Linux-Misc Digest #293, Volume #25 Mon, 31 Jul 00 09:13:01 EDT
Contents:
realtek 8029 ("alikbm")
Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. (Johan Kullstam)
Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (Tim Palmer)
Re: Mandrake 7.1 (Ron Ng)
Re: Linux sees only 64 M of RAM ??? (Ron Nicholls)
missing library (Ron Nicholls)
Re: Console font / resolution ("ne...")
Re: rpm problem (Dances With Crows)
Re: Console font / resolution (Faux_Pseudo)
Re: LILO with LIL- problem ("pascal")
File extensions (astorwilliam)
Re: Adding another IDE drive (peter pilsl)
Loop-Boot with Lilo and SCSI ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Looking for glibc 2.2 to get XFree86 4.x working ("Frederik Tilkin")
Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (Kevin Croxen)
[Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Jose Manuel
Benitez Sanchez)
Re: File extensions (Christopher Browne)
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From: "alikbm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: realtek 8029
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:07:13 +0200
Reply-To: "alikbm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi i am trying to get my RTL8029 pci card to work under linux (mandrake 7.1)
from some reason i can't get it work.
i downloaded and installed the updated ne2k_pci driver from realtek but
when i try to do insmod ne2k_pci.o it gives me something like that:
unresolved symbol ei_open/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol ethdev_init/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol pci_drv_unregister/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol ei_interrupt/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol NS8390_init/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol ei_close/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol pci_drv_register
what should i do?
as i know there have to be no problem regarding that NIC under linux
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Subject: Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:27:34 GMT
"Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Greetings,
>
> I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
> all, as I could not believe it myself. I am a Slackware user, and
> recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1. I have noticed some bugs
> but this one is just too much:
>
> [anm@hawk ~] file /etc/passwd
> /etc/passwd: ASCII test
>
> ASCII test? I mean really.
really? i am using redhat 6.2 and get
euler(jk)$ file /etc/passwd
/etc/passwd: ASCII text
> This, to me, is indicative of the haphazard
> way in which RH/Mandrake is thrown together.
this, to me, is a perfect illustration of the fundamentally bogus
nature of the vast bulk of accusations against redhat. redhat does
have problems, do us the favor of levelling competant criticism
instead of making stuff up off the top of your head.
> There are of course other
> bugs, too numerous to mention here....
like the way file is just a guesser and ultimately broken on *every*
unix system?
file is not the most important utility on a unix system. since you
are just blowing smoke, why not make up stuff about a more important
component?
> This is very dissappointing, as
> one would think that they test thier RPMs before distributing them.
this is very dissappointing as i would have though that people test
their accusations before flinging them.
> Sadly, I guess this is not the case, and I am now reminded why I like
> Slackware (or Debian) so much. Attention to detail.
sadly, i guess this is not the case. i am now reminded of why i feel
there is a certain small but vocal subset of slackware and debian who
use a religious conviction of their distribution's alledged
superiority to justify any amount of misinformation, slander and lying
to bolster their position. there really are a lot of decent slackware
users. why do you insist on giving them a bad name?
> [ Thank you for listening to my rant! ]
i think your rant says more about you, than it says about any system
you are trying to malign.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:21:18 GMT
In article <8m2vm7$bf8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]Greetings,
>
> ] I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
> ]all, as I could not believe it myself. I am a Slackware user, and
> ]recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1. I have noticed some bugs
> ]but this one is just too much:
>
> ][anm@hawk ~] file /etc/passwd
> ]/etc/passwd: ASCII test
>
> Dear oh dear. Mandrake must definitely be on its last legs. First they
list
> their man version (man -v) as 1.5f when it is really 1.5g, and now
they have a
> misprint, putting in "test" rather than "text". Definitely a complete
> disaster-- the whole operating system no longer works-- noone can do
> anything, no program runs. The Horror, The Horror.
>
> And oh dear, it is worse than that. That Mandrake did not write "file"
> and uses the same source as does Slackware is irrelevant. Mandrake
has managed to infect
> Ian Darwin, the author of "file", so that the version 3.30 (the one
> included in Mandrake) on the file page ftp.astron.com/pub/file also
contains
> the same error. I can see it now. Soon even Slackware will be
infected,
> and the world will end.
>
Yes I agree with this bug, it is existing in my downloaded version of
Mandrake 7.1 file command
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From: Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 07:44:55 -0500
Cap'n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I'll admit I'm somewhat of a newbie to Mandrake Linux,
>and this is probably a stupid question...but, I need the
>answer.
>
>I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on my system in a dual boot with
>Win98. My hard drive is in four partitions:
>
>Partition 1: Win98 system files (1.5 GB) - hdc1
>Partition 2: Win98 programs (8 GB) - hdc2
>Partition 3: Linux Swap (133 MB) - hdc6
>Partition 4: Linux Native: Mandrake Distro (2.3 GB) - hdc7
>
>After I installed Mandrake and LILO, Linux is the first
>boot option and loads Mandrake after 10 seconds,
>unless I type Windows. I want to set it up so that Windows
>boots after 10 seconds, unless I type Linux.
>
>What's the easiest way to change this in Mandrake? Or
>if someone could point me to a Mandrake HOWTO Web link
>for this, I would appreciate it.
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>*** The Cap'n ****
Eddit a text fial and recompial kernal.
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From: Ron Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:48:15 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does this hold true for the Toshiba Portege 7100 series? I would think not,
but if anybody has any clues, I would appreciate it. RH 6.2 runs, but I get
no X, and no networking (almost got the networking licked). Looks like it
uses Cyberblade for the video, but still can't get X-Wndows to work
successfully.
Ron
Andrey Vlasov wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> this page for you
>
> http://wtsupport.metatec.net/technotes/redhat6.2-tecra8100.html
>
> Andrey
>
> javier wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I was trying to help a colleague get X running on his Toshiba Tecra
> > 8100. He's got a Savage 3 chipset. Apparantly, there is a patch for the
> > file s3vga_vbe.c in the XFree86-3.3.x distribution which we applied.
> > Then we rebuilt and reinstalled XF86, but whenever we tried to configure
> > X using Xconfigurator, none of the test configurations worked. We got a
> > "chipset does not support configuration" error for everything we tried.
> >
> > Has anyone had any luck running X on such a machine/chipset?
> >
> > Thanks.
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From: Ron Nicholls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux sees only 64 M of RAM ???
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:02:50 -1000
Stearns25 wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Is it true that Linux only recognizes 64M of Ram and some modifications to the
> lilo.conf file (involving adding a 'mem=' line or something to that nature)
I added to "lilo.conf" just to be sure
append="memory=128M"
I have 128 meg that is actually recognized. ( include the quotes)
--
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Regards RonN
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From: Ron Nicholls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: missing library
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:32:07 -1000
Running RH 6.2
I have attempted to run a fido mail reader which need a library I don't
have.
So, where can I find "libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3" ?
Is this library current or obsolete.?
Regards RonN
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Console font / resolution
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:08:52 GMT
On Jul 30, 2000 at 17:01, Jeffrey Hood eloquently wrote:
[...]
>yepper.... doesn't seem to make any difference... it is acting like the
>options
>_after_ doing the scan aren't available... putting in 0-6 works fine...
>(those are
>the ones on the initial display on vga=ask
Please /etc/lilo.conf so I can take a look at it.
No guarantees tho..
[...]
>>This give that nice cute penguin image on bootup.
>>NOTE: vga=<value|ask> does not necessarily mean you
>>have framebuffer support in your kernel. If/when
>>your consol is messed up after exiting X, try
>>typing 'reset'.
>
>
>I do get the cute penguin on bootup with just vga=788, etc... but I will
>try
>the append line, although I would have no idea what to put on it... is there
>something in my XConfig that would point to the correct value, or something
>that I can see when X is starting ?
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/ contains framebuffer docs.
--
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Generic Fortune.
8:00am up 21 days, 11:12, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: rpm problem
Date: 31 Jul 2000 12:10:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:55:43 +0800, calvin wrote:
>I cp a rpm package from harddisk to zipdisk. And while I try to rpm the
>package from zip disk elsewhere, the system complains like this: The rpm
>file does not appear to be RPM package. I use "diff" to compare the
>originial and the copy one. It really has difference. But if I cp the
>file from zip disk to hard disk and give the new copy another name, then
>I "diff" it with the original one in harddisk. It hasn't any difference.
>
>Is it the difference file system cause the problem? The harddisk is
>mounted as ext2, and the zip disk is mounted as vfat? How can I solve
>such problem?
The filesystem should make no difference at all; I've installed many
RPMs from VFAT-formatted ZIPs. The fact that the files appear different
while using "diff" bothers me, though. You didn't mention which kernel
version you're using, but kernels 2.2.[1-5] had subtle problems with ZIP
drives that could cause data corruption. Upgrade your kernel if you are
using one of those versions.
--
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faux_Pseudo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Console font / resolution
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:13:37 GMT
--(Once apon a time, in comp.os.linux.setup,)--
--(ne... said it like only they can.)--
$/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/ contains framebuffer docs.
/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Vesafb
is also a good source of info on the hex and octal codes for the
vga= option
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From: "pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: LILO with LIL- problem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:26:50 +0100
Add the "linear" parameter in lilo.cong file
Mark wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>you seem to have tried al;most every thing so I'll only add
>you may need to rerun /sbin/lilo on the offending computers after all
>changes or reinstall the kernal then re run lilo. Tiny differences in
>disk partitions can mangle lilo unless it is rerun.
>
>Mark
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:13:35 -0400, Andreas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>I am hoping that someone can help me with a problem I am
>>having with LILO. The particular situation I have is a lab
>>of identical computers that will have the capability to
>>dual boot Windows 2000 or Linux. Windows 2000 was installed
>>followed by Linux (Red Hat 6.2 using a kick start file).
>>After updating the kernel from 2.2.14-5.0 as found on the CD
>>to 2.2.16-3, identical /etc/lilo.conf files were copied to
>>each computer and /sbin/lilo was run. As described in the
>>NT OS Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO, the Linux boot sector from
>>one computer was copied to a floppy. This file was then
>>copied to all the computers and the Windows 2000 boot.ini
>>file was modified so that it would allow one to choose Linux.
>>This works fine on all but 2 of the 30 computers. The two
>>that don't work hang with a LIL- error after choosing Linux
>>from the Windows 2000 loader. (These systems, however, boot
>>fine with a rescue disk.)
>>
>>I have looked at the LILO documentation. The LILO User Guide
>>indicates this implies that the descriptor table is corrupt.
>>The LILO Technical Guide is a bit more detailed in saying that
>>the - indicates an incorrect checksum for the descriptor table.
>>
>>Can someone tell me what needs to be done to avoid the LIL-
>>error? (I have already tried reinstalling Linux and the boot
>>sector and the problem persists.) Also, am I `asking for
>>trouble' by using a boot sector from one computer on a large
>>number of other identical computers (i.e., am I lucky that 28
>>of 30 computers boot properly?)? Any help/ideas are greatly
>>appreciated!
>>
>>andreas
>>--
>>Andreas Fuchs
>>Penn State Erie
>>SEET, Prischak Bldg.
>>Station Road
>>Erie, PA 16563-1701
>>+1 814 898 6472 (voice)
>>+1 814 898 6125 (fax)
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (email)
>
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From: astorwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: File extensions
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:20:17 GMT
Hi,
Could someone please tell me how to make Linux [ I have Mandrake 7 ]
show FILE EXTENSIONS to all files when I use it ? I have WordPerfect8
for Linux and have files of different formats and I need to know what
is what when I go to the file manager in KDE.
Thank you.
William
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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding another IDE drive
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:41:37 GMT
In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007311815000.1022-100000
@localhost.localdomain>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> I require the following info ...
>
> .. Mount point for new drive.
> .. Do I need to re-install RH 6.1?
> .. Do I still need LILO?
> .. Which directories are better left on the 'old' disk.
>
> I have read 'Multi-disk HOW-TO' and not all the info I need is there, as
> it seems to deal with a new install.
>
> Any info appreciated.
>
your linuxsystem resides on multiple paritions. just type mount and you�ll
see something like this:
/dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
/dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda5 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /var type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda8 on /tmp type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /opt type ext2 (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
/dev/hdc2 on /mnt type ext2 (rw)
with df -h you can see how much space is still left on the partitions.
you can now move data from an old partition to a new partition by mounting
the new partition on a temporary mountpoint and copy all the data (use cp
with the -d -p -R options) and then change /etc/fstab from the old to the
new partition and then dont forget to delete the old content.
or you can mount your new partitions just into the filesystem.
example: /home is mounted on hda6 now. and you want to keep it, but move
/home/john to the new partition hdb8. Just copy the content of /home/john
and set a new mountpoint in fstab for /dev/hdb8 on /home/john
partitioning the new disk is done with fsdisk and then you have to create
a new filesystem with mke2fs (or mkreiserfs if you use reiserfs).
hope this helps
peter
--
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goldfisch.at
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Loop-Boot with Lilo and SCSI
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:43:27 GMT
I have an IDE Disk and a SCSI one and I try to install lilo on both
disk to have cross-boot label. I am using the 'other' entry in my
lilo.conf file but a can't get any working configuration. I can boot on
IDE alone or SCSI alone but a can't get lilo loop-boot on the other
disk.
Can any body give me any tips for it...
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From: "Frederik Tilkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for glibc 2.2 to get XFree86 4.x working
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:53:38 GMT
Anyone know where to find it?
Thanks,
Frederik Tilkin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 12:32:45 GMT
I think what our semiliterate friend meant to say was
edit the lilo.config and then rerun lilo as root.
Now while I'm not familiar with Mandrake itself, I
can say that most distributions allow you to do this
operation from within their install routines; SuSE
for example has a "modify boot configuration" panel
in its YaST routine. Mandrake presumably has the
equivalent. Otherwise, just edit the lilo.config
manually to set the default OS and the delay, then
post editing run lilo to load your modified
configuration. As always when fiddling with Linux's
boot configuration, make sure you have a
bootdisk ready so that in the unlikely event something
goes wrong and your system fails to boot with its
modification, you can boot your installed system from the
bootdisk and take a second stab at editing the lilo.config
Cheers,
--Kevin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Palmer wrote:
>Cap'n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I'll admit I'm somewhat of a newbie to Mandrake Linux,
>>and this is probably a stupid question...but, I need the
>>answer.
>>
>>I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on my system in a dual boot with
>>Win98. My hard drive is in four partitions:
>>
>>Partition 1: Win98 system files (1.5 GB) - hdc1
>>Partition 2: Win98 programs (8 GB) - hdc2
>>Partition 3: Linux Swap (133 MB) - hdc6
>>Partition 4: Linux Native: Mandrake Distro (2.3 GB) - hdc7
>>
>>After I installed Mandrake and LILO, Linux is the first
>>boot option and loads Mandrake after 10 seconds,
>>unless I type Windows. I want to set it up so that Windows
>>boots after 10 seconds, unless I type Linux.
>>
>>What's the easiest way to change this in Mandrake? Or
>>if someone could point me to a Mandrake HOWTO Web link
>>for this, I would appreciate it.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>*** The Cap'n ****
>
>Eddit a text fial and recompial kernal.
>
>
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From: Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:27:28 +0200
Hi all,
I've just grabbed the latest stable kernel version (i.e. 2.2.16). I've
configured (properly?), compiled, and installed it. It's running fine,
except for two annoying issues:
a) When booting up, depmod complains of undefined symbols in several
modules. I suppose it's due to a missing module-file, but how to
generate that file? I have set on the three options for "Loadable module
support", namely: "Enable loadable module support", "Set version
information in all symbols for modules", and "Kernel module loader".
Then make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install.
Finally, copy bzImage and System.map to /boot, adding entries to
lilo.conf, and executing lilo.
So can you tell me what am
I missing?
b) The second issue is a minor detail. When 'halt' is commanded,
everything is done all right except the last step, namely, actually
powering down the machine. I don't know why because the BIOS does
support the programmed power down and the previous kernel (2.2.14) did
power down the machine.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers!
Jos� Manuel
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Universidad de Granada Tel. +34 - 958 - 24 61 43
18071 - GRANADA (Spain) Fax: +34 - 958 - 24 33 17
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: File extensions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:08:39 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when astorwilliam would say:
>Could someone please tell me how to make Linux [ I have Mandrake 7 ]
>show FILE EXTENSIONS to all files when I use it ? I have WordPerfect8
>for Linux and have files of different formats and I need to know what
>is what when I go to the file manager in KDE.
No such thing.
Extensions are an artifact of systems like OS/360 and CP/M and
such.
Unix, on which Linux is based, has filenames.
If you think that there's some suffix at the end of the filenames
that you use to be vaguely suggestive of what format the file
_might_ use, well, it is common for "file managers" to have some
way of indicating pattern matching.
You might enter something like "*.html" to match all the HTML files,
for instance.
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