Linux-Misc Digest #474, Volume #21 Fri, 20 Aug 99 07:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Newbie installation problem - Linux SuSE 5.3 (Sujatha Natraj)
Re: Comparison needed: *BSD vs. Linux (Miles Bader)
Setting up an FTP server? (-~=Darek M=~-)
Re: **commands : make** (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself (Sergey Smirnov)
How about the monkey (Thomas Rates)
looking for adapted LINUX distributions (Gilles RONVAL)
Re: Having a problem loggin in, need help (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Squid problem ("Gordon Fraser")
Re: HTML Apps: votes needed here! (Paul Gallagher)
Set up modem to the Cisco console port. (Knut Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lang=F8?=)
Re: module problems with SMP kernel (James Bradley)
Re: max. array size GNU C compiler... (Volker Hetzer)
API for MPEG 1 & 2 (Desmond N)
Who describes linux.. (SkAtAn)
Re: Please give me rain for my file-descriptor drought (Jon Skeet)
Re: *nix vs. MS security (John Girash)
BadCursor (Klaus Leopold)
Re: wvdial - 'modem not detected' (Charles Stroom)
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From: Sujatha Natraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie installation problem - Linux SuSE 5.3
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:58:17 +0800
ok, you can't do things this way from dos. What you need to do is run
autoboot from dos. Use loadlin.
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, CubicD wrote:
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:30:44 GMT
> From: CubicD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup
> Subject: Newbie installation problem - Linux SuSE 5.3
>
> I'm trying to install SuSE 5.3 on my laptop within my windows C drive,
> which I'm told is doable.
>
> I inserted into my laptop a boot diskette and the CDRom, but a message
> comes out saying:
>
> "Unable to open an initial console."
>
> How can I get past this barrier?
>
> TIA
>
> CubicD
> Honolulu, HI
>
>
>
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From: Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comparison needed: *BSD vs. Linux
Date: 20 Aug 1999 16:52:06 +0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) writes:
> >- The BSD's have a common "Ports" system that is somewhat analagous to
> > RPM or the Debian package system. Ports is almost certainly better
> > crafted than RPM as a source code-oriented package management
> > system; the comparison with DPKG is less clear.
>
> dpkg is convenient, ports is magical.
What does that mean, `always does the right thing even in unusual
circumstance', or `cross your fingers because there's no hope of
actually figuring out what's going on'?
[I'm really curious -- I just started using debian, and am very
impressed with how painless things are with dpkg...]
> OpenBSD is somewhat more basic, but boasts being one of the few Unix
> OSes with boatloads of crypto out of the box. OpenBSD also lays claim
> to being ``secure,'' though most of the BSDs are catching up.
Of course, `lays claim to being' and `is' are two very, very different
things. I was under the impression that one of `OpenBSD's main
strengths was sending out lots of press releases...
Cheers,
-Miles
--
Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over,
pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
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From: -~=Darek M=~- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting up an FTP server?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:44:21 -0700
I am on a single user desktop here. It isnt networked with
any other machine except the internet.
I installed the wu_ftp rpm and when I ftp to localhost I
get the wu ftp server ready prompt. But I do not seem to
have ANY account setup for login. I read that right "out of
the box" wu_ftp has set up default anonymous and guest
accounts. I haven't edited the /etc/ftpaccess file. My
question is, do I need to create the accounts in the system
for the ftp server to use them? Like go and create a
private ftp account in, say, linuxconf? Or can I specify
the user login and passwords and privledges in the conf
files.
I tried to ftp to muself and only the 'ftp' account worked
but even after I logged in, I got no directory listing nor
where I was.
PS: I was ftp'ing as root, maybe that's the problem. But I
still need help setting it up. I tried to search the wu ftp
site for docs but, surprisingly enough, found none. Only an
FAQ that wasn't really any help to me.
I guess the first thing I need cleared up is: If I want to
set up a private account on my ftp, say login-gpl pass-
replays, do I need to create that account in my Linux
system?
Thanx for any info or a pointer to a helpful HOWTO. The
Redhat Linux unleashed book was of no help.
Cheers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: **commands : make**
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:01:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You install 'make', of course.
Seriously, you install the language tools
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:56:20 +0000, Ika Prasetyawan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I tried to install LICQ into my machine and I've gone as far as
>configuration and ready to compile the source code. But when I tried to
>launch command : "make". It says "command not found". There must be some
>development tools I have not installed yet.
>
>Anybody got any suggestion as what to install before you can use this
>"make" commands.
>
>I am a newbie and just got Mandrake6.0 on my machine working about 1
>week ago.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-ika-
>
Lew Pitcher
JOAT-in-training
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From: Sergey Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:08:12 +0400
IceLava wrote:
>
> i juz DLed Communicator 4.61 & it's still the same. moreover, the xterm
> which i use to launch communicator into background will report a bus
> error for the netscape process.
> [2]+ Bus error ./netscape
>
> i turned off Java & it works now. does it mean I'm missing a JVM in
No. JAVA is embedded in Netscape.
> Linux? it works fine when I use communicator in Windows.
--
Regards,
Sergey Smirnov.
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From: Thomas Rates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How about the monkey
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:22:48 -0400
Hello all,
Have a few old crappy 386s with 4 megs of ram that not much can be
done to. I want get rid of Minix on them and install Monkey Linux on
them. Since nothing else will run on them except old distros and
Smalllinux that's pretty much my only choice. Although Monkey would run
fine on them with DOS I'd like to just install it standalone. Anybody
try this successfully? If so lend a hand to a greiving Linux Sys admin.
Thsnks in advance for your help.
Thomas Rates,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Gilles RONVAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: looking for adapted LINUX distributions
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:37:49 +0200
Hi,
LINUX is a new toy for me and, to begin with at work and at home, I
would
like to know which of the available distributions to choose, according
to
the context. The different cases I am interested in are following:
(1) at work, a multi-processor PC used in developing and running
scientific applications;
(2) at work, a PC used as an active network equipment like a switch;
(3) at work, a PC used as an internet or intranet server;
(1-3 bis) a Sun workstation in the same cases as above;
(4) at home, my PC used with applications like Star Office and
Netscape Communicator, connecting to internet via an internal
USRobotics MODEM, and used sometime to compose MIDI music with
a Sound Blaster AWE 64.
A distribution is good, in my opinion, if :
- it gives all what you need and only what you need;
- it is bug-free;
- it is easy to install and manage for any UNIX administrator;
- it is documented at least on the web;
- successive releases respect at least backward compatibility;
- the distributor is not going to move away tomorrow without leaving any
address...
That does not exist, probably, but thank you very much if you can help
me in any way to find something approaching.
Gilles Ronval
Electricit� De France
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Having a problem loggin in, need help
Date: 20 Aug 1999 08:01:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John McKown wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:17:54 +0100, Advanced one corporation
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm having a problem loggin in. After I have logged in to my localhost by
>>typing in root and then my password, this message appears:
>>[root@localhost /root#
>>
>>What does this message mean and what do I type.
>>Help is appreciated.
>>Thanks
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
>Not meaning to be tacky, but I really think you could use a book on UNIX!
Maybe I've been at this too long, but I think this is a wonderful
problem to have. Linux has gotten so good that people can install
a multi user system without knowing what's going on.
Why, when I was a sprat, we had to trudge ten miles in a blizzard
clutching a handful of floppies with GCC on them, and debug
endless SLS install problems by the light of a greasy tallow candle...
Type
startx
and see what happens.
Cameron
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From: "Gordon Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Squid problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:23:31 +0200
Hi!
Using Squid 2/PATCH2 (SuSe 6.1 Kernerl 2.2.5) I get this error message once
every minute:
clientReadRequest: FD 13 Invalid Request
What does this mean??
Thanks,
Gordon
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: HTML Apps: votes needed here!
From: Paul Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Aug 1999 05:51:54 -0400
I don't think there are a lot of WYSIWYG editors for Linux. CoffeeCup
has recently released a port (pretty good-looking, too) of their
editor, in RPMs. Don't recall whether you can actually "drag" columns
and rows, as in PageMill, the editor does have some great table
capabilities.
Check out linuxberg, http://www.linuxberg.com.
P
====================================
EARTH FIRST!
(we'll log the other planets later)
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ICQ: 16556555
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From: Knut Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lang=F8?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Set up modem to the Cisco console port.
Date: 20 Aug 1999 10:28:36 +0200
Hi there, I have a problem that bugs me. I'm trying to set up a modem
on the console port of our Cisco 7206 router for remote configuring,
but i fail to set it up right. I have 2 Multitech "Multimodem II"
modems. I am using minicom, modem settings: 9600 baud, 8N1.
7206 <-> Rolled RJ-45 cable <-> modem <---> modem...
I wonder if anyone here have tried something similar?
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From: James Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: module problems with SMP kernel
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:22:50 -0400
Ok, so I figured this one out myself... "set version information for
modules" and SMP don't get along; as soon as I turned off MODVERSIONS, it
worked fine.
Now there's another issue: when I boot in SMP mode, PPP don't work no
more. The syslog is uninformative, but running minicom it appears that the
modem responses aren't coming back through the serial port correctly.
Commands I send get to the modem (I can take it off/on hook, dial out,
etc.), but responses are truncated at best. This is probably why the ppp
connect script fails. Anyone know why this happens? Some kind of problem
sharing the serial port between processors??
James
James Bradley wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I just installed a dual-Celeron board (which is working fine), and Linux
> comes up, sees both procs... all seems to be well, EXCEPT: whenever a
> module loads, I get errors like this:
>
> modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
> __global_cli
> modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
> __global_save_flags
> modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
> __global_restore_flags
> modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
> __global_sti
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From: Volker Hetzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: max. array size GNU C compiler...
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:04:07 +0200
EKK wrote:
>
> What is the maximum array size, using GNU C compiler?
>
> It looks like g77 complains after about 12000000.
%cat tst.c
char X[120000000];
%gcc -c -o tst.o tst.c
%
no problem here (HP-UX).
Greetings!
Volker
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From: Desmond N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: API for MPEG 1 & 2
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:37:26 +0000
Does anyone know of any Software Development Kit has API for running
MPEG-1 and MPEG2 files.
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From: SkAtAn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Who describes linux..
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:07:55 +0200
Who describes the linux women :-)?
OS Women
Imagine if women behaved like Windows
By: Ben Hanks
If OS's were women:
UNIX:
She's very objective, logical, and intelligent. She's ugly but she looks
ok with lots of makeup. She's very tidy and a keeps a clean house. She
only speaks ancient Greek and only listens to you if you use perfect
grammar. She's very emotionally stable and refuses to argue. People
consult her on really important things because they know they can depend
on her.
Mac OS:
She's even tempered and only blows up if you do something really stupid
or if there's something seriously wrong with her system. She's beautiful
and improves with age. She's very stylish and sets trends. She never
lies. She is easy to talk to and you can generally get her to do what
you want without much of a fuss. She's a good communicator and likes to
talk to friends. She's flexible and likes change. She's always nice to
people when they come to visit. People love her when they get to know
her and she has devoted friends everywhere. She smiles at you when you
turn her on.
Windows:
She has a nasty temper and often blows up at you for no reason. You have
to fight with her to get her to do anything and she insists that you do
things the hard way.
She's extremely jealous and has been known to slip poison into the
drinks of other women who come to visit. She even fights with her
friends and it can take hours to get them to listen to each other. Even
then, they only recognize each
other when they feel like it. She has many psychological problems which
carried over from her DOS childhood, although she claims to be over it.
Her house is immaculate until you look in the closets and storage spaces
where she hides all
the crap she doesn't want people to see. Her house is full of nifty
appliances and home electronics but you're lucky if you can get anything
to work. Nothing in her house is where you would expect it to be; the
kitchen is on the roof and
the bathroom is through a trap door under a rug. She throws a tantrum
if you rearrange the furniture. If she gets really mad she makes you go
outside, ring the doorbell and wait for her to calm down and let you
back in. She deteriorates with
age and gets even more ornery the older she gets.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Please give me rain for my file-descriptor drought
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:34:30 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We run a rather busy Linux server with over 100 apache virtual
> servers, MySQL, QMail etc. Naturally, the server is beginning
> to complain about file-descriptor drought, particularly since
> we need each virtual server to keep individual logs, which means
> ever more open files. We've tried to look at the Apache and Linux
> documentaiton, but it seems a bit vague as to how we can successfully
> up (and up significantly) the number of file descriptors. We
> increased the value in /proc/src/kernel/file-max and
> /proc/src/kernel/inode-max but weren't sure what to do with the
> values in /proc/src/kernel/file-nr and inode-nr. Whatever, neither
> of these really appeared to work correctly.
>
> With full logging switched on we had 7000 open files. Removing web
> access logging took us back down to only 700 open files which has
> solved the problem, but of course switching off access logging is not
> a long term viable option. We have previously had to turn off error
> logging because of the same problem. When we hit a file-descriptor
> drought our CGI falls over, amongst other things. Not good :(
>
> What are we missing?
Some suggestions:
o Upgrade to kernel 2.2.7 (I use this one - there may be problems with
it, but I haven't found any)
o In rc.local, do echo 16384 > /proc/sys/fs/file-max
echo 65536 > /proc/sys/fs/inode-max
o Try logging to one file, then run a script to split that into different
files for the different domains periodically
o Find out which files are being opened - logging shouldn't take 63 files
per virtual domain!
Hope this helps.
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: 18 Aug 1999 18:07:14 -0500
In comp.os.linux.misc Christopher Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I'm taking a class on operating systems. During the last class, the
: instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
: Microsoft OS's. His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux) is
: free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure. Random people can
: hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the interrupts
: and stuff, since it's a free OS.
No offence, but unless he's worked at one of the closed shops (MS's Windows
division, DEC's VMS etc) and seen the code, how can an OS prof make any
statement about that OS, or deal with it in an academic environment? It'd
be like teaching biology without ever having studied internal anatomy,
neurology, endocrinology etc, and going on nothing but behavioural and
clinical drug studies, i.e. all you have to go on are surface phenomena.
So, unless he's worked at MS and seen the source code, your prof doesn't know
anything more about WindowsXX than anyone else and has no business making
such statements. (Now, if he had actual research to back up an empirically-
based claim, that'd be one thing. But he's making a logical statement with
just plain not enough information.) My recommendation: try to take the
course in a different term (it's probably too late), with a different prof.
IIRC, Minix was created *specifically* so that people studying operating
systems academically _had_one_ whose internals they could get they grubby
hands into, *because without the source all you can do is guess* about what's
going on inside. & Linux can trace itself (at least conceptually) to Minix.
jg
p.s. note: I'm not making any statement here about the relative merits of one
OS v. another in practice. But in an _academic_ teaching environment (as
opposed to a technical one) there's no choice: an OS w/o source is useless.
--
"don't listen when you're told about the best days in your life Spirit of
a useless old expression, it means passing time until you die." the West
/\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\/
-- John Girash -- girash @ cfa.harvard.edu - http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --
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From: Klaus Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x,linux.dev.x11
Subject: BadCursor
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:13:32 +0200
Hello!
I=B4ve compiled a quite old (1993) X-program under SuSE Linux 6.1. The
Makefile ended with no error-messages. When I started the compiled
program following error occurred:
-
Font 6x12 is not available. Using
-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-110-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 instead.
Font 8x13 is not available. Using
-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-100-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1 instead.
Font micro is not available. Using
-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-60-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1 instead.
X Error of failed request: BadCursor (invalid Cursor parameter)
Major opcode of failed request: 2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes)
Resource id in failed request: 0x5a5a5a
Serial number of failed request: 1229
Current serial number in output stream: 1488
-
Does this mean that there is something wrong with the cursor? I compiled
the same sources under Sun Solaris 7 -> it works fine!
Is there someone who can tell me what problem I have and how I can solve
it?
Many thanks in advance, Klaus.....
-- =
Klaus Leopold
University Klagenfurt
Institute of Information Technology Tel: ++43(0)463/2700-863
Research group: Systemintegration Fax: ++43(0)463/2700-867
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://colossus.itec.uni-klu.ac.at/~klaus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Stroom)
Subject: Re: wvdial - 'modem not detected'
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:13:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:31:05 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <wgu20.934923968@riemann>, on 08/17/99
> at 09:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W.G. Unruh) said:
>
>>>Hoping wvdial would help me with my ppp logon problems, I installed it
>>>today only to have it cough up a 'modem not detected' message. It runs
>>>through setting up the script and the values in wvdial.conf look ok but no
>>>go.
>
>>I have never been able to make wvdial work. Do not knwo why. For step by
>>step instructions on setting up ppp, see
>>axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
>
I followed the SuSE instructions straight out of the book:
> xhost +localhost
> su -
> export DIDPLAY=:0
> wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
> vi /etc/ppp/options
lock
debug
ZZ
i.e. /etc/ppp/options is a 2-line file.
> wvdial.tcl
fill in the settings, phone# etc.
press "test" to test
> wvdial
and that was all and the connection worked in 5 minutes (contrary
to my previous RH installation which I had to configure manually
with a chat, pap and whatever script).
So far I have found only one snag with wvdial and that is that if
I kill the pppd, wvidial will reconnect itself. So in order to stop it,
use "wvdial -stop" (I forgot that, so it kept the phone for a whole night
once).
I have made wvdial with the sticky bit set, so I don't need to be
root to start it.
Regards
--
Charles Stroom
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url: http://www.stroom-schreurs.demon.nl/
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