Linux-Misc Digest #461, Volume #27 Tue, 27 Mar 01 15:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: The death of MS Office? (Grant Edwards)
man files for Java (Eric Tetz)
Re: installing linux ignoring a swap partition (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED? (Neal Rhodes)
Re: Adding disk to raid0 w/reiserfs (Joshua Baker-LePain)
lpr not accepting new jobs. (Steve Jones)
Re: Partitions and Sizes (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Cracked Server ("The Spook")
Re: The death of MS Office? (Steve Lamb)
Re: Adding disk to raid0 w/reiserfs (bill davidsen)
Unable to open font ("Christoph Berger")
Re: Shelling into WinNT ("The Spook")
Re: iptables under 2.4.2 (bill davidsen)
Re: SanTools: File manager, text editor etc. ("Harlan Grove")
Re: 6.x -> 7.x : RH Linux changes? ("Harlan Grove")
Displaying Netscape Attachments (Mike Fontenot)
Re: The death of MS Office? (Jean-David Beyer)
Trouble with mail and telnet - One direction only ("William T. Trotter")
Re: Cracked Server (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:19:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Lamb wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:03:16 -0700, Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>How do you turn it off?
>
> View / Integrated Desktop. It still looks the same except it doesn't take
>over the whole screen, it is just a windowed app at that point.
It still insists on presenting a "desktop" -- it's just not
taking up the whole screen. I don't want a "desktop", I just
want a window with a spreadsheet (or memo) in it. And I want
to be able to open documents from the command line by typing:
$ some-command filename
I couldn't figure out how to get SO to do that. Applix works
great. ;)
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... The waitress's
at UNIFORM sheds TARTAR SAUCE
visi.com like an 8" by 10" GLOSSY...
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From: Eric Tetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: man files for Java
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:38:25 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings...
I want to do some Java development on Linux. My editor will do a man page
lookup on a highlighted word, which really comes in handy when I'm
programming in C, but is totally worthless for Java, as the Java docs are
in HTML format.
Are there manpage version of the Java does available, or is there a tool
that can convert JavaDoc generated HTML into manpages?
Cheers,
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: installing linux ignoring a swap partition
Date: 27 Mar 2001 18:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Massimiliano Caovilla ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> I have a machine with 8Gb HD, with first 4Gb dedicated to a solaris
> partition: (type 82, a primary one). I want to install linux on the next
> 4Gb, but the installer of redhat 6.2 automatically set the solaris
> partition to swap space, due to the fact that both solaris and linux
> swap partitions appear to use id 82.
> I avoided the problem installing linux before than solaris, but now I
> have to reinstall linux and I was wondering how to tell it to ignore
> solaris' partition. Thanks
Temporarily redefine your solaris as type 'anything but 82', say 6 or 83,
then reinstall linux. (Boot with floppy/cdrom if necessary.)
--
Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:35:03 -0500
From: Neal Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED?
and your explanation makes perfect sense when I step back and look at
it. All is working properly now. Thank you.
Markku Kolkka wrote:
>
> Neal Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I went into linuxconf and configured the NIC:
> (...)
> > 3Net device 33c509
> This should be eth0
>
> > 3Kernel module
> And "3c509" goes here
>
> > It seems to have created the normal stuff...
> >
> > [root@ducky sysconfig]# cat network
> > NETWORKING=yes
> > FORWARD_IPV4=false
> > HOSTNAME="ducky.mdpcorp.com"
> > GATEWAY="192.100.0.1"
> > GATEWAYDEV="eth0"
> >
> > [root@ducky network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-3c509
>
> You should have a file ifcfg-eth0, notice that your GATEWAYDEV points
> to eth0
>
> > DEVICE="3c509"
>
> This should be eth0 as well.
>
> --
> Markku Kolkka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
==============================================================================
Neal Rhodes MNOP Ltd (770)-
972-5430
President Lilburn (atlanta) GA 30247 Fax:
978-4741
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mnopltd.com/
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Adding disk to raid0 w/reiserfs
Date: 27 Mar 2001 18:37:02 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Hi.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Basically, I have a RAID0 md0 device on my system now with 2 disks. I want
> to add a 3rd disk to it and probably a 4th, 5th and 6th later on down the
> road. I can't figure out how to get Linux to add the disk without
> destroying the data that's currently in the MD0. Also, I'm using reiserfs,
> not ext2.
> The problem I'm running into now is I've partitioned the new drive and added
> it to /etc/raidtab. When the system boots, it's telling me that there is an
> invalid suberblock for the new disk, obviously because I haven't run mkraid
> on it as I fear the destruction of the current md0.
And you are right to. I don't have too much experience with software
RAID, but, straight from the mkraid man page:
Note that initializing RAID devices destroys all of the
data on the consituent devices.
> Incase anyone asks, no, it's not possible for me to move the data from the
> md0 elsewhere while I nuke and recreate the md0 :)
You mean, you don't have *anywhere* to put this data temporarily? You were
going to try this *very* risky operation (even if it could be done) without
backing up your data? That is a seriously bad idea.
Remember, even if you could expand the RAID device itself, you would also
need to expand the filesystem. While this *can* be done, again, I would
never do it without backing up the data.
Is there any particular reason you need all those drives to be one
raid device (and RAID0, for that matter, providing no true "redundancy")?
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lpr not accepting new jobs.
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:42:02 -0500
I'm running RH 6.2 with kernel 2.2.14-5.0. I've applied all of the
updates for security that I'm aware of.
I was running lpr 0.5 something when this happend, but have since
upgraded to 0.71.1-mdk, to no avail.
If I send a print job to the spooler, I get the following message:
12:30 ~/ps$ pr encoder.ps | lpr
lpr: connect: Connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
If I run /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd restart, then all of the jobs are sent to
the printer (multiple jobs going to multiple printers behave properly).
the next time I try to submit a job to any printer, however, I get the
same failure message as above.
I'm goin' nuts here, does anyone have any idea why this may have
happend? I'ts been running fine for about 6 months now and I've not made
any changes to the system for a month. It just stopped working about 4
days ago.
Thank for any help or advice!
--
He who laughs last hasn't been told the terrible truth.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: 27 Mar 2001 18:43:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Floyd Davidson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger) wrote:
>>Floyd Davidson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>>> Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>I don't like to do stuff like partitioning twice and I don't like to run
>>>>out of space in let's say /usr and having a lot of space left on /opt.
>>>
>>> That is exactly why symbolic links exist. Correctly such an unbalance
>>> is trivial.
>>
>>Won't you then be negating a major reason for multiple partitions; ie
>>file-system separation/isolation?
>
> Liberal use of symbolic links allows even *more* partitions,
> thus having even better "separation/isolation". Ignoring
> symlinks forces guessing on the high side when sizing partitions
> because it is so difficult to go back and resize one that is too
> small. However, if the intent to begin with is to use symlinks,
> a conservative in sizing partitions can be taken (with some
> exceptions), and of course several more partitions than appears
> necessary can be used to advantage.
> [snip]
So if I understand what you hinted at, the idea is to have numerous spare
partitions around, rather than (for ex. if /usr is overflowing) putting
/usr/local with /opt or /home/me or whatever [/usr/local would go into its
own new partition].
--
Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cracked Server
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:49:07 +0200
ImaLuzer wrote ...
>I had a server get cracked. I wiped the HD and reinstalled everything. I
>believe that someone used a buffer overrun attack to install a rootkit, but
>I'm not sure. Will disabling anonymous FTP negate a malicious person's
>ability to apply this crack again?
That depends on the way your system is cracked.
There is currently a malicious worm, called LION WORM, that enters a Linux
system through a buffer overflow (I think) in BIND version 8.2.2 and 8.2.3
(the name server that handles DNS). If you have one of these versions of
BIND and have named enabled -- upgrade immediately for your own protection.
I've just had one of my friends' system cracked and it's a bitch to get it
up and running again.
Try to keep track of security fixes at the major Linux sites and of current
vulnerabilities through SANS (www.sans.org) and CERT (www.cert.org) -- and
remember to actually upgrade and/or patch your system.
/TRY
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:57:03 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:19:35 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It still insists on presenting a "desktop" -- it's just not
>taking up the whole screen. I don't want a "desktop", I just
>want a window with a spreadsheet (or memo) in it.
That it cannot do as far as I know. I call it a small matter, really.
Given that it is one little stickler in the interface that is easily gotten
around I'd rather have that small UI point that the Office suite with its
plethora of problems above and beynd the UI.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Adding disk to raid0 w/reiserfs
Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:16:58 GMT
In article <0p1w6.16678$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hi.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I've been all over google and redhat.com in search of the answer, but I
| can't find one.
|
| Basically, I have a RAID0 md0 device on my system now with 2 disks. I want
| to add a 3rd disk to it and probably a 4th, 5th and 6th later on down the
| road. I can't figure out how to get Linux to add the disk without
| destroying the data that's currently in the MD0. Also, I'm using reiserfs,
| not ext2.
Reading the documentation you will see that you can not add the extra
drives without destroying the data. The docs clearly, unambiguously and
explicitly say this in several places.
| The problem I'm running into now is I've partitioned the new drive and added
| it to /etc/raidtab. When the system boots, it's telling me that there is an
| invalid suberblock for the new disk, obviously because I haven't run mkraid
| on it as I fear the destruction of the current md0.
|
| Incase anyone asks, no, it's not possible for me to move the data from the
| md0 elsewhere while I nuke and recreate the md0 :)
If you are running RAID-0 and not making backups you are going to lose
all your data eventually, might as well do it now. Then each time you
add a drive you can start over. If you don't like this idea, start
thinking about backup now, RAID-0 is for performance, not reliability,
and you most definitely are going to have a drive fail sometime.
| I'm running Kernel 2.4.2 with all the latest patches and raid tools.
|
| Any help would be appreciated.
Add four drives now. Configure three as RAID-0 (md1) and copy your
data there. Now make the last new drive and the two old drives RAID-0
(redefine md0). Now make md0 and md1 a RAID-1 (mirrored md2) device, and
poof you have more space and some reliability as well.
You can look at LVM, it will tell you how to add drives on the fly,
but you have to start over, they aren't RAID, I believe you have to use
ext2, and it tells you to back up your data before playing.
The first thing you do when you're in a hole is stop digging. Once you
solve the backup problem all other problems become easy. I suspect
you're not going to believe me or any of the other people who posted
much the same thing...
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
At LinuxExpo Sun was showing Linux applications running on Solaris.
They don't get it, the arrow points the other way. There's a reason why
there's no SolarisExpo, Solaris is a tool; Linux is a philosophy, a
religion, a way of life, and only incidentally an operating system.
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From: "Christoph Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to open font
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:20:54 +0200
when i open a xterm window, i get the error message:
xterm: unable to open font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-semcondensed-13-129
.....","trying fixed" .....
How can i choose another font?
CB
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shelling into WinNT
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:53:43 +0200
Neil Zanella wrote ...
>
>Hello,
>
>Is it possible to use GNU Cygwin or something similar to set up Win2K
>so that one can shell into it in the same way one can telnet or shh
>to a Linux box?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Neil
I do not remember whether Cygwin contained a telnet server for NT (I think
not), but Microsoft has released something called Unix Services for NT (or
some such) that, among other programs, contains a telnet server for NT.
It's not the most useful thing to have, as most NT programs are hardcore
graphics-based with no options for command-line use. I know, there still are
a number of DOS commands available and then some.
/TRY
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: iptables under 2.4.2
Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:29:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nick Traxler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Does anyone know a simple one or two command sequence to
| iptables to turn on forwarding for everything?
| Under 2.2.16, I just did:
|
| ipchains -A forward -s 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
| -d 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -i eth0 -j MASQ
|
| and everything magically forwarded. ICQ file send worked
| through the masquerade, and I was happy. But I can't figure
| out iptables, and I don't really have time right now to pore
| over the manpage or try to customize someone's long
| rc.firewall script.
|
| Does anyone know this one?
First, MASQ 'is only valid in the nat table in the POSTROUTING chain."
In other words it has zero to do with forwarding. To do what you want
you just set the policy to ACCEPT (which I think is the default).
iptables -P FORWARD -j ACCEPT
This is not good protection, I suggest a more complex and safer setup,
I'm just answering your question!
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
At LinuxExpo Sun was showing Linux applications running on Solaris.
They don't get it, the arrow points the other way. There's a reason why
there's no SolarisExpo, Solaris is a tool; Linux is a philosophy, a
religion, a way of life, and only incidentally an operating system.
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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SanTools: File manager, text editor etc.
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:42:36 GMT
Alexander Lashenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Graphic User Interface without X11! Remote access to Linux based
>application via Java applet.
>
>SanTools is a set of utilities that includes a file manager Screen
>Shell, text editor Ned, binary editor EDX, Screen library and some other
>utilities. The only thing necessery is a web browser (Explorer or
>Netscape) and you will have a graphic user interface on Linux without
>X11.
>Download from: http://www.unixspace.com/tools
And what exactly does Netscape run under? Plain SVGA graphics?
This looks like 'instant water - just add water'.
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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 6.x -> 7.x : RH Linux changes?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:42:37 GMT
Brian Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>RH Linux has changed much from 6.x to 7.x. Is there any web page
>for that changes? I want to know what is changed.
Have you tried searching Red Hat's site?
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From: Mike Fontenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Displaying Netscape Attachments
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:49:07 GMT
Does anyone know how to cause attachments that are included
in outgoing email in Netscape to be displayed, when they are
received, in the navigator window (after the attachment's icon
is clicked), rather than just being appended to the email message?
I.e., when I receive email from people that includes an attachment
(say, an image), usually I need to click on the icon representing
the attachment, and the attachment is then displayed in the
navigator window. But when I send a message with an attachment,
when the message is received, the attachment is already appended
to the message in the email window. Is there a way to tell
Netscape that I want the attachment I am sending to be displayed
(after being clicked on) in the navigator window?
Any advise much appreciated.
Mike Fontenot
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:53:53 -0500
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ...
> >It does not set a standard. Microsoft change the standards with every
> >release. The standards are secret, and secret standards are oxymoron.
>
> Not quite. It's not _free_, but the Office Software Developers Kit does
> provide details on the file formats, and Microsoft Developers Network has
> even more infomation in this vein. FWLIW, there was no file format change
> from Excel 97 to 2K. At least with regard to spreadsheets, arguing that the
> product with 90%+ market share doesn't set a de facto standard is just
> silly. That _doesn't_ mean we need to like it, though.
They sure changed the Word format. They now permit FastSave which most
other office suites cannot deal with. To add insult to injury, the
fast save is no faster than the slow save for medium and small sized
documents, what most people produce. Fast Save should surely not have
been the default, and they should have emphasized to the users never
to distribute anything in FastSave format. But in their impertinant
arrogance, they did not do that.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 2:50pm up 1 day, 20:38, 3 users, load average: 2.14, 2.14, 2.06
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From: "William T. Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble with mail and telnet - One direction only
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:51:33 -0700
Running RedHat Wolverine on my Linux box.
I can send mail and I can telnet out. But
I can't send mail to the machine nor can
I telnet into it.
Curious enough I can ping it from the outside,
so I know that the dns sees it.
Any idea what I am doing wrong?
Sent from a Windows XP box - with apologies.
Tom Trotter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cracked Server
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:00:19 -0500
The Spook wrote:
>
> ImaLuzer wrote ...
> >I had a server get cracked. I wiped the HD and reinstalled everything. I
> >believe that someone used a buffer overrun attack to install a rootkit, but
> >I'm not sure. Will disabling anonymous FTP negate a malicious person's
> >ability to apply this crack again?
>
> That depends on the way your system is cracked.
>
> There is currently a malicious worm, called LION WORM, that enters a Linux
> system through a buffer overflow (I think) in BIND version 8.2.2 and 8.2.3
> (the name server that handles DNS). If you have one of these versions of
> BIND and have named enabled -- upgrade immediately for your own protection.
> I've just had one of my friends' system cracked and it's a bitch to get it
> up and running again.
I belive bind 8.2.3 is OK, but anything earlier is not.
>
> Try to keep track of security fixes at the major Linux sites and of current
> vulnerabilities through SANS (www.sans.org) and CERT (www.cert.org) -- and
> remember to actually upgrade and/or patch your system.
>
> /TRY
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 2:55pm up 1 day, 20:43, 3 users, load average: 2.17, 2.14, 2.07
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