Linux-Misc Digest #693, Volume #21                Sun, 5 Sep 99 21:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ("Paul 'Z' Ewande�")
  Re: Getting Caldera 2.2 to Work (Richard LeNoir)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (David M. Cook)
  Re: *nix vs. MS security (Jeffrey C. Dege)
  Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$ (Charles E Taylor IV)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Coy A Hile)
  Re: linux x A500? anybody can't help me??? (William McBrine)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Tim Hanson)
  Re: Server Inquiry (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Tim Hanson)
  Server Inquiry ("Eric Midkiff")
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Tim Hanson)
  Re: how to set up news server easily (Spike!)
  Re: News reader and email app? (Spike!)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Spike!)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Spike!)
  Re: Timezone problem (Spike!)
  Re: fsck after power failure (Spike!)
  Re: gimmick (Chris Mahmood)
  Re: True Type Font files? (Dan Nguyen)
  Re: Server Inquiry ("Eric Midkiff")
  Re: Restrict user login (Chris Mahmood)
  Re: anyone know how to make system.map? (Chris Mahmood)

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From: "Paul 'Z' Ewande�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 01:59:23 +0200


kozmos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
7qtsnj$s7q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<SNIP> Some stuff </SNIP>

> y) Linux in not yet ready for stupid win9x users (my opinion), it has far

Hmmm, yeah, right. There are people who have other center of interest than
computers. Some people really don't give a damn about how the computer
works. They just want the thing to work.

I'm not sure that you know everything about neurosurgey or molecular
biochemistry.

> too little wizards and that kind of shit. It's for people, who want to
know,
> what is happening in their computer exactly, not just clicking on icons
and
> wondering, why this icon isn't working :-)) It's more difficult to learn
> than Win9x, because you can do MANY more things with linux and you don't
> have "wizards" to help you, just HOWTO's and friendly, FREE help from
other
> users.  But when you know how to use linux, then you have VERY powerful
tool
> in your hand. And you know MUCH more about computers than stupid win9x

Which may know more than you about many other subjects. Despite what you
seem to think, you're not a superior person because you know and use Linux.
You're just someone who knows and uses Linux.

> users. If u want to learn using linux, expect many troubles and sleepless
> nights. But it's worth of troubles, especialy if u are working (or want to
> work) in computer bussines.
> REMEBER, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

Which may be hindered by arrogance, IMO.

> Za domovino,
>
> Roman
>
Paul 'Z' Ewande who doesn't feel that his IQ jumps to the roof when he edits
config files or use a command line.



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From: Richard LeNoir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Getting Caldera 2.2 to Work
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:49:54 -0400

On Sun, 05 Sep 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>   
>     I'm fairly new to linux and need a little push!
>
>My System:
>
>Compaq Presario CDS 924 (i486/DX) 
>Hard drive: Western Digital 6 gig
>Memory: 45megs
>OS: Win95/Caldera 2.2 dual boot with Boot Magic
>
>Problem:  I realize that the initial install of the Caldera
>kernal supports just the minimum system requirements and needs to 
>be recompiled to make everything work (like my sound card).  I
>have no sound right now and my linux partition runs a lot slower
>than my Win95 partition.
>     I've found both limited/huge amounts of information on this 
>subject but what I really need is a numbered, step by step set of
>instructions (based on Caldera 2.2) that will show how to recompile
>the kernal and get things to work.  I would greatly appreciate any
>help.  Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>------------------  Posted via CNET Linux Help  ------------------
>                  http://www.searchlinux.com


Unless you are just interested in compiling kernels, the way way to get your
system up and running is simply to load the modules that you want to run.  That
keeps the kernel small and you just "add-in" (and take out) what you wnat, when
you want to with the module method.  I suspect many will agree that the module
method is by far the easiest and the preferred method.
Rick

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:07:58 GMT

On 5 Sep 1999 19:02:55 GMT, Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>a)Have multiple groups open concurrently.

Well, I give you that, slrn cannot do that.  I have no problem with being
able to read only one newsgroup at a time, myself.

>b)Have multi-part binaries auto-assembled into single line items;queue 
>several for DL+uudecode;have that process running in the background while I 
>read/post.

Slrn will not auto-assemble, but the key sequence I usually use is

ESC s 3
select parts with the "#" key
start downloading with the ":" key

However, slrn is not really designed as a porn or warez downloader, but as a
news *reader*.

>c)Archive messages to folders.

Just hit "o" in slrn.  Messages are archived to a file (in mbox format) with
the same name as the group. These can be read with a mail reader like pine
or mutt.

>d)Have multiple sigs, user ids, etc, on a group-by-group basis.

You can probably do that.  slrn has something called group-lens, which I
haven't tried to use.

>e)Have windows for different newsserves (I use 3 on a regular basis) open 
>concurrently, with newsgroups from each displayed.

You can start 3 different slrns with the -h flag.

>f)Cut&paste from my newsreader into my mailer trivially (or any other app, 
>for that matter)

Left-click-drag to select text then right click at your destination.

Dave Cook

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:59:15 GMT

On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 16:34:00 -0500, Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Now, Unix has done a pretty fair job of moving into the business
>>critical space, but the mainframe is far from dead.  (And they
>>are showing a surprising resurgence.)
>
>Not sure why this is surprising, since mainframe hardware and software
>is generally very stable and very fast at moving large amounts of data,
>and since mainframe vendors are generally quite experienced at helping
>sites maintain an operational environment.

It's surprising to all of those who listen to the pundits who've been
arguing that Windows is somehow going to supplant Unix in the
enterprise space.

-- 
APL is a mistake, carried through to perfection.  It is the language of the
future for the programming techniques of the past: it creates a new generation
of coding bums.
                -- Edsger W. Dijkstra, SIGPLAN Notices, Volume 17, Number 5

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles E Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:29:41 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles E. Taylor IV) writes:

[all my text was cut]

> As to the subject......

[snip]

Don't you just *hate* it when someone leaves in an attribution and
cuts all your text.  *My* Linux boxes are fine at the moment, thank 
you very much.  You can stop e-mailing.  :)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 5 Sep 1999 20:00:05 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Spike!  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Only in the case of total X windows keyboard lock when the machine is not on
>a network is it nessecary to reboot.
>
and even then if you have magic-sysrq compiled in your kernel, you could be
able to salvage things.

Coy
-- 
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"

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From: William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux x A500? anybody can't help me???
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:20:53 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: AFAIK, you need a CPU with an MMU, this excludes the 68000, 68010,

Generally, that's true, but see:

 http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~pcoene/

-- 
William McBrine    | http://www.clark.net/~wmcbrine/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:07:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:

>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>Netscape is quite probably the most fragile program I've run under
>>Linux. You probably didn't have to power down, though. Ctl-Alt-Fx to
>
>I just had the priviledge of using it under Solaris. It is just as
>fragile there. It is Netscape, not Linux.

Netscape is not one of my favorite examples of Linux applications, yet it is
frequently the first non-trivial program a new user operates.  Its demise in
favor of (hopefully) Mozilla or Opera will be unlamented.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Server Inquiry
Date: 5 Sep 1999 20:27:39 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7quukm$8u3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Midkiff wrote:
> In one of the threads, some posted a website that a person could use to find
> out what a server was running on.

If you mean "web server", try http://www.netcraft.com/whats/ .

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:10:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flash) wrote:

>I can't wait until Linux has a stable Graphical Web Browser.  Sometimes I
>just Lynx my way through the web, because I dread the Netscape
>instability. 
>
>I love Netscape, when it works, but it is just not stable.
>
>This is the weak link in the Linux Web Surfing experience.  People assume
>this has something to do with the OS, but it never takes down the kernel
>(or even X for that matter).  Still, for a Unix application - Netscape is
>by far the most unstable, non-beta app I have used.
>

Note the new users first understandable reaction which is the Windows cure-all,
reboot.  Of course he couldn't have known that a new session can be started and
the process killed without pulling the plug, and he will assume, "This ain't no
better than what I left!"

>But if you look at the size of the modern web browser as being larger than
>some OS's, I guess it isn't that surprising.
>
>I hope the Mozilla project yields something usable.
>

Me too.


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From: "Eric Midkiff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Server Inquiry
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:29:57 -0400

In one of the threads, some posted a website that a person could use to find
out what a server was running on. Unfortunately, I did not pay enough
attention, and now cannot even find it in Deja. It would be nice if someone
could repost it.

Thank you,

Eric Midkiff



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:17:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lizard) wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
>
>>It was the 5 Sep 1999 04:54:05 GMT...
>>..and Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> First task, of course, is to find a decent newsreader. It appears
>>> there aren't any, at least if I want to use something a little more 
>>> sophisiticated than trn, tin, slrn, or other 'cat walking on the
>>> keyboard' inspired names. Those were lovely in 1980. This is almost
>>> 2000. 
>>
>>Huh? How is lack or abundance of eye candy somehow indicative of how
>>modern or not modern something is?
>>
>It's not. But here's what I can do with a Windows/Mac newsreader I can't 
>(or don't know how, I shall be honest) do with tin/trn/slrn/etc:

<snip>

>>
>There's no reason this coudln't exist under Linux. The question is why it 
>doesn't.

It begs to be written.  I'd like to see it.  

>
>(I should note my very-short-term memory is not very good. Having to flip 
>between screens constantly is not easy for me...having text displayed in 
>mutliple concurrent windows is VERY helpful. This has nothing to do with 
>'eye candy' -- text windows would be fine.)
>


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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how to set up news server easily
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:00:12 +0100

And verily, didst [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently scribe:
> What's the fastest and easiest way to set up a news server on my Linux
> machine (for just one person who reads news on that machine)? It's
> connected to the net via PPP over a phone line.

Leafnode is a doddle to set up...
I heartily recommend it...

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: News reader and email app?
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:08:06 +0100

And verily, didst Jack Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> Could anyone recommend some good News reader and email app for Linux?

Tin for news, elm for mail...

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:31:53 +0100

And verily, didst Kelly Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> Two things:

> 1.  Expect lots of personal attacks.

> 2.  I have not used all the software you have, but SuSE Linux 6.1 (6.2 is
> latest which I'd recommend to you) is a LOT more stable than anything that
> Red Slip (oops, Hat) can produce.

I use SuSE as well, but I see no need to say Red Hat is unstable...
It's running the same stuff in the same operating system as SuSE, and don't
forget, SuSE also uses the RPM format...

The only reason "Red Hat is more unstable" is because of the default window
manager... IceWm, WindowMaker, fvwm, even olwm are better than
enlightenment/GNOME for stability. 

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:27:55 +0100

And verily, didst Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> d)A few other crashes, I forget the circumstances. Rather than the robust 
> he-man operating system I was expecting, I find I am terrified to do 
> anything, for fear of having to reboot yet again. 

you don't NEED to reboot all the time.
If something goes wrong in X, press ctrl-alt-backspace.
This closes down the X session.

Only in the case of total X windows keyboard lock when the machine is not on
a network is it nessecary to reboot.

As you seem to be on a network, all you need to do to regain control of a
locked out system is telnet in and kill the application that caused the
problem. (Linux itself is almost always still running in the background, and
can be connected to remotely)... 

(At least when Windows 
> crashes, it displays a dialog box TELLING you it has crashed. Linux just 
> sits there, taunting you.) (I know, I know, "I kept my Linux box running 
> for 14 months and it only stopped because the local power plant exploded." 
> But let me guess -- it was running as a server, happily chugging through a 
> limited set of routines. 

Nope... Mine is on 24/7 normally, and I'm always messing about installing
and uninstalling new stuff. One problem I can see it GNOME...

Gmone is still a relatively new and unstable application. You're much better
off with a tried and tested window manager such as fvwm. It's not as pretty,
but it's a HELL of a lot more stable... 

> Now, on to software. First off, has anyone thought of putting in the 
> INSTALL text file words to the effect of "you better untar this from /, 
> otherwise, you'll end up creating a zillion useless directories where you 
> don't want them because there's no way to tell tar to go to the root to 
> start?" 

All you have to do is type 

tar -ztvf filename.tar.gz

This will list the tar file contents. I don't recall very many tar files
that DID require themselves to be untarred in root.

> First task, of course, is to find a decent newsreader. It appears there 
> aren't any, at least if I want to use something a little more 
> sophisiticated than trn, tin, slrn, or other 'cat walking on the keyboard' 
> inspired names. Those were lovely in 1980. This is almost 2000. I couldn't 
> find anything under X to compare with Newswatcher on the Mac or Free Agent 
> under Windows. Ditto, nothing to match Eudora for mail.

News doesn't NEED to be pretty. I prefer function and efficiency over pretty
GUIs in things like mail and news... News, after all, is a text only medium,
so the natural way to view it is via a text only newsreader.

> Of course, of the software I did find, I couldn't get any of it to run. I 
> attempted to install Doom (shareware version) 

Grrrr... Don't talk to me about DOOM....
Grrrr...

> Doom:Untarred it into my home directory. Discovered that it really wanted 
> to be untarred from the root directory. Tried to copy it there, found out I 
> had to BE root to copy it to \, su'ed to root, tried it again, untarred it, 
> tried to run it...got some random 'file not found' error.

??? 
Are you SURE about it wanting to be untarred to /?
I think you can untar it to any directory and then install it from there.
The file not found error is probably a missing library dependency or the
lack od a doom wad file. (You did install a WAD file, didn't you?)

If you did, try typing 

ldd /path/to/doom

This will list all shared library dependencies the program requires, and
whether the files are found.

> Gnomehack:More-or-less the same phenomenon. Addendum:The INSTALL file for 
> nethack tells you that, when you're done, to just type 'nethack' and play! 
> Unfortunately, it doesn't tell you the nethack executable is buried in the 
> src directory. It also didn't work.

Was it source? If so, did you follow the instructions properly?
The usual compile regime is

/configure (sometimes)
make
make install

> Thus far, this has been inauspicious. I'm not giving up -- I know most of 
> my problems are due more to newbie cluelessness than OS problems, and I 
> intend to dive in to man pages, documentation, etc, in order to figure out 
> what I'm doing wrong. But there's plenty of people who won't make the 
> effort, and, if you REALLY want to unseat Chairman Bill, you've got to 
> think about them.



> A few suggestions, mostly random:
> Why the SMEG does X write output to STDOUT when you can't SEE it until you 
> leave X? 

Simple. You can. <ctrl-alt-F1> will take you back to virtual consoles...
The X output is only needed if X fails anyway.

Also, they're sent to STDERR, not STDOUT.
(The error channel is different)

At the very least, the user should have the option of all error 
> messages being written to an X Terminal visible on their desktop. 

See above... X doesn't automatically start an Xterm... And if X failed, you
wouldn't see any error messages because X failed, so no X term.
Virtual consoles are always present while the system is running...


There's 
> nothing like shutting down X and seeing a screenful of error messages which 
> would have been a lot more helpful to know about WHEN I GENERATED THEM!

One option you COULD do is modify the startx script to create a log file of
the X errors and have an xterm doing nothing but tail -f /var/log/xerrs.log
(or whatever). 


> If you are going to have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen, make sure 
> the applications know it is there. Maximizing Netscape hides the taskbar, 
> for example. For that matter, clicking on the various task buttons (like, 
> to bring up one of my terminals) just plays a pretty 'boing' sound. I have 
> to manually minimize windows to find the one I want. So what's the point? 

That's a window manager issue. (I assune you're running enlightenment)
Try fvwm95. It too has a task bar, but the bar is never obscured by
applications (it pops up) and does pop things to the top.

> Is it just me, or is X rather, uhm, sluggish? 

No. X is fine. Enlightement is a bit of a hog though...
Again, enlightenment is OK for showing off to friends, but if you want to
work in X, stick to something simpler....

> Directories do not need version names, especially for enduser apps. 
> 'FooBar1.01-45A-intel-linux-2.0' is a *stupid* name for a directory. (Or a 
> file, for that matter).

That's just how things are...
The actual files after installation are not named like that, and directories
are named like that to distinguish between versions.

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|      Computer Science     | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Timezone problem
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:38:56 +0100

And verily, didst [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently scribe:
> Hi,

> I've had post a message before but I didn't make my question clear,
> so I'm posting again to see if someone can help me.

> I have a RH6.0 instalation and I set the timezone to GMT-3 that is
> our timezone here in Brazil. I set too the BIOS clock to the GMT-3

You should set the BIOS to GMT...
(That's the whole point of timezone settings. Linux does the calculations
regarding the time difference, daylight savings time, and so on...)

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fsck after power failure
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:14:42 +0100

And verily, didst Ollie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> So I enter my root password and try "fsck -a" but it doesn't seem to do 
> anything. it just tells me what version of fsck I have and returns me to 
> the prompt. same thing for "fsck -p", "fsck --help" and "fsck -?"
> Rebooting after each of these attempts changes nothing to the error 
> messages during boot-up.

It said do NOT use -a or -p options, IIRC.
The correct command is

fsck /dev/hdc5

> Also, where it asks me to enter my su password it also says that I can do 
> Control-D to continue a normal boot-up. but it doesn't work. All it does is 
> re-boot and I end up where I started.

It *should* say control D will exit the session and reboot.
(Which is what it does... Logout and exit don't work in an emergency
session)


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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gimmick
Date: 05 Sep 1999 16:11:17 -0700

Mitja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> My system:
> SuSE 6.1, kernel 2.2.7, KDE 1.1.1.
> G. card: Matrox Millenium G200 (8 MB)

> Some pixmaps are not valid: GimmickMode dissabled
>From /etc/rc.config:
# Pixmap which appears on the top of a KDE window, do not specify full path
# path name; it will be searched in KDE IconPath; no Gimmick if empty
# just try: "chamelia.xpm"
#
KWM_GIMMICK_PIXMAP=""

EIther this isn't defined on your system, or it's pointing to the
wrong place.  After changing anything in /etc/rc.config, be sure to
run /etc/SuSEconfig as root.
-ckm

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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: True Type Font files?
Date: 6 Sep 1999 00:39:19 GMT

In comp.os.linux.setup Jack Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Could anyone tell me where I can download the necessary ttf files so
: that my X-window looks like MS enviormrnt?

Download?  Don't you have them from windows?  You'll need to use
something like xfstt

: Be honest, without true type fonts, MS still looks better than X-window.



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From: "Eric Midkiff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server Inquiry
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:38:45 -0400


Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <7quukm$8u3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Midkiff wrote:
> > In one of the threads, some posted a website that a person could use to
find
> > out what a server was running on.
>
> If you mean "web server", try http://www.netcraft.com/whats/ .
>

Yes, as a matter of fact I did. Thank you.

Eric Midkiff



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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restrict user login
Date: 05 Sep 1999 16:04:55 -0700

"Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Did you know how to restrict number of user login at the same time ?
See the docs that come with PAM.

> How to the idle time and logout the user ?
idled(8)

-ckm

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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anyone know how to make system.map?
Date: 05 Sep 1999 16:05:33 -0700

Mitja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Reinstall Lilo
?????
-ckm

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