Linux-Misc Digest #461, Volume #21 Thu, 19 Aug 99 11:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: PPP not working in 2.3.13 (W.G. Unruh)
Re: giving a 'lpr' command from within a C program (Jon Bloom)
Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Tim Izod)
Re: Any free SQL server available? ("WME")
Why are my sound devices "busy"? (Nicholas Pappas)
Instalation of RedHat 6.0 stopped, help please (Pawel Idzi)
Re: Attension !!! I can not instal 2nd linux in same disk (Jon Skeet)
Re: Small Linux Server Distribution? (Mircea)
fdisk & unallocated sectors (Don Feliciano)
Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Jim Chaney)
Re: Cracks for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: currencies (Eugene O'Neil)
fifo in syslog (Wojciech Jeczmien)
can't find mail fetched with fetchmail (Philip S Tellis)
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Doug DeJulio)
Re: compression on DAT tapes (-ljl-)
Communicator 4.6 kills itself (IceLava)
Re: Interested in using Linux (Robin Smith)
Re: looking for... ("R. Fiato")
Re: Interested in using Linux ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
man pages as text ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ISDN or 2-56k Modems and RH 6.0 (Denis Leroy)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W.G. Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP not working in 2.3.13
Date: 19 Aug 99 11:48:09 GMT
Andrew Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I've recently downloaded the development kernel 2.3.13.
>However, although I have compiled PPP support into the kernel, I can't
>use the PPP program in KDE 1.1 .
>If I try and run KPPP, I get an error message that my kernel does not
>support PPP.
>However, if I run dmesg I can clearly see that it says PPP release 2.4.
If you are working with experimetnal kernels and pppd, why do you then try
connecting with something like kppp. That is a bad idea not least because it
removes you from almost all debugging info and you are never sure if it is
kppp, pppd, or the kernel that is giving youtrouble.
Also, tht error message is by tradition the one errormessage that pppd puts out
no matter what the problem is. Any error causes pppd to tell you that maybe
the kernel does not support ppp (not the use of ht eowrd maybe. It does NOT say
that your kernel does not support it, only that it may not. It is a bit
like it saying that maybe ppp is not working because world war iii has started
and all the phone lines are down. That is a possibility, but not a likelihood.
Similarly pppd's error message is possibility but rarely a likelihood.
So, please set up pppd with a script, and use the debugging available to
you that way to debug the pppd problem. I suspect strongly that it is a
kppp problem and not a pppd problem.
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From: Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: giving a 'lpr' command from within a C program
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:49:28 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> i need to issue an 'lpr' que command from within my C program.
>
> i would be really grateful for a pointer.
man system
Jon
--
Jon Bloom, KE3Z
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Publications Manager (Software, CD-ROMs and Web site)
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From: Tim Izod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: 18 Aug 1999 19:38:46 +0100
Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Alan Lee wrote:
> >
> > Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > Seems like Soundblasters are good. Ensoniq seems good also.
> > > There are drivers for
> > > SB Live from Creative. SB 16 is easy A lot of people
> > > have problems with AWE 64. SB 128 seems to work pretty well also.
> > > Jeanette
> >
> > Mine is SB 128... but it DOESN'T work at all! When I do sndconfig,
> > it tells me that "sox: /dev/dsp not known". Does anyone know what it means?
> > How can I get it work??? My kernel is 2.2.9
> >
> > Alan Lee
>
>
> Buy the 4-Front driver for $20
Or in preference, use the ALSA driver
(http://www.alsa-project.org or look on freshmeat). The ALSA drivers
are free, they're GPL and IMHO they sound better. Plus you get
/dev/dsp support if you compile them with OSS support. The reasons why
there isn't /dev/dep suport in the included kernel driver are given in
the kernel docs.
--
Tim.
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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:19:39 -0400
> Note that it is out of date with respect to postgresql features.
I feel better now. It seemed like postgresql had one of the lowest features
in the comparison.
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From: Nicholas Pappas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Why are my sound devices "busy"?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:18:36 -0400
I've been trying to get a SB Live! and AD1816 (chipset) sound card working
under Red Hat 6.0.
I got some great help for the SB Live!, so thank you to everyone who
helped me out there. But I am still very confused about why I can not get
my workstation at work to play sound!
I am using a 'HP Kayak' workstation which uses AD1816 chipset sound (Red
Hat even points this out in the 'sndconfig' list of possible sound
drivers).
I've grabbed all the settings out of Windows '95 and tried to set up the
card, but every time I get the same error! I get the following 'modprobe
error' every time:
/lib/modules/2.2.5-15/misc/ad1816.o
init_module: Device or resource busy
I've tried stopping the module and then using 'sndconfig', I've tried
manually editing the conf.modules file -- all to the same result. I get
this same message at boot time when all the 'OK's pop up (I get a 'FAILED'
when my sound device is loading).
Any help/tips as to why Linux thinks that my sound card is in use is
greatly appreciated!
Nick
--
/*********************************************************************
Nicholas Pappas Hey, life is pretty stupid.
Lucent Technologies With lots of hub-bub to keep you busy,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] But really not amounting to much.
1D-185N - Shakespeare
*********************************************************************/
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From: Pawel Idzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Instalation of RedHat 6.0 stopped, help please
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:14:25 +0200
After packets have been installed, mouse is detecting. No mouse was
detected and it's ok, because there isn't any mouse, so I've chosen
"no mouse". And then, after this, only 3 things are on the
screen: blue background, on top - mouseconfig 3.9, and bottom - the
horrible blinking cursor. Now in this console I can write, but without
any positive reaction of the system. When I hit <enter> the screen
only is scrolling down.
On the other consoles (Alt-Fx) there is no errors (unfortunetly). And
one more thing: The system didn't hang ("only" instalation stopped) -
I can normal give commands in console, where is a shell (Alt-F2).
What I supposed to do, to install RH 6.0?
Or - How I may diagnose the system (in shell) to check what's wrong?
machine: p120, 32 MB RAM, SCSI - Symbios Logic, HD SCSI Seagete,
CD-ROM SCSI.
PS: Sorry for my english :-\
--
Pawel Idzi
http://ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl/~ipawel
e-mail: usun/remove .wieszac.spamerow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Attension !!! I can not instal 2nd linux in same disk
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:44:00 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey first of all I tried to use fdisk (linux of course) because I have an
> long experience
> (I have never used Disk Druid before) so fdisk gave me masage There is no
> space to create a partition When I tried to add one and I have at least 1
> 1/2 Gb free disk space
Free disk space or free and unpartitioned disk space?
As for your root partition, I can only reinforce what others say: there
is no "root partition" number for Linux, just a "Linux native" partition
which you happen to mount as root. No need for unique IDs or anything.
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small Linux Server Distribution?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:41:06 -0400
There's ZipSlack - a shaved-down version of Slackware, with mostly
everything you need, including Apache, etc., but it won't fit on a few
floppies, since it needs about 80 megs of space. It's mainly intended to
be installed on a zip disk. It comes preconfigured, all you have to do
is unzip the file and it's ready to go. You can find it at
ftp.cdrom.com, in the slackware distribution tree (it's a 35M download)
and on any Slackware 3.6 or 4.0 installation CD-ROM.
MST
mms67 wrote:
>
> Is there a small distribution of linux (that fits into possibly a few
> floppies) that can act as a server for HTTP, POP3, SMP, and FTP? There is
> really for light work, so it need not have heavy-duty servers like Apache,
> but the whole distribution needs to be compact and easy to install.
>
> Any insight into this would be most appreciated.
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From: Don Feliciano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: fdisk & unallocated sectors
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:56:14 GMT
I used Norton Ghost to make an image of my Slackware 4.0 partitions at=20
work, and put them on a new drive I have at home. (Ghost works just=20
like dd, I think). This worked well, and after adjusting /etc/fstab=20
and compiling a custom kernel, evrything works great... almost=20
everything, anyway.
There are only 2 partitions set up - / and /boot. On the original=20
(source) PC, the / partition is 1.4 GIG, and the /boot partition is 16=20
MB. On the new (target) PC, I used Linux's fdisk to make a 20 MB=20
partition and a 3 GIG partition. I then used Ghost to import my=20
images. Now df reports that / is 1.4 GIG. Linux fdisk shows that the=20
partition is really 3 GIG, but a verification tells me that there are=20
8311 unallocated sectors.
Anyone have any idea how I can reclaim the missing 1.6 GIG of space?=20
(Partition Magic for Windoze sees a 3 GIG partition).
I'd really appreciate any ideas... I've added a TON of customizations=20
to this implementation, which is why I chose not to just do a fresh=20
install.
(Don't know that it matters, but the source PC had the partitons on=20
/dev/hda, with /boot on partition 6 and / on partition 7)
Here's some possibly useful output from fdisk (hdb6 is the partiton=20
giving me a headache):
Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hdb: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 969 cylinders
Units =3D cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 2 969 3902976 5 Extended
/dev/hdb5 2 6 20128+ 83 Linux native
/dev/hdb6 7 768 3072352+ 83 Linux native
/dev/hdb7 769 937 681376+ 83 Linux native
/dev/hdb8 938 969 128992+ 82 Linux swap
Command (m for help): v
8311 unallocated sectors
Command (m for help): x
Expert command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hdb: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 969 cylinders
Nr AF Hd Sec Cyl Hd Sec Cyl Start Size ID
1 00 0 1 1 127 63 968 8064 7805952 05
2 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
3 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
4 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
5 00 1 1 1 127 63 5 63 40257 83
6 00 1 1 6 127 63 767 63 6144705 83
7 00 1 1 768 127 63 936 63 1362753 83
8 00 1 1 937 127 63 968 63 257985 82
Expert command (m for help): v
8311 unallocated sectors
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or post
Thank you!
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From: Jim Chaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:40:08 +0100
Sean wrote:
> I got my modem up and running and only my soundcard and scsi don't work.
> The guy who wrote the OSS drivers told me that I couldn't get my Audiotrix
> 3D-XG soundcard to work under Linux. So which low cost ISA soundcard is
> the best? I don't want a really awfull one but I don't want a really
> expensive one (50-60$ would be nice :) and I want it to work with Linux
> very well. Could anyone help me with this?
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
I have a real cheap and nasty soundcard in my Linux box (after all, its a
server not a workstation). I have used an SB 16 in the past with no problems,
but last year switched it for a friend's CS4232. Windows didn't like the CS
card because the midi port was blown, but Linux just accepts it and carries
on.
Getting most soundcards to work is a matter of installing the correct driver
as a module, running pnpdump, editing the output file to set the IRQ / DMA and
then running isapnp at each boot (oh, and update conf.modules to reflect the
new settings).
To be honest, it is not half as bad as it seemed a year ago when I started on
Linux.
Good Luck!
Jim Chaney
======================================================================
jchaney AT nortelnetworks DOT com The views of this post are not
necessarily those of Nortel Networks
======================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Cracks for Linux?
Date: 19 Aug 1999 07:33:06 -0600
Simon Pallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Cracks for Linux? Oxymoronic don't you think?
No. Just plain moronic.
Kurt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene O'Neil)
Subject: Re: currencies
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:46:10 GMT
In article <7o2kau$f4k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Richard Kulisz) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Actually, the Japanese economy is a concern to the US government because
>>without their money, you cannot finance your budget deficit. This would
>
>This isn't correct. The USA is the only nation that can print as much
>money as it wants to without any repercusions to itself because the US
>dollar is the de facto international currency.
We could probably print a few hundred million dollars here and there and get
away with it, but we could not get away with printing billions and billions of
dollars any time we felt like it. A dollar is valuable only because it is
rare: it has no other intrinsic value. How long do you think it would remain
the international currency if we stamped it out like toilet paper?
-Eugene
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From: Wojciech Jeczmien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fifo in syslog
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:20:15 +0200
Hi
Can someone tell me how to use fifo in syslog?
I want to filter out some messages before sending it to printer.
--
Wojciech J.
ICQ: 13640235
----> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't find mail fetched with fetchmail
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:13:40 +0530
When I use fetchmail, the mail comes in properly, but I do not know
where it goes from there. I know it is supposed to be forwarded to port
25, but it doesn't end up in anyone's inbox. What do I have to set the
local name as? I've set it to philip - my username, but it doesn't show
up. I then changed it to philip@localhost, still no luck. What to do?
I have looked through the entire manual pages for both fetchmail and
sendmail. I am also having a problem with "telnet localhost pop3" I
get an error:
bad port no: pop3
Could this be the reason for the mail not showing up in the inbox? I
have no problem sending mail between users on the same machine.
What to do?
Philip
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 19 Aug 1999 09:58:19 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Other people have said other things about this, but I feel obligated to
>point out that Python and Perl are both fairly bad languages for doing
>what the GNU Project has largely done with C.
This is true, but they're *great* for all sorts of things that "round
out" what has been done with C into a whole system. For example,
they're great for whipping out complex scripts to handle sysadmin
tasks with lots of steps ("Figure out which users have passwords that
will expire in a week and who are over quota, enter that info into
this SQL database, render a report in LaTeX, and fax it to Fred.").
They're also good for cron tasks. They provide good "glue" languages.
I'd consider using GUILE for this, but:
* I can't find documentation on Ctax, and I don't like Scheme. (I've
hunted for it! How do I use GUILE without ever being aware of its
Scheme syntax flavor?)
* It appears to be under full GPL and owned by a group that doesn't
take Linus's stance on dynamic-loaded modules, so it's not clear to
me that I can link in Oracle support for example. Until the whole
of an end-user GNU system is complete (eg. good temp-friendly word
processor, good temp-friendly spreadsheet, etc), I will have to use
*some* proprietary software, so even *ambiguity* on this point is
crippling.
--
Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: compression on DAT tapes
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:51:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gustavo Adolfo Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a SDT-S9000 Sony's DAT unit, and I'm running Red Hat 5.2,
> kernel 2.2.10. I just want to made compressed backups. I've tried
> mt -f /dev/st0 defcompression 1
> and
> mt -f /dev/st0 compression 1
> but it didn't work.
I use Kai Makisra's "mt-st" (not GNu's "mt") which has more features.
BTW: They are both called "mt". To see if you are using Kai's do:
mt -v
it should report "mt-st v. 0.5b".
Using "mt-st" you can do:
mt datcompression
which report the state of compression, or
mt datcompression 1
to turn compression ON.
If your mt is the GNU one, you can compile and install Kai's. It
compiles out of the box.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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From: IceLava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:34:07 +0000
Got this weird prob. Not too sure whether the bug belongs to X or
Navigator.
everytime I load up www.ninemsn.com.au it'll close by itself.
when I try to load it again it'll report a bus error for the new
process.
anybody know wat's this all about?
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From: Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Interested in using Linux
Date: 19 Aug 1999 15:47:32 +0100
Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Go to a store and buy a box set containing Red Hat Linux. It has
> very easy to follow instructions and is relatively easy to install
> and use.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> Daniel O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > While I have been using a PC for Years and the Net and e-mail for 4 or 5
> > years
> > I must confess I know very little about Linux but am very interested
> > .What version is best i.e. is it Redhat or Gnu or Mandrake ?.Where do I
> > get the software etc.?
> > I already have a 3.1 Gb Hard disk partitioned into a 2.0Gb which carries
> > Win '95 and a 1.1 Gb "D" drive which is basically blank apart from
> > downloaded files stored in a folder but there is still over 800Mb of
> > free space .The machine is a Gateway 200 with 83 Mhz overdrive processor
> > 32 Mb Ram ,Rockwell soundcard
> > Intel Motherboard with onboard video (1Mb Video Ram)
> > Rockwell 56K V90 Modem ,HP 690 Desk jet Printer and Parallel Port Iomega
> > Zip Drive .
> > Any help or ideas would be very very welcome
> > All best Wishes
> > Dan O'Connell
You should be able to run Linux OK on that setup. Is your modem a
WinModem? ( only works with Microsoft Windows ), if it is attached to
the PC by a serial cable then you'll have no worries.
Robin
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From: "R. Fiato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for...
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:12:45 -0400
Try this:
find / -mtime 2 -print
If you don't want to search mounted file systems, append "-mount".
Frank Eersels wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for a command or script which displays the files which
> have been altered the past two days.
>
> Frank
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Interested in using Linux
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Aug 1999 08:01:28 -0700
Daniel O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> While I have been using a PC for Years and the Net and e-mail for 4 or 5
> years
> I must confess I know very little about Linux but am very interested
> .What version is best i.e. is it Redhat or Gnu or Mandrake ?.Where do I
> get the software etc.?
I like Slackware best, and it will also save you room.
> I already have a 3.1 Gb Hard disk partitioned into a 2.0Gb which carries
> Win '95 and a 1.1 Gb "D" drive which is basically blank apart from
> downloaded files stored in a folder but there is still over 800Mb of
> free space .The machine is a Gateway 200 with 83 Mhz overdrive processor
> 32 Mb Ram ,Rockwell soundcard
> Intel Motherboard with onboard video (1Mb Video Ram)
> Rockwell 56K V90 Modem ,HP 690 Desk jet Printer and Parallel Port Iomega
> Zip Drive .
Don't know about the video and modem, but the rest looks fine
> Any help or ideas would be very very welcome
> All best Wishes
> Dan O'Connell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: man pages as text
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:09:05 GMT
If I want to write a certain man page out to a file with
man xxxx >man.out
there remains some unwanted format characters.
Is there a way of getting "pure" text output ?
Bye
Marcus
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From: Denis Leroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISDN or 2-56k Modems and RH 6.0
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:04:15 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am deciding on ISDN vs. 2-56k modems for faster internet access. I am
> too far from the telco co so these are my only choices using todays
> technologies.
>
> Linux- What I need to know is which is easier to setup under RH Linux
> 6.0 ? <as I don't have alot of spare time (who does?)>.
Performance wise, ISDN is vastly supperior. ISDN has much much much
better latency, because it uses SyncPPP which is a version of the PPP
protocol optimized for digital lines. Latency is a lot more important
than bandwidth, though it doesn't seem to be a well known fact. Modems
rely on data compression to improve bandwidth, but that hurts latency,
and besides a lot of the bandwidth-consuming data on the web (sounds,
images) is already compressed.
As far as installtion, configuring ISDN under RH 6.0 is not so simple,
but is worth the effort. Just make sure you get an ISDN card that's
supported (see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/isdn for lists of supported
cards). Make sure you get the exact same cards (if it says IDE version
supported and you get the PCI version, I can guarantee it won't work ;-)
).
Hope this helps.
-denis
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