Linux-Misc Digest #448, Volume #21 Wed, 18 Aug 99 12:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs... (Rod Smith)
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Delaying eth0 initialization!!! (Jayan M)
Sendmail problems (Paul Jimbo Duncan G7KES)
Re: Any free SQL server available? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Caldera -> RH? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SETI and fcntl ("Ted Pavlic")
Re: /dev/linux (Waldemar Kocjan)
Re: Oracle 8i for Linux (Doug DeJulio)
Re: Any free SQL server available? (Doug DeJulio)
Re: Cracks for Linux? that's unfortunate ("Abhishek Srivastava")
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Ottavio G. Rizzo)
Re: Linux file-size limit? ("Ted Pavlic")
Re: Oracle 8i for Linux (Hwei Sheng TEOH)
SETI and fcntl (Philippe Dosch)
Re: Can Linux and NT talk? ("Ted Pavlic")
Re: Any free SQL server available? (Doug DeJulio)
Re: Any free SQL server available? (Doug DeJulio)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs...
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:42:53 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <YdyFBheS0Q37-pn2-zrF3ddmxS1fp@localhost>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zephyr Q) writes:
>
> I've been using OS/2 for years, and am switching to Linux
> (don't ask why yet, that is a different post). In the past,
> I have been **very** happy with the rock solid performance
> of HPFS and, seeing several comments about problems with
> Linux's file system (especially with power outages, etc.),
> am curious about the following:
In my experience, HPFS and ext2fs are about equally stable. I have lost
data to both on power outages, but that's a *VERY* rare occurrence with
both systems.
> Is it possible to *use* the HPFS with any amount of success
> with Linux (I know I can download a driver to read/write,
> but is it reliable?)?
I've seen a read/write patch for HPFS, but never tried it. My own
inclination would be to distrust it because the read/write support is so
new. Also, Linux requires certain features in its filesystems that HPFS
doesn't provide. Now, the readme to the Linux read/write HPFS driver did
say something about using HPFS EAs to store at least some of this
information, so it might be possible to use HPFS for general-purpose
Linux work, but I'd be reluctant to trust this, at least for the root
partition, where you've got absolutely critical stuff like device files
(in the /dev directory). If anything caused loss of EAs on device files
stored on HPFS, you'd be in sad shape. I'd be more inclined to create an
HPFS /home directory, since the system doesn't rely on files there to
function. That's also the stuff you're most likely to want to share with
OS/2.
> How does Linux's security at this level compare with HPFS
> (i.e.--if I get a hard drive from a stranger with ext2fs on
> it, and I wipe it, is the info unrecoverable by experts? I
> know it sounds like a strange question, but I occasionally
> find HDs at auctions and clearing houses and like to be able
> to know I can clean them...)?
This is more a matter of the physics of hard disks than of filesystems,
I'd think. It's also not clear to me why you'd care -- why does it matter
that you not be able to recover some stranger's data on a used drive?
You're not likely to want to try, after all. Now, if you want to wipe
data before SELLING a drive, that's more understandable. If I were
concerned about this, I'd probably write a program to write random data
over the entire drive several times in a row. Filesystem would then be
irrelevant.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 18 Aug 1999 13:45:13 GMT
Rory C-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>2) Why did RMS decide to develop a Unix-type system if he came
> from LISP?
>
>3) Why did RMS work on Emacs and GCC before the GNU operating
> system - presumably he was developing for Unix?
These questions are partially answered in the GNU manifesto and the History
of the GNU Project; see http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/philosophy.html .
> A related
> question: Did Linus Torvalds first develop Linux using Unix?
What's your definition of Unix? Linus was working with Minix
(http://www.minix.org/) at the time; see
http://www.kde.org/food/linux_is_obsolete.html .
>5) Is the GNU Hurd operating system now 'viable'?
How do you define 'viable'? People are working on a distribution around the
Hurd now (http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/), so it may start attracting
more people, although there do not seem to be many developers involved in
the Hurd kernel development itself.
> Why did it take so long to produce?
The initial focus of the GNU project was on free tools, so that a free
kernel could be developed later on. By the time the free tools were of
sufficiently high quality, there were quite a few free and freeish kernel
alternatives which worked fine.
>6) What is the difference between GNU and the FSF?
My perception: GNU is the project, FSF is the legal entity that mainly
supports the project.
>7) The development of the free source movement since GNU appears
> to have been helped by a standardisation on the C language,
> promoted by the GCC compiler. Is this assertion true,
> notwithstanding the developments since of Python, Perl etc.?
I'm not sure how much the standardisation has been an influence. The
availability of gcc as a high-quality, multi-platform compiler has been
quite important (both as a tool and as an excellent example of the free
software concept). It contributed to having a large pool of potential
developers of free C code. Perl and I believe Python too are written in C;
they have profited from the availability of gcc.
> Are there important stories connected to Fortran or Lisp or any other
> languages that I need to look at?
There is still a strong Lisp/Scheme influence on several parts of the GNU
project, e.g. emacs and guile.
HTH,
Ray
--
PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose
between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would
have the decency to betray his country.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
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Crossposted-To:
comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,fj.net.media.ethernet,comp.os.linux.ansers,comp.os.linux.hardawe,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delaying eth0 initialization!!!
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:39:44 GMT
AFAIK, there is nothing wrong with this, so you don't have to disable
it.. Make sure that the modules for your ethernet card is loaded (if it's
a laptop you're talking about that uses pcmcia, those modules too),
that'll initialize eth0 and activate the network.
Try lsmod to see the loaded modules, and load the required ones
using insmod or modprobe.
Then try ifup eth0
Jayan
Vilmos Soti wrote:
> Kevin Wong wrote:
> >
> > When I start up RedHat Linux 6.0!~
> > and When "Bring up eth0"
> > It said:
> > "Delaying eth0 initialization"
> >
> > and when I type "ifup eth0"
> >
> > It also said:
> > "Delaying eth0 initialization"
> >
> > How to fix this problem?
> > THANK YOU FOR REPLY!
>
> Do you have the appropriate driver available either compiled into the
> kernel or as a module? If yes, is it setup correctly regarding the I/O
> and IRQ?
>
> Vilmos
>
> --
> Looking for a job in British Columbia.
> Have you recompiled your kernel today?
> Linus? Jesus Christ Superstar
> Bill? Clueless in Seattle
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:10:20 +0000
From: Paul Jimbo Duncan G7KES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sendmail problems
Hello,
I've just changed over from SlackWare 3.5 to SlackWare 4.0. The install
went okay and most thing seem to be working okay. However, I do have a
problem with
mail. Incoming mail is being picked up by sendmail, but instead of
actually
sending the incoming mail to the correct local user, it is queuing it. I
found
this out from /var/adm/messages where it normally says something like
"stat=sent", it says "stat=queued" instead, and it all ends up in
/var/spool/mqueue. I'm using the same sendmail.cf and sendmail.cw files
as I
was in the previous release, so I thought everything would run the
same...
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks!
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:17:15 -0400
"WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Not too mention the fact that PostgreSQL is more full-featured, supporting
> a
> > whole bunch of goodies that MySQL doesn't (like transactions). It is also
Last time I look at both PostgreSQL and MySQL, it was the opposite.
See http://www.tcx.se/crash-me.html
Its a big chart and will take sometime to load but compares all the
databases, not just the free ones.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Caldera -> RH?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:39:16 GMT
Hi!
Had previously setup an OpenLinux 1.2 on a Pentium in a LAN setting;
things were running & I got my feet wet w/LINUX. Unfortunately had to
give up that PC.
Now, got some 486 boxes that came into retirement & was wondering of
setting it up to further explore what I can do with LINUX box in a
network environment.
I know this is all subjective but is it still worth upgrading to
OpenLinux 2.2 or should I start with Red Hat 6? This 486 was a server
box prior so it has SCSI & such. I liked the idea of OpenLinux 1.2
earlier b/c of it's netware client. Now with netware being able to go
IP I'm wondering if that's much of a pull ...
TIA.
R.
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From: "Ted Pavlic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SETI and fcntl
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:08:18 -0400
Hm... Sounds like it probably has to do with the exclusive BSD file locking
in the new 2.1.x (2.2.x) kernels... Try recompiling SETI with the newest
libraries (the old libraries still use the old flock emulation... emulating
flock with fcntl) -- take a look at:
linux/Documentation/locks.txt
>From the Linux 2.2.x distributions. I think that might straighten things out
a little bit more for you.
This is a real kicker -- the Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions use the
old flock emulation. Kinda funny, huh? Ready-to-Run software isn't allowed
to recompile with the new libraries until MS specifically says that they
support RedHat 6.0. (Which they have not done yet) So I've got a whole
RedHat 6.0 ISP family of machines sitting idle waiting to replace my old
RedHat 5.2 ISP group and all I'm waiting for is Microsoft to tell RTR that
they're allowed to simply recompile with the newest libraries. (I mount my
webroot as well as my http configuration files via NFS on all my web
servers)
I was also very distressed to find locking problems with RedHat 6.0
packages. I would imagine that the packages distributed with RedHat 6.0
would have been compiled with the newest RH6.0 libraries... apparently not.
I had to recompile a few (example: elm -- my mail spool is NFS mounted as
well) to get the locking to work.
Oh well...
Best of luck --
Ted
Philippe Dosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I'm in trouble with SETI, and I think I have a problem of
> configuration with linux. I have 2 PC nearly similar (with the same
> CPU), all of them under linux 2.2.9 (but with different kernels).
>
> Whenever I run SETI on the first PC within a initially empty
> directory, no problem, the process is running. Whenever I run it on
> the second PC, I've got the following message:
>
> > Another instance of SETI@home is running in this directory.
> > Each instance of SETI@home must run in a separate directory.
>
> But this is not the case! I've searched (news, dejanews), and no
> solution! I've traced the system calls, and I think the problem comes
> from fcntl. Here's the trace obtained on the first PC:
>
> > ...
> > getpid() = 31025
> > open("lock.txt", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0644) = 3
> > fcntl(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_CUR, start=0, len=1}) = 0
> > ...
>
> And here on the second PC:
>
> > ...
> > getpid() = 2484
> > open("lock.txt", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0644) = 3
> > fcntl(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_CUR, start=0, len=1}) =
> > -1 ENOLCK (No locks available)
> > ...
>
> So I can't define a lock on the file "lock.txt" in the second
> case. By searching in the fcntl documentation, I've found:
>
> > F_SETLK
> > The lock is set (when l_type is F_RDLCK or F_WRLCK) or cleared (when
> > it is F_UNLCK). If the lock is held by someone else, this call
> > returns -1 and sets errno to EACCES or EAGAIN.
>
> I attempt to launch SETI in an empty directory, I'm the same user on
> both computers, the directory is the same (via NFS), and then I don't
> understand what is the detail of configuration between these computers
> which prevent to use fcntl on the second computer. Some ideas?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> --
> Philippe
> http://www.loria.fr/isa
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From: Waldemar Kocjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev/linux
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:43:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would really aprecciate if you could mail me this program.
W.
juergen leeb wrote:
> Waldemar Kocjan wrote:
>
> > I've got on my computer one partion running Windows98 and one running
> > RH6. It's not a problem to access files on Win partition from Linux but
> > I would like to make it to work also other way around : access files on
> > Linux partion from Windows98. Anyone got an idea how to do it ???
> >
> > W.
>
> it is possible to access the linux filesystem with win95 or 98.
> at home i have a cdrom (came with a magazin) on which is such a programm.
>
> if you want to have it easy contact me.
> and i will send it to you via email.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i for Linux
Date: 18 Aug 1999 10:45:12 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hwei Sheng TEOH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sqlplus: error in loading shared libraries:
> /mnt/2/oracle/base/home/lib/libclntsh.so.8.0: undefined symbol: nauzaoss
>
>What am I doing wrong??
Well, my RedHat 6.0 system doesn't seem to define that symbol in any
library I can find.
So, I'm guessing that Oracle8i includes shared libraries, and the
Oracle installer knows how to add them to the LD load path on a RedHat
system, but doesn't know how to do so on a non-RedHat system.
Look for various ".so" files that were created as part of the Oracle
install, and add them to "/etc/ld.so.conf" and re-run "ldconfig". If
that fixes the problem, then it looks like my guess was right.
--
Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:48:09 -0400
In article <7pbg46$6sm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[comp.os.linux.misc - Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:43:40 -0400] * WME wrote *
>> Is there any free SQL server available for commercial use?
>
>There is PostgreSQL, which is free for commercial use, and mySQL, I believe
>was recently GPLed, so that's free for commercial use also.
The "documentation" and "news" links on "http://www.tcx.se/" (which I
believe is the home of MySQL) don't mention this. If it's true, it's
great news. Got any references?
MySQL and PostgreSQL have very different capabilities and
philosophies. There are reasons to use both, in different contexts.
They cater to different needs. However, they're both SQL dialects,
and I believe they both have ODBC drivers.
If both are really free now, that's wonderful -- you can chose *not*
based on criteria like "I need SQL syntax" or "I need ODBC" or "I need
Perl/TCL/Python/Java/PHP3 integration", or "I need 'free for
commercial use'" (if in fact both have all of these -- need to verify
the GPL comment), but instead on criteria like "I need transactional
support" (pgsql) or "I need an object-relational model" (pgsql) or "I
don't need those but I do need high performance in a smaller memory
footprint" (MySQL).
--
Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
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From: "Abhishek Srivastava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Cracks for Linux? that's unfortunate
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:33:28 +0530
Asking for Crack software for linux is Stupid !!
when u get *almost* all things for free. To pay
USD 20 for such a wonderfull system should hurt at all.
The linux community should support the organizations that make
Linux software.
Abhishek.
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_/ Hewlett Packard ISO
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_/ _/ _/ _/ (Work) +91-80-2251554 x1190
_/ _/ _/_/_/ (Ip) 15.10.47.37
_/ (Url) http://sites.netscape.net/abhishes/homepage
_/ There's a difference between knowing the path and
walking on it.
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Bryan <Bryan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:JSpu3.779$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> $20 is nothing. you're getting a whole o/s, a windowing system, etc,
> etc, for free. so what are you complaining about?
>
> if you want the kind of features that OSS provides, you should pay for it.
>
> else, use what exists for free or ..
>
> ... WRITE YOUR OWN DAMNED SOFTWARE, DAMMIT!
>
> [...damned windowz freaks piss me off. grrr!]
>
>
> In comp.os.linux.development.apps Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> : Hi I think free software is the best. Especially Open Source Software.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ottavio G. Rizzo)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 18 Aug 1999 17:17:54 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
> Note that neither Python and Perl use the GNU License, the GPL...
Perl is licenced either under the GPL or under the "Artistic" license,
at your choice.
Ottavio
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From: "Ted Pavlic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux file-size limit?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:36:40 -0400
I really should read the rest of the thread because I'm sure someone has
already explained this.
On a 32-bit file system, the biggest file you can have is 2^31 bytes.
(2147483648 bytes) That's the largest number that the file system can
address. This limitation isn't specific to ext2. It's the same with any
other 32-bit file system. (NTFS, for example) There's no getting around
it... until you have a 64-bit file system. :)
I apologize if someone already has mentioned this and now I'm just wasting
time.
All the best --
Ted
Carlos Collazo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm trying to backup a 5Gig ext2 partition onto another ext2 partition
> on another hard drive. No matter which software I use, BRU, taper, tar,
> TkZip, etc., I get the same outcome--when the growing archive file
> reaches 2147482624 bytes it stops! The smarter backup software such as
> BRU says to (insert the next volume). When I use tar in the following
> manner:
>
> tar cvZX /root/tarexclude.lst -f /mnt/sdc1/rhonibmide.tar.Z .
>
> I get "write error onstdout file too long, broken pipe"
>
> Info / Observations:
>
> 1. I do not have quotas enabled.
>
> 2. I'm running as root.
>
> 3. It is not related to the compression utilities, since it also occurs
> without compression enabled.
>
> 4. Running RedHat 5.2. I also own several other distributions if this
> is the problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Is there a limit to the file size hardcoded in the kernel?
>
> 2. What do I have to recompile in order to solve this or get around it?
>
>
> Help!!!
>
> --
> /*Carlos */
>
> /*********************************************************************/
> Cognito ergo spud -- I think therefore I YAM?
> Carlos Collazo Consulting 1-800-690-6849
> /*********************************************************************/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hwei Sheng TEOH)
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i for Linux
Date: 18 Aug 99 15:14:44 GMT
On 18 Aug 1999, Doug DeJulio wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Hwei Sheng TEOH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >sqlplus: error in loading shared libraries:
> > /mnt/2/oracle/base/home/lib/libclntsh.so.8.0: undefined symbol: nauzaoss
> >
> >What am I doing wrong??
>
> Well, my RedHat 6.0 system doesn't seem to define that symbol in any
> library I can find.
>
> So, I'm guessing that Oracle8i includes shared libraries, and the
> Oracle installer knows how to add them to the LD load path on a RedHat
> system, but doesn't know how to do so on a non-RedHat system.
>
> Look for various ".so" files that were created as part of the Oracle
> install, and add them to "/etc/ld.so.conf" and re-run "ldconfig". If
> that fixes the problem, then it looks like my guess was right.
[snip]
Hmm, I still have the same problem, after added my Oracle lib/ directory to
/etc/ld.so.conf. However, I noticed that some of the library files there seems
to have size 0??? Could this be an installation problem then?
Also, 'nm' complains that some .so files have no symbols... is there a way to
check whether the library files are correctly installed? (other than
reinstalling the whole thing, which I loathe to do because the Java installer
hogs so much system resource).
T
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From: Philippe Dosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SETI and fcntl
Date: 18 Aug 1999 15:18:39 +0200
Hello,
I'm in trouble with SETI, and I think I have a problem of
configuration with linux. I have 2 PC nearly similar (with the same
CPU), all of them under linux 2.2.9 (but with different kernels).
Whenever I run SETI on the first PC within a initially empty
directory, no problem, the process is running. Whenever I run it on
the second PC, I've got the following message:
> Another instance of SETI@home is running in this directory.
> Each instance of SETI@home must run in a separate directory.
But this is not the case! I've searched (news, dejanews), and no
solution! I've traced the system calls, and I think the problem comes
from fcntl. Here's the trace obtained on the first PC:
> ...
> getpid() = 31025
> open("lock.txt", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0644) = 3
> fcntl(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_CUR, start=0, len=1}) = 0
> ...
And here on the second PC:
> ...
> getpid() = 2484
> open("lock.txt", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0644) = 3
> fcntl(3, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_CUR, start=0, len=1}) =
> -1 ENOLCK (No locks available)
> ...
So I can't define a lock on the file "lock.txt" in the second
case. By searching in the fcntl documentation, I've found:
> F_SETLK
> The lock is set (when l_type is F_RDLCK or F_WRLCK) or cleared (when
> it is F_UNLCK). If the lock is held by someone else, this call
> returns -1 and sets errno to EACCES or EAGAIN.
I attempt to launch SETI in an empty directory, I'm the same user on
both computers, the directory is the same (via NFS), and then I don't
understand what is the detail of configuration between these computers
which prevent to use fcntl on the second computer. Some ideas?
Thanks a lot,
--
Philippe
http://www.loria.fr/isa
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From: "Ted Pavlic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Linux and NT talk?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:51:32 -0400
Linux does not need to be an NT domain controller. It can be like any other
SMBfs machine.
You can use Samba in various ways:
*) use smbd and nmbd to export SMBfs shares
*) use smbclient to logon to remote SMBfs servers (VERY similar to FTP)
*) use smbmount to actually MOUNT remote SMBfs shares
You'll find that SMBfs is a lot like a Microsoft attempt at NFS.
Speaking of NFS -- that's another route. If you can get one of the many NT
programs that supports NFS, you'll be able to mount remote NFS shares on
your NT machine. If you find an NT program that exports NFS, you'll be able
to do the opposite.
NOTE: There are issues with Samba and NT/Windows98 and plain text passwords.
If you find that you cannot authenticate correctly when logging into your
Linux Samba server, be sure to either change your NT machine to use plain
text passwords (There's a registry entry that comes with the Samba
distribution that will do this -- be sure to reboot after you install it) or
utilize an smbpasswd file on your Linux machine. (This means you'll have to
maintain TWO password files) I know there is documentation in the Samba
distribution that speaks of this.
Best of luck --
Ted
John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:37:09 +0530, Vasanth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi!
> >
> >Can someone tell me if you can map files/drives of NT on linux and
> >visce-versa and if so how.
> >
> >Thanx
> >Vasanth
> >
> You can use Linux as an NT domain controller and share files on it by
using
> the Samba package. As part of the samba package, there is a command called
> smbclient which should let your Linux system access the NT file/print
> server.
>
> I'm just starting to learn this myself and don't have it working yet.
>
> Try http://www.samba.org
>
> Samba comes on most of the major Linux distributions.
>
> John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:57:31 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Not too mention the fact that PostgreSQL is more full-featured, supporting
>>> a whole bunch of goodies that MySQL doesn't (like transactions).
>
>Last time I look at both PostgreSQL and MySQL, it was the opposite.
>See http://www.tcx.se/crash-me.html
>Its a big chart and will take sometime to load but compares all the
>databases, not just the free ones.
Um, that chart shows that PostgreSQL supports transactions and MySQL
does not...
(Folks who really buy into the relational model for databases often
get upset when a database doesn't have transaction support. A large
selection of "regular folks" don't care about it though, and leaving
it out can improve performance.)
--
Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:55:10 -0400
In article <0Jxu3.67870$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
WME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You seem to know too much. Is there a book on Postgre that you recommend?
>The tutorials that I was able to get don't go beyond the basic SQL commands.
For a lot of stuff, that's all you want to use. If you stick to the
SQL commands, you can switch databases pretty much at will (as long as
you stick to the common subset of features, which isn't all that tough).
You can get at the transactional support of PostgreSQL by the standard
SQL begin/commit blocks; some other databases don't support that.
To use SQL in a real-world application, I find it best to use a
scripting language (TCL/Perl/PHP3/Python). They make it easy to throw
SQL code into a string and then pass it to your database server. You
can switch servers via relatively minor syntactic changes. This isn't
always true for C code (though it should be for any databases that
support ANSI/ISO-style embedding of SQL in C -- but many don't).
--
Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
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