Linux-Misc Digest #206, Volume #21               Thu, 29 Jul 99 09:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: What I think of linux. (DistressedCanadian)
  Re: drives mount in linux and dos-like OS's ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux Kernel Compilation for 386/486/Pentium? (Roman Fietze)
  Re: masquerading config on a linux client (Vidar Andresen)
  Re: RH6 timezone (kev)
  Sticky bit?? (Tobias Galitzien)
  Re: Assembler for linux on Intel platform. (Alan.J.Thackray)
  Re: Need script to convert filenames from UPPER to lower (Jon Skeet)
  Re: please, urgent, EXECV, how it's running ?!? (Jon Skeet)
  RedHat and Nowell Netware (Torben Hoffmann)
  Re: Unresolved symbols in module... (Allen Ashley)
  Re: Assembler for linux on Intel platform. (Jon Skeet)
  Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++??? (Michael Hasenstein)
  Re: How can I resize my Linux-partition? (Tom Fawcett)
  Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (Craig Graham)
  mounting VFAT floppy error ! Help !!! (Nguyen-Dai Quy)
  Un nouveau Club Linux en =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=F4tes?= d'Armor ( (Jean-Louis Botcazou)
  Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (Craig Graham)
  Encoding MPEG video and sound? (Fredrik Gl�ckner)
  Re: Unresolved symbols in module... ("Alex Abreu")
  Re: Linux has finally crashed (mlw)
  Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (Franck Guillaud)
  Re: XFS and True-Type fonts (Bob Tennent)
  Re: IBM Netfinity 5500 and Caldera 2.2 Problems (Antonino Iannella)
  How to avoid needing an fsck (was: Linux crashed) (David Mcilroy)

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From: DistressedCanadian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:30:51 -0800

I tend to agree with the original poster.  I am a computer
scientist that is relatively new to the Linux world.  I
encounter problems everyday.  Most involve things that
would be simple tasks in windows.

The fact that some things are made so easily in windows is
also one of it's weaknesses however.  I like Linux to use
for programming and as a web server...

But, for all of those people that think that Linux is the
next generation, you are sadly mistaken.  The majority of
computer users are barely able to use Windows, let alone
something as complex as Linux.

As the second poster said, Linux was made by geeks for
geeks, and unfortunately it will probably always remain
so.  I have to say that there is NO WAY Linux will ever
become mainstream... simply because of the lack of computer
savvy demonstrated by over 90% of PC users.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: drives mount in linux and dos-like OS's
Date: 29 Jul 1999 09:34:58 GMT

YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to ask about the difference in mount/umount the drivers in 
> linux 'is it necessary, if so why?' and the easy one in Dos-like 
> OS's 'e.g., Win95, Win98, ...'.
necessary? well, others posted about the automounter.

The IMHO most sensible way (=the Mac way) is not possible due to technical
limitations of PC-hardware. It does not generate an interrupt when a floppy
is inserted into the drive. The only way I could think of to work around
this is to poll the drive (=frequently query its state). But this would be
useless most of the time and create unnecessary load on the system which is
less tolerable on a multiuser system. (BTW: If a (DOS-) floppy is mounted
automatically, who will be its owner, i.e. which permission will be set? How
does the automounter handle this?)

The second limitation is: The floppy can be removed manually. To keep the
filesystem consistent, DOS (don't know about Windows 9x/NT) does not cache
writes. Linux and other unices do. Again, the Apple sollution (eject FDs
only through software) would be great: write caching could be enabled and
still the floppy could not be removed until all caches are flushed.

   Peter
-- 
   Peter Gritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   `... so I'd rather you didn't try any last-minute stuff.'
   I *AM* LAST-MINUTE STUFF, said Death, standing up.
                                [Terry Pratchett, Hogfather]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roman Fietze)
Crossposted-To: gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Linux Kernel Compilation for 386/486/Pentium?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 10:19:43 GMT

Hello,

When doing "time dd if=/dev/zero bs=100k count=10000 | dd
of=/dev/zero" on a IBM PC w/ Pentium 166MHz and Linux Kernel 2.2.10 I
get different execution times for different kernel CPU configurations.

If I configure the kernel for (approx./averaged values):

                real    user    sys
386             78      20      57
Pentium         99      25      70

I did this test just by accident, to show a Linux newcomer, that I
create an own kernel to improve performance and lower size. So much
about performance. How come? Other mini benches (e.g. writing a 100MB
file using dd) also showed minor advantages for the 386 compilation,
but these were much smaller in the other tests. The machine was
unloaded at the time of the tests. Every test was run three times,
deviation was small.

Any ideas? What do you use for compiling on a Pentium like that. How
about AMD's? How about P3?

Roman

-- 
Roman Fietze (Mail Code 5023)              Heidelberg Digital/Germany
                                                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vidar Andresen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: masquerading config on a linux client
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:38:45 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just recently configured IP masquerading to work on a RH6 machine, and
>everything seems to be working fine.  All of the satellite machines that
>are in windows (including my own) work great!
>
>However, when I reboot my computer into linux, I cannot seem to get my
>ethernet card/netcfg configured correctly.  On our LAN, every computer
>can ping everyone else...so my computer CAN see all of the other
>computers on the network.  However, whenever I try and activate eth0, I
>get an error message "CIOADDRST: network unreachable".

What nic? Driver? Output of ifconfig? "cold" reboot?

Could it be something like:

http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html

  Typical Problems

  [...]
  What if the card is detected with a ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff station address?

  Read the Help File [LINK] on this topic.

  Quick-fixups (but read the above section when you get a chance):

      Cold (unplug an ATX box!) boot, especially with 3c905B Cyclone.
      Disable the "PnP OS" setting in the BIOS setup.


Mvh Vidar Andresen


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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6 timezone
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:58:28 +0100

> > I don't know if it changed in version 6 but in 5.2 timeconfig does the trick
> > and doesn't require a reboot.
> There is a symbolic link
> /etc/localtime
> You have to look to see which file to link to, but it should be
> fairly clear with some searching.
> But it is probably better to use linuxconf.
>

linuxconf didn't work for me - no matter how many times I changed the timezone in
Linuxconf, my timezone never actually changed until I changed the /etc/localtime
symlink manually.

- Kev


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From: Tobias Galitzien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sticky bit??
Date: 29 Jul 1999 10:03:23 GMT

Hello!

Can someone give me an explanation about what the "sticky bit" is? What it
is good for and why would I use it for files/directories?

If I've got it right so far it is the "t" right to be set by chmod. Chmod's
documentation says briefly "save program text on swap device". Unfortunately
this is not enough for me to get the point.

Can someone please highlight my mind about this or point me to some further
documentation? The other access rights (rwx, suid, sgid etc.) are quite
clear to me and I'm working successfully with them, I nor lack comprehension
about UNIX's general concept of access rights.

-- 
Tobias Galitzien        mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Channel.One GmbH        http://www.channel-one.de

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan.J.Thackray)
Subject: Re: Assembler for linux on Intel platform.
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:16:44 GMT

The native assembler is called "as" and is used during the kernel
build procedure. It is a bit obscure IMO, and poorly documented.
You can also get "gas" and other free assemblers.

Remember Linux assembly is 32-bit protected mode.

Anything written for DOS uses only the 16-bit real-mode instructions,
so I don't think this conversion will be an easy task, and may not be
even possible at all. I'm sure not an assembler expert so I can't help
you here !

Good Luck 

On 29 Jul 1999 04:34:35 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>ryan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I am looking for an assembler for linux.  I need a linux executible of
>>an .asm file that was written for Borland Turbo Assembler (tasm32) for
>>the Win NT platform.  Is this possible?
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Ryan T. Rhea
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>man gcc.  I think gcc -s assembles programs.
>
>Coy
>
>-- 
>Coy Hile
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
>Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Need script to convert filenames from UPPER to lower
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:22:35 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> As I read the problem, we have a lot of files to rename, not a
> file whose contents need translation.
> 
> find . -type f -print | while read name
> do
>    echo $name
>    mv $name `echo $name | tr A-Z a-z`
> done
> 
> That is, starting in the current directory, find all the ordinary files
> and rename them with lowercase letters.  Leave the directory names
> (and pipes and device nodes...) alone.  
> 
> We assume, for simplicity, there aren't any lowercase-named files
> lying around that would get clobbered by their similarly named
> neighbors.
> 
> Beware the tr(1) command.  Christopher gave it an argument that only
> GNU tr will understand.  I gave an arg that GNU and BSD tar will know.
> The System V tr prefers '[A-Z]' with brackets.  The quotes would
> prevent your shell from interpreting the brackets.

Just as an aside, if you only want to do this once and don't want to 
bother with a full script, you can do it all in a single command:

for i in `find . -type f`; do j=`echo $i | tr A-Z a-z`; mv $i $j; echo 
$i; done

You certainly wouldn't want to type this very often though :)

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: please, urgent, EXECV, how it's running ?!?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:36:16 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My cgi script use root owner and group and perhaps my exec function dont
> use the same user and group ?!?

Are you positive that the cgi script is actually *running* as root? Try 
making it write a file somewhere, and see what happens to that. I believe 
Apache can be configured (or may be by default) to ignore setuid flags. I 
know I had this problem when writing a CGI script that needed root 
access.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: Torben Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat and Nowell Netware
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:30:21 +0000

Hi there,

I have installed RedHat 6.0 and configured a netware printer for my
linux box.

It works fine as root, but when I log in as an ordinary user I cannot
print before root has logged in and typed "slist -S server -U username
-P mypasswd" - but after this there are no problems!!!

If I run the "printtool" program (as root) then the ordinary user can
print as well.

What is going on here????

Regards
Torben

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Unresolved symbols in module...
Date: 29 Jul 1999 10:38:26 GMT


Make clean does not erase the modules in /lib/modules/<whatever>. You have to
do that manually. If you are wary of this step, then rename the directory
before you do make modules_install. The error messages at boot are harmless,
but I don't like them either. I can't explain why the >>defiles came up
empty, I do it all the time.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Assembler for linux on Intel platform.
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:47:00 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am looking for an assembler for linux.  I need a linux executible of
> an .asm file that was written for Borland Turbo Assembler (tasm32) for
> the Win NT platform.  Is this possible?

You would need to edit the asm file a bit I believe, but NASM is a 
perfectly good assembler:

http://www.web-sites.co.uk/nasm/

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: Michael Hasenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++???
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:29:52 +0200

Graham Ashton wrote:
> >First, would you please be so kind and NOT quote lots of lines of the
> >previous posting(s) ...
> 
> is it just me, or did you totally fail to follow your own advice?

It is just you. Look again. (of course, there�re always people who
complain)
Next time send me an email and don�t misuse the net for your idiotic
flames. I�m not much better - I always respond the same way I�m
attacked.


-- 
Michael Hasenstein
http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/
Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998

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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I resize my Linux-partition?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 07:25:21 -0400

"Arik Funke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd like to resize my Linux-partition!
> How can I do this?

ext2resize is designed to do this.  It's beta software, though.
I haven't used it myself.

http://www.dsv.nl/~buytenh/ext2resize/

-Tom

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From: Craig Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:26:27 +0000

mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would prefer to not discuss Microsoft API, they are almost always
>poorly implemented. A bad implementation is not an example of a bad
>technology. Besides the DirectX crap is more than a .DLL it an OS
>extension that calls directly into the device drivers and presents an
>operating system interface.

Actually, DirectX shouldn't suffer from the problem in the way MFC
does, as DX has a COM interface (see someone elses comments on
COM).

DX is a dodgy API, but a bad example of the problem being discussed.

As as aside - I wish we had a Graphics API on Linux with the
performance of DirectX (Direct3D kills MesaGL in terms of performance,
even if D3D is a bitch to program compared to GL).

Craig.


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From: Nguyen-Dai Quy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mounting VFAT floppy error ! Help !!!
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:45:35 +0200

Hi,
I use RH-5.2, kernel 2.0.36. In my /etc/fstab I have :
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat user,noexec,nodev,nosuid,rw,noauto,conv=binary
0 0 

I can use floppy DOS'format without problem... until yesterday !!!
When I mount :

$ mount /mnt/floppy

I have error :

  floppy0: probe failed ...
  floppy0: probe failed ...
  floppy0: probe failed ...
  floppy0: probe failed ...
  floppy0: probe failed ...
  floppy0: probe failed ...
  end_request: I/O error dev 02:00, sector 0
  FAT bread failed
  mount : wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0 or too
many mounted file
  systems

There is only Win's partition mounted at this moment. With the same
floppy I can read without problem at another Linux (RH-5.2) box and
Window95.

I try :
[quy@bobo] ~/tmp$ tar cvf /dev/fd0 vnkbd-hai.txt
vnkbd-hai.txt
tar: Seulement 4096 octets �crits sur un total de 10240 vers /dev/fd0
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting
now                                                            

I see:
[quy@bobo] ~$ cat /proc/filesystems
        ext2
nodev   proc
nodev   nfs
       
vfat                                                                                   
       

I can use ZIP // driver with VFAT filesystem without any problem !

Have any ideas for help me ?
Thanks in advance.
PS : If possible, I would like to receive your message at my email
address, THANKS !
--
NGUYEN-DAI Quy
LTAS-M�canique de la Rupture des Solides, Universit� de Li�ge
Rue Ernest Solvay 21, B�t C3, B-4000, Li�ge, Belgique.
T�l:+32-4-3669324 (bureau) 3491529 (domicile) Fax:+32-4-3669311
http://bobo.ltas.ulg.ac.be/~quy

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From: Jean-Louis Botcazou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Un nouveau Club Linux en =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=F4tes?= d'Armor (
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:39:39 +0200

Bonjour,

Je m'appelle Jean-Louis Botcazou et j'ai l'intention de cr=E9er courant
septembre un Club d'utilisateurs de Linux dans le Tr=E9gor (Cotes d'Armor=

et Finist=E8re). Les seuls crit=E8res pour enfaire partie est d'habiter
(m=EAme temporairement) dans le Tr=E8gor, de s'interesser =E0 Linux et au=
x
logiciels libres.

si vous =EAtes int=E9ress=E9s contactez-moi :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ou Jean-Louis Botcazou

    29 place de la Mairie
    22700 Perros Guirec

tel : 02.96.91.21.73
mob : 06.81.87.75.00


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From: Craig Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:30:51 +0000

Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc subvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hum...i don't know a lot about anything, but I was just dynamically li=
nking
>> two shared objects in Linux and
>> they both have several functions with the same name, and it works just
>> fine...so whats the problem???
>
>What happens is that only one gets used in that case. The linker resolve=
s
>the symbol into the first shared library, and all subsequent calls use
>that. If the interface spec for the functions is identical between all
>the libraries in use, there will be no problem.
>
>What breaks things is when you have identical symbols in shared librarie=
s
>with different sonames, and the interface spec or internals differ so
>much that the two implementations cannot deal with each other. At that
>point you either get link or load problems or data corruption at runtime=
=2E

Enter glibc, stage left...

Craig.


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From: Fredrik Gl�ckner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Encoding MPEG video and sound?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:43:06 +0200

I have recently made a short animation.  I used the Berkeley mpeg_encode
to compress the video into MPEG format.  As far as I could see, this
encoder cannot make an MPEG video with sound.

Are there any encoders available for Linux which can encode an MPEG
video with sound?

Fredrik

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From: "Alex Abreu" <simonet at bhnet dot com dot br>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Unresolved symbols in module...
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:09:32 -0500

First of all, thank you and the other guys for the help.

Cameron L. Spitzer wrote in message ...
>Oops, if you're making a set of kernel + modules all at once, put the
>version info in them.

the reason I started making everything w/o version info is because with
version info I was getting a lot of messages about version mismatch
(something like "Your 2.0.36 modules do not match your kernel version
2.0.36", which sounds quite weird for me).

Should I rebuild everything now using version info? What about the version
mismatch error?

Again, thanks.  This thread's been of great help.

Yours,

Alex




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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:54:13 +0000

Mads Dydensborg wrote:
> 
> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > Do you have any clue as to what the problem might be or even how to fix
> > > it/get around it???  I'm afraid I might have to re-format!!
> > >
> >
> > The only time I ever see this is a due to a flakey X server and using
> > Netscape. It has happened to me four times in three years.
> 
> Ah, but there is a sligth difference here: A X/netscape crash (never
> happened to me personally, but I did have an X/StarOffice crash and
> have talked to other about the X/Netscape crash) can be resolved by
> remotely logging in to the system and killing netscape - sometimes it
> may be neccesary to restart the X server. For some reason X is able to
> "lock the console" in this particular situation.

Stop right there. What I said is what I meant. Netscape locks up the
XServer and every things else. I have other machines here from which I
could telnet, but the system would not even ping.

-- 
Mohawk Software
Windows 95, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support. 
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com

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From: Franck Guillaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:05:03 +0100

Hello World,


Craig Graham wrote:
> 
> As as aside - I wish we had a Graphics API on Linux with the
> performance of DirectX (Direct3D kills MesaGL in terms of performance,
> even if D3D is a bitch to program compared to GL).
> 

    Hmmm... Any benchmark ?

                            Franck.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: XFS and True-Type fonts
Date: 29 Jul 1999 11:52:36 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca

On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:16:26 -0400, Andy Busch wrote:
 >I have a Mandrake 6.0 installation and it uses XFS for rendering fonts.
 >I used to use xfstt, but I'd like to leave as much as I can as
 >installed.  Mandrake came with some true-type fonts, but I'd like to add
 >more.  There seems to be more to it than just putting some *.ttf files
 >in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts (and restarting XFS, which I don't
 >know how to do, so I reboot).
 >
You need to run ttmkfdir to create a suitable fonts.scale and then
run mkfontdir.  To restart xfs, do 

/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart

Bob T.

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From: Antonino Iannella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IBM Netfinity 5500 and Caldera 2.2 Problems
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:44:18 +0930


There is little support for the IBM netfinity / Serveraid controller.
Officially from IBM, Linux does work on their servers,
and they even provide a white paper on how to install it.
They have released their own kernel drivers (still in beta)
for the serveraid controllers.
The fun part is that you must patch an existing, working Linux
system.
You may have trouble with the ethernet card, since it probably
is not detected under linux.

Robert C Flisik wrote:
> 
> We have Netfinity 5500's and would like to move from NT to Linux. We
> purchased the 2.2 distribution of Caldera. Each time we try to load in the
> install, the system will hang at the load kernel message. Afterwords a hard
> reboot is required.
> We have tried the shipped install floppy, and well as LISA - both with
> similar results - a lock up at the LILO message.
> We would like to use the Caldera distribution, but I have read that RedHat
> does support the ServeRaid II controller in the Netfinity series. Can
> anyone help?
> 
> Details:
> 450 PII, 128MB, (2) 9GB drives.
> 
> Thanks in Advance,
> Bob Flisik
> 
> ------------------  Posted via SearchLinux  ------------------
>                   http://www.searchlinux.com

-- 

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Consulting division             Fax  : +61 8 8303 4403
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From: David Mcilroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to avoid needing an fsck (was: Linux crashed)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:32:43 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K Kal wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
> I have a big problem on my hands!
>
> I think I've crashed my Linux system.  I was running some applications
> in the background, and all of a sudden the system froze.  I know that
> doesn't make sense, but that's what happened!

Here's a tip a friend taught me--As long as the keyboard interrupt is
still operating, and you either A) compiled "Magic Sysrq key" into the
kernel, or B) you haven't recompiled a RedHat distro (I don't know about
the rest)
Try the following key combo---
Hold down <alt>, then hold down the <SysRq> key (Print screen).  While
holding these two keys down, press 's' (emergency sync disks) 'u'
(emergency unmount filesystems) and 'b' (emergency reboot).  This will
work even if <ctrl>-<alt>-<del> fails, if the interrupt is still active.
Hope this helps any or all.  This is a great reason to compile that last
option (magic key) into the kernel.

David


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