Linux-Misc Digest #667, Volume #18               Sun, 17 Jan 99 18:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Obscure bug (?) in Linux telnet (Jeremy Mathers)
  Regexp does not work...? (Stef)
  caller id program for the computer? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: When I'm online, my hard drive makes noise... (Enno Middelberg)
  fully conecting win98 with linux ("Marc S. Hernandez")
  Cdparanoia and SCSI CDROM (Robert Hampf)
  X programs and backspace? (thompson)
  Re: Can this modem be driven with Linux? (Chris Wilson)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris Allen)
  Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Rebbot remote server (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Telnet macro.  Does it exist? (Jim Richardson)
  Which is the best colour printer for Linux? (Phillip Deackes)
  Re: hard disk copy (Pasha Zusmanovich)
  Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Alexander Viro)
  Re: lilo stalls at LI ! (Len Huppe)
  Saving changes to Xwindows desktop (Chris Empson)
  Re: where did shutdown go? I miss it! ("Bobby D. Bryant")
  Beowulf Anyone? ("A.R.Allen")
  Re: When I'm online, my hard drive makes noise... (James Youngman)
  Re: Linux on a 286? (James Youngman)
  Re: securing a linux box (James Youngman)
  Re: I want my network card back ! (James Youngman)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Obscure bug (?) in Linux telnet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:37:54 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jeremy Mathers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Now, try:
>>      telnet 0 13 < /dev/null
>
>Works fine here, mostly RH-5.2 binaries, telnet is 0.10-5
>kernel is 2.1.recent

I did a little more testing - and it seems to be load/timing
dependent, and the effect is better observed if you telnet to some
other machine (since the remote machine connection adds some delay to
the process).

This is what I get, running Red Hat 5.1 (official Red Hat labeled box,
paid $57 for it), kernel 2.0.35, stock telnet from the CD:

telnet other.machine 13 < /dev/null
Trying 1.2.3.4...
Connected to other.machine
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

Notice no date/time in the above.  But something did change, because
it works reliably on older machines (badly under-endowed by today's
standards - e.g., 16M P90) running older software - and fails
consistently on newer, well-endowed machines running RH 5.1

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From: Stef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Regexp does not work...?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:06:53 +0100

When I say 
last | head -1
I get:

stef     tty1                          Sun Jan 17 17:55   still logged in

But when I say:
last | grep tty[[:digit:]]
or
last | grep tty[0123456789]

I get no matches. What am I missing?
Stef
-- 
WebMaster D-WERK
UNIX and Windows NT administration, SOS-ETH 
ETH Zurich
[EMAIL PROTECTED]        http://hoes.li

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc
Subject: caller id program for the computer?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:05:54 GMT

Hi, i was just wondering if there is a callerid program for either windows nt
or linux (preferably linux).  I had heard one exists but i have not been able
to find such a thing.  thank you.

            -Gaiko

Gaikokujin Kyofusho
Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Enno Middelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: When I'm online, my hard drive makes noise...
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:19:23 +0100

Enno Middelberg wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've a little problem with Linux and my modem: When I'm online and eg
> telnetting to another machine, EACH letter I type makes the hard drive
> making some noise. And compared to M$Windows, the harddrive is running
> much more during surfing or networking under Linux. Does anybody know
> where I can change this???
> 
> thanx
> 
> Enno Middelberg
> 
> Please feel free to mail answers directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as I'm
> a rare guest here. Thank you!!!


Ok, seems like I fixed it:

I don't know why, but EACH single letter I type via telnet is logged
into /var/log/messages. This file had grown to 14MB, so I deleted it and
now everything's fine. Bue WHY THE HELL does Linux lock each single
letter??? tail -f /var/log/messages looks like

Jan 17 18:12:15 flow kernel: ppp_dev_xmit_lower: fcs is 46b9
Jan 17 18:12:15 flow kernel: ppp_dev_xmit: writing 61 chars
Jan 17 18:12:15 flow kernel: ppp_dev_xmit [ppp0]: skb 03d38e7c
Jan 17 18:12:15 flow kernel: ppp_dev_xmit_lower: fcs is 1b4d
Jan 17 18:12:15 flow kernel: ppp_dev_xmit: writing 44 chars

when I'm telnetting to another machine. Lots of stuff which I don't
understand :-(

My /etc/syslog.conf contains the following:

kern.warn;*.err;authpriv.none   /dev/tty10
*.emerg                         *

mail.*                          -/var/log/mail

news.*                          -/var/log/news

*.warn                          /var/log/warn

*.*;mail.none;news.none         /var/log/messages

Ok, seems like its the last line which is the "bug". I think I'll go
into the man syslog.conf and check how to configure it so that only
warnings and stuff like this are logged.


Happy linuxing

Enno

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From: "Marc S. Hernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fully conecting win98 with linux
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:20:42 -0500

Is there a way I can actualy bring my linux machine up in windows 98
under the network neighborhood icon...
All i am able to do is ping my linux box with the win98 machine.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Hampf)
Subject: Cdparanoia and SCSI CDROM
Date: 17 Jan 1999 15:58:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have used Cdparanoia a lot with my (extremly slow) ATAPI CDROM.  A
week ago I bought a SCSI CDROM but I can't rip with it.

If I make a link  from /dev/scd0 to /dev/cdrom I can play cds with
XPlaycd. 

If I try Cdparanoia I get:

====================================================================
$ cdparanoia -v 4
cdparanoia III alpha prerelease 9.4 (December 16, 1998)
(C) 1998 Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is PRERELEASE software!  Report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user/xiphmont/cdparanoia/index.html

Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom...
        Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface
                /dev/scd0 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM.
        Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface
                No generic SCSI device found to match CDROM device
        /dev/scd0
=====================================================================

I have tried to link all of the various /dev/sg* to /dev/cdrom.  They
are other-readable and SCSI generic support is compiled into the
kernel.  I get e.g.:

======================================================================

[...]
Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom...
        Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface
                /dev/sga is not a cooked ioctl CDROM.
        Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface
                Could not access device /dev/sga: Permission denied
                generic device: /dev/sga
                ioctl device: not found
                Could not open generic SCSI device /dev/sga:
        Permission denied

=======================================================================

If there is no /dev/cdrom Cdparanoia checks some devices and exits
after finding none that it can use.

The kernel is a 2.2.0-pre7 and the installation is a RH 5.1.

rh

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From: thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: X programs and backspace?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:37:16 +0000

hello -
        okay how do I solve this problem which plagues me where ever I go and
make it stay that way?  
        I have no backspace key in most X programs.  most noticably in netscape
but also in GTK programs too like gimp, etc.  I changed my Xmodmap to
get a backspace key in netscape but it didn't change the gimp. right now
I am using ^h and it is really annoying.  esp. since I seem to have
really fat fingers.
        so can anyone point me to some docs on the most robust way to fix
this.  e.i. dist. independant solution.  I need to know what is going on
so I can remember how to do it in the future, not just a quick fix.
                thanks a bunch-
                eric

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From: Chris Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can this modem be driven with Linux?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:34:50 +0000

Richard Jones wrote:
[...]
> [1] \WINDOWS\TSAD.DLL, and if anyone knows how
> to recover this DLL without a complete reinstall,
> I would be eternally grateful ...
Sssh. You didn't hear this from me..
Try "EXTRACT /Y /A /L $WINDIR$ PRECOPY1.CAB TSAD.DLL" from the win95 dir
on your CD (or equivalent CAB file dir). 
Not sure about $WINDIR$, you might have to type it in yourself. ;-)
-- 
   Chris Wilson - spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How's Dougal? Linux 2.2.0-pre7-ac4
  3:06pm  up 1 day, 14:52,  5 users,  load average: 1.63, 1.37, 1.20
"WE ARE PENTIUM OF BORG. DIVISION IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE APPROXIMATED."

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From: Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:20:23 -0500

brian moore wrote:
> 
(snip)
> 
> Probably the vast majority of the time they are idle.  The 100 or so
> Windows machines we have at work crash so often that it's taken as
> normal by their users who don't believe my uptimes.  (And don't
> understand me when I whine about a silly Solaris bug that would crash
> the system after 270 days: they couldn't conceive of a 9-month uptime,
> while for me the fact that it couldn't exceed that without a patch was a
> serious bug.)
> 

Shame on you for spreading FUD like that.  I work as an NT sysadmin in a
large development environment.  Everyone uses NT workstations or Win95
laptops.  For the first 1.5 years of the project, I was the main person
providing site support (in addition to maintaining my 8 NT servers).  I
get maybe 2 bluescreens a month out of 200 workstations and 8 servers. 
These machines aren't used lightly, so idle time is not an issue.  Many
have been up for a month or more.  The least reliable server has been up
for 50 days or so.  My most reliable servers (a tie between 6) have been
up continuously for over 6 months (would be longer, but we had to cut
power to the data center for construction).  My personal workstation was
up for over 30 days before I shut it down to replace it with an NT
laptop (it's never BSOD on me).

Chris
Posted via Linux-the only os on my home machine

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:16:26 -0600

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Elijah Kagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>I am trying to find any information about benchmarks of Linux and FreeBSD.
>Does anyone know about some study on this subject?

Benchmarks doing what?  I know that I've seen statistics about the ftp
site at ftp.cdrom.com (which runs FreeBSD) that gives some indication
of what that OS can do under load, but I don't recall anything else.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
       OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
        WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
           You hold 'em off, I'll go for help.  (heh-heh-heh!)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Rebbot remote server
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:04:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:36:44 GMT, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> brought forth the following words...:

>I am fairly new to linux, and i have a simple question.  I telnet to
>my Linux server and SU to root but when I try running "reboot" or
>"shutdpwn" it says command not found.  Is there anyway, to fix this ??
>
>GS

when you su to root from another acct on redhat, /sbin is not in your 
path, so simply prefix the command with the path ie:

bash:> /sbin/reboot


-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Telnet macro.  Does it exist?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:04:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 15 Jan 1999 23:41:22 -0600, 
 Leslie Mikesell  
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> brought forth the following words...:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Christian Brideau  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I want to automate complete telnet sessions.  In other words, logon-do
>>stuff-get out.
>>
>>Is this scriptable?  If not is there a macro software out there that I
>>could use to perform this task?
>
>Kermit from http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ has a reasonable scripting
>language that works the same with serial ports or telnet sessions.
>
>  Les Mikesell
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Expect would work here, it's practically the definitive expect task.

See the book "exploring expect" by Don Libes? 

Python could handle it too, but expect will work great.
-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Which is the best colour printer for Linux?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 20:55:11 GMT

Do we yet have a printer 'driver' for any colour printer for Linux which
gives similar quality to what is achievable under Windows? It really is
the last thing keeping Windows on my machine. I can use my scanner,touch
up the image with The Gimp but have to save images to my Windows
partition, boot up Windows and print from there. I might as well scan
under Windows too.

I have an HP 690C and can get reasonable quality using magicfilter and
the 660/670 drivers under ghostscript. I have used hpdj, and the least
good 550C drivers which come with apsfilter/magicfilter. I am not aware
that there is anything better than this for my current printer.

Is there an affordable colour postsript printer? Would postcript
printers necessarily give better quality printing? Is there any printer
manufacturer actually considering producing a Linux printer driver?

Cheers.

-- 
Phillip Deackes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Linux v.2.0 

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From: Pasha Zusmanovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard disk copy
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:21:24 +0200

Brian McCauley wrote:
> 
> Zdravko Balorda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > how can I make an exact copy of a hard disk, along
> > with boot sector etc.
> 
> Use "dd" on the devices.  Actually, AFAIK, on Linux you can use "cat"
> or "cp" too but that's not as portable to other unicies.
> 
> > what if disks are not exactly
> > the same?
> 
> Then the question is meaningless.
> 

Not so meaningless, IMHO. Poorely worded, maybe. What people usually
mean is to make exactly the same partition layout with exactly the same
data on it. Very legitimate and often needed. 

(And to answer an initial question - though it probably obvious - first
do fdisk to create partitions, then do cp or tar to copy their content
(yes, with /dev and everything), and do dd to copy boot sector if you
are so inclined on copying everything). 

> Anybody know why this question is so frequently asked?
> 

See above :-)

-- 
Pasha Zusmanovich    -------o x x "What i tell you three times is true."
[EMAIL PROTECTED]          o o x L.Carroll, "The Hunting of the Snark"
www.actcom.co.il/~pasha     x x o---------------------------------------

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 17 Jan 1999 16:56:15 -0500

In article <77tesd$3c8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jim Frost  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>If the argument is that RedHat users aren't Linux users (ie they are less
>>sophisticated) I'd have to say that such statements are sweeping
>>generalizations.  Certainly that's not true of the group I run with, but YMMV.
>
>Doesn't Linus use Red Hat?  I'd love to see how someone who thinks only
>unsophisticated people use Red Hat deals with that little tidbit.

Tim, could we stop this crap? I do a large part of Linux hacking (VFS) on
FreeBSD box. So what? When you are hacking on a piece of system you bloody
stay with stable setup that has required tools. IMHO all arguments around
RH vs. Debian vs. Slack vs. SuSE vs. FreeBSD vs. whatever are worn out before
those beasts were born. RH got the largest share of lusers lately. It doesn't
imply that everybody using it is luser. People have extremely perverted
tastes - look at those EMACS users, for example ;-) If they manage to write
using what they use - who the bloody fsck cares *what* they are using?
Sheesh... Reminds me of lusers regulary flaming dmr for posting from Windows...
Frankly, all arguments a-la "You use bar, so you suck!" / "Foo uses bar so bar
is cool" should be carried via RFC1217 or, better yet, RFC1149-compliant
networks.

Proper followups set.

-- 
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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From: Len Huppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: lilo stalls at LI !
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:15:21 -0600



thompson wrote:

> > hey y'all-
>
>         so I am still having this problem.  thank you for your suggestions.
> too bad they didn't change any thing.
>         basically no matter what I do lilo stalls while trying to boot off of
> the MBR at LI.
> here is my lilo.conf as it is now:
> boot=/dev/hda
> linear
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/System.map-2.0.34-0.6
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34-0.6
>         label=linux
>         root=/dev/hda1
>         read-only
>
> I had compact in there but took it out (neither worked).
> had linear in and out
> I reformatted my mbr using dos fdisk and :
> a:>fdisk /mbr
> then reinstalled lilo, got the same result.
> I have done a bit on configuring linux and X etc so I really don't want
> to switch drives.
> although I guess I could try copying my / to my other drive.
> I have two drives:
> Quantum Pioneer 2.1 GB eide FATA2 w/64K cache, master on first
> controller
> Maxtor 4.3 GB UDMA 9ms, master on second controller
> CD as slave on first controller.
> (it was just easiest to setup this way)
> anyone pleeze have a suggestion.
> I AM TIred of booting off of the floppy.
>                                 thanks-
>                                         eric
> orig. message:
> >         Okay I've now had this problem on two machines.  I think I was trying
> > to boot off of the same drive but I am not sure.
> > I go through the install (first with debian 2.0, then RH 5.0 then RH
> > 5.1) and everything goes fine.  it installs lilo in the MBR of
> > /dev/hda.  this happens to be a quantum 2 gig drive.  master on first
> > IDE controller.
> > when I reboot it displays the LI of LILO but then stalls.  This is in
> > the case of both redhat installs.  with debian it displays 1FA: (I
> > think) and stalls.
> > this is an error code right?
> > this happened on my old machine and present machine.  I did every thing
> > right ASAIK.
> > so I am assuming it is something with my drive.
> > is it the MBR.  I am going to try dos fdisk using the /mbr flag and then
> > reinstalling    LILO.  I can boot fine of the floppy BTW.
> > will this work?
> >         any help will be most greatly appreciated.
> >                         thanks-
> >                                 eric

When LILO prints out LI and then stops, the problem is possibly a drive geometry
error.  I have seen this often.  I have found two ways of fixing this.  The first
is to go into your system BIOS and make sure you have LBA mode enabled for that
drive before you install Linux.  The second is to boot from a rescue disk and then
run liloconfig as root.  When you run liloconfig, make sure you completely
reconfigure and reinstall LILO into your MBR.

BTW running "fdisk /mbr" will blow away lilo completely.

hope that helps


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From: Chris Empson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Saving changes to Xwindows desktop
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:55:28 +0000

How does one save the look of the desktop in Xwindows?

I like to change things like the colour of the background & other stuff,
but after I quit out of X and re-start the server it reverts back to the
original settings. How do I stop it doing this?

Chris Empson

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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where did shutdown go? I miss it!
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:10:15 -0600

Frank Hale wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > When I tried to run shutdown, the system claimed there was "no such
> > file or directory." So I went to /sbin and looked and there it was.
> > But it would not run for love or money, not with an explicit path, not
> > when logged in as another user and then as su, not when logged in from
> > a new console. No matter what, the system claimed that shutdown did
> > not exist except for purposes of a directory listing. Obviously,
> > something bad happened to the file system.
> >
> > So I have my choice -- stay in Linux forever and live with virtual
> > files or shut the power off and screw it.
> >
> > I shut the power off.
> >
>
> You can't shutdown as a user who has su to root. It doesn't work on my
> machine and I have just did a fresh install the other day. Infact its
> never worked. You need to logoff as su root and login from the console
> as root before you can use shutdown. You can give users the ability to
> shutdown but I haven't tried it yet, you can do it with a program called
> sudo which I think comes with most distributions of linux.

Please take no offense if I disagree.  I regularly log in as myself, but I
always open one extra xterm window for su operations.  In that window I
have always been able to type "/sbin/shutdown -r now" and get a clean
reboot.  No special setup, no need to cd to any special place, nor anything
else of that sort.

The above refers to a system running RedHat 4.2 through 5.2; possibly other
distributions behave differently.

Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas


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From: "A.R.Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Beowulf Anyone?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:33:48 GMT

Is anyone here working on constructing a Beowulf System using Red Hat and
the Beowulf software?



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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: When I'm online, my hard drive makes noise...
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:26:58 +0000

Enno Middelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> *.*;mail.none;news.none         /var/log/messages
> 
> Ok, seems like its the last line which is the "bug". I think I'll go
> into the man syslog.conf and check how to configure it so that only
> warnings and stuff like this are logged.

Change that to (e.g.)
*.info;mail.none;news.none         /var/log/messages


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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a 286?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:37:07 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder) writes:

> No, Linux will not run on a 286. It needs to have a CPU that can be
> put into protected mode, which the 286 and its predecessors don't support.

Actually, the 286 was the first x86 CPU with Protected mode.  But it
was still a 16-bit processor.  And you couldn't get out of PM unless
you either got the keyboard controller to reset the CPU, or
triple-faulted.

There was a time when all I wanted in the world was a Tulip 286.  Hey,
stop sniggering you lot! :-)

> You could, however, try ELKS (don't know about a webaddress, try DejaNews).
> Or use plain DOS, and a simple terminal program to hookup your 286 to
> your RH5.1 box. Minix would work as well.

So sould Microsoft Xenix :-)

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: securing a linux box
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:32:35 +0000

David Augros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[Lots of good stuff]

Also, run pwconv to switch to using shadow passwords.

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want my network card back !
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:38:11 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (yongteck) writes:

> Hi all,
> I'm running Red Hat 5.0 and learning Linux. I've always have my
> 16-bit-ISA ne2000 compatilble card working fine. Last week i've
> installed the SB16 module (the sound is fine) But i've lost my network
> card. Ive diabled the sound card but at boot up i'm having 
>  "Delaying eth0 initialiazation.."

Looks like the ne module is refusing to load via modprobe.  Try to
load it manually.  Consider the error messages.  Read
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