Linux-Misc Digest #214, Volume #21               Thu, 29 Jul 99 19:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: ftp uploading, man ftpaccess sucks! (Jeff Greer)
  Re: What I think of linux. (Jay Fink)
  Re: f90 compiling error
  SuSE kernel....where is it?.... ("Nevyn")
  Re: Is RPM unique to Linux ? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: cdrecord don't records cd's !!! (Matt Cole)
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Andrew Shuttlewood)
  Re: Making boot disk image for El Torito CD (Matt Cole)
  Re: Is RPM unique to Linux ? (Matt Cole)
  SB 16 PCI drivers? (Matt Cole)
  Re: Which flavor of Linux to use? (DHobbs)
  Re: Newbie needs help w/ RH 6.0 (Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ved=F8y?=)
  Re: RAID1 Questions (Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ved=F8y?=)
  Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed) (Philip W. Darnowsky)
  Netscape majorly sluggish after browsing for a while (Warren Bell)
  Re: Reading News Offline (Roberto Alsina)
  Re: Linux has finally crashed (Randall Parker)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Greer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ftp uploading, man ftpaccess sucks!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:11:08 GMT

>
>This was my stock ftpaccess with my 5.2 and it seems to work okay.  Try
>it...
>
>class   all   real,guest,anonymous  *
>.....

still stuck
u/l will not work for anon ftp
I checked the permissions on dirs, works with other users but not
anonymous.

Something could be wrong in /etc/ftpaccess but I've tried a dozen
combos.

I'm using in.ftpd which is called by inetd.  RH 5.2
--
Jeff Greer
B.S. computer science, University of MO - Rolla
==================================================
Windows NT has crashed,
I am the Blue Screen of Death,
No one hears your screams...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Fink)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:18:46 GMT

Crap I totally mucked this up:

>
>once again - not for linux or unix - maybe some new fangled apple or
>something. remember linux was originally built for and by geeks.
>

Correction - I was referring to the INTERFACE. The core OS is not the
issue with most people (except power users and geeks) it is the
interface.

Linux inherently has tons more power than Windows and more stability -
but - the end user interface is rough for Windows or MAC users.

The "new fangled" is a reference to the Interface, not the Core OS.
Most end users are more concerned with task oriented eye candy.

Linux could be that core OS, or (and more likely) bit's o Linux will
be employed for that, bit's o' GNU, and lot's of bits of GTK+, bit's
o'- well you get the idea.

As for me, hell I like the Blackbox Desktop the most.

--/J

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.fortran,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: f90 compiling error
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:07:12 GMT

Kamran Mohseni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a red hat linux 6 on my machine.

Version 6.0 of RedHat is based on GNU libc version 2.1.
You may want to read what http://www.nag.co.uk/ has to say about
the need to compile and link against the libc5 libraries and
include files. (Actually, linking against GNU libc 2.0 often
seems to work, but 2.1 has more drastic incompatibilities with libc5.)
Their solution is worded in terms of the f95 compiler, but you should
be able to transpose it to f90 2.2 with little or no difficulty.

> I recently instaled f90 Version 2.2(260) compiler from NAG.
[...]
>  Kami > make -f Makeinit
> f90   -o initdns initdns.o /home/mohseni/mohseni/Br/FFTLibHome/libgpfa.a
> 
> /usr/local/lib/f90/libf90.a(open.o): In function `__NAGf90_open':
> open.o(.text+0xc77): undefined reference to `_fxstat'

You could probably get away with mappig _fxstat to __fxstat, but then
you'll stumble into the __setfpucw business; and if you work around
that, who knows what subtle problem will bite you next. Oh, I know:
there are the changes to stdio that will force me to recompile
libpgplot myself instead of copying it over from Debian 2.1 :-(

Definitely install the libc5 development environment and use that.

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From: "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE kernel....where is it?....
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:11:42 +0100

i've got the cut down version of SuSE 6.0 installed, it dont have the ppp
built in for some reason but i cant find the kernal to rebuild it or edit
it,......make xconfig in /usr/src/linux dont work as the linux part dont
exist.....help if you can....

--

*************************************
**  "yurtta sula cihanda sula"  **
*************************************





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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is RPM unique to Linux ?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:54:35 +1000

Matt Cole wrote:
> 
> My understanding (and I could very well be wrong) is that RPMs are
> specific to RedHat.  e.g., I use Slackware, and I can't use RPMs on my
> system...if I'm wrong about this, someone set me straight, please.

Sorry, you're wrong.

All you need to do is get the RPM source code as a tarball, compile
and install it and you're set. Search http://freshmeat.net for the
latest RPM tarball.

Erik
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
A sufficiently advanced programming error is
indistinguishable from the Windows 95 Operating System.

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From: Matt Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: cdrecord don't records cd's !!!
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:44:54 -0500

It could be a buffer underrun -- try setting the record speed to 1X -- it'll
make burning slow, but more reliable.

Sergio MG wrote:

> Hello
>
> I have problems saving CD's with cdrecord (release 1.6.1). Some times
> it works fine and sometimes fails, with a ratio of 50 % (UF!!!).
>
> The device is a YAMAHA CRW4416S, and the command line I use is like
> this:
>
> # cdrecord -v dev=3,0 speed=2 fs=28m dsk.img
>
> (I force some options, like speed and fs, waiting to reduce the
> errors, but... NOT)
>
> cdrecord detects a 'Generic mmc CD-RW' uses the driver:
>     'generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr)'
>
> The error occurs in the operation of fix the CD and the output of
> cdrecord, at this point, is:
>
> -------------------------------------
> Fixating...
> cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd:
> retryable error
> CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 70 00 06 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 29 00 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x6 Unit Attention, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x29 Qual 0x00 (power on, reset, or bus device reset
> occurred) Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
> cmd finished after 19.518s timeout 480s
> Fixating time:   33.657s
> ------------------------------------
>
> Problems in the SCSI bus ??? The machine has a Adaptec AIC-7890/1 Ultra2
> SCSI,
> and with the CDW it supports another CD and the HD with the
> filesystem....
>
> some idea ? some option of cdrecord that my blind mind don't see ?
> someone
> needs a lot of pretty coasters that looks like a CD (is the fashion)...
>
> Thanks in advance...

--
"So Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is
dumb."
 -- Dark Helmet (Rick Moranis), "Spaceballs"



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From: andy@confusion. (Andrew Shuttlewood)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:17:50 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>Actually, I'd love a port of Miami DX to Linux (although I realise it's
>impossible) - setting up ip-masq and ppp under Linux to just _work_ is
>much harder than it needs to be IMHO. When I got my modem for my Amiga I
>simply loaded up Miami, it detected my modem, I told it my ISP phone
>numbers and password, and I was connected. Under Linux it's a bit
>harder. Kppp is a step in the right direction - it seems to do a lot of
>work for you - but it's not a unified solution, and it doesn't detect
>your modem settings (although it does read your modem config) from a
>list of possibles, and it's not unified throughout the system (e.g. it
>doesn't make changes to the core ppp scripts so I can type "ppp-on" in
>the console). [All this was on KDE 1.0 - I don't know about 1.1]

Why is it impossible????

Although it might not be totally easy to do the TCP/IP in userspace (and
might be unjustified) - management of it can be done in userspace. You can
also configure the ipchains code to expose packets to userspace tools if you
want, so it could be configured as a helper.

I doubt it'd do too well as shareware unless it was very fully featured
as released, as people would just reimplement it as free software.

-- 
Andrew Shuttlewood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"But lately it seems like everyone is joined at the hip
and I'm so fancy. oh I'm so fancy, so fancy free"
        - Good, Bad, Ugly (Ani Difranco)

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From: Matt Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Making boot disk image for El Torito CD
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:10:45 -0500


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Ok, maybe I didn't phrase my question right...does someone know how to go
about making a boot disk image for an El Torito
bootable CD?  i.e., what files need to be there, what settings are needed
for lilo.conf...the READMEs I've been reading say you have
to have LILO load the ramdisk image, not the kernel...how do you go about
doing that?

Matt Cole

Matt Cole wrote:

> If you could reply to my email address, as well as to the newsgroup, it
> would be much appreciated.  (a. I don't get on usenet very often, and b.
> other people might need the info...you never know)
>
> Here's my story -- I've got the entire Slackware 4.0 distribution
> sitting on my hard drive, and a friend of mine wants a copy of it.  I've
> got the CD burner, and I've got the CD image ready to go...I'll probably
> need to rebuild it, but other than that, it's ready to go.  I wanted to
> see if I could get a boot image on it so that he would be able to boot
> from the CD and install off the CD.
>
> What I need to know is this -- how do I go about making the boot disk
> image?  I probably wouldn't have much trouble with it, but the README's
> I've been looking at say you need to have LILO load the ramdisk image.
> a) Assuming I'll be using a 2.88M image, how do I go about making the
> boot disk?  What files do I need, what settings in fstab/lilo.conf/etc
> do I need to have?  Apparently the files stored in color.gz (the
> standard install rootdisk image), when unzipped, are somewhere around
> 3MB...is there some way to have the ramdisk loader load just the .gz
> file off the disk image?
>
> Best regards,
> Matt Cole

--
"So Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is
dumb."
 -- Dark Helmet (Rick Moranis), "Spaceballs"


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Ok, maybe I didn't phrase my question right...does someone know how to
go about making a boot disk image for an El Torito
<br>bootable CD?&nbsp; i.e., what files need to be there, what settings
are needed for lilo.conf...the READMEs I've been reading say you have
<br>to have LILO load the ramdisk image, not the kernel...how do you go
about doing that?
<p>Matt Cole
<p>Matt Cole wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>If you could reply to my email address, as well as
to the newsgroup, it
<br>would be much appreciated.&nbsp; (a. I don't get on usenet very often,
and b.
<br>other people might need the info...you never know)
<p>Here's my story -- I've got the entire Slackware 4.0 distribution
<br>sitting on my hard drive, and a friend of mine wants a copy of it.&nbsp;
I've
<br>got the CD burner, and I've got the CD image ready to go...I'll probably
<br>need to rebuild it, but other than that, it's ready to go.&nbsp; I
wanted to
<br>see if I could get a boot image on it so that he would be able to boot
<br>from the CD and install off the CD.
<p>What I need to know is this -- how do I go about making the boot disk
<br>image?&nbsp; I probably wouldn't have much trouble with it, but the
README's
<br>I've been looking at say you need to have LILO load the ramdisk image.
<br>a) Assuming I'll be using a 2.88M image, how do I go about making the
<br>boot disk?&nbsp; What files do I need, what settings in fstab/lilo.conf/etc
<br>do I need to have?&nbsp; Apparently the files stored in color.gz (the
<br>standard install rootdisk image), when unzipped, are somewhere around
<br>3MB...is there some way to have the ramdisk loader load just the .gz
<br>file off the disk image?
<p>Best regards,
<br>Matt Cole</blockquote>

<p>--
<br>"So Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph, because
good is dumb."
<br>&nbsp;-- Dark Helmet (Rick Moranis), "Spaceballs"
<br>&nbsp;</html>

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From: Matt Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is RPM unique to Linux ?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:32:09 -0500

My understanding (and I could very well be wrong) is that RPMs are
specific to RedHat.  e.g., I use Slackware, and I can't use RPMs on my
system...if I'm wrong about this, someone set me straight, please.

Matt

John Robson wrote:

> A newbie question.
> I'm just wondering : Is RPM used only on Linux ?
> Can RPM be used on FreeBSD ? and if not, why not ?  Why aren't
> applications packaged as RPM on other Unix platforms ?

--
"So Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good
is dumb."
 -- Dark Helmet (Rick Moranis), "Spaceballs"



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From: Matt Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: SB 16 PCI drivers?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:27:39 -0500

If you could a) respond to my email address, and b) respond to the
newsgroup, it would be much appreciated. (I'm not on usenet a whole lot,
and someone else might want the info...you never know.)

Does anyone know which drivers to compile into the kernel to get a Sound
Blaster 16 PCI to work?  When I went through and did a 'make config',
the help on AudioPCI97 (ES1371) said to do an 'lspci -n' and look for
'1274:1371'...it showed up when I did 'lspci -n', so I had it compile
that driver in.  It still didn't work.  Any suggestions?

Matt Cole


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From: DHobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which flavor of Linux to use?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:13:08 -0400

Elephant wrote:
> 
> Hi there.
> 
> I'm hoping to set up a dual-boot system, NT and some flavor of
> Linux/PC-unix yet to be decided.  I was hoping some of you might have a
> suggestion as to which variety would most likely lead to success.
> 
> Hardware:
> using an Intel DK440LX motherboard, 512M, 2 SCSI i/f, 2 P2-300, 66MHz
> FSB, AGP video, RAID slot (probably won't use it tho).
> 
> The proposed goal of this system is to experiment with commercial ECAD
> tools as they become available on Linux, providing a more reliable,
> low-cost alternative to NT as an in-house engineering environment.
> 
> Possible barriers are the stability of Linux video drivers, the bizarre
> SCSI BIOS on the motherboard, and the prevailing corporate wind from
> Micro$oft.
> 
> I'd like a well-supported PC-unix that takes appropriate advantage of
> multiple processors and coexists peacefully in dual-boot.  So far I'm
> leaning towards Solaris x86 or SCO.  Any thoughts?
> 
> -- Elephant

I have both Solaris 2.7 x86 and a couple versions of Linux.  I use Linux
on my SMP box and used to use Solaris on a single processor machine
until I did some timing testing and found that Redhat Linux beat the
snot out of it for speed.

If you want to find out about "which Linux" then go to www.linuxmall.com
or www.cheapbytes.com and get one of the bundle packs with all the
distributions (about $10) and load and play with each and see which one
meets YOUR needs best.

Dan

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From: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ved=F8y?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie needs help w/ RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:53:20 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi I am new to linux and I just installed Red Hat 6.0
> 
> I am kinda clueless on the whole thing.   (MS-brainwashed)
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I can tell what products were installed in the
> default install and where?    Also how do I add apps off of the apps CD?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RedHat installs software in "packages". You can get a list of all the
packages on your system by typing "rpm -qa". To see what files a certain
package has, type "rpm -ql name", i.e. "rpm -ql kernel".

rpm is also used to install/uninstall software. To install or upgrade,
use "rpm -Uvh name". To uninstall, use "rpm -e name".

If you installed gnome, you probably have a program called gnorpm. This
is much easier to use than typing rpm commands at the console, give it a
try.

Daniel Ved�y

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From: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ved=F8y?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: RAID1 Questions
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:56:35 +0200

Also, the 2.2.10 kernel doesn't handle RAID too well, you probably need
one of the latest RAID patches to 2.2.10 from ftp.kernel.org.

Daniel Ved�y

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Subject: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:06:18 GMT

Graffiti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

[snip!]

: >It is possible you could have got an alternate terminal by
: >using Alt-Fn for n=1,2,3..,6, or if you were running
: >X, Ctrl-Alt-Fn.  But if you couldn't login remotely, that is
: >not too likely.

: If console access is secure, using the Magic SysRq helps.

What exactly does the Magic SysRq do? I remember looking at the option
when I last configured my kernel, and thinking that someone had actually
found a use for the SysRq key, but I didn't actually compile it in.

And in general, does anyone have a URL for a history of the SysRq key?

--
====================================================
Phil Darnowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove spam, eggs, bacon, spam, and dot to reply.

The human brain is a remarkable organ: it begins
working the moment you wake up, and does not stop
until you get to the office.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:32:05 -0700
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape majorly sluggish after browsing for a while

Anyone have this problem?  I'm running Redhat 5.2 and after browsing or
using the system for a while with netscape open the system seems to
"load up".  When it gets like this, trying to do anything with the
browser is really slow.  It's like the memory and cpu is maxed out or
somthing.  If I try to minimize the window it slowly disappears from top
to bottom, strange.  When I close down netscape it sounds like it's
dumping out a lot of information, for about 5 seconds.  Then I restart
it and everythings back to normal.  Any ideas?

I'm running a 333MHz with 64mb ram.  I'm also using gnome/enlightenment
which I think might have somthing to do with it.

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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reading News Offline
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:08:45 GMT

In article <A8Nn3.59462$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:03:22 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tapio Riikonen) wrote:
> >> A few days ago I installed slrn and slrn-pull on my solitary home
> >> machine without troubles. I'm impressed with the systems
functionality
> >> and ease of use. Moreover, slrn has unobtrusive, pleasant console
> >> colours.
> >>
> >> Now I'd like to have the option of reading my news spool with
Netscape
> >> or KRN. After some unsuccessful attempts I give up and ask for your
> >> help.
> >>
> >> How do I access this local news spool (/var/spool/slrnpull/news)
and
> >> subscribe to news groups in Netscape and/or KRN?
> >
> >KRN has no support whatsoever for any kind of local news spool.
> >In fact, I wouldn't expect any newsreader other than slrn to be able
> >to read the spool created by slrnpull.
>
> GNUS and MH are both able to read slrnpull news spools; that doesn't
> help much with Netscape/KRN.
>
> Those that like slrn, GNUS, MH, ... may reasonably use slrnpull to
> manage the news spool;

Mmmm... how does slrnpull store things? Is it documented somewhere?
I *might* write a converter program for KRN's own internal cache
format if enough people asks for it.

It shouldn't be terribly hard since KRN's storage is quite simple.

--
Roberto Alsina (KDE developer, MFCH)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randall Parker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:10:37 -0700

In article <rq0sfh$0$37nspbi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>       I believe if you mount your file systems with the sync option (do
> a 'man mount' for details), it will not cache data but write to the disk
> immediately.

Could you do that on a per partition basis? ie don't cache on some 
partitions but do cache on others?

For instance, I don't care if the swap file gets corrupted. But I do care 
greatly that a partition that holds a database does not have whole files 
get lost. 

>  I think this is the default for FreeBSD Unix by the way, which
> is reported to be very reliable.  Yahoo for instance, started using FreeBSD
> because they found it to be so good.

I've also been wondering whether FreeBSD or OpenBSD are better at SMP. Do 
they not have the problem that Linux has with too many cross-CPU kernel 
locks ?

>       NOTE:  I've been using linux since oh, about 1994, and while I don't
> make a habit of cycling power or resetting my computer without a shutdown, it
> has happened from time to time, and I don't think I ever had a severely
> corrupted file system as a result.


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