Linux-Misc Digest #201, Volume #21               Wed, 28 Jul 99 23:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Hey  has the matrox g400 out yet??? ("Craig Miller")
  Re: Hey  has the matrox g400 out yet??? (brian moore)
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: Unresolved symbols in module... (Rado Faletic)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Stefaan A Eeckels)
  Re: GNOME & E (Cameron McElhinny)
  Re: Need suggestions for tape backup device (Ian Briggs)
  Soln: Re: "unresolved" syms, modules - SMP? (Eric Welton)
  Re: able to play sound files as root only. (redhat 6.0) (in) (Ken Corbin)
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Holger Kruse)
  Need help on modem ("Chris B.")
  Re: CIA assassinations (Randall Parker)
  Re: Disk mirroring with PowerQuest Drive Image Pro (Ron Gibson)

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From: "Craig Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Hey  has the matrox g400 out yet???
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:18:38 -0500


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:yrWxrCGQwnIq-pn2-xbEVK8ie9FvX@localhost...
> hi there
>
> i want to upgrade my video card, and i think the g400 would be nice,
> there is a bunch of info on it but i cant find one anywhere.
>
> whats the scoop??

Not yet...I can't wait either...remember to get the G400 Max...it's
faster...lots faster!

Craig Miller
Oz Online



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Hey  has the matrox g400 out yet???
Date: 29 Jul 1999 02:21:36 GMT

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:17:18 +0000, 
 C. Grote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> As to the TNT2/Voodoo3/G400 shoot-out, one thing is for sure: the 3
> cards are quite close in their 3D performance (let's face it, the
> Voodoo3 and TNT2 do typically get higher frame-rates (albeit only in the
> low resolutions - in high resolutions the G400 wins hands down =P ...
> anyway, face the fact that the human retina/brain canNOT process more
> than 30 frames per second anyway, so who really cares about a card that
> does 60 while the next card does 50 and has support for AGP4X, twice the
> onboard RAM, AGP texturing support, environmental bump mapping, the best
> damn 2D (best-looking and fastest) the world has ever seen, support for
> textures up to nearly 10 times the size, a development team who works
> closely with Linux developers to work out drivers (although they don't
> "officially" support Linux yet) and 2 video outputs with full support
> for digital flat screens for the same price as the afore-mentioned
> card?  I think you can guess which one I'd rather have =)

My only complaint with Matrox is that they don't have "This is the best
supported card under Linux" stamped on their G200 web page.

[And, yeah, I did mail them a suggestion that they update their webpage
to that affect.  My suggested wording was "this card screams like a
banshee on Linux" but did admit their lawyers may have a cow about that
wording.  I got a nice letter back even. :)]

The G400 is a kick-ass board.  It just started shipping a week or so
ago, though, so it's a bit early for me to buy it, but it will certainly
be what I spec on the next system I buy.

Too bad other hardware makers don't show the Clue that Matrox has in
releasing specs and encouraging developers.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 00:13:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Christian Brandt  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chris Lee wrote:
>
>> >If you don't care then why are you trolling here?!?!?!
>> >If you don't care then why are you responding to him?!?!???
>> >If you don't care why even have a computer?!!?!?
>> >
>> >> Just like you it doesn't mean he knows a damn thing about what
>> >> the people who don't use the Amiga use to connect to the internet.
>> >
>> >So someone who shipped one of the best TCP/IP stacks on any platforms
>> >doesn't know, and a jackass like you who claims real world experience
>> >with no clue knows??!?!?!?
>> 
>> Who says it's the best? Amiga users? Give me a break....
>
> I once used an Amiga (still have it around as a doorstopper :-) and
>tried Miami.
>
> It is really impressive and one of the best stacks around period
> (or at least the gui was very impressive even comparared with KDE,
>Win95 and so on)
> and its even more impressive that this stack was mainly done by one or
>two guys - not by thousands of voluntary internet-nerds ;-)
>
> I never used it again, coz 90% of its functionality only applies in
>dial-up-systems and my amiga is connected by ethernet (or at least it
>was a year ago) and nothing tops AmiTCP and a quick and short

The this "impressive" program has a great gui and is worthless.  I
*am* impressed!

> ifconfig ariadne 212.14.67.20 netmask 255.255.255.248 broadcast 212.14.67.23
> route add default gw 212.14.67.17
>
> Even Miami can`t be set up faster :-)

Linux can beat that, because no route command is needed.

However, that is perhaps the most absurd definition of what
makes for an impressive implementation!  That is even worse than
saying miami is great because of its extremely ill thought out
overall design which includes a mix of functionality which should
never be combined.  As in "MiamiDx is TCP/IP, Firewall, IP-NAT,
inetd, several built-in services, all TCP/IP configs, AND PPPD,
SLIP, CSLIP, ARP, RARP, DHCP, etc.", which you claim is "one of
the best stacks" because it has what you believe to be a great
gui.  Setup and configuration are important, but how well it
*works* is what counts!  Can you set IP options, such as Loose
Source and Record Routing or Strick Source and Record Routing?
(Can you turn them off, for example.)  How about Router Alert as
described in RFC 2113?  How about Record Route and Timestamp
(Sections 7.3 and 7.4 of TCPv1)?  Can another program use raw
sockets?  How about IPv6?

Don't tell me an implementation of networking software is great
because you like the colors and layout of the configuration
screen.  Tell me how it *works* compared to other implementions.

I'm not familiar with the OS used on an Amiga.  Are these
programs written this way because of limited OS functionality
(e.g., a single user OS) or what?

  Floyd

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)


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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:25:08 +1000
From: Rado Faletic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Unresolved symbols in module...


> make mrproper ; make menuconfig ; make dep ; make clean ; make boot ; make
> modules ; make modules_install

did you rerun lilo after the build, but before the reboot? You will need
to modify /etc/lilo.conf, if you haven't already done so, to point to
the new kernel, and then type `lilo' at the prompt.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 23 Jul 1999 08:11:39 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> It was the 21 Jul 1999 22:05:47 GMT...
> ..and Stefaan A Eeckels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Couch potatoes apart, we're not plants. But we are, no matter
>> how much you might dislike it, animals.
> 
> Biologically.
I'm glad to see that you've stop claiming that we're not
animals. 

 
>> We're not so very special.
> 
> Yes we are. I have already named four criteria of which only man
> possesses all:
> 1) intelligence
> 2) creativity
> 3) abstract thought
> 4) literacy.
> 
> Especially criterion 4 makes us so very special. IMHO.
But you know, some other animals have some very extraordinary
capabilities. Take bats, with their marvellous sonar systems.
Take migrating birds, who can sense the earth's magnetic field.
Or elephants, who're more intelligent than some humans I know.

What I'm trying to tell you is that considering one's species
as somehow above all the others is not the right attitude to
the world we live in. Of course, we do some remarkable things,
but that doesn't give us any special privileges.

 

> I don't know why you insist on referring to religion all the time.
> Have you got some problem with religion or why do you keep on bringing
> it up?
Because IMHO, considering humankind as an species outside
nature ("we're not animals", "knowledge ...artificially acquired"),
or inherently superior to the rest of the world is an artifact
of judeo-christianism. Even those who claim to be agnostic are
impregnated with judeo-christian concepts.
The most dangerous, and prevalent, concept is that we are not
"natural", not part of the world around us. The sooner we get
rid of that fallacy, the better.

 
>> Brains got more complex, and hey presto, we became what we 
>> are. 100% natural.
> 
> Of course we are a product of evolution. But mentioning that is
> pointless since I don't argue that we are biologically not animals.
> Actually, you could even make a point that we are really not even
> animals regarding behaviour biology since we miss most of their
> instincts, but since I'm not a behaviour biologist, I won't try to
> make it and accept that man is biologically an animal.
> 
> Nevertheless, evolution has pushed us across the border to criteria 1
> through 4 while it hasn't done the same with others.
Says who? How do you *know*? and why are four criteria chosen
by a human a valid way to determine that humans are special?

 
>> Because your idea that we're not animals stems directly from
>> your judeo-christian background, which is exactly my argument.
>> It's the subliminal remainder of the belief ...
> 
> Keep on trying to brand me as religious, and you will join people who
> brand me as a `typical Linux zealot' in my score file. This is the
> same kind of slander.
I'm not saying you're religious (and why you'd consider that "slander"
escapes me). I'm saying that your idea that we're not animals, or
so totally different (read "superior") from the rest of the world,
is a typically judeo-christian concept, and that, as a European,
you're impregnated with judeo-christian ideas, even though you don't
acknowledge allegiance to an organised religion. If you're not
prepared to consider this, then you're blinkered beyond belief.

 

> Yet there are far more differences between us and all animals than
> between any other species and other animals. Of course I am not
> talking about anatomy. Consider instincts, intelligence, literacy,
> etc.
That remains a matter of opinion. It could be, but it's by no means
a certainty. Chimps are quite capable of abstract thought, make tools,
communicate extensively, and can learn to talk to humans using 
either sign language, or symbol cards. There's no such thing
as a "stupid animal", IMHO.

 
>> > No. You misparsed me. BTW, our species not having a lot of instincts
>> > and collective knowledge (f.ex. all our means of higher communication
>> > are artificially acquired) is another indicator that we are not
>> > animals.
>> Arbitrary. Again, the use of "artificial" as if using our brains
>> is somehow unnatural (or super-natural, or "outside nature"). 
>> We're as much part of nature as anything else living on this
>> planet.
> 
> Hm. We haven't got many instincts. Most of our knowledge is acquired.
> Natural selection hasn't got much effect on us. We're literate. We
> form states of conscious individuals (don't try to tell me that an ant
> or a bee is conscious in the same way as a man). We've developed
> ideals, among which is the ideal that annihilation of the weak by the
> strong is wrong.

> Of course you could keep on playing little games, but the fact remains
> that we are very different of the rest of nature. We are still
> biologically an animal, and we are still part of the food chain and
> such. But this is not the point.

We don't know if natural selection has no effect on not-so-sapiens
(it most definitely had on erectus or habilis). It surely had
even less influence on crocodiles; not-so-sapiens hasn't existed
for very long.
Literacy is the only thing you mention that AFAIK is not present
in other animals. Look, there's no doubt that our brain is one
of the more complex ones in the animal kingdom, but your idea 
that humankind is fundamentally different from (superior to) 
everything else is just plain wrong.


-- 
Stefaan
-- 

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___________________________________________________________________
Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add,
but when there is no longer anything to take away. -- Saint-Exup�ry


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From: Cameron McElhinny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNOME & E
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:10:47 GMT

Are you using Enlightenment?  If so, try looking in the Enlightenment
Configuration manager, e-conf.  In the Behaviour section, you can set
how you want focus to work.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Ok, I think I figured it out. Tell me if this works for you.
> >
> > Right click on a minimized window and choose show/hide. Then click on
> > the minimized icon. Now you can minimize it and bring it up with one
> > click.
> >
> 
> Ummmm, yes, that works, but do I really have to use 3 mouse clicks to do
> it?  In Windows (sorry if you hate it) one click on the task bar will
> raise a window to the front.  It seems like such a simple thing.
> Clicking on something in the GNOME task list gives it keyboard focus (I
> can tell by the way the window changes color) but it doesn't raise it.
> Isn't there an easy way?
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for tape backup device
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:17:43 GMT

Warren Bell wrote:
:I'm thinking about getting a tape backup for my machine running RH 5.2. 

I've just put an HP Colorado 8GB IDE in for basic backups.  It seems to
work fine straight away, using /dev/ht0 (but /dev/nht0 also gets a
response).  taper looks a good backup utility, both for attended and
cron backups -- but I haven't actually got as far as doing a successful
backup/restore yet!

Ian

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From: Eric Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Soln: Re: "unresolved" syms, modules - SMP?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:46:44 GMT

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Corbin)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: able to play sound files as root only. (redhat 6.0) (in)
Date: 25 Jul 1999 15:48:21 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,       Rajeev 
Ramamurthy writes:
> sndconfig worked fine. my bound blaster 128 card was installed. however i
> am able to play sound files only as root. any help/suggestions will be
> appreciated.
> thanks

You have to change the security on all of the sound device files to allow
normal users  read/write access.  /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/midi* and maybe
some others. 

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From: Holger Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 02:43:11 GMT

In comp.sys.amiga.misc Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> I'm not familiar with the OS used on an Amiga.  Are these
> programs written this way because of limited OS functionality
> (e.g., a single user OS) or what?

I have tried to stay out of the "pppd vs. Miami" discussion so far,
because it really amounts to comparing apples and oranges. Anyway, I
feel that it might be appropriate to give those users who have not
seen Miami yet a little historical perspective and some facts, so
you can make up your own minds.

The first TCP/IP stacks for AmigaOS were AS-225 (later called
I-Net 225, based on 4.3BSD-Tahoe) and AmiTCP/IP (based on 4.3BSD-Reno).
Both included a SLIP driver, but no PPP driver. Both stacks are
very similar to Unix in use and configurations.

My first contribution to AmigaOS TCP/IP networking was a PPP driver
that works with both stacks ("ppp.device", intended for dial-up only
though, not for dial-in, i.e. incoming calls).

That worked fine for some users in the early days of the Internet,
but became a problem later, when the Internet went commercial,
because then a lot of Amiga users without background in Unix or
networking wanted an easy-to-use solution (like MacTCP/PPP or
Windows dial-up wizards) without manual configuration of text
files and dial scripts (that was before PAP/CHAP/MS-CHAP were
widely used). Keep in mind that a lot of Amiga users are rather
non-technical, e.g. video users who have Amigas only so they can
use it with the Toaster/Flyer video effect machine often don't even
know how to open a shell window or edit a text file. I got swamped
with help requests, often ten or more per day, by such users asking
me how to configure an Internet hookup.

Initial attempts to improve the "cooperation" between the stacks
and the driver by extending APIs and merging configuration went
nowhere, and I eventually decided, encouraged by many users, to
create a dial-up networking solution with the sole emphasis of ease
of use. The result was Miami: it consists of an integrated TCP/IP stack
(based on 4.4BSD), an interactive and script-driven dialer, SLIP
and PPP drivers, InetD, configuration module, configuration "wizard",
a configurable, transparent SOCKS wrapper, which automatically
"socksifies" all programs at runtime. The distribution comes with
a set of utilities (netstat etc.). Initially Miami was intended
for dial-up use only, but later versions also supported other types
of interfaces, e.g. Ethernet. Only one interface can be configured
though, i.e. Miami is strictly a single-homed host stack, not a
multi-homed router stack.

Miami Deluxe is the logical extension of Miami to a router stack.
It supports an arbitrary number of interfaces, routing, IP-NAT,
firewall functions, has a built-in SOCKS daemon and comes with a
wider range of utilities.

Both Miami and Miami Deluxe are full-fledged TCP/IP implementations,
based on FreeBSD 2.x in their latest versions. This means they
support IP, TCP, UDP, IGMP, raw IP, route cloning, T/TCP (optional),
Path MTU Discovery, SACK/TSACK and many other features. IPv6
is not supported yet, but planned. The "Advanced Socket API" is
fully supported, so programmers can already write software that
in the future will be able to make use of IPv6, once it is implemented.
Miami and Miami Deluxe support the full BSD socket API (standard
and advanced, including all of the usual ioctl() and
get/setsockopt() options), and the BSD sysctl API for configuration
settings. Default sysctl settings can be specified in the GUI.

As for a comparison with Linux/BSD and pppd: purists may not like
that Miami combines several modules in a single executable, and
Miami's ppp implementation has fewer features than a typical pppd.

However combining modules has a lot of practical advantages. For
instance Miami supports DNS server discovery through PPP/IPCP
and DHCP, and automatically updates the resolver config (which
on the Amiga is implemented in a shared library in the TCP/IP
stack, not linked to each client.) Even DNS settings for running
clients can be updated on the fly, automatically.

Another advantage is that the overall configuration, in particular
dynamic changes, are done much more easily, and never require a
reboot. Miami Deluxe cannot only add but also delete interfaces
on the fly, it can keep completely different network settings in
single settings files and switch between them at any time, it can
automatically update network settings (routes, DNS, gateways,
firewall config etc.) as interfaces go up or down etc., all
without writing any scripts. Plus Miami Deluxe has an optional
feature to automatically generate firewall and IP NAT filter
rules based on interface classifications and settings, which of
course are also updated automatically as interface states
change. Those rules provide the usual protection from IP address
spoofing, ICMP-broadcast DoS attacks, unwanted TCP/UDP accesses
etc., plus user-configurable additions.

It may be possible to do many of these things with Linux/BSD,
but writing the necessary scripts and combining them would
probably require more expertise than the typical user has, plus
an error somewhere might go unnoticed for a long time and might
compromise security.

I don't want to make any claims about one program being "better"
than another. That depends largely on the intended use.

All I can say is that Miami Deluxe is technically extremely advanced, 
one of the most advanced stacks I have seen (and I have seen quite
a few, having done Unix system administrations and development for
many years), plus it attempts to make the functionality available
in a way that is easy to use for users without a lot of background
in TCP/IP. This may not appeal much to Linux users, but Amiga
users seem to appreciate it a lot.

--
Holger Kruse   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
               http://www.nordicglobal.com


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From: "Chris B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need help on modem
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:30:39 -0700

I was wondering how do i setup an old internal 33.6 modem under linux red
hat 5.2. The modem isnt plug in play cause it has jumpers on it. I set the
junpers for com1 or 2 or something. I would like to use this modem so i can
connect to the internet. _thanks_chris



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randall Parker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:59:00 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
> And you evade the point.  I have no respect for bourgeois whining about
> their tax bills. 

The obvious reason is that you want the government collecting such a 
large amount of money from taxpayers.

> The only reason they do so is because they're too
> weak to live within their means -- then, when they overspend, they
> blame it on the gov't. 

I live within my means. I have no debts whatsoever. I do not borrow when 
I buy a car or any other item. Yet, I think the government is too big and 
doesn't deserve to take as much of my income as it does.

I don't blame the government for making me spend money. I make my own 
decisions on the money that they let me keep. I do blame the government 
for taking so much of what I and others make. I don't think it has the 
right to do so. But it has guns and federal agents and it is well 
organized and I can't stop it.

You are creating a false stereotype of those you disagree with so that 
you don't have to respect their opinions.

> The gov't then responds by increasing the tax
> burden on the lower classes, who don't vote and therefore pose little
> threat at the polls.

The government has substantially increased the burden on almost every 
class in society as compared to 70-80 years ago. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.os2.setup.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Disk mirroring with PowerQuest Drive Image Pro
Date: 29 Jul 1999 02:13:34 GMT

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:53:07, "John King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >Since primary partitions are assigned drive letters first and a primary
> >partition will be needed on the backup drive for c:\dos then that's
> >going to make OS/2 unbootable as it 's drive letter will change when the
> >second disk is online or does it?  I've used ext2 linux drivers under
> >OS/2 and you can control drive letter mapping that way but I want to be
> >sure.  And since I have several partitions if the first partition on the
> >second drive is logical then it's useless as a backup because I'd have
> >to delete all the higher partitions and make the first one a primary I
> >think.

> I am hazy on this so beware ....
> I have Drive Image (not pro), and have used it twice a long time ago.
> 
> With a PC it operates from DOS at a low level. From DOS there's no OS/2
> drive letter problems. The issues are if your removable drive is bigger
> (easier) than the working drive, and if it can read the stuff on the working
> drive. I don't know the particulars but if it can see and read it (dos
> drivers), it should be able to make an image.
> 
> Hope I didn't miss your question.
  
Actually everybody helped.  My thinking was on the wrong track.  I was
thinking well if the main drive breaks well just swap cables and set the
backup drive as the master and reboot.  I don't think that's going to
work.

However, the point I missed is that in my thought process is that if
the main drive breaks you need another drive anyway...after all the
back up drive is just that- a backup.  So another drive is purchased and
you basics are installed like OS/2 boot manager and dos.  From there
xcopy, OS/2 recovery disks and Linux rescue disks should be able to do
the rest. I always print out a copy of my partition tables to help me 
through such a disaster also.

So the software isn't really needed unless its any easier than that to
use.

                      email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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