Linux-Misc Digest #813, Volume #21 Tue, 14 Sep 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
GNU Project seeks nominations for the Free Software Award (Free Software Foundation)
Re: getting xterms to display remote host names (Spike!)
Re: Random lockup with BP6 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: "Freeware" vs. GPL (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
rasmol ("Frans A. van der Hoorn")
Re: Internet Explorer (Robert Heller)
Re: Favorite Editor? (Jeff Gentry)
Re: Pico (Big Daddy)
Re: SAMBA 2.0.5a not stable as 2.0.3? serious problem here...:-( (Bob Hauck)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
Re: Lightwave under Linux with WINE (Spike!)
Re: Linux is Hard to Use p1 (Spike!)
Re: Internet Explorer (Spike!)
Re: What is RAMDAC? (Spike!)
One More Stupid C Question: Thanx (me)
Re: How can I disable su? (Spike!)
Re: News su to root? (Juergen Heinzl)
How do you mount Winblows drives? ("Michael Ramey")
Re: linuxconf for suse 6.2 (Spike!)
Re: Favorite Editor? (Matthew Bafford)
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From: Free Software Foundation <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce,alt.sources.d,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: GNU Project seeks nominations for the Free Software Award
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:11:59 -0400
[Please redistribute widely where appropriate]
The GNU project is asking for nominations for the Second Annual Free
Software Foundation Award for the Advancement of Free Software.
We want to give this award to a person who has made a great
contribution to the progress and development of free software (free as
in freedom; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html for the
definition), through activities that accord with the spirit of free
software.
Any kind of activity could be eligible--writing software, writing
documentation, publishing CDs, even journalism--but whatever the
activity, we want to recognize long-term central contributions to the
development of the world of free software. "Accord with the spirit"
means, for example, that software, manuals or collections of them (on
tape or CD) must be entirely free. (Once again, that's free as in
freedom; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html.) Work done
commercially is eligible, but we want to give awards to individuals,
not companies.
People such as Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds and Larry Wall, who
have already received this or other awards for their contributions,
are not eligible for the Free Software Award.
Please send your nominations to [EMAIL PROTECTED], on or
before October 8, 1999. Please put the name of the person you are
nominating in the message subject.
Please include an explanation of the work the person has done and why
you think it is especially important--but no more than 40 lines long.
Also please state where to find the software which your nomination is
based on.
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting xterms to display remote host names
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:41:38 +0100
And verily, didst Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> HI
> I guess this is burried deep in a man page but I can't find it.
> How do I get an xterm on my box to display a remote host name when I connect via
> telnet.
On your local machine type in this...
xhost + <remote machine name>
On the remote machine, type this...
(In csh or tcsh)
setenv DISPLAY <local machine name>:0.0
If you want the hostname to appear in the prompt you'll have to man tcsh.
You can
set prompt=
And use % to set specific prompt strings...
(I can't remember off hand all of them, but they cover the current path, the
hostname, the time, plus various display options such as bold on/bold
off...+ lots lots more.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Random lockup with BP6
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:40:32 GMT
Hmmm, do you overclock your board? Have you checked out XFree3.3.5
(tested on your graphics board)? What about the latest Bios updates
from Abit's site.
Do let me know if you crack this.
Thanks!
In article <7qlg4k$5h5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm running a custom 2.2.10-smp kernel with HPT-366 (ATA/66)
> patch on a Abit BP6 with dual celeron 466. I experience random lockup,
> mostly when recompiling the kernel. Sometimes, I just get timeout on
> the HPT-366 attached drive.
>
> Lockups seem more frequent when I'm running with graphics console
> (framebuffer) for the ATI All-in-wonder 128.
>
> My linux installation is from Mandrake-6.0 (RedHat 6.0 in french)
> Any ideas? Anyone having the same problem?
>
> My hardware:
>
> Abit BP6
> Dual Celeron 466
> Maxtor 7200 rpm 20Gb (5120 Plus) on Master ATA-66 channel 1
> Creative Pci 64
> ATI All In Wonder 128 16Mb
> Pioneer DVD on Master IDE1
> 128 SDRam
> Network card: 3Com Etherlink III Combo ISA
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Subject: Re: "Freeware" vs. GPL
Date: 14 Sep 1999 17:04:10 -0400
"Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I was wondering if anyone could either explain (or point to a web
> site URL that does), in brief and consise terms (without having to read
> through multi-page legal documents), the jist of the difference between
> "freeware" and software covered under the GPL?
>
> For example... if I wanted to distribute an application, make its
> source readily available, and give anyone permission to modify and even
> profit from it SO LONG AS THEY GIVE ME RECOGNITION AS BEING AN ORIGINAL
> SOURCE... would that be a freeware app or an app falling within the
> guidelines of the GPL?
>
> Also, is there anything "special" you need to do for covering an
> application under the GPL... or simply declare that it is so?
>
>
> Steve
>
>
Freeware - Usually refers to binary-only free-of-charge distributions.
BSD license - Source code is distributed free of charge. Anyone can
take the free source source, modify it, and distribute the modified
programs as binary-only proprietary, non-free products. The only real
difference between distributing something under the BSD license and
putting it in the public domain is that the BSD license requires all
decendants of the original source code to give credit to the original
author.
GPL license - Source code is distributed free of charge. If you
distribute modified programs you must make the source available under
the GPL license. Therefore, no one can modify a GPL'd program and
turn it into a proprietary product.
Collin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:03:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.) wrote:
-- snip --
> If Joe User can't figure out how to install a word processor, he won't
> use it. Period.
I disagree. 99.99999% of the Joe Users out there, who use Word
regularly, did, in fact, ***NOT*** have to install it. It came
preinstalled. Surprise!
This is a point that I keep hammering on -- all those "It's Gotta Be
Brain Dead Easy To Install Stuff" Microsoft Cheerleaders conveniently
forget that the vast majority of software being ***USED*** by Joe User
was, in fact, installed by ***SOMEBODY ELSE*** -- usually the OEM who
built the computer in the first place.
That's why I have a hard time buying into the "Brain Dead Install"
fallacy -- it just isn't a true issue in the vast majority of cases.
To be fair, about the only apps that I can think of which require
installation by Joe User on a regular basis are Quicken and TurboTax.
Oh, and screen savers.
But if Linux were available at Wal-Mart, with KDE and Netscape and
StarOffice and/or WordPerfect Office preinstalled by the OEM, and if the
OEM provided a bootable CD which wrote an OEM configuration image to the
disk, then, again, installation ease would be a minor issue.
Because there would be, for example, an Icon on the KDE desktop which
launched KRPM, for installing software.
Point and click. Just as the MS-Cheerleaders proclaim it must be done.
-- snip --
Curtis
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From: "Frans A. van der Hoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: rasmol
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:31:06 -0600
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Hi,
is there anyone out there who successfully compiled and installed the
molecular vizualization program RasMol?
I am using OpenLinux 2.2 from Caldera and cannot get it to work.
Frans
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:22:11 GMT
"Jody Thigpen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:15:52 +0100, wrote :
"T> Will the IE for Unix run on any of the Linux distributions?
Nope.
The 'IE for Unix' is only for *Sparc* Solaris and HP-UX (for HP's RISC
chip). In *theory* certain *i86* Solaris programs will run under *i86*
Linux (requires either static linking or just the right set of shared
libraries and the iBCS hack installed) (ditto for SCO programs), but
Micro$soft has *carefully* avoided making IE available for *any* Intel
(i86) UNIX or UNIX-like O/S, commercial or otherwise, including all
flavors of i386 Linux, Solaris i86, SCO, and i386 *BSD. Micro$soft
*wants* you to *buy* MS-Windows for your Intel CPU to run IE and is
only providing versions of IE for machines for which MS-Windows is not
available: PowerPC (MacOS), Sparcs (Solaris), etc.
There are fairly good rumors that Micro$soft does have a port *in house*
of a i386 Linux version of IE, but it is unlikely that Micro$soft will
ever release this unless compelled to by the DOJ and/or if the DOJ
(Federal Judge) breaks Micro$soft into two separate companies: an OS
company (MS-Windows, etc) and an *applications* company (Office *,
PowerPoint, IE, etc.).
"T>
"T> Jody
"T>
"T>
"T>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Gentry)
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 21:09:53 GMT
Richard Aleksandr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Please do not suggest I use xemacs, xemacs SUCKS. But, I would welcome
: any other tips on a decent editor.
How about "emacs" then? :)
You *did* say just not to suggest "xemacs". :P
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pico
Date: 14 Sep 1999 23:17:30 GMT
Scribbling furiously, lep managed to write....
:> I even tied it into to elm, to send mail. Fond memories :)
: Last i knew pico was part of a bigger package, called pine.
: Search for that, and you got both a mail reader and an editor :)
...you got both a BETTER mail reader than elm, and an editor. ;-)
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The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the
law free.
-- Henry David Thoreau
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From: Bob Hauck <b o b h @ w a s a t c h . c o m>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.smb,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: SAMBA 2.0.5a not stable as 2.0.3? serious problem here...:-(
Date: 14 Sep 1999 16:56:53 -0600
"Frank Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But after two days we get several problems. After an undefined time we
> get on our workstations suddenly an network- or file error (NT 4.0 WS
> SP5) and after restarting our program (MS-ACCESS 97 Database) it works
> fine...
Does you smb.conf file have a "deadtime" set? This will kill
connections that aren't in use. You might try turning that off.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:32:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rmd63$4ag$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>But if Linux were available at Wal-Mart, with KDE and Netscape and
>StarOffice and/or WordPerfect Office preinstalled by the OEM, and if the
>OEM provided a bootable CD which wrote an OEM configuration image to the
>disk, then, again, installation ease would be a minor issue.
>
>Because there would be, for example, an Icon on the KDE desktop which
>launched KRPM, for installing software.
>
>Point and click. Just as the MS-Cheerleaders proclaim it must be done.
For the millionth time, no one is insisting that it _MUST_ be done that
way... Only if you are targeting your OS at someone other than techies or
sysadmins, like regular end users. I guess your plan is for every home
user to hire a sysadmin so that they can install Quicken, or update their
browser/office suite/etc... True, some of this stuff may come pre-
installed, but what happens at update time? And with the proliferation of
sites like download.com, I have a hard time believing that most users will
never need/want to install more than the system comes with. The bottom
line is, this is why we have OS choices. Some are aimed at the casual user
(i.e. Windows, MacOS) and others at the skilled user (Linux, *BSD, etc.).
Reality dicates that users want ease-of-use, and they don't want to call a
tech every time they install a piece of software. Your argument is against
the whole concept of point-and-click. What I am saying (if you would
listen) is that there is a place for _BOTH_ point-and-click, CLI, etc.
Choose the one that suits you. No one here is insisting that you use
Windows, "wizards", etc. So don't insist that others do things the way you
think they should. Just as you deplore being "told" by Microsoft what to
do, we deplore your telling everyone else what to do. You are just as bad
as them, except you think you're right and they're wrong, so I guess that's
supposed to make it OK. You are really being hypocritical here. If you
would step back for a second, you might realize this. It seems so clear to
everyone else here... why can't you see it too?
>Curtis
Tom Dominico, Jr.
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lightwave under Linux with WINE
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:09:47 +0100
And verily, didst darren.priestnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eloquently scribe:
> begin 666 LW2.jpg
> M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0(`' `<``#_VP!#``4#! 0$`P4$! 0%!04&!PP(!P<'
Oh for GODS SAKE!
Not AGAIN!
PLEASE! Go to the clue shop and invest in one!
Just for the benefit of the hard of thinking, I'll give you a free clue
now...
DO *NOT* POST BINARIES!
Grrrrrrrrrr.
<1,950 lines of utter shit snipped>
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is Hard to Use p1
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:22:46 +0100
And verily, didst Eric Y. Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> 1. The Real Audio was very hard to set up. It would even
> give an experienced user a hard time. The program that was
> used was the third choice on the www.real.com.list of Linux
> compatible offerings. The RealPlayer G2 was not selected,
> because of the fear of using unstable (beta) software. The
> executable came in an RPM, which was easy enough to set up.
> Unfortunately, there were various Java classes which were
> supposed to be placed in the helper directory which were not
> present in the RPM. The RPM was installed anyway, It did
> not work well. When clicking on the link, the RealPlayer
> GUI would come up, but no sound would play. Nothing would
> happen.
Real have always been a pain in the arse.
I was using SunOs for 4 years at university, and Real Audio was akways the
one to fail, to the point where I simply refused to download real audio
files anymore. Linux is at least getting a new Real Audio player in the form
of G2. Unices are not so lucky.
> One even more annoying thing, which resulted in an
> unpleasant late night service call, was the cryptic nature
> of PPP failure. If PPP fails to connect, ppp-on should
> terminate with the message "PPP call failed". That is the
> least it should do. Actually, it should pop a dialog box
> that tells why there was a problem. Using /sbin/ifconfig,
> then browsing the log file for messages is too unfriendly
> for the non-Unix guru.
Personally, I have included a
tail -f /var/log/messages
in my ./ppp-up script.
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:42:50 +0100
And verily, didst Jody Thigpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> Will the IE for Unix run on any of the Linux distributions?
No. You might be able to get it to work under WINE though.
(M$ sees linux as a threat, so haven't ported any of their software to it...
Thankfully)
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is RAMDAC?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:11:48 +0100
And verily, didst Gordon D. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> I realize this must refer to the on-board memory on a graphics card,
> but it seems to be a hybrid word. What does the word actually mean?
Random Access Memory Digital to Analogue Convertor...
(AFIAK)
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:25:02 +0200
From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: One More Stupid C Question: Thanx
Hi.
Thanks to everyone who responded to this second message.
(I was using %d to print out the address of 's' instead of %p (someone
asked about that)).
anyway.....thanks for all the help
ali
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I disable su?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:03:49 +0100
And verily, didst John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> I thank everyone for the answer but is it possible for a user to just bring a
> su program from another box and install it in her path like /home/girl/bin.
> If I were the user who is thwarted by not being able to run su that is how
> I would go about doing it.
I doubt it. The system has file permissions to deny that ability.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: News su to root?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:52:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> Something I've been wondering about for awhile -- I don't have
>innd or inews running, but in the logs there's a periodic "(su) session
>opened for user news by (uid=0)" then followed by "(su) session closed
>for user news". I've tried deleting the user news, but linux
>complains. I thought for a long time that it was hacker scanning a port
>or something, but it seems to be right there on brand new installs.
It could be a cron job ... crontab -l as root will list root's crontab
and if yes, then use crontab -e to edit and update it.
Ta',
Juergen
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From: "Michael Ramey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do you mount Winblows drives?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:32:29 -0400
Stupid newbie question:
I'm running Redhat 6.0 and want to know how to mount my other hard-drives
(FAT32) so I can read them in linux.
Michael
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linuxconf for suse 6.2
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:56:24 +0100
And verily, didst Norbert Wegener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> I am looking for linuxconf for suse 6.2, but I cannot find it.
> Could anyone point me to an url?
Errrr...
Linuxconf is a RedHat thing.
What's wrong with YaST?
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From: *@dragons.duesouth.net (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Reply-To: *@dragons.duesouth.net
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:10:56 GMT
On 14 Sep 1999 22:08:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Schaffter)
enriched us with:
: Still, I'm not sure I'd wish it on a dog.
But I use vi!
: PTPi
--Matthew
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