Linux-Misc Digest #351, Volume #21               Tue, 10 Aug 99 12:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Restricted shell available? (Jon Skeet)
  Re: Red Hat Cable Modem (Mediaone) Probs ("Pat Duczyminski")
  Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS? (Donal K. Fellows)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: vesafb:  Frame Buffer consoles (Marcus Barkowsky)
  Re: Gateway ISP - no DNS IP's ?!? (John M Dow)
  Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way? (Jordan)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Richard Kulisz)
  Can I use DISK DRUID after install . . . ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: need help with kppp and floppies PLEASE (Harri Porten)
  Re: forwarding email. (tiffman)
  Re: mySQL vs mSQL (Carfield Yim)
  Re: lower to upper case? (Jon Skeet)
  Re: Have you heard? (Helmuth Neuberger)
  Re: lower to upper case? ("Art S. Kagel")
  Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (De Messemaeker Johan)
  Re: BSD memory tuning parameters on Linux (Jon Skeet)
  Re: lower to upper case? (toby)
  Re: New release of PStill ("Stefan Gsell")
  Re: Restricted shell available? (Jon Skeet)
  Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way? (Robin Smith)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Restricted shell available?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:10:59 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, but unfortunatelly rbash is not close to what I'm
> looking for. rbash disables important stuff on one side (e.g. cd ~/subdir)
> but on the other side the whole root is accessible. But I need to hide the
> root and the other users from each other, grrr.
> 
> The commercial Unix's have approprite solutions available (Solaris, HP-UX) -
> I really would be supprised if not one of these is available on Linux!

Perhaps a mixture of chroot and rbash? You'll probably need to be careful 
to make sure that appropriate files are available, however.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: "Pat Duczyminski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Cable Modem (Mediaone) Probs
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:15:42 -0400

I'm not sure if I figured ot the problme or not, but it is working now.  I
replaced my 10base-T 3c509 card which worked only in windows with a
3c905B-TX 10/100 NIC and re-installed Linux(Mandrake) and it found he card
with no problem and connected to the cable modem without a problem in DHCP.
I just had to call Mediaone and give them the new MAC address so they could
authorize the card.

It's finally over.  I have been working on this forever and it's
over...Finally.

Doug O'Leary wrote in message ...
>[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.misc and a copy was sent to
>the cited author.]
>
>Hi;
>
>I've recently won this battle between Linux and Redhat 6.0.  It was long
>and protracted, but I won it!
>
>There are a couple of things that you should check.
>
>1. As you state in another follow up, you'll need to eliminate the
>PnP mode on the 3c509.  I7 had to download the drivers from 3com's web
>site and, once the PnP mode was eliminated, I also had to reintroduce the
>NIC to Windows.  That all went pretty much as expected.
>
>2. The next thing you need to do is identify which irq and base I/O
>address your nic is using.  Mine was using irq 9 and base I/O of 0x210.
>You can identify these settings from the Windows Control Panel, click on
>System->devices->Network->3c509->properties.
>
>3. Boot into Linux.  Execute "ifconfig eth0".  If it doesn't show
>anything, execute "insmod 3c509".  That will load the device driver
>module for that card.  Reexecute "ifconfig eth0".  If you still don't see
>anything, you'll have to rebuild your kernel.  Pretty explicit directions
>for that can be found in the HOWTOs which should have been loaded to your
>/usr/doc/HOWTO directory.
>
>4. Presupposing that Linux sees your card, look at the bottom of the
>output of the infconfig command and check what it says is the irq and
>base I/O address.  If they're not the same, edit the /etc/conf.modules
>file thusly:
>
>alias eth0 3c509
>options 3c509 io=0x210 irq=12
>
>Obviously, you'll need to put whatever the correct irq and base i/o
>address for your card.
>
>5. Reboot your system and check the card again.  You can check if the
>module is loaded via the lsmod comand.
>
>6. Presupposing, you've made it this far, your card is now out of PnP
>mode and Linux is correctly configure to talk to it.  The next step is to
>run either pump or dhcpcp.  Both will require the use of a -h option with
>a hostname.  I've heard alternate suggestions of whatever you want your
>host to be named as or what your email account is.  I don't think that
>matters, but realize that it's supposed to be in caps.  For example:
>
>pump -i eth0 -h DOUG
>
>is what I use.
>
>7. My bet is that your first couple of attempts at that are going to
>fail.  I've tried just about every version of dhcpcd that I could get my
>hands on and none of them worked.  What finally did work is the version
>of pump that is hiding on Redhat's errata site.  Download that and stash
>it in a directory that you can see from Linux.  If you have the Mandrake
>version of Redhat Linux, you'll have to uninstall pump via the rpm
>command and install the one that you downloaded.  Apparently, Mandrake's
>version of pump is later than the one on Redhat's; however, Mandrake's
>doesn't work with Mediaone's DHCP server.  Go figure.
>
>Long winded, I know, but it was a long battle to get this thing working.
>I'd appreciate hearing if these steps worked for you.  If so, maybe we
>can get them stashed into a FAQ somewhere or on one of those cable modem
>HOWTOs.
>
>HTH...
>
>Doug
>--
>==============
>Douglas K. O'Leary
>Senior System Admin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>==============



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS?
Date: 10 Aug 1999 13:32:45 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Donn Miller  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone suggested that the temperature of the CPU increases as
> the CPU usage increases.  By his reasoning, the larger the idle
> time, the cooler the CPU will be.  How true is this?

This is definitely true for virtually all CPUs currently in use[*] and
is particularly the case in CPUs in use in the embedded market, where
often the amount of power available is restricted.  Most low-power
embedded chips spend a significant amount of effort on working out
when to progressively ramp down the clock into idle mode (a problem,
since it can take quite a long time to start the clock up again.)
More sophisticated technologies don't have this problem, and can shut
down and start up at will (see http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/amulet/ for
more details, and links to other work in this area.)

Donal (who's developing design tools for the next generation or two of
       these guys' work when he's not reading c.o.l.a...)
[* I've heard of a few that have been manufactured using other
   transistor technologies, but they are always *staggering* power
   guzzlers - they require their own plumbing.  Fast though... ]
-- 
Donal K. Fellows    http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
   be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
   borders.  -- David Parsons  <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 10 Aug 1999 13:49:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Who says that anything gets resources because it just "deserves"
>them? That's paying for _needs_, not _effects_. Hint: if you pay for 
>something, you get more of it. The system worked as long as 
>there were more people paying for it than people who used it.
>S.s., healthcare and other nationalized enteprises basically are a
>ponzi scheme. Eventually, it _has_ to fail. We're seeing it now.

<rolleyes> Nobody ever argued that health care was free. Taxpayers
or citizens pay for it in one way or the other. Of course, it /does/
fail if the taxpayers cease paying for it. But that's so bloody
fucking obvious, it's utterly irrelevant.

The advantage of a nationalized health care system is the elimination
of bureaucracy, elimination of competition and redundancy, elimination
of much profiteering by corporations, doctors and hospitals. This is
why a nationalized scheme *MUST* be cheaper. And that's why it is.

>>They are now busy doing the same damn thing to the
>>education system. 
>
>I'd attribute that rather to the fact that it _can't_ work 
>as expected in the long run.

Only because you expect it to work on no money whatsoever.

>>      This goes beyond a shame, its a national disgrace. 
>
>There's nothing to be ashamed about really; if it were just 
>British, you could say things like that. But this kind of "solution"
>fails _everywhere_. It just can't work. Not in UK, nor anywhere 
>else really.

And where the hell is "everywhere"? The UK, US, Canada, Australia
and New Zealand? All the fucked up right-wing anglo-american nations!!

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From: Marcus Barkowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: vesafb:  Frame Buffer consoles
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:06:23 +0200

I had the same problem. There are two possible ways to get rid of it:
1) Change the framebuffer timings to those on your X-Window-System
   (you should get the fbset utility and change the clock-frequency
    and the resolution)
2) Make the kernel believe that there is another mode on console7
   when your X runs on that console
   You need to do two changes:
   a) in linux/drivers/video/fbmem.c
       function set_all_vcs
        change: for( unit = 0; unit < 6; unit ++)
   b) use fbset -a some_mode
      to change the mode for the first six consoles.

   I do not know how to change the settings for a non-active console
   so this is my workaround. Otherwise you could simply change the
   mode for your text consoles to some other than the X-console uses.
   When you switch between them, the kernel detects the change and
   reinitializes your graphic card. The X-Window does not tell the
   kernel about the new (high-resolution) settings so the kernel still
   believes that the original configuration is running on that console.

Hope that helps!
-- 

Marcus Barkowsky
Fraunhofer-Institut IIS-A ADTM/Studio-Video
Tel: +49 9131 776-339
Fax: +49 9131 776-399
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: John M Dow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gateway ISP - no DNS IP's ?!?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:26:28 +0100

William Wueppelmann wrote:
> >I just got off the phone with Gateway.net (the ISP side) trying to get
> >an DNS IP address so that I can fill in the blanks in my resolv.conf
> >file. What frustration!

bash$ nslookup -type=NS gateway.net
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
gateway.net     nameserver = DNS2.GATEWAY.COM
gateway.net     nameserver = DNS1.GATEWAY.COM

Authoritative answers can be found from:
DNS2.GATEWAY.COM        internet address = 63.66.78.35
DNS1.GATEWAY.COM        internet address = 63.66.78.33

regards,

J

-- 
John Dow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dow Carter Ltd, Edinburgh, Scotland
http://www.dowcarter.com
                           Let It Run.

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From: Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:00:59 -0400

Where can i find pbm?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:03:24 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hobbyist � <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 09 Aug 1999 23:05:24 -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote these
>sagacious words :
>: yes, but i cannot choose my employer based on what computer system i
>: get.  they *all* want me to use microsoft windows.
>
>That's because Windows is the dominant OS.

And you don't think MS deliberately and consciously set out to
dominate the PC OS market? William Gates III said as much!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can I use DISK DRUID after install . . .
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:09:42 GMT

How do I use Disk Druid after installation??

I want to add a new hard drive to my existing install and I don't see
how to do it on fdisk.



Thanks!


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From: Harri Porten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help with kppp and floppies PLEASE
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:14:36 GMT

In article <kWEr3.183$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Jonathan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I need some assistance with kppp. I set my connections up using
linuxconf.
> Kppp will dial the modem (Creative Labs Modem Blaster) and start to
log in,
> but in the end it reports:
>
> "Error
>     Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!"

Try this:

a) change the Line Termination setting to CR.
b) change the speed of the serial port on the Device tab

Harri.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tiffman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: forwarding email.
Date: 9 Aug 1999 21:05:22 GMT

Make a .forward file resembling this:

\localname, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Be sure to use the correct slash, and leave no blank lines (especially at the
bottom of the file) and you should be OK.  Also, don't fully qualify your
localname (i.e. just localname, not [EMAIL PROTECTED]) because it may
choke on that.  You can forward to as many addresses as you want; just
separate with commas as above.

Jordan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have got another question for y'all,
:         I've made a .forward file before just containg an email address
: to have sendmail forward all mail to that new address. Is there a way to
: forward a copy of all email to address and still have it appear in my
: inbox on the original system?
:                             --jordan


--
Michael Tiffany      CS/DMATH Major     Georgia Institute of Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED]       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte728h

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From: Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mySQL vs mSQL
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:33:26 +0800

thanks for reply!

Jeff wrote:

> In article <7oo4jp$h0n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, It seen that MySQL provide better manual and feather, but can you
> > tell more about the function?
> > More, is it really that mSQL is no more advantage over mySQL other than
> > "mini"?
> >
>
> MySQL handles multiple requests a lot better than mSQL.  The mSQL
> daemon handles the serially, one at a time.  If you have a lot of requests
> waiting, things can get pretty slow.
>
> Furthermore, the MySQL engine is blisteringly fast on large databases.
> If you have a database of just a few records, the differences are going to
> be purely academic.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: lower to upper case?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:00:50 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In bash, tcsh, or csh, is there a way -- be it a builtin, a utility, or
> some way of writing a script -- to take an arbitrary string input and
> turn it into a string whose letters are all upper case?  I know this can
> be done in zsh, but I don't have access to it.  Thanks for your help.

I believe "tr" should be available:

$ echo hello | tr [a-z] [A-Z] 
HELLO

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: Helmuth Neuberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.sex.fetish.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.security,esp.comp.so.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:54:07 +0200

I never found the server online ! Is it a bad joke from bill ?

Nathan Neal schrieb:

> Microsoft challenges hackers to break into Windows 2000
>
> In a controversial move, Microsoft Corporation has made one of its Windows
> 2000 Servers on the Internet available to hackers, inviting people to
> attempt to break in. The goal: To make Windows 2000 as industrial strength
> as possible. The company says it is looking for any "magic bullet" attacks
> that can kill it, and has asked hackers to follow some simple rules so that
> they can determine the validity of any attacks. Since the server went online
> Tuesday morning, it has yet to be hacked.
>
> Feel you've got the right stuff?  Head on over to
> http://www.windows2000test.com and find out.
>
> Note: At the time of this writing, the server was unavailable, but its
> expected to be back up soon.

Helmuth Neuberger

email   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
net   http://www.n-h.net

=============================================
Linux - The choice of the GNU generation
Open Minds. Open Sources. Open Future.
=============================================



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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lower to upper case?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:59:33 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

scable wrote:
> 
> In bash, tcsh, or csh, is there a way -- be it a builtin, a utility, or
> some way of writing a script -- to take an arbitrary string input and
> turn it into a string whose letters are all upper case?  I know this can
> be done in zsh, but I don't have access to it.  Thanks for your help.

echo "Some Arbitrary String" | tr "[a-z]" "[A-Z]"

Art S. Kagel

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From: De Messemaeker Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:56:34 +0200

Richard Kulisz wrote:
> 
> You fucker; I'm *not* in a western democracy! I'm in a capitalist
> nation and that logically precludes democracy. No sane /or/ serious
> political scientist would call any American nation democratic.

This reminds me of a little story of Godel, a very famous mathematician.
He wanted to work (and so live) in the US and he wanted to become a
US-citizen. So, he did the test that comes along with that and he makes
the statement : 'it's perfectly legal to be a dictator here in the US'.
Nearly costed him his citizenship (some interference of the university
was needed) ... and he was right to. Democracy is a lie ...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: BSD memory tuning parameters on Linux
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:43:11 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Solaris I could control the performance of virtual memory
> subsystem with parameters like minfree and desfree and I could define
> priorities and timeslices with the dispadmin tool. 
> Does those memory variables exist on Linux and if they do,
> where can I find more info about them? A pointer to article or a 
> book would be fine.

Try investigating /proc/sys/vm

The documentation in /usr/src/linux/Documentation should help you work 
out what's what.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lower to upper case?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:03:44 -0400



scable wrote:

> In bash, tcsh, or csh, is there a way -- be it a builtin, a utility, or
> some way of writing a script -- to take an arbitrary string input and
> turn it into a string whose letters are all upper case?  I know this can
> be done in zsh, but I don't have access to it.  Thanks for your help.

#/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;

my $str;

foreach $str (@ARGV) {

$str = uc $str;
print $str . "\n";

}

VERY simply in perl.

shell>perl ucase blah

BLAH

shell>perl ucase blah and more blah

BLAH
AND
MORE
BLAH



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From: "Stefan Gsell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.text.pdf
Subject: Re: New release of PStill
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:18:13 +0200

Can PStill interpret PostScript level 2 code?


Frank M. Siegert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'd like to announce the availability of a new version of PStill - my
> PostScript to PDF converter program. The release 1.20 features a number
> of enhancements in the field of compatibility and unifies the engine with
> the Windows version.
>
> PStill 1.20 is currently available for Linux/Intel, Solaris/Sparc and
> IRIX 6.x/MIPS and can be downloaded from
>
> http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html
>
> Also available on the page is the current Windows release 1.06 which is
> based on the same engine as the new *NIX versions, the fully supported
> Mac OS X program, the NeXTSTEP/OpenStep releases and older versions for
> FreeBSD and HPUX. PStill 1.20 too will be ported to FreeBSDm HPUX and
> BeOS.
>
> New usage policies: Starting with version 1.20 all UNIX command line
> versions except the Mac OS X release may be used freely for private and
> educational purposes - this includes converting your student or research
> work to PDF. Commercial users of the free version still must register.
>
> I would like to hear from you should you find it useful or find an error
> or shortcoming.
>
> Frank Siegert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Restricted shell available?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:45:24 +0100

I wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply, but unfortunatelly rbash is not close to what I'm
> > looking for. rbash disables important stuff on one side (e.g. cd ~/subdir)
> > but on the other side the whole root is accessible. But I need to hide the
> > root and the other users from each other, grrr.
> > 
> > The commercial Unix's have approprite solutions available (Solaris, HP-UX) -
> > I really would be supprised if not one of these is available on Linux!
> 
> Perhaps a mixture of chroot and rbash? You'll probably need to be careful 
> to make sure that appropriate files are available, however.

That last sentence was far from clear, I'm afraid. I haven't investigated 
chroot, but if it really stops you from seeing *anything* below the "new" 
root, you'll need to have a /bin, /lib etc underneath each root, which 
may be impractical.

Sorry for the confusing post earlier.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way?
Date: 10 Aug 1999 16:05:50 +0100

Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Where can i find pbm?

The package is normally called pbmplus, first check your Linux box for it !

as root

find / -name 'pbm*' -type f -print

If nothing comes back e.g. no pbmcrop etc

Then you will probably find it at http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk follow the
links to the SunSite archive.

Or why not try http://ftpsearch.lycos.com enter pbmplus and have a look

Or as I've said earlier today http://www.freshmeat.net enter pbmplus
and again hey presto.

All of these quick searches found what I was looking for although
freshmeat gave me NetPBM which seems to be an addition to pbmplus

Robin

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