Linux-Misc Digest #510, Volume #21 Sun, 22 Aug 99 21:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself (Johan Kullstam)
Re: man2html (Kim Carter)
Re: Who describes linux.. ("Jill")
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (postmaster@[127.0.0.1])
Re: can only ftp myself? - solved ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD??? (William Wueppelmann)
Application development strategy - rev.0.1 (Mario Miyojim)
Latest Kernel... WHERE? (Sir Esteban Patricio)
Inetd errors (Danny Aldham)
Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor (Sean Akers)
Re: Interested in using Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: win95 partition ownership? (Michael McConnell)
Re: You Can switch from any OS to Windows and be happy! Windows it is for you!
(Fyodor Dudnik)
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself (Lee Revell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
Subject: Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor
Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:27:23 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is a well-known problem with particular versions of Windows 95 and the
K6-2 and K6-3 at 350 MHz or above. Apparently, some sequence of instructions
peculiar to that version of W95 result in an internal timing problem. If you
look at AMD's web site, they claim that the problem has never been found in
anything other than those specific versions of W95. All the complaints about
the K6 in this newsgroup recently make me wonder.
On the other hand, I've heard for a long time that K6 processors run hotter than
Intels, so maybe the problem lies there instead.
--
Williamsport Area Computer Club <http://www.sunlink.net/wacc>
Susquehanna Valley Amateur Astronomers
<http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2999/svaa.html>
Personal Home Page <http://woodstock.csrlink.net/~jshaffer>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 19:05:36 -0400
IceLava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Got this weird prob. Not too sure whether the bug belongs to X or
> Navigator.
> everytime I load up www.ninemsn.com.au it'll close by itself.
> when I try to load it again it'll report a bus error for the new
> process.
it works fine for me using netscape-communicator-4.61. i have java
and javascript turned on.
> anybody know wat's this all about?
dunno. sometimes netscape just up and dies.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim Carter)
Subject: Re: man2html
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:00:34 +0059
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone seen a man2html utility that works with all sorts of Linux
>
> as well as Unix man pages?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil Zanella
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
IME (and I've tried several different alternatives), none is perfect in all
cases. Best I've found is rman
rman (Rosetta Man)
(ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:/ucb/people/phelps/tcltk/rman.tar.Z)
Note rman is not good with formatted pages (gets confused in lists).
Kim
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From: "Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who describes linux..
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:32:07 -0700
Linux - jealous of her older sister UNIX, and always wears her clothes and
lipstick, and tries to act like her. She is slowly succeeding in stealing
her boyfriends.
SkAtAn wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Who describes the linux women :-)?
>
>
>OS Women
>Imagine if women behaved like Windows
>
>By: Ben Hanks
>
>If OS's were women:
>
>UNIX:
>She's very objective, logical, and intelligent. She's ugly but she looks
>ok with lots of makeup. She's very tidy and a keeps a clean house. She
>only speaks ancient Greek and only listens to you if you use perfect
>grammar. She's very emotionally stable and refuses to argue. People
>consult her on really important things because they know they can depend
>on her.
>
>Mac OS:
>She's even tempered and only blows up if you do something really stupid
>or if there's something seriously wrong with her system. She's beautiful
>and improves with age. She's very stylish and sets trends. She never
>lies. She is easy to talk to and you can generally get her to do what
>you want without much of a fuss. She's a good communicator and likes to
>talk to friends. She's flexible and likes change. She's always nice to
>people when they come to visit. People love her when they get to know
>her and she has devoted friends everywhere. She smiles at you when you
>turn her on.
>
> Windows:
>She has a nasty temper and often blows up at you for no reason. You have
>to fight with her to get her to do anything and she insists that you do
>things the hard way.
> She's extremely jealous and has been known to slip poison into the
>drinks of other women who come to visit. She even fights with her
>friends and it can take hours to get them to listen to each other. Even
>then, they only recognize each
> other when they feel like it. She has many psychological problems which
>carried over from her DOS childhood, although she claims to be over it.
>Her house is immaculate until you look in the closets and storage spaces
>where she hides all
> the crap she doesn't want people to see. Her house is full of nifty
>appliances and home electronics but you're lucky if you can get anything
>to work. Nothing in her house is where you would expect it to be; the
>kitchen is on the roof and
> the bathroom is through a trap door under a rug. She throws a tantrum
>if you rearrange the furniture. If she gets really mad she makes you go
>outside, ring the doorbell and wait for her to calm down and let you
>back in. She deteriorates with
> age and gets even more ornery the older she gets.
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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:06:15 -0500
The only answer that makes sense in response to the question in the subject
line:
NO!
NO SOUP FOR YOU!
Whatever....
--
GK
FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 11
There are 28 Processes with 111 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 21m 57s 140ms.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: can only ftp myself? - solved
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:33:56 -0400
well, I fixed it but I don't rightly know how. I think the scripts were
all in order but I decided to reboot (again) and this time, I was back to
the appropriate setup.
What was happening was that my laptop using PPP had an identity-crisis: it
thought it had the same ip address as my desktop.
This occurred as I tried to figure out how to get my pcmcia ethernet card
working; I was experimenting with trying to hook it up to the wire my
desktop is on. I didn't succeed and so decided to put off further trials
for another day. Apparently some setting or other really stuck.
I'll sit down tonight and try to figure out what the issue was. I do know
I find netcfg rather confusing and intend to stick with linuxconf and
direct editing of files.
F.
In <37c0756b$6$qnivfs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/22/99
at 06:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>In <37bfcab8$4$qnivfs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/22/99
> at 05:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>>Hello.
>>I've misconfigured something that used to work ok. (I'm going to swear
>>off using netcfg!!!)
>>When I log on PPP onto the network from my laptop and try to do an ftp to
>>my desktop, it somehow only sees the laptop. Somewhere I must have told
>>the laptop it has the same identity as my desktop.
>Can someone help me here? Somehow I've gotten my laptop convinced it has
>the same ip address as my desktop so FTP (over PPP) always loops back to
>the laptop. Something is set in some script somewhere but I cannot figure
>out where; probably /etc/hosts but I'm reasonably certain I've got those
>parameters right.
>Where should I look? I'd really appreciate the help.
>F.
>-----------------------------------------------------------
> Felmon John Davis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Union College / Schenectady, NY
> - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
> OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
>-----------------------------------------------------------
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Union College / Schenectady, NY
- insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:12:02 GMT
In our last episode (Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:42:19 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Eric Wright said:
>I ordered the mega-pack of Linux flavors from www.linuxmall.com last
>week. I saw in the pack description that FreeBSD 3.2 was
>included....but it said that it wasn't actually Linux.
>
>I'm confused. It's a unix-type OS just like Linux, right? Granted it
>ISN'T Linux....it wasn't part of Linus' project years back....but it's
>technically almost like Linux, right?
>
>I've tried finding the answers on the 'net but all I found were pages
>that said there was a certain animousity betwenn Linux groups and
>FreeBSD groups (another WTF). I'm lost here.
>
>Can someone explain to me (in layman's terms, so a relative newbie can
>understand).
FreeBSD and Linux are two of several free Unixes. They are basically the
open source equivalents of Solaris and HP-UX -- different flavours of the
same basic system. There are differences in how Linux and FreeBSD are
written (Linux has a much wider base of contributors) and licensed (FreeBSD
has a much more liberal license vis a vis derivative and modified works)
and there are other differences as well, but to the end user they are more
or less the same thing (inasmuch as any two Unixes are the same).
Both can be downloaded for free or purchased inexpensively, have publically
available source code and are very good systems.
>What are the strengths and weaknesses of FreeBSD compared to Linux
>(any flavor of Linux)?
Linux has wider hardware support, more Mac/Windows style applications
(though Linux binaries can be made to run on FreeBSD, and whether this is a
strength or weakness depends upon your point of view), runs on more
hardware platforms, comes with (IMHO) a generally better toolkit (e.g. the
ls that ships with most Linux distros has useful options like --color that
are lacking in the default FreeBSD ls, though again it's not a big deal to
install GNU ls on FreeBSD), and a larger user community to support it. I
find it easier to administer, but my FreeBSD experience is limited.
FreeBSD is supposed to be more robust, especially under heavier loads, and
probably sees more use as a high-volume server than Linux. It's harder to
get new/unusual software for FreeBSD, but it can run Linux binaries. It has
a more liberal license if you want to incorporate it into a proprietary
project, it's optimized for the x86 platform. It's generally considered to
be a more mature and stable OS with a slower development cycle (Linux seems
to produce a kernel update at least once a month).
Ultimately, the biggest difference is probably one of philosophy.
Personally, I like the whole spirit of Linux and the Linux community better
than FreeBSD, but both have their good points and a lot to offer.
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:40:42 -0600
From: Mario Miyojim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Application development strategy - rev.0.1
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Open Source Application Development Strategy - rev.0.1
1. Introduction
I have been rereading Richard Stallmans's `GNU manifesto' an understood
that he was envisaging a world where programmers could freely exchange
source code, and that the people at large should be able to obtain
software at low cost, not necessarily free. The `GNU manifesto' has
generated a successful body of software, but I do not know whether its
momentum and appeal will continue forever. Stallman's original action,
in summary, was caused by greedy corporations hoarding source code and
charging licenses to use the binary at high prices, acquiring wealth and
power at the expense of the rest of the world. He saw a serious social
problem building up, so he decided to counteract that trend.
I am proposing a way to address the original problem that gave way to
the `GNU manifest'. A few months ago, it might have been too bold, but
now, I think there is a possibility to be accepted by the world society.
This idea, if implemented, will produce profound changes in the way
people view industry and corporations. It will eventually ripple into
all industries. Let us introduce it initially into a subset: the
application software development industry.
2. Example
2.1 Real situation
Let us take, for example, the Opera browser, developed by the Norwegian
company OperaSoft. This software has received positive opinions from
everybody, due to its good design. It has two problems, from the Linux
users' viewpoint: its license costs $35.00, and it does not run under
Linux. The reason for being so is that the company wishes to maintain
the source code proprietary, so it is having difficulties to generate
the Linux version under a traditional contract due to cost. I have no
idea how many licenses Opera has sold, but I don't think that they sold
many millions to Windows users, because Internet Explorer and Netscape
are available at zero price. I paid $35.00 for the Windows version,
which I do not use, as an incentive for their Linux version. Let us
assume that they sold half a million licenses so far. Then, they had a
revenue of $17.5 million in license fees, with which they are paying
their personnel and the contractors for porting to other platforms.
If the contractors for Linux were being well paid, I imagine that we
would have a working Linux version for the Opera browser already.
2.2 Imaginary scenario
Now, imagine that the OperaSoft company had taken a radically different
path two years ago. Imagine that they had opened the source to the
Internet, invited the entire world to participate in adding features and
removing bugs from their initial design, and that they allowed a copy to
be downloaded at one dollar initially and at twenty cents per upgrade.
Assuming that there are about 100 million computer users in the world,
I imagine that half of them would risk one dollar to have a better
browser, without much thinking. I would. In this case, Opera would have
a revenue of $50 million. To encourage the worldwide open source team to
continue contributing to this and future projects, Opera could put aside
let us say, 30% of this revenue to reward the contributors. If 1000
persons contributed equally to the project, then each person could earn
15 million / 1000 = $15,000 for having participated in the project so far.
However, in every project of this size, there will be major contributors
and minor contributors. The project leader would then do an arbitration
and find that the largest contributor deserves 10% and the smallest
contributor deserves 0.02% of the pie. In this case, the major contributor
would receive a reward of $1.5 million, and the minor contributor would
receive a reward of $3,000. All the other 998 contributor would receive
some value between these two. Because there are too many people involved,
then the project leader would play it safe, and expose to the 1,000 team
members the criteria used to reach those reward values. If the leader does
not do that, then he(she) might be risking to lose the respect of the
team members, who would no longer contribute, until the injustice is
undone, or until the leader be replaced by someone they trust.
Suppose that all 50 million users decide to buy the first upgrade, then
they will pay $0.20 x 50 million = $10 million. A portion of this will be
distributed to the contributors in the development, too.
2.3 The differences
Essentially, two parameters stand out in this hypothetical story:
(1) A much lower unit price to make it attractive to average consumers,
(2) No need to hire regular employees.
Only one or a few persons having the initial idea would be required to
arbitrate what changes will be inserted in the next version to be made
public, and manage the money. An immediate consequence if this story
became reality, is that OperaSoft would have created 1,000 jobs without
painful admission interviews and no costs up front. The company had a
lot more earnings than in the traditional model, and the product came
out for practical use faster, for all platforms. Would it beat Internet
Explorer and Netscape in quality and time to market? I bet it would.
I do not know the reasons for the Mozilla project taking long to generate
a product, but I think one of them is a lack of financial incentive.
In my idea of how it should be, there would be no traditional company as
middle entity. There would be the development project as the long-lasting
entity, and no owner, just like the Apache, or the Linux projects. The
project leaders and contributors would gravitate around the project, but
would participate in it as long as they have any contribution to make,
otherwise they are allowed to gravitate away to other projects or personal
matters, no questions asked. The life of the project is then dissociated
from the lives of the persons working on it. A meritocracy indeed.
Therefore, in the case of the example, if there was a revenue of $50 million,
the entire value will be justly distributed to all direct and indirect
participants in the project, and the information will be OPEN to all
concerned, to guarantee continuity.
3. Main component for implementation in real life
One US dollar or twenty cents are much closer to the cost of a bank check
or credit card transaction cost, than a regular commercial transaction.
I do not how much about credit card transaction costs; let us assume
that it is ten cents of a US dollar. Banks and financial houses still
tolerate occasional low-value transactions because the average value
is much higher. In the case of the above hypothetical sales strategy,
the average value will be less than one dollar, against which banks and
credit card companies may raise a barrier.
To harmonize the real world with our hypothetical development methodology,
we would need to create a trusted entity, that I will call OSB (Open
Source Bank).
The majority of functions of the OSB would be similar to those of a
regular commercial bank: maintain accounts, transfer values among accounts,
accept deposits, honor withdrawals, interact with other banks and
clearinghouses, issue account reports, etc.
The OSB needs to be radically new in the following aspects:
1) Some of its accounts are not corporate accounts, but project accounts,
that is, they handle money related to open source projects.
2) It will handle small values per transaction, because those will
the basis of its operation.
3) It will interact closely with open source project leaders, regarding
distribution of open source earnings to project contributors, who will
have personal accounts in the same bank.
4) The project accounts will be open to all concerned, i.e., the leader,
the contributors, perhaps even to the potential buyers of products.
This will severely reduce the possibility of frauds. Everybody will
know at any time how many sales were made so far, how much has been
distributed to contributors, to the leader, to the bank, taxes, etc.
With the concept of open source project account, projects may survive
through many generations of leaders and contributors. Projects would have
longer lives than small enterprises, especially because they will become
stronger as they attract more contributors, who will introduce features
to grant it a longer life.
Projects without a perspective of growth will not live long enough to
open an account in the OSB.
I have considered creating a new currency, which would be called OSC
(open source credit, or currency) to dissociate values from the US dollar,
but do not see an immediate necessity for this concept. It might
facilitate the valorization of products and contributions in countries
outside the US, but I am not well versed in international economy. If
anyone knows better, please comment.
4. Potential consequences of implementing this proposal
1) Good ideas become products quickly with highest quality without
traditional corporate intervention.
2) Motivate and sustain a large pool of contributors in the whole world,
some of them dedicated full time to open source projects.
3) Persons with an Open Source Contributor credit card will be recognized
all over the world.
4) A new important role will emerge: that of Open Source Banker, due
to the importance of the OSB to maintain the profile and stability
of open source projects.
5) Projects that cannot get traditional funding but have social value
will be able to jump start.
6) People with computer knowledge will find on the Internet a site
announcing open source application projects classified by area of
interest:
health-oriented, mission-critical, industrial, research, networking,
entertainment, etc. In this site, there will be no discrimination
regarding computer language, operating system, dbms, visa status,
location, education level, availability, anything. All of them will be
telecommuting, so participants can be on several projects simultaneously
depending on their interest and availability, and no questions will be
asked when you join or quit a project. You can reuse a programming
tecnique you invented as many times as necessary, and projects will pay
for it if the contribution is accepted.
7) Large projects requiring improvement through research in depth will be
possible, because graduate students could earn titles with research work
for this purpose. The choice to contribute will be from the researcher
and not his(her) advisor. If there is a payback during the researching
period, it will be as good as a traditional research grant.
8) Major contributors may evolve to become project leaders, and project
leaders may become contributors to other projects.
9) Experienced project leaders may become coaches to project leader
candidates.
This document underwent a revision on August 22, 1999, based on comments
from reader Michael Fowler in comp.os.linux.misc.
I request further comments from the community at large.
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From: Sir Esteban Patricio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Latest Kernel... WHERE?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:30:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where do I find the latest STABLE kernel??? Do any sites post it in an
RPM format by chance?
Alao, what is the latest version number??? I have 2.2.5-15....
Thanks in advanse,
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://esteban.faithweb.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Inetd errors
Date: 22 Aug 1999 19:52:54 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
I have a Redhat5.2 box that occasionally gives errors from inetd. Killing
& restarting inetd solves the problem, but that requires a trip to site.
Telnet & ftp are no available when I see this problem.
Errors in /var/log/messages are :
inetd[32803] : getpwnam : user : No such user
and
inetd[292] /etc/inetd.con : too many open files
Any help is appreciated.
--
Danny Aldham Providing Certified Internetworking Solutions to Business
www.postino.com E-Mail, Web Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Akers)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
Subject: Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:39:41 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> Has anyone else experienced a system freeze with this processor on RH6.0
> ???
>
> Since upgrading my machine I have been trying to fathom problems where
> my system locks up - no error message, nothing. This usually occurs
> during X sessions when I'm performing a large disk operation (copying a
> 70 Meg file).
>
> I've seen other similar reports, and this processor seems to be the
> common factor.
>
> Can anyone confirm this ?
>
> - Rob
> (remove spam deterrent from E-Mail address)
>
I've been running with AMD K6/2 processors for about a year with no
problems whatsoever with SuSE 5.3 and 6.0.
Cheers,
Sean Akers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Interested in using Linux
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:48:46 +0059
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:52:52 -0400, Alan Alfonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.linuxmall.com
>>http://www.infomagic.com
>>http://www.redhat.com
>>http://www.debian.org
>>
>
> You can buy the cheap GPL versions in the UK -
> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk is good and cheap.
Don't forget fast. When I recently ordered Mandrake 6.0 GPL (For the pentium
optimizations as much as anything else) I posted the order on the Wednesday
afternoon, and it was waiting for me when I got home from work the Friday of
the same week. In other words, very nearly by return of post.
They also do the full price stuff, so go take a looky...
--
____________________________________________________________________
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not 'who' you are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | But who you are becoming.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Goethe
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: win95 partition ownership?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:40:24 +0100
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Doug O'Leary wrote:
> Hey;
>
> I've got a limited amount of space on my Linux partition and about 800
> megs on one of my win95 partitions. What I'd like to do is install
> Oracle for Linux via Linux on the win95 partition; however, I can't seem
> to change the ownership of a directory - says something like "Operation
> not supported". I've also tried chmod 777 dir; however, that doesn't
> work either.
>
> Is there a way to allow a non root user access to a directory on a win95
> partition? Or, failing that, is there a way to mount the partition with
> permissions for someone other than root?
>
> Any tips will be greatly appreciated.
Try making a file big enough to hold Oracle (plus a bit extra for good
measure) and formatting the file Ext2 ...and mount it as a loop-back
partition. That way it lives in the Windows area, but gives you all the
features of Ext2. Also, since it's not flipping bits in the FAT area of the
real partition, it'll be far faster than using the Windows partition
directly.
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell
Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amush.cx/linux/ Fax: +44-8701-600807
Eridani: Your PC doesn't need Windows or Gates.
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From: Fyodor Dudnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: You Can switch from any OS to Windows and be happy! Windows it is for you!
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:01:53 -0200
In article <7pf5ph$oca$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-frog) wrote:
> [...]
--
With best regards, Fyodor G. Dudnik
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From: Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:44:05 GMT
IceLava wrote:
>
> Got this weird prob. Not too sure whether the bug belongs to X or
> Navigator.
> everytime I load up www.ninemsn.com.au it'll close by itself.
> when I try to load it again it'll report a bus error for the new
> process.
>
> anybody know wat's this all about?
I have something similar - once in a while netscape will stop responding
and my CPU use shoots up to 100% and stays there until i kill -9
netscape. I suspect it is Java-related, it has not happened since i
turned off Java. Netscape is a prety shoddy piece of software in
general - you can't copy and paste the normal X way, you have to select
the text, Edit | Copy, then Edit | Paste, just like in MS Windows. I
would use IE in a heartbeat if it were ever ported to linux.
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