Linux-Misc Digest #462, Volume #21 Thu, 19 Aug 99 14:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself (Teonanacatl)
Re: XWindows Emulators (Dustin Puryear)
Re: VMWare & Mandrake ("Beat Rupp")
Re: Any free SQL server available? (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Accessing Linux from NT (Jon Skeet)
Re: DSL router? (Greg Leblanc)
Re: looking for... (Jon Skeet)
looking for... (Frank Eersels)
Re: problem on perl/tk ("Jens M. Felderhoff")
Re: Kernel 2.2.11 missing autoconf.h? (Paul Kimoto)
Run at boot ("Richard Berrilljr (CD)")
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Eugene O'Neil)
No core file (Kyle Jamieson)
Re: Need help please: xpager running in KDE (Teonanacatl)
Re: Run at boot (Ricardo Malta Cenit AG)
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Jeffrey C. Dege)
RedHat 5.2 XFree86 3.3.3.1 updates thread safe? (Fung Wai Keung)
Re: Linux BTTV driver problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Run at boot (Jon Skeet)
Re: crontab (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Cracks for Linux? (Bill Pitz)
Toshiba Satellite 4090DVD ("Sergio D�az")
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself ("David L. Johnson")
Re: crontab (Leonard Evens)
Where can I find Xfree86 3.3.4 to download? help, please ("Spline")
HELP: IRQ resetting problem..?? (Avijit Purkayastha)
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Mooo)
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Casey Schaufler)
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Roberto Alsina)
Re: vi and X11-- no permission (Jayan M)
Re: Java and linux (Jayan M)
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From: Teonanacatl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:56:56 -0600
In your browser settings, try disabling Javascript, Java, cookies, etc.
For security reasons, you should probably be using internet at these
settings anyway.
Then, try accessing the site again. If it crapps out on you again,
there may be nasty m$ code on the page, or it may even contain "kill
netscape" code. I've seen fewer and fewer of these sites lately, but at
the height of the broswser wars, there were plenty of sites out there,
mostly pro-m$ sites, which contained "kill netscape" code which would
kill the browser every time.
If you still can't access the site, try it on a different machine, and
if you can on the other machine, I would shoot off a nastry letter to
the webmaster at the domain.
I was able to access it just now with my browser set the way I
mentioned. Of course this is version 4.51
Good Luck,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: XWindows Emulators
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:07:18 GMT
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:56:59 +0100, "simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>what you are after is termed (no pun intended) an X client for Windows...
>'cos it isn't an emulator.
>At work we use a piece of software called "RelectionsX" which is probably
>horrendously expensive.
Rather, an X Server. Try MI/X Server, it's free and works great.
---
Dustin Puryear
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From: "Beat Rupp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMWare & Mandrake
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:33:56 +0200
>I suggest you visit the VMware newsgroups server (news.vmware.com),
>where your problem has already beem addressed and discussed by other
>people.
Thanks, this newsserver solved my problem. Now Windows is only one click
away! Cool!
Beat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:04:28 GMT
On 18 Aug 1999 09:17:15 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>"WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>
>> > Not too mention the fact that PostgreSQL is more full-featured, supporting
>> a
>> > whole bunch of goodies that MySQL doesn't (like transactions). It is also
>Last time I look at both PostgreSQL and MySQL, it was the opposite.
>See http://www.tcx.se/crash-me.html
>Its a big chart and will take sometime to load but compares all the
>databases, not just the free ones.
What's the deal with accessing PostgreSQL from Access and other
Windows products? Any ODBC support?
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Dustin Puryear
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Accessing Linux from NT
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:58:52 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know of any software to access the Linux filesystem from
> within Windows NT? Also is there any software to make the NT command
> prompt more 'Linux User Friendly' i.e. the ls command and the use of the
> Tab key?
The tab key for command line completion (of filenames only, and it
expands them to the full name unfortunately) is available with the
following registry modification:
In
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor
change CompletionChar to 9.
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From: Greg Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.slakware,at.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: DSL router?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:22:58 GMT
As far as I know, uswest.net uses DHCP to give client machines a
publicly routable IP address. I haven't played with my cisco enough
yet, but I think that you should be able to set the wan interface to use
DHCP, and then choose an IP for the lan interface. Then just enable
DHCP for the lan interface using some private IP block. The
router/bridge also has nat capabilities, which you should enable and
then you should be all set. However, this is NOT what I would do. I'd
set up a linux machine with firewalling and use filters to make sure
that people can't just come in and steal/demolish your computers.
greg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marc --
> I could be wrong, but isn't that basically just connecting a network
> interface? Doesn't it just plug into an Ethernet card, and gets
configured
> accordingly?
>
> It really varies depending on the ISP... I installed a DSL modem that
> actually was a router (that is, you just plugged it into an Ethernet
hub,
> and anything on that physical network could get access with a real IP
> address).
>
> What exactly is your setup?
>
> --John
>
> Marc Ohmann wrote:
>
> > Can anyone refer a good how-to or any resource dealing with linux
> > router/firewall and a cisco 675 DSL modemm to me? I have read all
of
> > the relevant LDP how-tos but something more case specific would
help.
> > The kernel is recompiling right now and so far everything is going
as
> > planned (knock on wood) but I am sure that eventually I am going to
need
> > a good resource.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > marc
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: looking for...
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:25:30 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm looking for a command or script which displays the files which
> have been altered the past two days.
find (directory name) -mtime 2
(Or "man find" for more details.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Eersels)
Subject: looking for...
Date: 19 Aug 1999 13:29:17 GMT
Hi all,
I'm looking for a command or script which displays the files which
have been altered the past two days.
Frank
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From: "Jens M. Felderhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: problem on perl/tk
Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:36:36 +0200
Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I change the U to small u and put " on Hello World,
> but I got it run
>
> Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
Set the environment variable PERL5LIB=<wherever you installed Tk.pm>
so that it is in your search path.
Tsch�ss
Jens
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.11 missing autoconf.h?
Date: 19 Aug 1999 11:27:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[misspelled newsgroup elided]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark E. Drummond wrote:
> Trying to build a few tools that are failing on a missing
> linux/autoconf.h. Double checked my links in /usr/include and
> (re)grabbed the 2.2.11 kernel source. autoconf.h is definately not in
> there
... because it is generated when you run your choice of
"make {menu,x,}config".
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From: "Richard Berrilljr (CD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Run at boot
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:27:57 -0500
I'm looking for a way other than chmod u+s and putting it in the rc.local
file to run a program at boot as a specific user. If anyone knows how
this could be accomplished it would be greatly appreciated.
Rich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene O'Neil)
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:08:54 GMT
In article <7otf9j$3hu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Richard Kulisz) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>If someone chooses to stop working why should he/she get money.
>
>Because they're human beings? Because they deserve dignity? Because
>they *should* have the choice to stop working instead of being
>compelled by the threat of starvation to whore themselves?! Ahhh,
>but none of these things are *you* concern, are they??
Wow! I have seen the light! I used to think I should work for a living, but
now I want to let someone else work extra hard so I can spend the rest of my
life drinking beer and watching TV. That's the sort of dignified lifestyle
every human being deserves! Uh, except the poor saps who will have to pay for
it. They'll still have to work, I guess.
The problem is, the US government doesn't just shovel out money to anyone who
asks for it anymore. I guess I could lobby congress to pass new laws, but that
would require effort on MY part, and I'm just too dignified for that. Why
don't you prove that you are willing to stand up for your ideas, and start
sending me half of YOUR money? It will be just like paying a new welfare tax,
only you will get the extra benifit of knowing exactly which lazy slob you are
personally giving a free ride to. Isn't that great? I'll be waiting!
-Eugene
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From: Kyle Jamieson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: No core file
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:53:15 -0400
Hello all,
I am trying to generate a core file when my program crashes, with no
luck. I have typed unlimit in the shell, yet when my program seg
faults, I get no core file anywhere. Is there another way of
controlling whether a core file is generated?
Thanks,
Kyle
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From: Teonanacatl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Need help please: xpager running in KDE
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:05:22 -0600
Mari,
Try right clicking on the pager to see if you get a menu where you can
close it. If not, click on your K button, go to utilities, select
process management, and when it comes up, look for the xpager program.
Click it, right click it when it's highlited, and select "Kill". That
will allow you to kill the process.
When using K desktop, there are several other ways to access your other
pages. Xpager is a leftover from other Windows Managers. You can use
Kpager, or even easier, use the pager on the K panel. I dont even use
that. I simply use Cntrol-tab to page.
Good Luck,
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From: Ricardo Malta Cenit AG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Run at boot
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:34:55 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Richard Berrilljr (CD)" wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a way other than chmod u+s and putting it in the rc.local
> file to run a program at boot as a specific user. If anyone knows how
> this could be accomplished it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Rich
At boot time you have root "permissions" so you can do it with
su -c "<Command>" -l <user>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:49:50 GMT
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:43:47 GMT, Christopher Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm taking a class on operating systems. During the last class, the
>instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
>Microsoft OS's. His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux) is
>free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure. Random people can
>hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the interrupts
>and stuff, since it's a free OS.
>
>I questioned the fact that the majority of servers on the internet use some
>flavor or *nix. He answered saying that only small size companies use *nix.
>Everyone else uses something more secure (he meant MS I'm assuming).
I think you're assuming wrong, here.
Unix has always been a mid-range phenomenom. Fifteen years ago, Unix
ran only on relatively small machines, compared to the IBM mainframes
that ran most of the computing world. If your prof believes that
Unix is only used at smaller sites, it's probably because he thinks
that larger sites are running mainframes. And this is true, to an
extent. Mainframes still run the majority of large business computing,
though the Unix vendors have been moving upscale and have started to
challenge them, lately.
Of course, on the internet, Unix dominates, and while there are a number
of large sites using mainframes, high-end Unix clusters are more common.
Microsoft is a Johnny-come-lately to the enterprise ball, and NT has been
chasing Unix only at the low end, while Unix has been chasing the
mainframes into the high end. Now that we've added Linux at an even
lower price-point than NT's, we've got a very interesting race.
--
The Windows API has done more to retard skill development
than anything since COBOL maintenance.
--Larry O'Brien
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fung Wai Keung)
Subject: RedHat 5.2 XFree86 3.3.3.1 updates thread safe?
Date: 19 Aug 1999 15:50:40 GMT
Hi,
Is the XFree86 3.3.3.1 RedHat 5.2 updates rpm files based on glibc
and thread safe?
And, I encounter strange shaded rectangular patch on screen when I click
on the text fields in WPref (under WindowMaker 0.60) and Xscreensaver 3.17
screen lock dialog box. How to get rid of the shaded patch?
Thanks in advance.
--
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Wai Keung, Fung
Department of Mechanical and Automation Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
Shatin, N.T.,
Hong Kong.
Tel: (852)26098056 Fax: (852)26036002
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux BTTV driver problems
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:51:50 GMT
> "Nick C." wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to install the bttv (Bt848 TV Card) driver under kernel
2.2.10,
> > glibc 2.0.7, bttv driver version 0.6.4e.
kernel 2.2 allready includes a bttv-driver, why don't you use this one?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Run at boot
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:48:52 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm looking for a way other than chmod u+s and putting it in the rc.local
> file to run a program at boot as a specific user. If anyone knows how
> this could be accomplished it would be greatly appreciated.
su (username) -c (script) can be used, but you'll still have to put it in
rc.local. Is that last part a problem, and if so, why, out of interest?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Subject: Re: crontab
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:51:26 GMT
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:11:46 -0500, Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tim wrote:
>>
>> i'm having problems with the crontab in redhat 6.
>>
>> eg 1)
>> i have an entry like this.
>> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 8-1 * * * /path/script
>> i want the script to run every 5 minutes between 8am and 1am.
>> this script does not run as required.
>
>*/1 * * * * command
>works for me under RH6.0. I'm not sure what 8-1 means above.
>Is it a typo? Or do you want 8-13?
He means 0-1,8-11
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:52:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) wrote:
>>Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this the same Barrow, Alsaka that's the Northernmost city in
>>>> America?
>>>>
>>>
>>>No. Barrow (which is the northermost city in the US) is not the
>>>one in America. That would go to Alert, Canada, (if we can call
>>>these cities...) which is way north of the (magnetic) north
>>>pole.
>>
>>Alert, Canada??? I've never heard of it!
>
>It's a radar base at the most northern tip of Canada, and about as far
>north as you can get anywhere in the world and still have solid land
>under your feet. There's only a very small bit of land further north
>than it anywhere. Take a look at a globe sometime and you'll find it
>right beside the north end of Greenland, about 500 miles south of the
>north pole.
Radar sites (i.e., LRR, SRR, BMEWS and DEWLINE) are something I
am very familiar with, but I still have never heard of this city
called Alert, Canada.
Floyd
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From: Bill Pitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cracks for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:51:45 GMT
> Personally I have found that
> for a in /dev/hd[a-z] /dev/sd[a-z]; do cp /dev/zero $a; done
Not even.
for a in /dev/hd[a-z][1-9] /sd[a-z][1-9]; do mke2fs $a; done
Produces an unstoppably reliable result. Or perhaps even:
for a in /dev/hd[a-z][1-9] /sd[a-z][1-9]; do mkdosfs $a; done
Since we don't want those folks using Linux anyway, why not send
them back to Microsnot land? :)
-Bill
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Reply-To: "Sergio D�az" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Sergio D�az" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Toshiba Satellite 4090DVD
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:40:22 -0400
Hi,
I just got a new Toshiba 4090DVD, replacing my good old work horse
Toshiba Tecra 8000.
I'm new to linux (RH 6), but it runed like a charm easy and simple install
on my
old tecra, now I CANT GET the display to work correctly with this new model.
It uses the TRIDENT Cyber9525.
I saw some posts that the Trydent Cyber 9382 has problems and some fixes
for it.
Being a newbie to Linux, I'm looking for the simplest of solutions to
correcting this
problem with my machine.
I will really appreciate any help regarding this matter!
Thanks a bunch!
- Sergio
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "David L. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:58:46 -0400
IceLava wrote:
>
> Got this weird prob. Not too sure whether the bug belongs to X or
> Navigator.
> everytime I load up www.ninemsn.com.au it'll close by itself.
> when I try to load it again it'll report a bus error for the new
> process.
My experience with netscape 4.6 (glibc) is that it grows like Orsen Wells
until it eats up all the available memory, then crashes -- looks like a memory
leak to me. That site seems to have a lot of graphics, which adds to the
bloat.
4.61 is a little better.
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thou say? -- George Fox.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crontab
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:11:46 -0500
Tim wrote:
>
> i'm having problems with the crontab in redhat 6.
>
> the problem seems really stupid and i don't know if its me or not.
>
> eg 1)
> i have an entry like this.
> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 8-1 * * * /path/script
> i want the script to run every 5 minutes between 8am and 1am.
> this script does not run as required.
>
> eg 2)
> if i use
> */5 8-1 * * * /path/script
> this does not work either
>
> eg 3)
> if i use
> * * * * * /path/script
> it works fine (obviously not at the intervals i require)
>
> eg 2 works fine under slackware 3.4 and 3.6, but haven't tried eg 1.
>
> any suggestions? its driving me crazy.
>
> cheers
> tim
*/1 * * * * command
works for me under RH6.0. I'm not sure what 8-1 means above.
Is it a typo? Or do you want 8-13?
--
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Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Spline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where can I find Xfree86 3.3.4 to download? help, please
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:16:50 +0300
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From: Avijit Purkayastha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: HELP: IRQ resetting problem..??
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:50:41 -0500
Hi,
When my eth0 is being configured, the wrong IRQ address is looked at. I
physically set it in /etc/conf.modules
with the correct IRQ address, but the script is not reading that i.e.
`modprobe' still looks at the wrong original
values even though conf.modules has been changed. `modprobe -c' shows
the correct value. What is over-riding
the correct values, and what other conf files should be edited to
correct this problem? I am using kernel
2.2.9-19mdk (Mandrake linux). I am setting it in conf.modules as
"options eth0 irq=3"
Appreciate any suggestions towards this.
Thanks in advance
-- Avi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mooo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:47:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-frog) wrote:
>Warp 3 came waaaay back before Win95 came out and it is _still_ being
>supported.
warp 3, Warp Connect are no longer supported except in a few
circumstances where you might have a long term support contract in
place already with IBM (ie, you cant buy one now).
Thats fair enough as the OS is quit old now, and has logically been
replaced with Warp4
The problem is that official support for Warp4 is, by IBM's own
support documents, going to be dropped soon. Don't believe me? Ask
your local rep.
I have not asked, but I imagine that long term support agreements are
still an option should your site be large enough to afford one.
As far as fixpacks are concerned, Warp4 might still have a lot of
'support' left - the trouble is that no-one actually knows (outside of
IBM I assume).
>I have no doubts about using OS/2 for at least the next 5 years. No
>questions about support. I choose to use OS/2 not to be different, but
>because it works better.
I put NT on a spare partition here because of various problems related
to using MSOffice 4.3 under OS/2 (dont even mention SS/2, I've been
there and done that - even with V1.1 - yuk!). Guess what, within 2
weeks I was using Staroffice on NT, then, after multitudes of lockups
I thought 'what have I achieved?' The answer was 'less than nothing'
so I'm now fiddling with Staroffice 5.1 under Os/2 (and linux by the
way).
Staroffice might very well turn out to the be reason I CAN stay with
OS/2, but a plethora of problems are on the horizen. Almost no
development is now going into 3rd party apps for DOS or Win3.1
(without Win32S V1.3), the logical conclusion being that everyone
apparently is using win95/98 (screams of anguish from me).
Financial apps are becoming hard to find, stock control is in the same
boat. Here in Australia, we are about to get a GST which will produce
a rush of -required- upgrades to all business software that deals with
buying and selling and the hard fact is that I have yet to find
anything that looks like it will run under Linux, DOS or OS/2 - I'm
searching, but not finding....
Another problem which has arisen very recently has been my discovery
that Novell seems to no longer even pretend to support OS/2. I have
yet to find a way to administer Netware5 via OS/2 as all the win16 and
DOS apps (which were always clunky...but sorta worked) seem to have
dissapeared. Using the 2.12 novell client for OS/2 produces some
strange problems such as not being able to view files in a directory
via the WPS (only via CMD line).
So, in conclusion :), I am still 'keepin the faith' but no matter how
hard I try I keep getting a bit frightened when I look into the
future.
Craig
'thats just normal paranoia, everyone in the universe has that...'
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From: Casey Schaufler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:36:24 -0700
Christopher Browne wrote:
> If you want to talk about formal security certifications, there are
> UNIX systems rated as high as B1 by the NSA/NIST. NT is only rated
> C2, and that is only true for version 3.51, with *networking turned
> off.*
Actually, there's a B2 UNIX (Trusted Xenix), but I don't think
TIS is selling it any more. NT's C2 evaluation-in-progress will
include homogenous networking (or so I'm told) as SGI's B1 did
in 1995. Be careful casting the networking stone as only two of
the UNIX evaluations (SGI and Cray) include networking.
--
Casey Schaufler voice: (650) 933-1634
[EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: (650) 933-0170
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:35:15 GMT
In article <7pf5ph$oca$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-frog) wrote:
> I don't buy the "light on resources" argument either. With X and GNOME
or
> KDE going, and a full suite of apps running, it runs no faster than
OS/2
> on the same machine. And if you run out of swap space...you're hosed.
It
> doesn't help that it goes on a separate partition which can't be
> dynamically grown.
Fact check: if you run out of swap in linux you usually get a message
saying ... "out of memory" (surprise) and can't start any apps until you
close something. At least that's what happens 99.99% of the time
(invented statistic).
Linux can put swap in files too, not only on partitions.
Linux can grow the swap space dynamically (but you need extra software).
--
Roberto Alsina (KDE developer, MFCH)
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vi and X11-- no permission
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:22:31 GMT
Have seen this MAGIC-COOKIE thing before..
Are you using GNOME? If yes try redhat or gnome site
for the latest version... yeah a bugfix upgrade
Jayan
"George P. Staplin" wrote:
> W.G. Unruh wrote in message ...
> >I have a weird error message from vi. If I log on as another user (su)
> every
> >time I run vi I get
> >wormhole[unruh]>vi .bashrc
> >Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> >Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
> >
> >
> >Now the fact taht the permission is wrong is not surprising, but why in the
> world
> >is vi requesting X service anyway? Note tht this error message makes no
> difference
> >as vi works perfectly anyway. Anyone know why vi calls X?
>
> See what the vi symbolic link is pointing to. First type 'which vi' this
> should give you the path to vi. Then type 'ls -l /usr/bin/vi'. This should
> report the executable. My guess is that gvim is being used instead of vim.
> You could also try typing vim instead of vi, because vi is usually a sym
> link to vim.
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From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java and linux
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:25:25 GMT
You'll get the latest linux port of Java at www.blackdown.org (JDK 1.2?)
I think kaffe comes with Redhat 6.0 / Caldera 2.2, so that's probably
all what you need for a start!
And oh, get the docs too (html/ps) from blackdown or java.sun.com
Jayan
Jill wrote:
> I have signed up for a java class. I have some limited C and C++
> experience, but I am pretty ignorant about java. I would like to use my
> linux machine, though. Can I download an interpreter or a compiler from
> some site?
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