Linux-Misc Digest #667, Volume #21 Sat, 4 Sep 99 09:13:21 EDT
Contents:
linux hangs during boot (Jesse Marandino)
Restrict user login ("Andrew")
Alternative to cdparanoia? (me)
Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! ("Chad Mulligan")
Re: Serial Port Spiking (James Knott)
Re: making linux go away (James Knott)
Re: Gnome Panel in KDE??? (muzh)
Re: Have you heard? (James Knott)
Re: Linux success stories (James Knott)
scsi-spin (Stephen Tse)
Re: Window Maker background problem (Thomas R. Shannon)
Re: DHCP and never-expired leases (Re-post) (Steve Purdy)
Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! (Bernhard Herzog)
Re: Where is fips? (Dave)
Re: Bash not running executables (Adrian Hands)
Re: Password protected web page (Martin)
test (Matt)
Re: Journalling FS (ellis)
HDD losing data? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI? (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: News reader and email application?! (Danie Roux)
Re: Have you heard? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
bash question (Yan Seiner)
Laptop X config (Marko)
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From: Jesse Marandino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux hangs during boot
Date: 3 Sep 1999 17:26:29 GMT
Hi,
If anyone can help me. I need to find a way to boot
Linux RH6.0 without having it bring up the eth0 interface.
I setup the eth0 incorrectly and now it hangs during boot.
thanks in advance. I tried init=single, but it didn't do
anything different.
jesse marandino
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jesse at mips dot com - jesse marandino
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From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Restrict user login
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:56:13 +0800
Did you know how to restrict number of user login at the same time ?
How to the idle time and logout the user ?
please e-mail for me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:16:40 +0200
From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Alternative to cdparanoia?
hi
i'm looking for an alternative to cdparanoia for ripping audio CD's.
i have a 24x drive and cdparanoia only seems to rip CD's at 1x or 2x.
anything fast will do
anyone know of anything?
ali ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 02:02:56 -0700
Azzy wrote in message ...
>
>2) A shared printer. I have several machines on my home network, all
>Windoze, which share a central HP LaserJet 3100 printer over the network.
>I need to know if it is possible, and how to do, for a Linux machine to
>print to this printer which is served by Windows NT. Is this Samba
>functionality? Would HP need to make a driver specific for Linux for it
>to work?
>
MS Just release LPR for Win9x so use TCP/IP all around.
>-Azzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Subject: Re: Serial Port Spiking
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:25:40 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <YFyy3.6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kristjan Varnik) wrote:
>John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: Kristjan Varnik writes:
>: > I have looked around the web and found plenty of c code for opening and
>: > writing to serial ports, but nothing on voltages and raw analog signals.
>:
>: While all serial ports put out a positve voltage when transmitting a space,
>: few come anywhere near 12V. There is nothing you can do in software to
>: change that.
>:
>: I assume that what you need to do is apply +12V to one of the lines for a
>: specified period while holding the others in a specified state? Just wire
>: up some hardware to do it.
>Yeah. This is what I have to do. I was able to find a contact who
>told me to apply 12V to one of the tap plugs on the circuit board.
>
>One last question:
>Is this something I do with a voltmeter? Or is there specific hardware?
A voltmeter is used to measure voltage, not produce it. Given the
amount of modification required to a com port to do what you want,
you're better off with dedicated hardware for this task. A simple 555
or later timer can provide the required pulse width and a transistor
to a proper power supply can provide the necessary switched voltage
pulse to the device. The time can be triggered by the com port
handshaking signals. Several years ago, I built an programmer
for 2716 EPROMs on an 8085 CPU single board computer. A simple
circuit did the job a lot easier than trying to modify the com port
and write timing loops to get the correct pulse voltage and width.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:17:55 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7qbnmd$apl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Triumph TR-7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>and, consequently, win98 would not install. hmm
Is that a problem??? ;-)
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome Panel in KDE???
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 20:02:37 +1200
Walter Francis wrote:
>
> muzh wrote:
> >
> > There isn't a "gnome" window manager to my knowledge.
> > You can start the gnome panel in any window manager by simply typing
> > "panel" (no quotes) in any x-term
>
> Why would someone want to do that? The durn Enlightenment panel is a
> good part of the reason I STOPPED using Gnome/Enlightenment..
>
> I still hate the desktop border switching in KDE (mouse winds up on
> opposite side of the screen, or in the middle) but I've pretty much
> gotten used to the other differences. Maybe KDE 2.0 will make the
> desktop switching act like other WM's I've seen, such as Enlightenment
> and AfterStep.
>
You can use the Gnome panel with ANY window manager, not just
Enlightenment. For a while I was running Gnome with Afterstep with no
problems (not sure if Afterstep is "Gnome compliant", but the two
seemed to work well together), then I lost my configuration after yet
another install.
Now I'm using KDE 1.1.1 -- also seems OK.
Which fruit do you like -- apples or bananas?
cll
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:39:46 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7qnb3n$9gl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jamie Putnam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Microsoft's OS is like Kenny G on kazoo. There has to be a
>melody in there somewhere it's just difficult to discern.
Just like when he's on the sax! ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Subject: Re: Linux success stories
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:54:39 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Javier Fernandez wrote:
>
> Where can I find true success stories of Linux at real enterprises?
There's a book called (IIRC) "Linux at Work", which covers a lot of
companies that run Linux.
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IBM Canada Ltd.
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Subject: scsi-spin
From: Stephen Tse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 18:24:33 GMT
--Multipart_Fri_Sep__3_11:24:20_1999-1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Hi, Martin! I searched deja and found your article. Have you found the
solution yet? I am also very interested in turning off my noisy scsi
cdr driver. scsi-config does not work for me either.
cr610941-a:/proc/scsi# uname -a
Linux cr610941-a 2.2.11 #1 Thu Sep 2 16:09:53 PDT 1999 i586 unknown
cr610941-a:/proc/scsi# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
Vendor: MATSHITA Model: CD-R CW-7502 Rev: 4.10
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
cr610941-a:/proc/scsi#
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Content-Type: message/rfc822
From: mkrikis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: does anybody use scsi-spin --down ???
Date: 1999/06/23
Asked this in hardware and questions already and didn't see
any answers... Has anybody else besides me tried the scsi-spin
utility from hwtools package (available from Debian)???
�
=========================================================
�
I'm among those who would like to occasionally shut the noisy
disks down, so I downloaded and installed hwtools_0.4-1.deb which contains scsi-spin.
It sounded very promising but in reality
produces only this:
�
� kaste:~# scsi-spin --down /dev/sda
� /dev/sda is not a generic SCSI device.
�
or this:
�
� kaste:~# scsi-spin --down /dev/sg0
� /dev/sg0 is not a generic SCSI device.
�
This is so no matter whether I compile generic scsi support in
or load it as a module (and lsmod lists it).
�
Am I supposed to do something else as well to get this
disk to spin down? There is no documentation and I can't find the source either (which
of course might or might not help given my
pretty limited expertise in this area...). I've looked at
SCSI howto and SCSI Programming Howto and found no clues.
Haven't dared to program it myself yet.
�
(I've heard about the scsi-idle kernel patch, but would prefer
the above mentioned "solution", if it works somehow, of course.)
�
Any help or pointers are very appreciated.
�
� Martin� � <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
�
P.S.
�
kaste:~# uname -a
Linux kaste 2.0.34 #3 Sat Jun 12 00:22:30 EDT 1999 i586 unknown
�
kaste:~# more /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
� Vendor: FUJITSU� Model: M2915Q-512� � � Rev: 0127
� Type:� Direct-Access� � � � � � � � � � ANSI SCSI revision: 02
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas R. Shannon)
Subject: Re: Window Maker background problem
Date: 03 Sep 1999 13:30:25 -0500
Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have finally gotten around to experimenting with WindowMaker.
> Everything seemed to install properly (windowmaker, the "data" file, the
> "extras" file), but I can't seem to get even a simple solid background
> color on my desktop. The config app seems to think everything is fine,
> and using the gtk configurator, it even shows previews and such, but it
> never gets applied to the actual desktop. No error messages or anything.
> Can someone help me out?
There's a command that must be run in order to allow WindowMaker to
set itself up properly. I think it's "wmconfig" but I'm not sure.
It's in the installation instructions. You only need to run it once
from the commandline. From then on it should start up fine.
Tom
--
Quote of the day for Friday, 3 September, 1999:
"The only limits are, as always, those of vision."
- James Broughton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Purdy)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,info.ncsa-telnet,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hk.comp.pc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: DHCP and never-expired leases (Re-post)
Date: 4 Sep 1999 09:47:30 +0100
Jimmy Lio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: > How do I configure dhcpd so that it gives out leases that never expired?
: >
: > Jimmy
Read the DHCP mini-HOWTO, or the simple answer, assuming you are the admin
then edit /etc/dhcpd.conf to add a section for the fixed address:
host boxname {
hardware ethernet aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff;
fixed-address 192.168.111.222;
}
Restart dhcpd and away you go.
--
Steve Purdy. London, England.
http://www.abode.demon.co.uk/
Using the internet from home. Powered by Linux
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From: Bernhard Herzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: 04 Sep 1999 11:43:17 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Azzy) writes:
> 1) Software. Certain applications are critical to my job and life. I
> need to know if there are Linux versions or adequate replacements for
> these in Linux--
[...]
> * Adobe Illustrator
[...]
To my knowledge, there's no program available yet that can replace Adobe
Ilustrator or Corel Draw completely, but there are several projects that
go in this direction.
The older programs XFig and Tgif are probably part of every major Linux
distribution.
There's KIllustrator, the drawing program for KOffice:
http://wwwiti.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~sattler/killustrator.html
Then there's GYVE, written in Objective-C and Display Ghostscript
http://www.maru.cs.ritsumei.ac.jp/~sanchan/gyve/
And last, not least there's Sketch, written in a combination of Python
and C
http://www.online.de/home/sketch/
Personally, I prefer Sketch, but I'm biased ;-)
--
Bernhard Herzog | Sketch, a drawing program for Unix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.online.de/home/sketch/
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is fips?
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 20:40:25 +1000
"Spike!" wrote:
> (I don't remember seeing it on SuSE)
It's there, along with many other DOS utils that I am yet to see in
other distros.
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash not running executables
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 07:18:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scott Prince wrote:
>
> From the man pages... Bash looks for a command first, if not there it
> assumes that it's an executable and executes if the file has the
> permissions and exists in the path, and finally matches on the slashes
> and checks the file to see if it is executable.
>
> For some reason I can no longer cd to a directory and just type the
> filename and have it execute. I have to do something like...
>
> 'perl /dir/script.pl'
>
> Have I missed something here or is my shell not behaving properly?
>
> Scott
Let me see if I understand:
What you WANT to type is:
$ script.pl
What you HAVE TO type is:
$ perl /dir/script.pl
If this is the case, what you need to do is check the FIRST line of you
your perl script.
It needs to be:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
Of course, first check to make sure /usr/bin/perl exists. Maybe it's
/usr/local/bin/perl or /bin/perl on your system ?
It HAS TO be the first line of the script.
Also, make sure you didn't forget to:
$ chmod a+x script.pl
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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Password protected web page
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:19:32 +0200
Cliff wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>
> > Claude Viau wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've been trying to figure out how to secure a web page using .htaccess and
> > > htpasswd. Any specific permission must go on the /home/.. folders or on
> > > the
> > > folder that is protected. I always get the same error "Authorization
> > > failed", as though it couldn't find the path AuthUserFile or something.
> > >
> > > I'm still VERY new at this.
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > Claude
> >
> > take a look in the documentation and faq of Apache.
> > you've to make a PassWd File of your own for Apache. And this you have to use.
> > It has nothing to do with the *ix /etc/passwd File.
> >
> > You can define all or a specific folder [with it's subfolder's as protected].
> > If you're runing cgi's: Don't forget to protect them too [don't forget the same I
>did :-]
>
> Yes, only if the scripts are for your own use. Let say all your scripts reside in
>cgi-bin,
> anyone without a username+password will not be able to run your script if they are
> htpasswd-protected.
> i.e. The number of count will not be incrementing for a page containing a counter.
>
> Cliff
>
> >
> >
> > Have fun
> > Martin
then just mak an unprotected Counter.
That's it.
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From: Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:41:32 +0100
test
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ellis)
Subject: Re: Journalling FS
Date: 3 Sep 1999 19:34:09 GMT
In article <7pjl70$nqg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is any journalling file system with quota
>to prevent tooo long fscking a big FS (RAID)
>when SW & HW crashes are occured?
Take a look at http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/
--
http://www.fnet.net/~ellis/photo/linux.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HDD losing data?
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:00:37 GMT
Currently we're having a problem with data loss on our main webserver
which is a Linux machine running apache 1.3.9 and kernel 2.2.9 (Linux
/mandrake 6.0).
It installed OK and all the files were set up OK. We had to power down
the machine to move it and when rebooted all the files we in place. We
started copying files over to the webserver and this all worked fine and
we didn't have to reboot at all until we had to move it and when we went
to restart the machine all the files were lost that we had added since
last reboot.
It looks like the machine was caching the files to memory and not
writing to the disk, so that when rebooting the files were lost. This is
a worrying problem and I don't know if this is likely to be a kernel
problem or a hardware problem or a problem with something distributed
with Mandrake.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI?
Date: 4 Sep 1999 12:08:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ocyrus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Why do you dislike RH 6 ? Seems very easy to use and install. I have never
Huh! Seems. As an experienced sysadmin for many years, with dozens of
installs of all major distros in every version, I can say that I have
an abiding loathing of RH. Stupid idiotic bugs in their installs, and
later, and obscurantist setups that you can't easily modify. Not to
mention a binary database. I wouldn't allow it within 10ft of me (I
think that was feet, not fathoms, but it's all the same :-) ...
: had any problems with it. But im still quite new, so i dont know what the
: limits of RH 6 have. I have tried Debian, Slackware, SuSE, and Caldera. I
: always seem up back with RH.
Personally, Slackware is my favorite. But until they go to glibc 2.1,
there's no point. I.e. the first act would have to be to throw in 2.1
plus development tools after installing. RH 6.0 did a good job of
solving most of the major 2.1 problems (and leaving thousands of small
ones to be sloved later) so we know how to do it. Debian also has
partially solved the glibc 2.1 business, but is proceeding much more sanely
and carefully with the binary replacements necessary. I would estimate
about 30% of their packages are not yet in 2.1 binary format.
I'd recommend SuSE or Caldera to a first-timer who's not interested in
becoming techically literate. Not RH.
Peter
: I am interested to hear what you have to say.
: --ocyrus
: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:7qmq6f$f9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: > TNC wrote:
: > >
: > > Here's a little flamebait for you all. What is the best distro and GUI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danie Roux)
Subject: Re: News reader and email application?!
Date: 4 Sep 1999 12:09:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:34:05 -0400, Jack Zhu wrote:
>Could anyone recommend some good News reader and email application for Linux?
I'm a console junkie, so this may or may not help you :)
I use slrn for news. I like the scoring. Get it at ftp://space.mit.edu in
pub/davis/slrn.
I use Pine for email.
Danie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:37:35 GMT
If I where to try it, Iwould get it in writing from MS that it's ok
because if you crack it, The way MS is , they'll sue you in heart beat.
In article <7oeuor$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby) wrote:
>
> [Cross Postings Reduced]
>
> Oystein Viggen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> > "Nathan Neal" wrote:
> >
> >> Microsoft challenges hackers to break into Windows 2000
> >>
> >> In a controversial move, Microsoft Corporation has made one of its
Windows
> >> 2000 Servers on the Internet available to hackers, inviting people
to
> >> attempt to break in. The goal: To make Windows 2000 as industrial
strength
> >> as possible. The company says it is looking for any "magic bullet"
attacks
> >> that can kill it, and has asked hackers to follow some simple rules
so that
> >> they can determine the validity of any attacks. Since the server
went online
> >> Tuesday morning, it has yet to be hacked.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > That's probably correct. It has crashed several times since then,
> > though... :)
> >
>
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/08/05/1248205&mode=thread
>
>
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2309474,00.html?chkpt=hpqs
014
> [Microsoft to hackers: Crack this! But Windows 2000 test server
appears
> to have crashed without any help.]
>
> - Justin
> --
> _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ RULES!! * LINUX RULES *
> _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Justin Willoughby
> _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://justinw.net
> _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ ---- Jesus Is Lord ----
>
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bash question
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 07:38:02 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a script that does arith. eavaluation:
if $[ $SIZE <= 12 ]; then PAPERSIZE=archA
This works fine, except that bash attempts to execute the result:
./ps2pcl: 1: command not found
How should I rewrte this to get rid of this annoying message?
TIA,
Yan
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From: Marko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.laptop,linux.dev.x11,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Laptop X config
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 22:16:04 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a Dell latitude CPi 400 with NeoMagic 2160 (128 bit) 2Mb video
memory card.
I've just installed RedHat 6.0 on to it with XFree86 v 3.3.3.1 and I can
not get it to work.
I've tried so many things that I'm not going to list them all. PS I can
get it to work in 640 X 480.
Please... if some one has successfully resolved this please please let
me know what to do.
comp.os.
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