Linux-Misc Digest #191, Volume #25 Thu, 20 Jul 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
LILO with LIL- problem (Andreas Fuchs)
Re: Voice Recording (James Franklin)
Re: minicom (William Shotts)
Re: /usr/lib/libpci.a library sources? (A Guy Called Tyketto)
Re: xfs fails during start up ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
getting to my gui (Azsandorl)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: getting to my gui (Dances With Crows)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Richard Watson)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (brian moore)
Re: audio on cdrom? (Mary P)
Re: audio on cdrom? (Bob van der Poel)
Problems compiling kernel with pgcc 2.95.2 (Brian Foddy)
how to add gatway to my linux box? (the turtle)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Uncle Fester)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Uncle Fester)
Re: How to resize Linux Screen? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Richard Watson)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Jim Townsend)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (John Hasler)
Re: capture screen output during booting (Craig A Lebowitz)
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From: Andreas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: LILO with LIL- problem
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:13:35 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am hoping that someone can help me with a problem I am
having with LILO. The particular situation I have is a lab
of identical computers that will have the capability to
dual boot Windows 2000 or Linux. Windows 2000 was installed
followed by Linux (Red Hat 6.2 using a kick start file).
After updating the kernel from 2.2.14-5.0 as found on the CD
to 2.2.16-3, identical /etc/lilo.conf files were copied to
each computer and /sbin/lilo was run. As described in the
NT OS Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO, the Linux boot sector from
one computer was copied to a floppy. This file was then
copied to all the computers and the Windows 2000 boot.ini
file was modified so that it would allow one to choose Linux.
This works fine on all but 2 of the 30 computers. The two
that don't work hang with a LIL- error after choosing Linux
from the Windows 2000 loader. (These systems, however, boot
fine with a rescue disk.)
I have looked at the LILO documentation. The LILO User Guide
indicates this implies that the descriptor table is corrupt.
The LILO Technical Guide is a bit more detailed in saying that
the - indicates an incorrect checksum for the descriptor table.
Can someone tell me what needs to be done to avoid the LIL-
error? (I have already tried reinstalling Linux and the boot
sector and the problem persists.) Also, am I `asking for
trouble' by using a boot sector from one computer on a large
number of other identical computers (i.e., am I lucky that 28
of 30 computers boot properly?)? Any help/ideas are greatly
appreciated!
andreas
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SEET, Prischak Bldg.
Station Road
Erie, PA 16563-1701
+1 814 898 6472 (voice)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Franklin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Voice Recording
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Jul 2000 18:37:57 -0600
I use SoundStudio that came with my Mandrake 7.0. It is easy to use and
supports multiple file formats when saving.
On 18 Jul 2000 17:36:38 GMT, Dances With Crows wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:08:10 GMT, Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>> How do I record my voice (from the microphone) to wav or, better yet,
>>> mp3? (My system is RH6.2)
>>Just do a
>>cat /dev/audio > soundfile
>>and then you can convert your soundfile to anything you want.
>
>Um. This doesn't work on all soundcards (most, though) and the audio
>quality is not very good. A program like wavrec would provide a
>better bare-bones command-line solution, while you can go to
>http://freshmeat.net and search for "ecasound" if you need more power
>and flexibility. /dev/audio samples at 8KHz, which is OK for voice, but
>horrible for anything musical....
>
>--
>Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>"We should have a policy against using personal resources for company
>business." "The Company didn't pay for these pants, so I'm taking them
>off at the door!" --J. Moore and A. DeBoer, the Monastery
>
>
--
James
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From: William Shotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: minicom
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:36:15 GMT
Trevor Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi:
: I've run minicom a couple of times, and I'm having trouble configuring it
: properly. At first, it told me that the administrator had to run minicom
: -s, and so I did this. I also have no problem running minicom as root.
: But when I try to run it as a normal user, it says "/dev/modem permission
: denied" or some other such error.
: How can I set this up to run when I'm logged in as a normal user?
: Trevor
The problem is that the /dev/modem file (or actually the actual file the
symbolic link /dev/modem points to) has permissions that do not allow
users other than root to open it. The crude and probably insecure
way to fix it is to set the file permissions to 666.
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From: A Guy Called Tyketto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr/lib/libpci.a library sources?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:36:57 GMT
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David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alexander Rezinsky wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Where can I find sources of the /usr/lib/libpci.a library?
>> AFAIK it isn't part of glibc.
>>
>> Thanks,
> It is included the "pci-utils-devel" package.
If you're not using a Redhat-like distribution, you should find
it in pciutils-2.1.8, in the hardware/ directory of your closest
MetaLab/SunSITE mirror. Not everyone uses a dist of linux that uses
BL.
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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
Subject: Re: xfs fails during start up
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:47:58 -0400
Look in /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs to see how it is activated.
Robert Sparr wrote:
>
> I have made some progress on the X Windows problem I posted earlier.
> I've found that xfs is failing to start.
>
> From /var/log/messages:
> Jul 20 06:11:41 lab_1_linux xfs: xfs startup succeeded
> Jul 20 06:11:41 lab_1_linux xfs: Fatal font server error:
> Jul 20 06:11:41 lab_1_linux xfs: Cannot establish any listening sockets
>
> I have found through experiment that trying to run:
> xfs -droppriv -daemon -port -1
> from the prompt it will fail in the same way.
>
> But, if I run xfs -daemon from the prompt, it works, with the following
> from /var/log/messages:
> Jul 20 06:18:43 lab_1_linux xfs: Warning: The directory
> "/usr/share/fonts/default/TrueType" does not exist.
> Jul 20 06:18:43 lab_1_linux xfs: Entry deleted from font path.
>
> Once I've done this, I can killall xfs and then I can run:
> xfs -droppriv -daemon -port -1
> at the prompt and it runs fine, and then I can run
> /usr/bin/gdm -nodaemon from the prompt and go into X Windows.
>
> So has anybody else seen and dealt with this behavior before? What is
> trying to launch xfs during the start-up process? Is this a script
> somewhere I can look at?
>
> Thanks,
> R
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Robert H. Sparr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SkyPilot Network, L.L.C. <URL goes here>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Rinaldi]$
Lingerie-maker Frederick's of Hollywood filed for Chapter 11
bankruptcy protection in Los Angeles. Analysts revealed that market
is a bust after the bottom fell out....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Azsandorl)
Subject: getting to my gui
Date: 20 Jul 2000 23:54:44 GMT
I recently purchased Linux-Mandrake 7.1. The first time I started it up, I got
into the gui (kde?), but from then on I have only been able to load to the
console. I want to do three things. Load to the GUI, get to the GUI from the
console. and have windows set in LILO as the one to start automatically instead
of linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:01:58 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc 01111000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Ashley McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Bruce,
>>
>> > I would watch yourself, they are very devoted...some of them are nuts!
>>
>> Nahhh. Compared to M$ users, we're the sane ones...
>>
> im thinking of setting up a 12 step program to help ween win users into
> linux... sound like an idea? :)
I think you'd need a kidnap and deprogramming regime to defeat the kult of
Bill...
:)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: getting to my gui
Date: 21 Jul 2000 00:07:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Jul 2000 23:54:44 GMT, Azsandorl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently purchased Linux-Mandrake 7.1. The first time I started it
>up, I got into the gui (kde?), but from then on I have only been able
>to load to the console. I want to do three things. Load to the GUI,
>get to the GUI from the console. and have windows set in LILO as the
>one to start automatically instead of linux.
To make booting into X the default, edit /etc/inittab and look for the
following line:
id:3:initdefault:
Change it to:
id:5:initdefault:
To start X (specifically, KDE) from the console, enter
startkde
at the command prompt.
Read the LILO documentation or the LILO HOWTO for the last one. Check
/usr/doc/packages/lilo/README and http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ for more
than you ever wanted to know.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Flash is not and never will be substance, and limits can enhance
creativity; think of what Konami did with 128K and a 1MHz 6502 in the
NES "Contra", then think of Daikatana running on a P3 750/256M....
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From: Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: 21 Jul 2000 02:18:40 +0100
Jim Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My PC is 100% Windowless.. up 9 days, 4hrs 35 mins (at time of posting)
> I run it as a straight workstation and I do everything on it that I did
> in Windows. To me, it is perfectly acceptable.
OK, well if we're showing off:
reed: 02:15am up 36 days, 15:36, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01
marineband: 02:14am up 75 days, 8:24, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00
marineband is cheating slightly because it's only a firewall/gateway,
but reed is a workstation.
--
Richard Watson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentagon Web Design Ltd Fax: +44(0)870 706 5282
Reading UK Reg. Linux User 183315
ICQ: 65274884
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: 21 Jul 2000 01:31:15 GMT
On 21 Jul 2000 02:18:40 +0100,
Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > My PC is 100% Windowless.. up 9 days, 4hrs 35 mins (at time of posting)
> > I run it as a straight workstation and I do everything on it that I did
> > in Windows. To me, it is perfectly acceptable.
>
> OK, well if we're showing off:
>
> reed: 02:15am up 36 days, 15:36, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01
> marineband: 02:14am up 75 days, 8:24, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00
>
> marineband is cheating slightly because it's only a firewall/gateway,
> but reed is a workstation.
Yawn.
6:27pm up 445 day(s), 18:47, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.20, 0.18
(That system will probably be moving in the next few months... but I've
planned ahead and it will move with the UPS it's plugged into, so it can
get another birthday present: a 36" penguin to go along with the 18"
penguin he got for his first birthday.)
I've got a machine that's better (it hasn't been rebooted since Feb '98)
but it's just a firewall and doesn't even have telnet or ssh running on
it so I can't get to it from here. :)
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary P)
Subject: Re: audio on cdrom?
Date: 19 Jul 2000 03:23:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 02:55:00 GMT, Potter Wickware
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>OK, so I've got Redhat 6 installed & running. Now how do I make the CD
>player play music? I've used the mount -a command and the CDROM makes
>the expected mechanical noises, and the CD player utility registers
>tracks & play time, etc., but no music comes out. Sound card works fine
>when the machine is booted on the win OS.
since nobody else has offered any suggestions, have you checked all the
volume settings? There are 2 places in RH 5.2: xMixer and xPlayCD. Both
have volume slide bars, and though I don't know why, I had
to tweak them in both places.
Hope this helps,
MP
--
"If there are any gods whose chief concern is man, they cannot be very
important gods."
--Arthur C. Clarke
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From: Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: audio on cdrom?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:27:18 -0700
Mary P wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 02:55:00 GMT, Potter Wickware
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >OK, so I've got Redhat 6 installed & running. Now how do I make the CD
> >player play music? I've used the mount -a command and the CDROM makes
> >the expected mechanical noises, and the CD player utility registers
> >tracks & play time, etc., but no music comes out. Sound card works fine
> >when the machine is booted on the win OS.
>
> since nobody else has offered any suggestions, have you checked all the
> volume settings? There are 2 places in RH 5.2: xMixer and xPlayCD. Both
> have volume slide bars, and though I don't know why, I had
> to tweak them in both places.
1. Make sure the audio cable from the CD drive is connected to the
soundcard. It's a little 4 wire plug. If it worked before under windows
then this is ok and you don't have to check.
2. You don't mount a music cd. You need to use a special program to play
it. Just a few off the top of my head are xmcd, workman and in gnome
there's a player in the multimedia menu.
Again, don't mount!
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From: Brian Foddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Problems compiling kernel with pgcc 2.95.2
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 02:25:48 GMT
For days now I have been having problems compiling the linux 2.2.16
(Mandrake 7.1) kernel with Pentium optimization on pgcc 2.95.2. Serious
problems as I will describe below. I've done quite a bit of
experimentation and internet browsing trying to find similar reports
and I haven't been able to. To be honest, I find my own results
difficult to believe myself (that if they are true that nobody else
has reported this). BTW, I'm a long-time linux user and have
successfully
built many kernels. Also, I understand there is no promise pgcc will
work for a kernel compile, but I think you will find my results
interesting
anyway. So bare with me...
At a high level, I have Mandrake 7.1 running on a PII-450 (dual)
with pgcc 2.95.2 loaded. I am trying to build a kernel on this machine
for a Pentium 100 (no MMX) running Mandrake 6.1. The result of every
normal compile is a kernel that will not boot. I see the loading
message after lilo with most of the dots, then the machine reboots.
I never see the uncompressing message or any other
part of a normal linux boot. I posted an early version of
this report on comp.os.linux.misc and received some suggested
make options, but they didn't change the result. BTW, I'm being careful
when I transfer the kernel between machines to use either binary ftp or
nfs, and I rerun lilo each time after installing the kernel. I have
not loaded the new compiler on the Pentium or vice versa to see if that
has any effect.
I am using the following special compile options:
-O3, -march=pentium, -mcpu=pentium, -mpentium.
The full compile line from one example module is :
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/include
-Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O3 -march=pentium -mcpu=pentium -ffast-math
-funroll-loops
-fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-mem -fforce-addr -malign-double
-fno-exceptions
-fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-exceptions
-fno-rtti
-pipe -s -mpentium -mcpu=pentium -march=pentium -ffast-math
-fexpensive-optimizations
-mpentium -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586
-c
-o init/main.o init/main.c
I've also tried -O6 and -O2 with the same results. If I use the
standard gcc compiler
(2.95.3) the kernel build works. If I use pgcc 2.91.66 which is running
on the
Pentium, it works also. In both cases the exact same .config and make
files.
Also, if I build a PentiumPro kernel for the P2, it seems to work fine
also.
OK, now here's the detailed part. Because the kernel never even gets
loaded properly
I took an educated guess that there might be a problem with the last few
steps of
the build process. So I focused on those steps. I performed a normal
build
with pgcc and stripped off the last page of the make file output. After
a few
minor modifications to the output I obtained a simple shell script that
performs
the same last steps so I could experiment in more detail. My result is
the
following shell script which I run from arch/i386/boot of the build
tree:
#!/bin/bash
GCC_NEW=/usr/local/pgcc/bin/gcc.color
GCC_OLD=/usr/bin/gcc.colorgcc
$GCC_NEW -D__KERNEL__
-I/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/include -E -D__BIG_KERNEL__
-traditional -DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA bootsect.S -o bbootsect.s
as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
ld86 -0 -s -o bbootsect bbootsect.o
$GCC_NEW -D__KERNEL__
-I/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/include -E -D__BIG_KERNEL__
-traditional -DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA setup.S -o bsetup.s
as86 -0 -a -o bsetup.o bsetup.s
ld86 -0 -s -o bsetup bsetup.o
cd /usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/boot/compressed
tmppiggy=_tmp_$$piggy; \
rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk; \
objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S
/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/vmlinux $tmppiggy; \
gzip -f -9 < $tmppiggy > $tmppiggy.gz; \
echo "SECTIONS { .data : { input_len = .; LONG(input_data_end -
input_data) input_data = .; *(.data) input_data_end = .; }}" >
$tmppiggy.lnk; \
ld -m elf_i386 -m elf_i386 -r -o piggy.o -b binary $tmppiggy.gz -b
elf32-i386 -T $tmppiggy.lnk; \
rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk
#$GCC_NEW -D__KERNEL__
-I/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/include -traditional -c
head.S
$GCC_OLD -D__KERNEL__
-I/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/include -O2
-DSTDC_HEADERS -c -o misc.o misc.c
$GCC_NEW -D__KERNEL__
-I/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/include -O2
-DSTDC_HEADERS -c -o misc.o misc.c
ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000 -e startup_32 -o bvmlinux head.o misc.o
piggy.o
cd ..
$GCC_NEW -o tools/build tools/build.c
-I/usr/src/linux-2.2.16.murdock/linux-2.2.16/include
objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S compressed/bvmlinux
compressed/bvmlinux.out
tools/build -b bbootsect bsetup compressed/bvmlinux.out CURRENT >
bzImage
You will recognize this as the final steps of the build bzImage output,
with the
small addition that I can switch which compiler is used at each gcc
step, either
GCC_NEW = the pgcc compiler or GCC_OLD = standard gcc; I use colorgcc
as a wrapper
to both hence the funny names.
What I found was that I can compile all modules with the pgcc compiler
except the
misc.c and have a working kernel. For misc.c I have to switch to the
standard
gcc compiler (GCC_OLD). Misc.c is a relatively small 358 line module
that is
part of the kernel wrapper executed right after the lilo selection and
attempts to
uncompress the kernel (at least I've gathered from the source). The
shell
script above will produce a working kernel, but if I use GCC_NEW at the
misc.c line
it won't work.
So, go figure. Has anyone else seen this? I have noticed Mandrake 7.1
didn't include pgcc, anything to that? Is there a bug in the compiler?
As you can see, I've spent a lot of time working on this and I'd really
like
to put it to bed one way or the other. Its definitely repeatable. I've
tried the binary download and building from source pgcc, both the same
results.
I see no evidence either machine is having any other serious hardware or
software problems. This problem if it turns out to be a possible
compiler bug
kinda shakes my confidence in the rest of the kernel code it has
compiled. And
frankly, there are still some unanswered questions like
1. Why does it work building for the P2 machine, when this module is
not
being optimized for either?
Open to all suggestions...
Brian
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From: the turtle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to add gatway to my linux box?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:30:14 +1000
I am using Redhad 6.2.
I found that very confuse about adding a gateway to my linux box.
I have my nameserver located in another machine called
fastline.bidbid.com with IP addr 192.168.1.2
the Redhad machine has the ip addr as 192.168.1.1
I have the /etc/resolv.conf written as: nameserver 192.168.1.2
Thanks
Sam.
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From: Uncle Fester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 02:27:10 GMT
Ashley McConnell wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> I would watch yourself, they are very devoted...some of them are nuts! One
> wrong word about that 'L' OS and they could arrive at your door with big
> sticks :)
>
> Tread Carefully......I am scared even typing this ;)
>
> Ash
Be afraid. Be Very Afraid. Did you even realize this is cross-posted
to 2 Linux newsgroups? ;-)
--
Chuck Kandler
A man is no less a Slave just because he is
allowed to choose a new Master every four years.
Registered Linux User #180746
http://counter.li.org
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From: Uncle Fester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 02:33:05 GMT
S�bastien Tixier wrote:
>
> Well, i see great future on a server-only linux GPL version, but as long
> as there will not Force Feedback under Linux i'll never play a
> linux-GPL.
Logitech has already released Linux drivers for it's LWFF wheel. And
the 2.4 kernel will have USB support, so I hear. Now we just need a
port of GPL. Life is *good*...
--
Chuck Kandler
A man is no less a Slave just because he is
allowed to choose a new Master every four years.
Registered Linux User #180746
http://counter.li.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: How to resize Linux Screen?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 02:40:51 GMT
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:39:58 -0400, Neal Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, I was aware of that mechanism, but it's not happening when using
>either SCOTERM or a win95 pc using qvtnet. If I'm careful and make
>sure I do the eval `resize` and resize in SCO, then do a telnet, it
>works ok. If I attempt to resize while in linux, nope, it does not.
>At least not for vi and linuxconf.
Oh. I'm not sure how you manually make the Linux end aware of a
window size change. I've tried several different telnets for
Win32, and haven't found one that I consider usable (most are
better than the one from MS, which borders on utterly useless).
The one that is still on the untried list is putty(?). One of
these days I'll have to find a copy...
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm ANN LANDERS!! I
at can SHOPLIFT!!
visi.com
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From: Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: 21 Jul 2000 03:29:00 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
> Yawn.
>
> 6:27pm up 445 day(s), 18:47, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.20, 0.18
Well that's just posing ;-)
Just give me another year and I'll be there....
--
Richard Watson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentagon Web Design Ltd Fax: +44(0)870 706 5282
Reading UK Reg. Linux User 183315
ICQ: 65274884
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From: Jim Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:49:50 -0500
Richard Watson wrote:
>
> Jim Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > My PC is 100% Windowless.. up 9 days, 4hrs 35 mins (at time of posting)
> OK, well if we're showing off:
>
> reed: 02:15am up 36 days, 15:36, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01
> marineband: 02:14am up 75 days, 8:24, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00
I am humbled... But give me a couple of months ;-)
Jim.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:56:13 GMT
Andrew Halliwell writes:
> I think you'd need a kidnap and deprogramming regime to defeat the kult
> of Bill...
No. Just keep on keeping on. In a few years most of these "Linux will
never be any good for X" types will be telling anyone who will stand still
all about how they knew Linux would "win" all along.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Craig A Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: capture screen output during booting
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat
Date: 21 Jul 2000 03:03:43 GMT
FYI -
On my Redhat 6.2 system there's a file, /var/log/dmesg that has the text that
/bin/dmesg displays.
craig
In comp.os.linux.setup Perry Pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just type 'dmesg' after you have booted and logged in.
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