Linux-Misc Digest #233, Volume #21 Sat, 31 Jul 99 12:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Ghost Pro (JM)
Re: CIA assassinations (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: IDE vs scsi? (David)
Re: search source for talk (Paul Kimoto)
Re: realaudio player w/source code (morphosis)
TV Tuner ("Gregor Gregori�")
Re: Am I damaging my Monitor !! (David)
Re: What I think of linux. (Heeeeeeeez back!)
Re: What I think of linux. (Heeeeeeeez back!)
Re: X: monitor resolution settings (Heeeeeeeez back!)
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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghost Pro
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:54:46 +0000
Thanks for the suggestions.. dd should do it.
But what would be the result if the destination hard disk size
is different?
What I am trying to do is create a minimal ( linux
boot disk, with stuff to recognize 3c589 eth cards, and
some program (for eg: dd or cat) that can read a file from a
Novell server (I don't have a choice about the server,
- but I have done IPX and ncpfs before with Linux, and hopefully
should be able to do it myself) - and overwrite the local harddisk
with the image.
The major problem that I have is: I need a program that can
read just the data areas (bet. 400MB to 2GB - not the whole 6B harddisk)
and be able to write it back, probably have some compression built in
to save disk space on the server etc.. (yes I know... dd with number of
sectors specified etc.. and gz the file created with dd) but...
I have to finally get this disk to a group of people who won't do anything
other than the commands I give them, case sensitive! This automated setup
will be used to clone anywhere between 30 to 400 laptops and then
overwrite some machine/user specific information on them.
Ghostpro under DOS was our previous option.. I need a more reliable
one..one that does not need a reboot of the machine to recognise the
changed partition table., so I can update the machine specific info also in
one go...
Thanks for all your help..
JM
John Thompson wrote:
> JM wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of a program for linux similar to
> > GhostPro (from Binary Research) - a program to duplicate
> > harddisks by creating a file image of one harddisk and
> > applying this image on to another harddisk, possibly checking
> > for any differences in size from the source and acting accordingly..?
>
> Check out the "dd" command. Should come as part of the
> linux fileutils package.
>
> --
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:11:53 GMT
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:52:25 +0200, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Donovan Rebbechi schreef:
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:29:09 +0200, A.T.Z. wrote:
>> >Richard Kulisz schreef:
>>>> Corporations will remain wherever they can make a profit, and
>>>> this has been demonstrated in the USA and Australia.
>>>
>>>Nonsense. It is happening. Where have you been the last few
>>>years. Companies using the possibilities there are. Perhaps the
>>>head-office in Washington and the factory in Argentina.
>>
>> Ah yes, of course. All the companies are moving out of the USA and
>> Australia.
>
>Do I claim ALL; NO. But it is happening. An example taken direct from
>the real word. Dutch shipyards are building ships in Poland cause
>labour is cheaper there than in The Netherlands. After the ship is
>build it is shipped to The Netherlands for the finishing touch
>(engines, wiring, accomodation etc). The company stays in The
>Netherlands but much of the labour is done in an other
>country. Result: less labour stays in The Netherlands.I do not blame
>Poland or the shipyard for this.
>
>One of the reasons of this expensive labour are the high taxes.
>
>I know this kind of thing happens al the time, and expect more to
>follow. Face it; in The Netherlands labour costs about $35 per hour,
>in other countries it can be as low as $4 per hour for the same
>activity. The clothing industry takes full advantage of this. And I
>know others too.
It often happens with goods that are readily shipped in this manner.
This works with goods like clothing, shoes, and toys.
These are goods that have high markups (ergo the "evil capitalists"
are reaping bountiful profits on them), and where it doesn't much
matter if they need to wait a couple months for a ship to come in from
Bangladesh.
>> <SARCASM>The evidence for this is a huge reduction in the nations
>> GDP per capita, the end result being a massive recession in both
>> countries, resulting in triple digit unemployment and mass
>> starvation</SARCASM>
>>
>> Not.
>>
>> This urban legend might be able to stir up some sentiments, but the
>> fact remains that the US ( and Australia for that matter ) aren't
>> experiencing the massive recessions that would accompany the kind
>> of exodus that you just described.
>
>For some companies it's difficult to split activities. And don't
>forget, it takes some time before a large company can close a factory
>and build a new one in another country.
And it realistically only happens with goods that are compatible with
this sort of activity.
During the 1980s, Mitel had the "cool idea" that they could save money
by having switches and phones manufactured in Korea, as this would
save considerable money over producing them in Kanata.
Oddly enough, they wound up reversing this decision.
They did indeed find it "cheaper" to produce the switches in Korea,
but this turned out to be merely one piece of the equation.
- Shipping fragile electronic equipment so many thousands of miles is
not the same as tossing around cargo containers filled with shoes.
- "Shrinkage" does happen, whether due to damage, accidental loss, or
theft. That's no big deal when the loss is a dress that cost $10 to
make. It is a big deal when the loss is a switch that cost $50K to
make. In addition, the clothing industry orders more clothing than
people will ever buy at full price, quite evident if you look at
"remainders;" the same is *not* true for a maker of state-of-the-art
phone switches.
- The clothing industry is used to having inventories that any other
industry would consider immensely wasteful. In order to get product
scheduled for deployment in a reasonable manner, Mitel would have to
estimate sales considerably in advance.
The last issue is what nixed the Korean manufacturing operation; Mitel
found that if they got a rush order, they couldn't possibly fill it,
because there was so much lead time required.
- With manufacturing operations in Kanata, if someone comes in wanting
a switch "tomorrow," (with a windfall profit to match), they could
give a parts supplier in Ottawa or Toronto a call, have parts in
immediately, and get to work.
- With manufacturing operations in Korea, the equivalent scenario has
a step of "wait for two weeks while switch travels on slow boat."
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE vs scsi?
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:13:44 -0500
"Duy D." wrote:
> I'm considering to buy a scsi disk to install Linux on. When i do
> hdparm -t /dev/hda on my ide disk, it reads about 15 mb/s most of the
> time. Can somebody give me a number on the fastest scsi disk? Thanks.
I use a Seagate Barracuda LVD 9.1GB model # ST39173LW it is capable of
80MB/s and works great.
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: search source for talk
Date: 31 Jul 1999 11:25:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7nut4u$fpi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Boris Woeste wrote:
> pleaze see above ...
Perhaps ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/chat .
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Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: morphosis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: realaudio player w/source code
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:32:48 -0500
Gergo Barany wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:31:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Anyone know of a RealAudio player for Linux (or any other OS, if it
> >comes to that) that includes the source code?
>
> There is none. The Real format is proprietary and, according to rumors,
> new versions of the software will not be available to users of
> non-mainstream operating systems.
That is the thanks the GNU community gets after the suckers @ RealAudio
leech on free software!
http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.real.com
You would think that as a token of gratitud they would at least keep up
their most recent players for the unix systems available at the same
time as that lame so called *OS.*
> Do not use that format and tell anyone
> who uses it that they should use one of the free and technically
> superior formats. There's nothing that RealAudio/Video can do that's not
> possible with other file formats.
>
> Gergo
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From: "Gregor Gregori�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TV Tuner
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:52:27 +0200
Hi,
Can I use my ATI TV Tuner on Linux (RedHat 6.0) ?
Thx
Greg
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Am I damaging my Monitor !!
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:42:04 -0500
Rakesh Mistry wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I am currently running RH6.0 on a PII 350 + 64 MB ram + 16mb Riva TNT
> machine. I also have a 15'' monitor that is not listed under Xconfigurator.
>
> the problem 'i think' is that when I switch to different resolutions (Ctrl +
> Alt +/- ) the screen seems distorted at different areas (depending on the
> resolution). Am I damaging my monitor ? Also when X just starts up (the grey
> screen just before the logon) there are horizontal lines moving across the
> screen, but once the logon screen appears it looks fine !!
>
> At the moment I have X up and running but I am not sure if I have chosen
> refresh rates that may be harmful to my Monitor.
> My monitor manual says the following :
> '15 inch multi-scanning color monitor capable of resolutions up to 1280 x
> 1024 (non-interlaced)'
> ' Multi-scanning at horizontal frequencies of 30KHz to 70 Khz, and vertical
> frequencies of 50KHz to 100KHz'
>
> I have chosen a custom monitor type and selected one
> 'that is capable of 1280 x 1024 at 60Khz'
> I have also chosen a few other resolutions that I would like
> eg 800x600 etc.
> How do I know which one to choose ?
>
> Any info would be great !!
>
> I would appreciate if you could email me directly at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (remove the REMOVETHIS :)
>
> TIA
> Rax
XF86Config modelines conversion guide
This is only a guide for calculating the modeline settings. Do Not use any
modeline settings used below as they could cause damage to your monitor. These
settings are used for example purposes only!!
Any damage you create by using the example modelines below is your damage and
your damage alone.
Calculate the modelines for your monitor as they will most likely be different
than mine.
Again the modeline settings below are example purposes ONLY!!!
******YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!******
The first thing to do if you haven't already is to contact the manufacturer of
your monitor and ask them for the video timings for your specific monitor. Then
use the following to calculate the proper settings for it.
The modeline identifies the content of this line as settings for a mode such as
1024x768 or 800x600.
The pixel clock or dot clock is expressed in MHz (1x10^h Hertz) such as 94.5
or 75.75
The setting for my monitor is 75.7500MHz but if it were listed in KHz then I
would have to divide it by 1000 to convert it into MHz.
Such as 94500KHz divided by 1000 = 94.5MHz
Horizontal Modeline Settings are calculated as follows.
The horizontal resolution or display width are the settings such as the 1024
part of 1024x768 or the 800 part of the 800x600 setting.
The next setting in the modeline is the horizontal front porch setting. It is
calculated by taking the horizontal resolution setting and adding the front
porch to it.
On my monitor this is 1024 + 16 = 1040
The next setting in the modeline is the horizontal sync. It is calculated by
taking the the front porch setting and adding the horizontal sync to it.
On my monitor this is 1040 + 96 = 1136
The next setting in the modeline is the horizontal back porch. It is calculated
by taking the horizontal sync setting and adding the back porch to it.
On my monitor this is 1136 + 176 = 1312
Vertical Modeline Settings are calculated as follows.
The Vertical resolution or vertical display is the 768 part of the display
setting 1024x768 or the 600 part of 800x600 setting.
The next setting in the modeline is the vertical front porch. It is calculated
by taking the vertical resolution setting and adding the vertical front porch
to it.
On my monitor 768 + 1 = 769
The next setting in the mode line is the vertical sync. It is calculated by
taking the vertical front porch and adding the vertical sync to it.
On my monitor 769 + 3 = 772
The next setting in the mode line is the vertical back porch. It is calculated
by taking the vertical sync and adding the vertical back porch to it.
On my monitor 772 + 28 = 800
The next setting in the mode line is the Horizontal sync. It is simply a + or
- and is set as follows. +hsync or -hsync
The last setting in the mode line is the vertical sync. It is simply a + or
- and is set as follows. +vsync or -vsync.
After calculating all the proper settings your mode line would look similar the
the following.
1024x768 75.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
Remember to calculate "your" monitor's settings as the settings used above may
damage your monitor.
****** YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! ******
If my time in typing this helps just one person to get X working then my time
was not wasted. I hope this helps in getting X to work for you.
Sorry No Guarantee!!
But It's FREE!! ;~)
Good Luck!
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From: Heeeeeeeez back! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:20:19 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc John Burg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:09:25 -0700, Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I punched my first deck of cards for an IBM 1602 (1620??) in 1968.
>>That's not a PC - it was a mainframe with lots of blinking lights
>>and a typewriter console. I miss those blinking lights.
> How quaint! ;)
You could always built a small LED array and plug it into your
parallel port to relive the old days...
:)
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From: Heeeeeeeez back! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:27:24 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I liked the YaST ppp configuration routine. All you needed to do was
> spicify
>> news, mail and nameservers, phone number, gateway IP, username and
> password,
>> and whether you were using PAP, CHAP or TERMINAL.
>> In 6.1 they removed it for some reason and decided that wvdial was
>> better. (I would have prefferred the CHOICE)
> I think it?s still there (somewhere on the CD in a directory named
> /unsorted), so you still can use suseppp.
> But you?re right, I really didn?t get that decision either.
I think the suseppp is just a bunch a chatscripts and templates, rather than
the actual YaST PPP routine... I'll give it another once over though...
(Fortunately, I backed up the scripts that WERE generated before the
upgrade)
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
| Andrew Halliwell BSc | |
| in | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
| Computer Science | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: Heeeeeeeez back! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: X: monitor resolution settings
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:39:04 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc John Brashier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am running Xfree86 on a Sony Multiscan 520GS. In setup, I checked
> about six different pixel sizes and resolutions, in the belief I could
> choose
> among them depending upon the application. I cannot seem to find the
> command line to do this choosing, nor the option under the X
> control-panel. I know its something simple, right?
> I welcome suggestions.
Try CTRL ALT <keypad +> and <keypad ->
They're used to switch resolutions...
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
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