Linux-Misc Digest #670, Volume #23 Fri, 25 Feb 00 05:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: partitionmanager (Gavin Williams)
Re: LILO patch for past 1024 cylinders? (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Tyan 1854S motherboard..is it good (Michael Hofmann)
Boot loader ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
enlarging the loop device on phat linux 3.2 (machmon)
Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP! (Igor)
Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP! (Igor)
clunkiness on linux (Irene Kavvadia)
Re: MODEM HELP !!!!!! (asage)
Best way to partition/installf Linux as a 2nd OS? (Kile)
interrupt handler not being called . (Nilesh Patel)
Re: Need advice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hardware detection and testing (Alex Borghgraef)
XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset ("Mees Mehepoeg")
Re: clunkiness on linux (Neil)
Re: Mulitple Desktop access question (Neil)
Re: XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset (Neil)
Re: XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset (Neil)
Here's why linux programs are so insecure !
Re: permission problems on vfat mount (Thomas Hommel)
Re: 3D Studio for Linux? (Raymond Li)
Gentus linux locations (Erik)
Problem with gimp (Reinhard Asmus)
Re: Here's why linux programs are so insecure ! (Arjan Drieman)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gavin Williams)
Subject: Re: partitionmanager
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:14:44 GMT
On Wed, 16 Feb 00 12:58:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Martijn Brouwer) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrew E. Schulman"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Does anybody know a (free) partionmanager for linux?
>
>I meant a non-destructive one. I just want to repartion my disk without having
>to install everything again.
>
>Martijn
One comes with the Mandrake distribution of Linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: LILO patch for past 1024 cylinders?
Date: 25 Feb 2000 05:20:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Hommel wrote:
>So, its not LILO who�s "buggy", its the BIOS. I�ve never seen any OS
>booting from the area beyond cylinder 1024, except on a SCSI disk.
Microsoft can do it. Windoze-98 can install with a pre-"int13 extensions"
BIOS motherboard on a hard drive with a single partition of several
thousand cylinders.
I suspect they have the equivalent of an ioctl() that says,
"See this file I've just opened for writing? Make sure all its blocks
are written in the first 1023 cylinders."
This would require a hack to the Linux IDE driver *and* Lilo
*and* the ext2 FS.
I'm surprised nobody's done it yet. Surely Red Hat could afford to
hire someone to do it.
There is already an ioctl(), that Lilo has always used, to tell you
whether a particular block is in the first 1023 cylinders.
>John Brock schrieb:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Cameron L. Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> >Considering the size of modern disk drives, the fact is that Lilo
>> >is no longer being maintained. The fact that it can't work
>> >around the 1024 cylinder limitatation of the interface between
>> >BIOS and the OS has become a bug. The workaround is to install
>> >LILO someplace special, either on a floppy or on a tiny
>> >/boot partition on the first cylinder of the drive.
>> >The LILO mini-HOWTO shows how to make a Lilo floppy.
>> >However, the fast version of the floppy still requires that the
>> >bootimage reside below cylinder 1024.
>>
>> This makes me kind of nervous. LILO is the official Linux way of
>> booting Linux, which makes it a key bit of software. It's essentially
>> the doorknob that opens the door into the world of Linux. And it's "no
>> longer being maintained?" This is bad PR, if nothing else.
It sure is. It's the biggest obstacle most Linux newbies have to
overcome. XF86Config is perhaps #2, or maybe sound.
Cameron
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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Tyan 1854S motherboard..is it good
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:27:30 +0100
Chetan Ahuja wrote:
> I would welcome any suggestions/advice etc on this topic. Is the
> Tyan board OK. If not.. why. Any personal experiences. Any other
> recommended boards satisfying the above criteria...
Just a thought.... I don't know this particular board but, if it's ATX
_and_ has an Award BIOS, stay away from it. The Award BIOS is broken and
doesn't poweroff at shutdown. TYAN also doesn't answer my emails
regarding this issue. I'm using the S1590S board. No more TYAN for me.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Boot loader
Date: 25 Feb 2000 06:19:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat 6.1
Hello --
I have been looking at ways to boot my machine in Linux from the NT boot
loader. I have decided to install LILO on my root Linux partition rather
than the master boot loader. And as it stands now, I can only boot in
Linux if I boot from a bootable diskette. I have used bootpart on a DELL
machine with a 4Gb disk before and it worked fine but when I tried it on
my IBM 10Gb disk it failed saying it can't read my harddisk. I've heard
somewhere else that I can use partition magic (PM) to do the same thing.
Has anyone had any experience in using PM to do this? If so, could you
please pass on any hints?
-- Cheers, Sudhir
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From: machmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: enlarging the loop device on phat linux 3.2
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:30:03 GMT
Hi there.
1. I downloaded and installed phat linux 3.2. It all went well and I
enjoyed it. Now I wanted to do some serious stuff with it and dowloaded
StarOffice 5.1. But when I tried to install it I found that there is not
enough reserved space in the loop device where the phat linux resides. My
question is if there is any way by which this can be enlarged "on the
fly", and if not, can it be defined before intallation so that I would be
able to install additional software packages.
2. When trying to add bookmarks to the included Netscape (as normal use) I
got the message "cannot save bookmark file" or something like that. I
assume it is some permission problem, but I was not able to find to which
files or directories this relates. Please advise.
TIA for your help.
Moshe
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From: Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:46:44 -0800
> Peter Tselios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Silly question, Why the ZIP-miniHT does not says that you have to set the
> >BIOS Settings to EPP or SPP?
>
> No clue again (helpful, what?) Why not take it up with the maintainer of
> the HT? Only takes a minute, and it may save folks like you much grief in
> the future.
>
> Dave Tan
This comment IS in the mini-HOWTO. Please check by yourself here
http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive.html
snippet from the mini-HOWTO v2.6 file published on 11 December 1999 :
http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive-4.html#ss4.1
Bios settings for Parallel ports can be a problem on some systems.
This does not happen very often.
If you get the message "init_module: Device or resource busy"
during modprobe and everything else looks OK try looking at the BIOS settings.
If yours has an option about parallel port controlled by OS then change
it to enabled. If you have any options about type of parallel port then try EPP.
This combination has worked the best on my machine.
--
Nothing is impossible as long you are not doing it by yourself.
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From: Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:52:48 -0800
> Peter Tselios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Silly question, Why the ZIP-miniHT does not says that you have to set the
> >BIOS Settings to EPP or SPP?
>
> No clue again (helpful, what?) Why not take it up with the maintainer of
> the HT? Only takes a minute, and it may save folks like you much grief in
> the future.
>
> Dave Tan
This comment IS in the mini-HOWTO. Please check by yourself here
http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive.html
snippet from the mini-HOWTO v2.6 file published on 11 December 1999 :
http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive-4.html#ss4.1
Bios settings for Parallel ports can be a problem on some systems.
This does not happen very often.
If you get the message "init_module: Device or resource busy"
during modprobe and everything else looks OK try looking at the BIOS settings.
If yours has an option about parallel port controlled by OS then change
it to enabled. If you have any options about type of parallel port then try EPP.
This combination has worked the best on my machine.
--
Nothing is impossible as long you are not doing it by yourself.
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From: Irene Kavvadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: clunkiness on linux
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:17:07 +0000
hello,
I have a most peculiar problem :
I run on a PII RedHat 6.1, upgraded to 2.2.14 with modules installed.
Because I am a systems support person, I have two 3c905Bs in the box.
Now, the Bs used to work fine on previous installation (SuSE linux, or
the
initial 6.1 installation with the 2.2.12-20 kernel).
Now that I've upgraded the kernel , it seems that if I try to telnet to
a
machine in our premises, it is kind of "clunky". On the same matter, if
I
try and ping the same machine (that too, a linux box) , it looses on
average
about 30% of the packets.
I 've tried everything. I've reached #19 on "uname -a" :-)
Does anyone know how to overcome this ? Could it be anything else ?
I thought it might be a bug on 2.2.14.
cheers
spyros
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From: asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MODEM HELP !!!!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:43:01 -0500
Hi,
I guess this isn't very specific, but here's the addie of a terrific HOWTO
site to help you with your modem:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html
My modem is also on COM 5, but because it is a Winmodem, and not of a
specific type, it won't work in Linux. That may be the problem with your
modem. Generally, PCI modems don't work with Linux.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, i just installed a 3com U.S. Robotics 56k faxmodem PCI(COM port 5),
> how do i get it to work w/ RD6.1??? the com ports for RH goes up to 4,
> what do i do???? please help me.
>
> thanks in advance
> Y.L.
>
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with primroses on either side,
Between their shadows and the sun,
the cows came slowly, one by one.
A.A. Milne
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From: Kile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Best way to partition/installf Linux as a 2nd OS?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:30:07 GMT
I am going to install Debian Linux as a second OS along with win98 which
is already installed. Should I use partition magic or another utility?
What is the best/easiest way? I know that I dont have to use these
utilities and that the installation disk will allow me to do whatever I
need to do in order to install Linux, but this is new territoy for me and
any input would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Nilesh Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: interrupt handler not being called .
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:23:45 +0530
hi ,
there is a device which is supposed to read raw bytes . An app
writes to a buffer , but once the buffer
gets full , the write-process-to-buffer should go to sleep , and a
bottom handler should take care of transferring
the data in the buffer to the device . now , what is happening is that ,
once the buffer gets full , no interrupt
is being generated , thus not calling any bottom half .. we are not sure
whether the bottom half is at all being
scheduled ? but the question is that , what could be the reason that no
interrupt is being generated in spite
of the interrupt handler being registered successfully . we are using a
shared irq which is for the present not
being used by any other device .
do let know the cause of the interrupt not being generated .
thanks,
nilesh .
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:56:35 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need advice
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> sheldon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : "rizan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : >2. Which flavor of Linux do you recommend ?
>
> : Strawberry is the best!
>
> Raspberry!
HaagenLinux(C) Baileys Irish Cream!
actually ive heard good things about SUSE and Turbolinux. RedHat is cool
because of the RPM system.
Macmillan makes a slightly easy-fied version of redhat called Mandrake.
It supports RPM too. oops i guess
SuSE supports RPM as well.
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
sheldon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: "rizan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: >2. Which flavor of Linux do you recommend ?
: Strawberry is the best!
Raspberry!
HaagenLinux(C) Baileys Irish Cream!
actually ive heard good things about SUSE and Turbolinux. RedHat is cool
because of the RPM system.
Macmillan makes a slightly easy-fied version of redhat called Mandrake.
It supports RPM too. oops i guess
SuSE and turbolinux support RPM as well. choices choices!! heres their
websites.. go investigate! the choice is YOURS (not redmond-boy's
anymore!) now.
http://www.redhat.com
http://www.mandrakesoft.com
http://www.suse.com
http://www.turbolinux.com/
of course, there are others, and any of the flavors are still linux...
[standing on a lectern now]
linux is like a piece of classical music composed by Linus Torvalds, if
you will. its still linux whether i arrange it or that guy arranges it
or somebody entirely different arranges it. its flexible like that.
hope this helps :)
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From: Alex Borghgraef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hardware detection and testing
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:41:49 GMT
Silly newbie question here: I'm installing a new network-card in my
PC at home, but I'm having trouble finding the correct io number.
Now I know a few ways to solve this problem, but all of them are
cumbersome and time-consuming. There's the trial-and-error method,
and then there's the 'see what it does in windows'-method. The first
is really time consuming, the latter is a total pain in the ass (PnP
isn't :-). Isn't there a way in linux to find out what io-number a
device is on?
Another thing regarding this problem is testing the device: after
setting an io for it, how do you test if it works. Rebooting is one
way, but I doubt it is the only one. Unfortunately, I don't have a
clue what other (faster) way there is. Can anyone enlighten me?
--
Alex
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Before you buy.
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From: "Mees Mehepoeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:25:27 +0200
HELP
I have RPMs for intel and graphic works fine
but sound not. Sndconfig found card but not
seting work. Some problem with modem.
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clunkiness on linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:01:02 +0000
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:17:07 +0000, Irene Kavvadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Does anyone know how to overcome this ? Could it be anything else ?
>I thought it might be a bug on 2.2.14.
Anything strange show up on a packet dump (tcpdump) ?
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mulitple Desktop access question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:02:20 +0000
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:12:49 +0100, "m.nine.six" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>as good as i know the run level for X-console on start-up is the 5. so
>change the 'initdefault' line from any number to 5.
Its run level 2 you want the machine to boot up to
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:06:46 +0000
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:07:02 -0500, J. Edgar Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>w do I use the agpgart.o
>file? Do I have ro recompile my kernel? The README's
>say I need a new module, is this the agpgart.o file?
No need to recompile Kernel. Agpart takes 2 arguments.
use insmod, or modprobe agpgart c 10 175 - then you must see informaiton in
/var/log/messages that the modules loaded.
Then you can add:
alias char-major-10-175 agpgart to /etc/conf.modules to load the driver at boot
time
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:09:15 +0000
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:52:09 -0500, Niann Shiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You MUST read installation
>manual line by line from intel web site. Installations of many linux
>drivers are not like MS window drivers, and probably will not be in the
>near future. I have made i810 chipset work both on Mandrake 6.1 and
>Suse 6.3. The intel release notes pretty much covers detailed
>installation procedure for Mandrake and RH although file names seem to
>have some error. Basically, you need to
No it doesn't !!
It misses out the arguments which agpgart takes !! I spent a whole day figuring
this out for Suse 6.3.
BTW: sound drivers - you need to buy them from www.opensound.com. There are no
gnu/freeware drivers for the intel 810i sound chips.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Here's why linux programs are so insecure !
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:46:09 +0100
Because you dickheads offer the source code of your programs (!!!)
There is not better present to potential hackers than to offer your source
code !
Hackers will exploit the bugs to the bone until someone reposts them !!!
http://www.securiteam.com/exploits/archive.html
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From: Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: permission problems on vfat mount
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:34:07 +0100
You cannot change permissions on a FAT drive with chmod because FAT
doesnt support permissions on files. But you can mount the filesystem
with the options "umask=000, suid". That should work.
Thomas
Jeremy schrieb:
>
> I have 2 vfat mounts, and they are currently mounted with only rw access
> for everyone but root of course. I want to change the permission so all
> users can have full access, but I am having trouble. I use this command:
> chmod a+rwx /winD
> which should work, but then when I check the permissions right after that
> they don't reflect the new changes....
>
> Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
> ---Jeremy---
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From: Raymond Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: 3D Studio for Linux?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:59:19 +0800
Thanks for your advice, I will download these software and try.
Yours,
Raymond
Raymond Li wrote:
> Hello,
> I wonder if there are any software similar to 3D Studio that run on
> Linux? Either open source or commerical will be nice.
>
> Indeed, I am not even familar with 3D Studio. Is Maya, Poser or
> other software do the same work as 3D Studio?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Yours,
> Raymond
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From: Erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gentus linux locations
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:51:55 +0100
Does anyone know of an alternative place to download this distribution
than their homepage (www.gentus.com) which has a user limit of 20
downloads. It's supposed to have uata66 support.
/Erik
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From: Reinhard Asmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with gimp
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:40:54 +0100
Hallo everybody,
I work under SuSE 6.3 with gimp. But my gimp don't have the function
guash.
What can I do ?
Thanks Reinhard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arjan Drieman)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Here's why linux programs are so insecure !
Date: 25 Feb 2000 10:07:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:46:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Because you dickheads offer the source code of your programs (!!!)
>
>There is not better present to potential hackers than to offer your source
>code !
/me smells a troll
/me beats TheEx0rcist with a cluebat
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