Linux-Misc Digest #552, Volume #21 Thu, 26 Aug 99 23:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Tcl/Tk. I want to learn it. (William Burrow)
Re: Problems with networking and modules (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Re: Internet access with ASDL (Ken Garland)
procreation and Choice (Richard Kulisz)
Re: Can Linux read NTFS? ("Nobody U. Know")
Re: Linux SMP question ("Nobody U. Know")
Re: Linux viruses? (Chris Mahmood)
Re: No headers? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: New Hard Drive.... (Leonard Evens)
Pi6000 driver (Andrew)
Re: VMware - wow! (John Thompson)
Re: Script to preload netscape? (Ken Pizzini)
Re: netscape 4.51 for linux (Jeff Hall)
Re: sendmail/email question ("John Drohan")
My Linux crashes more often than M$ (kev)
Re: Max files sizes under ext2? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: procreation and Choice (Yury Donskoy)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Yury Donskoy)
Re: Best language for graphical apps? (Miles Bader)
Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Michel Catudal)
SiS Chipset ("FAN")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Tcl/Tk. I want to learn it.
Date: 27 Aug 1999 00:04:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:30:59 GMT,
Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm new to Linux. Lets get that strait. I've had it for almost two weeks
...song&dance...
>frontend for my app that I want to port to Linux. Now I know it's not
>*visual* and I like that but can someone tell me where I can get EVERYTHING
>I need to make apps in Tcl/Tk and where to download them all. As well as
>some good tutorials since I've never even seen Tcl/Tk code yet but I want
>tutorials that go beyond the basics.
Visit:
http://www.scriptics.com
>2.3.13. Thanks for any reply but please e-mail it to me instaed of posting
>it :)
Too late now.
BTW, there is some kind of ``visual'' tool for Tcl/Tk. Saw it mentioned
in Ousterhouts book. Get a copy of that as well.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: Re: Problems with networking and modules
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:27:32 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Johnson:
|> RHX (where X<=6.0) comes with an old tulip.c than doesn't work well with
|> the Netgear cards. Eg, the tulip.c with RH6.0 is dated 5/23/98. I use one
|> dated 2/99 and everything works fine. Go get you a newer one at:
|> http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html
|>
|> You'll need to compile it and replace tulip.o with the newly compiled
|> module.
Anybody know offhand if this might work with the (to date unresponsive) Netgear
EA-201-C ISA card I'm trying? None of the TurboLinux 3.6 (kernel 2.2.9) drivers
(including the Tulip) seemed to grok this Netgear card. There's also no mention
of it specifically in what I found at the Becker site, AFAICT.
--
Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS *
Pardon the bogus email domain (dseg etc.) in place for spambots.
Really it's (wyrd) at raytheon, dotted with com. DO NOT SPAM IT.
Standard Disclaimer: These are my opinions not Raytheon Company.
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From: Ken Garland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet access with ASDL
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:30:58 GMT
thanks for all the help people. i am currently UPGRADING from win98 to
linux, and i do mean upgrade with all my heart. and am deciding to switch
to ADSL technology for my inet access.
i live in gainesville florida, were at the heart of University of Florida.
they just opened up cable modems to students only, which i would be a part
of, but the modems provided by COX cable here must be purchased by the
students at a whoping $300.00, plus install fees of upto $150.00 and a
monthly fee of $50.00. and currently COX cable here only supports DOWNLOAD,
so we would have to use our phoneline to upload at 56Kbs/s which is not a
whole lot.
ADSL is provided by BellSouth here and they recently put out an ad for
their services (which is new as well) with a discount of only $100.00 to
install and $50.00 a month if you have their total phone package (call
waiting, caller-id, etc.)
ive only installed linux once before, and that was years ago. so this
should be a challenge to get everything working together. ive got the
resources so it shouldnt be that hard to configure everything but if i have
trouble ill come back around.
thanks for all the input on ADSL vs. CABLE, it was appreciated.
Ken Garland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-ultima online pk-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: procreation and Choice
Date: 27 Aug 1999 01:25:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Wooding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >If those persons are further so irresponsible as to create new life
>> >and refuse to provide all the basics - food, shelter, etc. then that
>> >constitutes
>>
>> If they "refuse" to do the impossible? What marvel of twisted thinking.
>
>If it's impossible for these people then they shouldn't breed. That's
>logical enough, surely.
Are you saying they should abstrain from having sex? Well, what *fucking*
chance do you think there is of them listening to such simple-minded
"advice"?! Or are you saying they should stop listening to their priests
and other "moral leaders" who order them to breed and forbid the use of
contraceptives and/or abortions (and set up economic obstacles to their
use)? Sound advice but what chance in bloody hell is there they'll have
the self-respect to tell a priest to fuck off? What exactly are you saying
and what makes you so stupid as to believe that the world is all black
and white? What makes you such a downright moron that you believe "logic"
has anything to do with the human psyche?
>> I suppose you blame victims of rape for "refusing" to defend
>> themselves?
>
>They don't get a choice. People who breed when they can't support
>children properly do get a choice, and choose irresponsibly.
Are you saying that it is irresponsible to reproduce if you have
not assured the necessities for your children for the next 20 years?
In that case, 80% of the population is wholly irresponsible. Because
if that's not what you're saying then what the bloody hell are you
gonna do about people who lose their job /after/ procreating?
>[Hmm... The newsgroups line says this is gnu.misc.discuss and
>comp.os.linux.*, but this thread feels more like uk.transport.]
At least it's moved away from capitalism vs. communism.
--
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From: "Nobody U. Know" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can Linux read NTFS?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:43:57 -0700
T.P Harte wrote in message <7q4lna$247$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am running Red Hat 6.0 under Windows NT 4.0 and I would like to
>do most of my work in Linux.
>
>Is it possible for Linux to read NTFS? I have tried to
>mount the NT partition on my disk but Linux doesn't
>recognise it.
>
>Am I doing the wrong thing by attempting to mount? Are there any
>hacks/workarounds out there?
>
>Thomas.
You may need to get the newest kernel sources and
recompile your kernel, but yes it will. However to use
this you must make sure that you choose support for
experimental drivers when configuring.
-Jeff
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From: "Nobody U. Know" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux SMP question
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:42:05 -0700
Guangyong Xu wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi, I convinced my boss to buy a PC running Linux as our server. He also
>wanted it to be somekind of high end workstation doing some graphical
>analysis etc. He is thinking of buying one with dual-processors. I am
>kind of against it since I don't believe we will be using more than one
>time consuming applicaions at a time. He told me that Win NT can
>distribute a process to multi CPUs to make a process run faster even if
>there is only one CPU consuming process. Is it also true for linux? I'm
>sure if you use multi-thread or more than one heavy processes,
>dual-processor would be much faster than a single one. But will Linux
>SMP be able to run only one application faster with a dual-Pentium
>board? Thanks.
>-G.Xu
Linux supports SMP better than Win NT from what I have experienced.
However in EITHER case you will need a multithreaded program to
take full advantage of the dual processors. And windows NT will
NOT make a process run faster if there is only one time consuming
process. Neither will linux. If you have a dual 400 MHz Pentium 2 computer,
you have a dual 400 MHz Pentium computer, which is not equivalent to
a single 800 MHz computer.
In the case above each program you execute will run at 400 mhz, however
you will be able to execute twice as many programs at one time before
the machine shows any signs of being over loaded. If you are going to
be running a SMP machine I would recommend going with a dual
celeron. The performance is great and the cost is about half.
-Jeff
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux viruses?
Date: 25 Aug 1999 19:03:16 -0700
"Jonathan Penalber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I haven't come across any antivirus programs for Linux. Are viruses not a
> problem on this platform?
No, but FAQs are. There are virus scanners, but they are for scanning
mail, etc. destined for Windows machines.
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No headers?
Date: 26 Aug 1999 19:47:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew O. Persico wrote:
> Now that I have installed 6.0 with KDE, why would the standard 'C'
> headers (stdio.h, string.h, etc) be installed in
> /usr/src/linux-2.2.5/include/linux/include instead of /usr/include where
> they FREAKING BELONG?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Because of a mistake?
However, be aware that /usr/src/linux/include/linux _does_ normally
contain some .h files that _look_ like the standard C headers (e.g.,
stddef.h, string.h), but are actually versions used for the kernel.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: New Hard Drive....
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:42:59 -0500
Dave wrote:
>
> I have a new 13 GB hard drive and I'd like to move some stuff around and I
> want to know the best way of going about it. I currently have Win98 and
> the MBR w/ LILO on the Primary-Master, and Redhat Linux 6.0 on the Primary
> Slave. I'd like to insert the new drive as Primary-Master w/ the MBR and
> Win98. On the second drive (originally primary master) I'd like to have
> Linux. I'd also like to increase the size of the linux partitions with
> the changeover. I'm still not sure whether or not I'll still use the old
> slave drive or not. What should I do? Re-install? Change the fstab
> before moving everything? Re-install LILO after I'm done moving?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
I would recommend reinstalling. However, if you can create a
partition on what will be the second drive in which you can
put your user files, you will have them there after you install
if that becomes your new /home partition.
Are you sure your BIOS supports a 13 Meg drive?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pi6000 driver
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:03:24 +0100
Reply-To: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At work, we have a Minolta Di520 with pi6000 printer controller, and I'd
like to get it to work in linux properly. At the moment, I have it (sort
of) working using a HP Laserjet driver, which is a little sluggish, and
gets the margins all wrong, but its okay temporarily, but I kinda need
something more permanent before I leave it alone (am leaving work in a
week or so, and need to have everything working forthem by then).
Anybody know how I can get this to work? I thought that it was a
postcript printer, but when I tried using that, it just printed out the
raw text of the postcript file.
Please reply by e-mail as I can't check newsgroups often,
Thanks,
Andrew
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:01:37 -0600
steve mcadams wrote:
> I guess most people have no experience with true virtual machine
> operating systems like IBM's VM/ESA (or whatever its latest version has
> been renamed to, I've been away from it since 93).
>
> They have an operating system they called CP (Control Program) that runs
> the base hardware. Its sole purpose in life is to TRANSPARENTLY host
> other operating systems. The operating systems running on top of it can
> not tell they are not running natively. You can even run CP
> second-level on top of CP to debug it. It runs at full processor speed,
> the systems on top of it run at full processor speed except that there
> are lot of interrupts happening that are processed by CP and result in
> remapping of memory and hardware to allow sharing of the processor and
> its associated hardware on a transparent basis.
>
> It is my understanding that the Intel x86 architecture lacks a couple of
> instructions that make TOTAL TRANSPARENCY impossible. This is why I was
> initially skeptical.
>
> If vmware is running on top of NT or on top of Linux then at best it is
> acting as an interpreter. Better than nothing but absolutely not a true
> virtual machine operating system by the definition that I'm used to.
I fear this could easily degenerate into something analogous
to the eternally tiresome tirades about whether Win9x is a
"real" operating system. Yuck.
If VMWare allows you to run other operating sytems from
within linux, fine; that sounds like a useful capability. I
may even decide to use it myself, sometime. If it's not a
Truly Bless�d Totally Transparent (tm) Virtual Machine, then
so be it. I suspect many people are willing to put up with
that "limitation."
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: Script to preload netscape?
Date: 27 Aug 1999 00:59:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:16:36 +0000, Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't know much about programing so I don't know if this is possible
>but is there any type of script you can write to preload netscape?
>Somthing that starts it but doesn't show it on the display until you hit
>an icon or somthing? Somthing to do with the $DISPLAY variable.
I don't have netscape installed on this machine, so I can't test
to see if the option is supported, but most X applications honor
a "-iconic" argument to have them start-up in iconic form:
netscape -iconic &
Of course, you can use this in conjunction with any of your
other favorite options:
netscape -display foo.bar.org:1 -geometry 1000x2000+10-5 -iconic &
--Ken Pizzini
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From: Jeff Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.hacking,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: netscape 4.51 for linux
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:38:33 +0000
I use Netscape 4.61, and it seems quite stable. You can download it for
free from links found at home.netscape.com or
http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/upgrade.cgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have redhat 6.0 installed and it came with netscape 4.51. It's always
> crashing whenever anything that has to do with java is on the website
> I'm trying to access. How can I fix this. Thanks.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "John Drohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: sendmail/email question
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:13:43 GMT
May I suggest the KDE mail client, since you say you did install
RedHat 6.0? It allows you to configure multiple email accounts
as long as you know their corresponding POP and SMTP servers,
and obviously accounts and passwords.
--
John "BadBlood [PAIN]" Drohan
Chetan Patil wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I used to have a similar problem. There is no apparent easy solution for
>this. Finally I had set up two user profiles with my Netscape with
>different identities and reply-to fields. This worked for me without
>having to muck with Sendmail etc. However it was tiring to keep on
>restarting the browser just to check my home email from work.
>Lately I have started to use one of the free web based email providers
>(www.onebox.com). They provide a variety of other features as well and
>allow me to collect all my emails in one place. I use onebox to pull my
>home emails there and check them from anywhere.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Chetan
>
>Mitch wrote:
>>
>> I realize that my question might have already been answered to a certain
>>
>> extent in previous messages on newsgroups, however, I'm still unable to
>> figure out what I'm supposed to be doing. I have searched the deja.com
>> archives and found certain tidbits of information that might be useful,
>> but I'm still unsure about how to setup this entire configuration.
>>
>> SO....here goes.....
>>
>> I'm trying to configure my newly installed RH 6.0 box to receive both
>> my work email and home email. I think I understand all the general
>> issues
>> of MTU MUA etc., however, the configuration of sendmail is a bit
>> confusing.
>> On my redhat box (my workstation) I've got an account called "foo". At
>> work,
>> I have an email account "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", at home I have "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" &
>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". So, now you have some background...heres where I need
>> some
>> help.
>>
>> I'd like to be able to receive my email(work & home) to my linux box. I
>> read
>> in deja's archives that fetchmail was a recommended solution for this.
>> I'm
>> currently play with it :) However, if my understanding of fetchmail is
>> correct
>> all mail (home & work) will be delivered to my local account:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tested this, and it seems to work this
>> way. This
>> is fine, however, when I reply to a message (one from work or home) I
>> always
>> reply with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". This is bad. I somehow would like
>> to be
>> able to reply to mail to my work account with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my home
>> account
>> as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any suggestions on how to achieve with
>>
>> sendmail? Besides reading the FAQ - which I've done...does anyone have
>> a
>> similar configuration that I might be able to look at?
>>
>> If anyone knows of an easier of accomplishing this...then I'm all for
>> it. yes
>> I've tried KMAIL, however, it's pretty buggy and I prefer elm (uses VI
>> :P ).
>>
>> Much Thanks!!!!
>>
>> .mitch
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: My Linux crashes more often than M$
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:30:04 +0100
Hi,
Well it's just done it again! I'm using Red Hat 6, and every now and
then, it just decides to log me out, thus losing all unsaved information
from the apps I had open. It doesn't give any hint that anything is
wrong, it just logs me out. This is _very_ annoying. What was that about
Linux being the stablest OS there is?
So I'm forced to appeal to you guys to give me some insight into what is
wrong. Again. I've had so many problems with RH6, I spend far too much
time trying to fix problems when I should be using it to be productive.
Do non-Red Hat users have these problems?
Thanks,
- Kev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: Max files sizes under ext2?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:12:12 +0059
Robert Klien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Can we expect xfs anytime soon?
xfs is a journaling file system, its big benefit is a big reduction in
the amount of fsck'ing required after a crash or sudden power loss. It
will do NOTHING to affect the '2 Gb on ext2' issue.
If you are using a 32 bit processor under Linux then you get a 2 Gb
file size limit on ALL file systems. Linux already supports several
file systems which permit > 2Gb on the same processor under other
operating systems (e.g. NTFS). The problem lies in the part of the
kernel called the VFS which lies above the code for individual file
systems and in a number of other related areas such as libraries.
This problem is unlikely to be fixed any time soon. If you need large
file support then you can get a patch, but I believe that it requires
you to modify your application code. Your other way out of this
problem is to get yourself a 64 bit processor.
This situation may well be a dreadful problem which is completely
preventing widespread adoption of Linux in your organisation, but I've
got two Alphas and I don't care :-).
--
Richard Simpson
Farnborough, Hants, Uk Fax: 01252 392118
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not aware of any views shared by myself and my employers.
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:35:10 -0400
From: Yury Donskoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: procreation and Choice
Richard Kulisz wrote:
> Are you saying they should abstrain from having sex? Well, what *fucking*
> chance do you think there is of them listening to such simple-minded
> "advice"?! Or are you saying they should stop listening to their priests
> and other "moral leaders" who order them to breed and forbid the use of
> contraceptives and/or abortions (and set up economic obstacles to their
> use)? Sound advice but what chance in bloody hell is there they'll have
> the self-respect to tell a priest to fuck off? What exactly are you saying
> and what makes you so stupid as to believe that the world is all black
> and white? What makes you such a downright moron that you believe "logic"
> has anything to do with the human psyche?
No, they should abstain from having mindless sex, where no one cares what the
outcome is going to be, and no one has to, either, because ivory tower
intellectuals are always ready to step in and tell them that no thinking is
required. Religions have always maintained that sex should only be used for
procreation. I, personally, do not hold this view. But I do think that is
not an activity to be undertaken lightly and irresponsibly.
> Are you saying that it is irresponsible to reproduce if you have
> not assured the necessities for your children for the next 20 years?
> In that case, 80% of the population is wholly irresponsible. Because
> if that's not what you're saying then what the bloody hell are you
> gonna do about people who lose their job /after/ procreating?
Yes, it is irresponsible. I don't know where the 80% came from, but when a
family provides for it's children with food, shelter and love, than they have
done all is required of them. Anything more, and they're heroes.
Those who lose their jobs after procreating and are therefore not able to
provide, are not in the same position as those who produce children only to
increase their monthly welfare checks. The former should be helped, and the
latter cut off.
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:18:34 -0400
From: Yury Donskoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Pas Moi wrote:
> i think you've missed the point here. i doubt that mr. kulisz
> believes that there is no need for labour; it's more likely the
> element of compulsion (threat of starvation) rather than work itself
> to which he objects. he would probably argue that people should work
> for other reasons.
I think we should all remember that Mr. Kulisz's email address is from
Carleton University in Ottawa, and together with some of his others posts,
this identifies him as an ivory tower intellectual, and is therefore to be
ignored on general principles. He, like the other ITIs, ignores the fact
that many millions of people(myself included) have already passed the
verdict on wether to live under communism or under an imperfect
capitalism/democracy, and the overwhelming majority choose the imperfect
capitalism. The only ones that do otherwise are the ones who do something
so outrageous that even the lethargic citizens of the western democracies
start baying for their blood. But that is neither here nor there.
He argues that responsibility for oneself should be given to the state.
He forgets, or chooses to ignore, the fact that only western democracies
have unemployment insurance, let alone welfare. In communist societies
where the state nominally has responsibility for your welfare, if you
don't work, you don't eat. Now, obviously, there are excepts, such as
senior citizens, who, under communism get a pension that is so low, they
can barely feed themselves if they haven't saved anything. During their
working lives, their earnings were so low, they couldn't save anything.
Catch 22.
He also has a problem to child poverty. So do I. However, if you pay
attention to the much-spouted statistics, you realize that the most of
those children come from single-parent(read, female) families. The
solution is not to give them more money: that only breeds more child
poverty, quite often literally.
Anyone cares to continue this discussion, let's.
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From: Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: 27 Aug 1999 09:59:24 +0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock) writes:
> I feel obligated to post my advocacy for the Perl interface since
> nobody else has yet and I strongly object to the white-space syntax
> limitations of Tcl and Python on religious grounds.
Sure, python's treatment of white-space sucks, but perl, well... in
perl, it's the *non-white-space* that sucks.
[I find it quite sad that an otherwise nice language like python has
such a huge festering blemish. What *was* the author thinking?!?]
-Miles
p.s. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this is a bad post. Ignore it. Please.
--
Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over,
pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: 26 Aug 1999 21:54:00 -0500
Tim Izod wrote:
>
> Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Alan Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > Seems like Soundblasters are good. Ensoniq seems good also.
> > > > There are drivers for
> > > > SB Live from Creative. SB 16 is easy A lot of people
> > > > have problems with AWE 64. SB 128 seems to work pretty well also.
> > > > Jeanette
> > >
> > > Mine is SB 128... but it DOESN'T work at all! When I do sndconfig,
> > > it tells me that "sox: /dev/dsp not known". Does anyone know what it means?
> > > How can I get it work??? My kernel is 2.2.9
> > >
> > > Alan Lee
> >
> >
> > Buy the 4-Front driver for $20
>
> Or in preference, use the ALSA driver
> (http://www.alsa-project.org or look on freshmeat). The ALSA drivers
> are free, they're GPL and IMHO they sound better. Plus you get
> /dev/dsp support if you compile them with OSS support. The reasons why
> there isn't /dev/dep suport in the included kernel driver are given in
> the kernel docs.
>
They are actually a pain in the ass to install. I read thru the doc
and flushed the file. Too much shit to do just to get a stupid
driver to work. OSS is a breeze to install, well worth the $20 and
for those too cheap to buy it and have an ISA card it comes free with
SuSE 6.1 or 6.2
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From: "FAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SiS Chipset
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:55:06 +1000
Hi,
I am currently trying to configure my video card (AOpen 3D Artist 8mb
SiS6326 chipset) with absolutely no luck. I can open my X window but only in
300x200 resolution and when I upgraded to 3.3.3-1 the icons are tiny and the
drop down boxes are blacked out. My monitor is a 14" ADI Microscan 3E and I
also have a 12 mb Voodoo2 card. I have been using xf86config to try a few
different settings. The optimal setting so far is:
SiS6326
SVGA
If i let the program probe, its default resolution is 1024x768 and all the
dropdown boxes etc. are blacked out. If I choose custom and select 640x480 &
800x600 for 8 bit and 640x480, 800x600 & 1024x768 for 16bit and 24bit the
desktop defaults to 300x200. It works fine, just very difficult to get
around :)
Could you please offer any advice.
My software is Mandrake 6.0 Complete Version and I downloaded the 3.3.3-1
update files.
Regards, Scott
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