Linux-Misc Digest #293, Volume #21 Wed, 4 Aug 99 23:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Red Hat Cable Modem (Mediaone) Probs (Doug O'Leary)
Re: helping the Third World (Kenneth P. Turvey)
Re: linux in portuguese (Michel Catudal)
Re:(Recommendations) Database program ("Kenny")
Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 (Rado Faletic)
Re: Linux PGP5 (Jeff Workman)
Cloning a hard-drive with Linux and NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: character based word processor?? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Installing rpm file on RedHat 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need Linux Help. (Gergo Barany)
Re: Netscape 4.61 Question. (Mark Post)
Re: users can't mount cdrom (Jeff Greer)
Re: setenv command (Ben Short)
Re: Need good sites for unix/linux (Kelvin Tsang)
Newbie:---Need help resizing desktop ("JMNugent")
Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed) (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Re: Changing the Hostname (John McKown)
Re: newbie: what is "Segmentaion fault"? (Jeff Workman)
Problems connecting to ISP ("Michael Reuvers")
Re: CIA assassinations (Donovan Rebbechi)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug O'Leary)
Subject: Re: Red Hat Cable Modem (Mediaone) Probs
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:43:51 -0500
[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
Hi;
I've recently won this battle between Linux and Redhat 6.0. It was long
and protracted, but I won it!
There are a couple of things that you should check.
1. As you state in another follow up, you'll need to eliminate the
PnP mode on the 3c509. I7 had to download the drivers from 3com's web
site and, once the PnP mode was eliminated, I also had to reintroduce the
NIC to Windows. That all went pretty much as expected.
2. The next thing you need to do is identify which irq and base I/O
address your nic is using. Mine was using irq 9 and base I/O of 0x210.
You can identify these settings from the Windows Control Panel, click on
System->devices->Network->3c509->properties.
3. Boot into Linux. Execute "ifconfig eth0". If it doesn't show
anything, execute "insmod 3c509". That will load the device driver
module for that card. Reexecute "ifconfig eth0". If you still don't see
anything, you'll have to rebuild your kernel. Pretty explicit directions
for that can be found in the HOWTOs which should have been loaded to your
/usr/doc/HOWTO directory.
4. Presupposing that Linux sees your card, look at the bottom of the
output of the infconfig command and check what it says is the irq and
base I/O address. If they're not the same, edit the /etc/conf.modules
file thusly:
alias eth0 3c509
options 3c509 io=0x210 irq=12
Obviously, you'll need to put whatever the correct irq and base i/o
address for your card.
5. Reboot your system and check the card again. You can check if the
module is loaded via the lsmod comand.
6. Presupposing, you've made it this far, your card is now out of PnP
mode and Linux is correctly configure to talk to it. The next step is to
run either pump or dhcpcp. Both will require the use of a -h option with
a hostname. I've heard alternate suggestions of whatever you want your
host to be named as or what your email account is. I don't think that
matters, but realize that it's supposed to be in caps. For example:
pump -i eth0 -h DOUG
is what I use.
7. My bet is that your first couple of attempts at that are going to
fail. I've tried just about every version of dhcpcd that I could get my
hands on and none of them worked. What finally did work is the version
of pump that is hiding on Redhat's errata site. Download that and stash
it in a directory that you can see from Linux. If you have the Mandrake
version of Redhat Linux, you'll have to uninstall pump via the rpm
command and install the one that you downloaded. Apparently, Mandrake's
version of pump is later than the one on Redhat's; however, Mandrake's
doesn't work with Mediaone's DHCP server. Go figure.
Long winded, I know, but it was a long battle to get this thing working.
I'd appreciate hearing if these steps worked for you. If so, maybe we
can get them stashed into a FAQ somewhere or on one of those cable modem
HOWTOs.
HTH...
Doug
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Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth P. Turvey)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:17:06 -0500
On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 12:31:35 GMT, MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:05:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(Kenneth P. Turvey) wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>>It would be quite reasonable to argue that this
>>>>redistribution of wealth is necessary for the maintenance of stability
>>>>in society.
>>>
>>>Mabye, but definitely not on planet Earth.
>>
>>What real economy that you would like to live under does not
>>redistribute wealth?
>
>The one that uses it for securing negative rights of citizens only.
What is this supposed to mean?
>>Do you really believe that education in the US was better when it
>>operated under the free market system?
>
>It was. Consult Nobel winning economist, Milton Friedman.
>Education in US was much better and cost effective when it was run
>locally or by states.
So the literacy rate was higher and we all had higher paying jobs?
Our system of government functioned better due to our well educated
citizens? I don't think so. I like to hear Milton speak, but you should
remember it is Milton Friedman speaking.
>>Because they need to if they wish to have heat in the winter, a roof
>>over their heads, food to eat, medical care for their children...
>
>Thus, it looks like they are able to operate for their own interest,
>after all. And if so, it looks like they will enter only deals that
>benefit them, short of facing monopoly. And the other side
>will do the same thing, too.
And how does your free market system prevent them from facing a
monopoly?
>>It has happened. Redistribution of wealth and unionization have
>>prevented the `revolution of the proletariat' envisioned by Marx.
>
>Oh please...
>
>There was no freaking revolution. There was not even the potential.
Exactly. Marx predicted the problem but totally missed the solution.
The solution was organized labor and redistibution of wealth (transfer
payments). Both of these exist in every economy of any complexity today.
>>Marx
>>saw the problem but was wrong about the solution. I think he deserves
>>some credit.
>
>Marx deserves no credit whatsoever. He created belief system
>consistent and closed philosophically. Aka religion.
Your adherence to the ideas Adam Smith seems to have some of the same
qualities.
--
Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
================= http://www.tranquility.net/~kturvey
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much
liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux in portuguese
Date: 4 Aug 1999 20:19:10 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I want a linux in portuguese.
> It�s exist ?
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I bought the US version of SuSE because this is the only language
version I can find here in the USA and was able to get it to setup in
French so I would assume it'd be the same for Portuguese. There may
be a specific Portuguese version but I think that only difference
would be that the book would come in Portuguese. The same probably
applies for RedHat. If you live in America you probably are better
off doing what I did because the prices in Europe are extremmely
high. Otherwise check at Cheapbytes in Portugal where the prices
might be acceptable. Cheapbytes in the US sells SuSE for about $5 or
$6 more than CompUSA or Barnes and Noble.
--
use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
use Linux for safe and quick internet access
use Winblows to test the latest viruses
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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From: "Kenny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:(Recommendations) Database program
Date: 5 Aug 1999 01:29:36 GMT
Try PostgreSQL; it's free. Visit this site
http://postgresql.org
Kenny Leong
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:24:45 +1000
From: Rado Faletic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61
Linux is open source, but there are Linux applications which are NOT
free. And, there are application for which the source is not available
(such as the SBLive drivers from Creative Labs). So to use this
arguement on Microsoft simply because it's Microsoft is a bit unfair.
I doubt they could monopolise the Linux marget, especially since they
have no cash control over the OS. However, all we're saying is that some
of their software would be appreciated by some of us Linux users. They
main example is IE5, which is stable, fast, graphical browser and it's
free.
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From: Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux PGP5
Date: 04 Aug 1999 21:56:17 -0400
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"Shamsuddin, Amir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Could someone point me to a linux e-mail client which supports pgp5
> encryption? I have so far failed to find anything useful. (Most only
> support pgp 2.6.2 )
Pine supports PGP 5.0. You have to either write a few shell scripts for
wrappers to get this to work correctly, or e-mail me and I'll send you the
ones that I use. If you like emacs, it supports PGP 5.0 via the "mailcrypt"
package. I'm not sure of the URL for the homepage, but it can be found on
Freshmeat.
Hope this helps,
Jeff
> Thanks,
>
> Amir Shamsuddin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cloning a hard-drive with Linux and NT
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 02:09:43 GMT
Hi Gang,
I'd like to make an image of the hard drives on our PCs, and be able to
quickly clone a new drive if one of hard drives dies.
The catch is that our PCs dual-boot WindozeNT and Linux, so I'd like to
be able to restore BOTH OSs to the hard drive. If this is too tough,
I'd consider installing only Linux, creating an image, and restoring the
image. For a Linux-only solution, I suppose I could run a script to
partition a blank hard drive, make a filesystem, and copy an image file
(diskbackup.tgz) from somewhere, extract it, and reboot. Can fdisk be
run from a script (non-interactively)?
Any suggestions? Does Ghost or DriveImage copy NT and Linux
filesystems?
Thanks...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: character based word processor??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 01:36:40 GMT
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:02:16 -0800, Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I am looking for a good, character based word processor for
>Linux. The character based requirement is due to the fact
>that it will be used by many users on text-only dumb
>terminals.
>
>This needs to have the features of a standard word
>processor, not just text editing functions.
>
>Any ideas (commercial or free) would be appreciated.
See URL below for links...
- Pathetic Word (SIAG) may have a TCL/Curses interface.
- Wazo
- Angoss Smartware
- Look at Cliq; it *may* have a text UI
- There is rumor of a text mode version of WordPerfect; this would be
a Very Good Thing, if true. As far as I can tell, it's not.
I'm not sure that you'll consider any of them "good;" there has not
been a lot of effort going into such stuff.
The other suggestion would be for the users to use a text editor to
edit some markup language such as TeX, LaTeX, nroff, Lout, or SGML.
--
You shouldn't anthropomorphize computers; they don't like it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/wp.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Installing rpm file on RedHat 6.0
Date: 5 Aug 1999 01:38:20 GMT
Daniel Bizuneh wrote:
>
> I am trying to install ptolemy software from Berkeley on my RedHat 6.0
> machine. I used the command "rpm -i file_name" to install the software,
> but I keep getting the following error message:
>
> error: failed dependencies:
> /bin/sh is needed by ptolemy-bin-0.7.1p1-3
> /bin/sh is needed by ptolemy-bin-0.7.1p1-3
> /bin/sh is needed by ptolemy-source-0.7.1p1-3
> /bin/csh is needed by ptolemy-source-0.7.1p1-3
> /bin/sh is needed by ptolemy-source-0.7.1p1-3
> /bin/sh is needed by ptolemy-usersman_html-0.7.1p1-3
>
> I have looked in /bin/ directory to make sure I have "sh" and "csh"
> executable files. I noticed that
> both "sh" and "csh" are linked to "bash" and "tcsh" respectively. The
> question is how can I avoide the dependency problem that I keep getting?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniel Bizuneh
If you believe that the needs are really covered you can:
rpm -Uvh --nodeps ptolemy*.rpm
You can
rpm -e ptolemy-bin
rpm -e ptolemy-source
rpm -e ptolemy-usresman_html
if the program doesn't work as expected.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: Need Linux Help.
Date: 5 Aug 1999 00:42:10 GMT
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:51:06 -0400, Gilbert Groehn
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have the SuSE LINUX Ver. 6.1 (KDE 1.1, Kernel 2.2.5)
>and am getting ready to load it to a bare 90 Mhz Pentium
>with 1 Gig HD and 48 Mg of RAM.
>
>My main interest is in using it as a supplemental web browser
>and I am wondering what browsers are available for Linux?
Netscape, Lynx, Amaya, Arena come to mind.
>I am a neophyte to unix and Linux and wonder if I may be getting
>in over my head. I do want to learn the system but have somewhat
>limited time for experimentation.
>
>The SuSE manual seems reasonably understandable but any additional
>pointers would be most appreciated.
The Linux Documentation Project.
>Thanks in advance for any help and/or guidance you may be able to
>furnish.
>
>Please cc any answer directly to my email address as I do not
>monitor the group.
No, I won't. Usenet is not a write-only medium.
Gergo
--
I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on
any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at
parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.61 Question.
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 02:23:15 GMT
On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:20:18 +0100, "Jarve, Jorgen (Jay)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-snip-
>Is there a way of getting Messager to start at the top of the message
>when replying or forwarding rather than at the botton. (The signature as
>well).
-snip-
Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Messages
Forwarding and Replying to Messages
Then, 'start my reply above the quoted text'
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Greer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: users can't mount cdrom
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 02:10:58 GMT
On Thu, 05 Aug 1999 02:29:51 +0200, Jens Schwepe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>forgive me, but I can't see the point:
>/bin/mount is r/x by everyone and /dev/scd0 is rwx for everyone.
>this is ok, /dev/cdrom is just a --> link to /dev/scd0.
>
>fstab says to mount /dev/scd0 (you could also say /dev/cdrom) to
>/mnt/cdrom with fs=iso9660, _not_ automatically at boot-time, read-only
>if done, and every user is able to do so (don't care about the following
>0 0, that's special).
>
>assuming the directory /mnt/cdrom (rwxr-xr-x root root) exists, you can
>mount your cd by just typing
>----zip----
>#>
>#>mount /mnt/cdrom
>#>
>----zip----
>
>btw, to my knowledge these files etc you mentioned are owned by root,
>but group should not be users but root also. what distribution do you
>use and is this root/users permanent on all files ?
I'm using RH 5.2. I changed owner and group to root and it still
won't mount.
Here is the error:
mount: must be superuser to use mount
--
Jeff Greer
B.S. computer science, University of MO - Rolla
==================================================
Windows NT has crashed,
I am the Blue Screen of Death,
No one hears your screams...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: setenv command
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:12:53 +1000
In article <7o9mj6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> What shell are you in? If you are logged in as root you have to make sure
> you are in the csh to run it.
>
> theoddone33 wrote in message <7o5hdi$212t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I'm using redhat 6.0 and I don't have the "setenv" command. I'd like to
> get
> >it, since it's very convenient. Does anyone know where I can download it,
> >or is it buried in an rpm on the RH 6.0 cd?
> >
> >--
> >theoddone33
> >"These are not my pants" - Reese Roper
> >AGQ2 Configs Page:
> >http://www.quakefiles.com/agq2configs/
> >Also visit:
> >http://www.fiveironfrenzy.com
> >To email, descramble the pig latin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
check /etc/passwd to see which shell you are using, its probably bash -
export env_var="var value" should do the same job, otherwise you can just
set up to use another shell ;)
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From: Kelvin Tsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need good sites for unix/linux
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:31:57 +0800
Steen, Kenny. Thanks a lot
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From: "JMNugent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie:---Need help resizing desktop
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:56:09 -0600
Well, Just got RedHat 6.0 and gnome installed....Everything went great, but
the desktop is all big and clunky. I thought I specified 1024X768, but it
looks more like
480X640. I've got a few icons on the background and a menu bar at the
bottom. I looked through everything for about an hour trying to find the
control panel for the video/desktop but cant find it.....now I've rebooted
back into Win98 to read documentation but havent found anything yet....mabye
a kind person could help me out...
--jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Subject: Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 15:35:05 GMT
Tom Emerson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: heheheh -- I used to get a good laugh out of the look on people's faces when
: I tell them "all we use a PC around here is to connect to the 'real'
: computer..."
Oddly enough, that's what I use my SGI O2 for here. It may be the world's
fanciest and most expensive xterm.
: (oh, and BTW, "fujitsu" makes a pc-based version of Cobol, inlcuding [get
: this] "visual" cobol...)
[shudder]
--
====================================================
Phil Darnowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove spam, eggs, bacon, spam, and dot to reply.
The human brain is a remarkable organ: it begins
working the moment you wake up, and does not stop
until you get to the office.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Subject: Re: Changing the Hostname
Date: 5 Aug 1999 02:56:59 GMT
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:05:41 -0700, Mikeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm new to Unix. I have Redhat6.0 Linux installed. I'm trying to change
>the local host name but I can't figure it out. I searched DejaNews and see
>there are alot of people in my boat, but no one really had an answer. Has
>anyone here successfully done this?
>
>Thanx,
>MikeG
I just "fiddled" with things. On my RH 6.0 system, there is a file
/etc/sysconfig/network
In this file there is a line:
HOSTNAME="MyHost.com"
This appears to set the host name. I tested this by changing this entry,
and NOTHING ELSE, and rebooted. My hostname had then changed. It appears
to be set in the script
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
This script sources the /etc/sysconfig/network script and exports the
HOSTNAME variable.
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From: Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie: what is "Segmentaion fault"?
Date: 04 Aug 1999 22:07:34 -0400
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Andrew de los Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hi.
>
> I'm a linux newbie. occasionally I get an error message "Segmentation fault
> (core dumped)". Could someone tell me where it's dumped to, is it sitting
> around wasting my limited HD space? Am I completely off base?
To oversimplify it, a segmentation fault means that your program crashed,
something similar to a GPF in windows. (Somebody please correct me if I'm
wrong)
It's dumped to a file named "core" and it'll be left in whatever was the
current working directory.
If you don't want coredumps to be dumped, add this to your .bash_login file
(assuming your shell is bash, of course:
ulimit -c 0
Hope this helps,
Jeff
> thaks in advance,
> Andrew de los Reyes
>
>
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "Michael Reuvers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Problems connecting to ISP
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:40:13 -0600
I just recently down loaded Redhat Linux 6.0 from one of their mirror sites.
I installed it with very little problems (woohoo). I found where to setup my
Internet connection in "Linuxconf". It dials but never successfully
establishes a PPP connection. I checked my system logs. The only problem I
can find is this :
"Device modem is locked by pid 7894"
The pid number changes depending on how many times I try. If someone had
some suggestions on how to solve this problem it would be most appreciated.
Thanks!
....Mike
*Note: If you haven't guess yet, I'm a newbie with Linux but fairly computer
proficient.
:)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 4 Aug 1999 11:31:36 -0400
On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 14:57:48 GMT, MK wrote:
>And Canadian doctors go to US to cure themselves if they
>get sick.
This just proves that the US has more specialists than any other
country which is hardly surprising given it's size.
It can also be used to argue that someone on a doctors salary or
better can receive good health care in the US. It says NOTHING
about the health care available to the ordinary citizen.
Or do we hear a confession that you only believe in health care for
those with 6 figure incomes ?
--
Donovan
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