it
> under Linux, but I don't want to have to go through potential problems
> of not being able to boot, seeing other partitions, etc. If I just
> delete the partition using fdisk and add another one in its place and
> then reboot, will I be ok? This is what fdisk says my partition table
> is:
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 255 2048256 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
> /dev/hda2 256 1025 6185025 5 Extended
> /dev/hda5 256 258 24066 83 Linux
> /dev/hda6 259 450 1542208+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda7 451 578 1028128+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda8 597 595 136521 83 Linux
> /dev/hda9 596 1012 3349521 83 Linux
> /dev/hda10 1013 1025 104391 83 Linux
>
> I use LILO and pretty much the defaults from RH 6.0. Thanks!
>
> brian
If your boot is on the MBR or on diskette you shouldn't have
a problem. Run fdisk from the console, no graphic mode at all.
type t and then it asks you which partition and you say 1
then replace the c code with 83
Do not mess the Extended partition and everything will be OK.
Changing the code on hda2 would trash the partition hda5 to hda10,
assuming that fdisk would let you do it.
Type w and this saves the change. Type q to quit fdisk.
You will then have to format the partition to ext2.
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Subject: Re: "You have new mail"
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Jul 1999 20:29:53 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (david grant) writes:
> Sometime ago I saw the way to stop the sendmail daemon from sending
> messages to the spool file at startup on RH6.0 but unfortunately I
> never saved the response.
>
> Can somebody tell me how to inhibit this as I would like to use
> fetchmail plus an email client to read my (real) messages and stop
> using VMWare+ Eudora even though the latter is so easy to do.
>
> I have tried all the X-windows based linux email programs but the only
> decent one catering for multiple pop servers is XFMail, which crashes
> and is not being maintained.
XEmacs has a mail reader called VM which is capable of multi pop
sessions among other things.
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From: Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: POP Mail?
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:51:44 -0400
Andrew Dolan wrote:
>
> >anyone know how to tell if POP mail is running ?
>
> If you are using, say, Netscape, you need to know the address of the Pop3
> server that your email is hosted on, contact your support staff to find this
> out.
I would have to be my own support staff. I'm trying to read mail from my
own Linux server. I know the addy. nutscrape does connect to it. but i'm
not seeing any mail.
>
> >then how can I setup some pop client like netscape to read it.
>
> Go to the preferences section and then go to Mail & Newsgroups. Add a new
> POP3 server.
>
> >I have only IP addys, no Public Domain names (no company.com)
> >How do you send someone email useing IP addresses?
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work.
>
> As far as I know, you can't, although it may work if you give the IP address
> of the mail server... I have never tried it.
>
> Ian.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LelaB)
Crossposted-To: alt.irc.questions
Subject: Re: Good IRC client for Linux?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:50:47 GMT
On 20 Jul 1999 18:17:34 -0700, "Noah Roberts (jik-)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stefan Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking for a good IRC client for Linux/X11. I'm used to mIRC a bit,
>> but that isn't available for X, is it?
>
>ircii as the engine, and tkirc as the gui front end. Then you have an
>irc client for console AND X. Also tkirc is the best X irc IMHO, and
>I have tried those that other people mentioned and they didn't stand
>under scrutiny.
if you use W.I.N.E. you can run mirc and many other windows apps under
linux if you so choose
Lela
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:21:08 +0000
Todd Knarr wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Correctly versioned Windows .DLL files are a far better model for
> > distributing binary software objects than are Linux (UNIX) shared
> > libraries.
>
> Actually, Linux/UNIX have had versioned shared libraries longer than
> DLLs, at least when it comes to supporting multiple versions installed
> at the same time. Much of the Windows "DLL Hell" simply doesn't exist
> in UNIX, because a program that needs version 6 of a shared library can
> simply have version 6 installed without touching versions 4 and 5. The
> problem is that, UNIX or Windows, you can't have multiple versions of
> the same DLL/shared library active in the same executable at the same
> time, at least in general, because the internals of the libraries may
> differ in incompatible ways ( you can pull it off in certain cases, but
> you have to jump through a lot of hoops to insure that no instance of
> a library ever touches resources created by or being managed by another
> instance of the same library ).
You account of the weakness in Linux shared libraries are exacty why
they are bad for binary distribution of software.
>
> UNIX/Linux shared libraries have problems, but they're a subset of the
> problems that exist with Windows DLLs. And the new symbol versioning in
> glibc2.1 solves even more problems with shared libraries.
>
I completely disagree with you. Windows .DLL are only bad because they
have not been versioned in the past. Today .DLL files like MSVC40 and
MSVC42 can easily co-exist. In fact, a .DLL file that uses a MSVC40
routine fubar() can be used with a MSVC50 application that also uses a
fubar() routine, each function will use the correct fubar() routine.
Windows .DLL models are not as easy to produce as linux shared
libraries, but they do abstract the internals and protect the user of a
shared library.
Windows .DLL files are a much better design for binary distribution.
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Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: spin down HDD
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:55:20 -0400
do I need syslogd at all?
if I kill it, will I have problems?
Helge Hafting wrote:
>
> Lindoze 2000 wrote:
> >
> > I use hdparm to spin down my HDD after 1/2 hr or so.
> > the problem is, it spins up again after 1/2 hr. then it spins back down.
> > has anyone had that problem?
> > why wont it stay asleep?
> > the system seems idle. no hdd activity detected.
>
> This could be syslog. It will write to /ver/log/syslog
> now and then, even if nothing happens. (So you may know
> the last time the machine was alive - if it ever dies.)
>
> Check if /var/log/syslog contains "-- MARK --" now and then.
> This is configurable, you can turn off the MARKing by
> adding the parameter "-m 0" at the place syslogd starts.
> This is probably in /etc/init.d somewhere.
>
> Helge Hafting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: How do you add pseudo tty's
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jul 99 02:56:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Cripe wrote:
>My machine currently has ttyp1 - ttyp47 in /dev. I'd like to have at
>least 100 pseudo tty's for some software that I'm testing. I've found
>...
The command is mknod. There's a manpage.
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Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: boot without fsck?
Date: 27 Jul 1999 23:54:56 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Grimm wrote:
> Could I just remount with the hd as ro?
Well, some directories need to be writable (e.g., /tmp, /etc, /var?).
Is it possible to run a Linux system where those directories are on
a ramdisk and everything else is on a ro-mounted disk? (If so, what
would you be able to do with it?)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to use lpr -s switch? -r doesn't work....
Date: 28 Jul 1999 04:00:17 GMT
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 05:46:13 GMT, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[big snip]
>
>So it seems it wouldn't be difficult to parse the subject line for the file
>name, but I'm not sure how to automatically start such a script upon
>reception of mail.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Eric
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry about the delay in replying. I've been trying to think of a way to
start a script upon receipt of an email message. So far, I'm coming up
empty. My best guess at this point would be to have a script start up
in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (or whatever) which looks for new mail and then
sleeps for a minute or two before trying again. I can't think of one
that would be "event driven".
good luck!
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hart)
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:13:39 GMT
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:36:06 +0600, Paymaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Wrong, wrong, wrong. This is entertaining, and please don't shut anyone
>up. What you could do, is to contribute to the thread in a way that
>would switch the topic slightly--which would result in more
>participation and reinvigorated flaming and thus increase the enjoyment
>of the onlooker.
Sorry, my temper got away with me. Buit I just can't stand it if
someone is flaming others all the time. And off topic flaming too. But
this thread still doesn't belong in comp.os.linux*.
Frank hart
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From: Paul Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IDE Tape Problems
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Date: 28 Jul 1999 03:36:51 GMT
Has anyone had luck getting a Sony SuperStation 10GB IDE tape drive to
work? This thing is driving me crazy and I would appreciate any help in
the matter. The tape drive is recognized at boot up, here is the message I
get:
Jul 27 19:42:18 bigbertha kernel: hdc: SuperStation-Int, ATAPI TAPE drive
There are two problems. One is when I do a mt -f /dev/ht0 status I get the
following:
[root@bigbertha /root]# mt -f /dev/ht0 status
Unknown tape drive type (type code 0)
File number=0, block number=0.
mt_resid: 0, mt_erreg: 0x0
mt_dsreg: 0x400, mt_gstat: 0x0
General status bits on (0):
Not exactly getting off to a good start :) Just for kicks I tried backing
up some data anyway with tar and it does write out some data but then it
timesout after about a minute or so and I get messages like this:
Jul 25 12:34:56 bigbertha kernel: hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Jul 25 12:34:56 bigbertha kernel: hdc: ATAPI reset complete
Jul 25 12:34:56 bigbertha kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = a, key =
2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
Jul 25 12:34:56 bigbertha last message repeated 18 times
Jul 25 12:34:56 bigbertha kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = a, key =
2, asc = 4, ascq = 1
Jul 25 12:34:59 bigbertha last message repeated 81 times
Jul 25 12:34:59 bigbertha kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1, key =
2, asc = 4, ascq = 1
I'm not sure what all this means. Does this mean the tape drive itself is
hosed, that the media is screwed up, the cabling is fubar or what?
Specs:
Abit BP6 + dual celeron 450A, 128MB ram,
RH 6.0 distribution with monolithic kernel 2.2.5-22 SMP build. I also
tried the non-SMP build just for kicks but I had the same problems.
I'm completely lost :( Sorry for the cross-posting but I'm desperate.
Thanks,
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From: Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: D-Link 530 TX
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:52:56 -0400
has anyone gotten this network problem?
D-Link 530 TX card
Linux tells me:
"something wicked has happened: 1080"
or
"something wicked has happened: 1083"
or
"something wicked has happened: 1081"
what is that?
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From: Ted Sikora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cant get IP masquerade to work
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:29:52 GMT
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Ian Richard Petersen wrote:
>
> I am running mandrake 5.2 on my linux machine at home. It is connected to
> my work via a modem and ppp. It as an assigned IP number of 131.236.2.209
> and the gateway at work is 131.236.2.1. I have a second PC at home running
> windows 95 and a home ethernet lan. On this lan, the linux machine is
> 192.168.200.3 and the win 95 machine is 192.169.200.2. Both machines can
> ping each other and I have samba working. However, I cant seem to get
> IP masquerade to work.
>
> using the redhat network tool I have under intefaces
>
> eth0 192.168.200.3
> ppp0 131.236.2.209
>
> under routing
>
> default gateway 131.236.2.209
use isp gateway for default ie; 131.236.2.1 or 192.168.200.3 with
defaultroute added to /etc/ppp/options
> default device ppp0
>
> to set up IP masquerading, I typed
>
> /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p deny
> /sbin/ipfwadm -f -a m -S 192.168.200.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
>
> However, I cant seem to get it to work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Ian
Other than the changes I suggested and ip_forwarding
enabled(kernel 2.2) the only other thing left is the kernel. Verify you
made the proper changes when you recompiled the kernel. You made no
mention of what kernel you have. Your setup is correct for 2.0.xx The
new 2.2 kernels require ipchains instead of ipfwadm. I included some
scripts I use to start ip-masquerading for both 2.0 and 2.2 kernels. It
may not matter but your server should be the lower number also ie;
192.168.200.1 and the win client 192.168.200.2, etc.
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Ted Sikora
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#!/bin/sh
# rc.ipchains <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Uncomment to enable ip_forward. It is not enabled by default in 2.2 kernels.
#echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
# IP masquerading:
# This script allows Internet access to one or more clients on a
# local network from a single Linux connection (Lan or dial-up).
# This example is set for a single local client 192.168.0.2 with a
# netmask of 255.255.255.0
#
# To allow access to the entire network change 192.168.0.2/32 to
# 192.168.0.0/24 This script is called from /etc/rc.d/rc.local
# with the following:
# # Start IP Masquerading
# if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.ipchains ]; then
# echo -n "IP-Masquerading "
# . /etc/rc.d/rc.ipchains
# fi
#
# IP masquerading with ipchains and 2.2 kernels.
#/sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
#/sbin/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 0.0.0.0/0
#/sbin/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.0.3/32 -d 0.0.0.0/0
# IP masquerading with ipfwadm and 1.3 thru 2.0 kernels.
/sbin/ipfwadm -F -p deny
/sbin/ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.200.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
# IP masquerading modules are still needed with ipchains and kernel 2.2.
# The settings below start all available ip_masq modules for use with
# both ipfwadm and ipchains.
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_cuseeme
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_irc
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_quake
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_raudio
#/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_user # New to kernel 2.2
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_vdolive
#
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#!/bin/sh
#
# /etc/rc.d/rc.local: Local system initialization script.
#
# Put any local setup commands in here:
# Start IP Masquerading
if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.ipchains ]; then
echo -n "IP-Masquerading "
. /etc/rc.d/rc.ipchains
fi
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From: Ted Sikora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apache upgrade - quick question
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:38:16 GMT
Chris Pott wrote:
>
> Greetings.
>
> Running LinuxPPC Release 4 (after giving up, for now, on a successful
> R5 installation).
>
> Would like to upgrade Apache to 1.3.6. However, this is my scenario:
>
> [root@xxxxxx chris]# rpm -U apache-1.3.6-0.ppc.rpm
>
> failed dependencies:
> /usr/local/bin/perl5 is needed by apache-1.3.6-0
>
> Okay, so I did this:
>
> [root@one bin]# ln perl5.00502 /usr/local/bin/perl5
>
> And still get:
>
> [root@xxxxxx chris]# rpm -U apache-1.3.6-0.ppc.rpm
>
> failed dependencies:
> /usr/local/bin/perl5 is needed by apache-1.3.6-0
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> TIA.
>
Add the --nodeps flag to install as in:
# rpm -U --nodeps apache-1.3.6-0.ppc.rpm
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Ted Sikora
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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE/GNOME ICONS WON'T GO AWAY IN MANDRAKE
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:35:08 -0400
I'm trying to gid rid of the icons that are installed with KDE and
GNOME in Mandrake 6.0. Simply deleting the icons does little, as they
are recreated on startup of X. I have looked at startx, .xinitrc,
.Xclients, .Xclients-default, .Xdefaults, .kderc, .kde/, and .gnome/.
I can not find where Mandrake is generating these icons. They are the
same for KDE or for GNOME/Enlightenment window managers, so it should
have something to do with startx. I even tried a strace on startx to
see what files are called. This didn't help much.
Any help here is welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Ryan T. Rhea
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Need script to convert filenames from UPPER to lower
Date: 27 Jul 1999 23:47:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7nl2oe$e91$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kenny McCormack wrote:
[reordered for rhetorical purposes]
> Notice how much nicer [the following approach] is than all the ugly, complicated Perl
> solutions (which are really posted as advertisements for learning Perl,
> since a user really ought not run code downloaded from the net w/o
> understanding what it does (at at least some minimal level)). See, the
> real issue here is "How often do I have to do this? Is it a one-time
> deal [the most common instance]?" Most of the time, the user is looking for
> a one-shot solution (which the above is) and we write, debug, and post for
> them fully optimized, production level code.
As one of the offenders who posted a Perl example, I think
that Cameron Spitzer's sh script in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was the best fit to
the original problem, although the approach given here has
certain virtues (see below).
However, surely at some time you must have had the feeling that
you would be using your one-shot programs again _if only because
you saved them in files_.
Also, I wonder how many among us understands what the code does
(even minimally) for
the Linux kernel
the C library
your favorite newsreader
your favorite editor
your favorite shell
your favorite awk implementation
[well, you get the idea]
> gawk '{print "mv -i",$0,tolower($0)}' lowerlist.txt > upperlist.txt
> source upperlist.txt
I do like the idea here of using a program to write a script.
Visually checking that script for problems is probably more
efficient (for a one-shot solution) than trying to anticipate
all possible problems when writing a program to perform the
renaming operations.
> Note how nicely the -i option to mv takes care of the "file already exists"
> case.
(Except when the destination name turns out to be a directory
already ...)
> Note also that if you are using a sh-ish shell as your login shell,
> you would replace the line:
> source upperlist.txt
> with:
> . ./upperlist.txt
N.B. With bash (the Linux standard) "source filename" works too.
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From: Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:16:55 -0400
stop embarrassing yourselves. this is a linux Newsgroup.
Frank Hart wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:36:06 +0600, Paymaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Wrong, wrong, wrong. This is entertaining, and please don't shut anyone
> >up. What you could do, is to contribute to the thread in a way that
> >would switch the topic slightly--which would result in more
> >participation and reinvigorated flaming and thus increase the enjoyment
> >of the onlooker.
>
> Sorry, my temper got away with me. Buit I just can't stand it if
> someone is flaming others all the time. And off topic flaming too. But
> this thread still doesn't belong in comp.os.linux*.
>
> Frank hart
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