Linux-Misc Digest #681, Volume #23 Sat, 26 Feb 00 21:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Installing red hat on 3rd hard drive? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What is MAGIC COOKIE and why cant I run apps as su? (Rick)
.htm permission ("erv")
Re: Message box (Thomas Zajic)
sound broken in 2.3.47 (Michael Powe)
iBCS module (Scott Smith)
Re: top (or other) for SMP? (Chetan Ahuja)
Re: mounting permissions problem (Thomas Zajic)
mid for sound notification ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Driver for VooDoo 3 3000-2000 ("News")
Re: Linux... what is it? (Tim Hockin)
Re: Here's why linux programs are so insecure ! (Tim Hockin)
Re: backing up linux (Dances With Crows)
.htaccess ("erv")
Re: mounting permissions problem (Dances With Crows)
Re: Unresolved Symbols (Dances With Crows)
Re: What is MAGIC COOKIE and why cant I run apps as su? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Why module loads into kernel with compiled in driver? (Dances With Crows)
Re: .htm permission (Juergen Heinzl)
Linux can't do single sided diskettes!? ("Tony Harris")
Re: How do you pronounce LINUX?!? (Roni Choudhury)
Re: Driver for VooDoo 3 3000-2000 (KC)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing red hat on 3rd hard drive?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:02:28 GMT
In article <898vvg$qla$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm new to Linux. I have a 3 hard drive system and want to install
Red Hat
> Linux 6.1 on my 3rd hard drive. I will use the bios to boot to the
drive.
> Right now the drive is formatted FAT 32. Using the Red hat program I
deleted
> the partition so I could make it native Linux. Now no matter what I
choose
> it just gives me errors.
>
> All I want to do is:
> Install a 16M boot partition on my 3rd drive
> install a 200M swap partition on my 3rd drive
> install the rest as a /root partition on my 3rd drive
>
> I will just install Lilo on the 3rd drive also and use the bios to
boot to
> that drive.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> Freeman Cooley
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
Hi, I am a Linux newbie myself, but I understand that Linux cannot use
larger swap partitions than 128MB. Might not that be your problem?
Cheers,
K�ri
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: What is MAGIC COOKIE and why cant I run apps as su?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:54:13 -0500
When I try to run apps from a terminal window, after issuing the su
command i get the following error:
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xliib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
WHat is this and how do I fix things so I can run apps as su?
Any and all help appreciated.
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From: "erv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .htm permission
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:41:29 -0600
we just moved to apache w/ linux red hat... none of my .htm pages are
rendered in browser.. only .html works...
how do i set site wide permission for .htm
many thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Message box
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:42:09 GMT
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:12:33 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm looking for a simple program which displays a message in a
> messagebox. Something like :
>
> msgbox "hello"
>
> would show a window with "hello" written on it.
> Is this available somewhere ? A KDE prog would be nice.
Either 'man xmessage', or look for 'getgui' on Freshmeat.
HTH,
Thomas (BTW did you notice that Licq-0.76 has builtin auto-popup/-raise? ;-)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound broken in 2.3.47
Date: 26 Feb 2000 14:59:58 -0800
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Does anybody have a fix for this? Sound works fine in my old kernel,
2.2.12. But it's broken in 2.3.47. I managed to piece out the
cryptic instructions in isapnp.txt and "activate" the sound card, but
there's still no sound. This is what /proc/isapnp looks like after I
manually configure it:
Card 1 'CTL0024:Creative SB16 PnP' PnP version 1.0 Product version 1.0
Logical device 0 'CTL0031:Audio'
Device is active
Active port 0x220,0x330,0x388
Active IRQ 5 [0x2]
Active DMA 1,5
[ ... ]
But, no sound. If I try RealPlayer, it says it "cannot open the audio
device." My CD player plays the CD but just gives no sound.
What was the purpose of changing the kernel code so that plain old SB
cards are no longer automatically activated? In the old days, I had
to use isapnp to activate the card; then that code was put into the
kernel so it just loaded up automatically; now, they've gone a step
backward and left me to figure out again how to manually enable sound.
If anybody has a fix, I'd appreciate a clue. I wouldn't change
kernels but I want to use iptables. Thanks for any help.
mp
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that Visual Basic was a good product." -- Linus Torvalds
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Scott Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: iBCS module
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:47:22 -0500
I have an application that requires the iBCS module to run. It ran fine
on RedHat Linux 6.1 out of the box, but after upgrading to kernel
2.2.14, it no longer runs. I tried to reinstall the application and I
get the message: cannot execute binary file. I have installed the
kernel-ibcs-2.2.12-20.i386.rpm from the CD. I even tried the newer rpm
from the 6.2 folder on RedHats site. So far the iBCS module is not
available when I run modprobe -l | grep iBCS
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Scott Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chetan Ahuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: top (or other) for SMP?
Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:08:55 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ktop from KDE works for showing how much is processed on each CPU,
> at least for PIII's. I would like to find something that reports what
> process is running per processor
That may be a little bit more complicated than you think. Even
impossible in the context of top. Because the processes are not
usually bound to a single processor in linux. So everytime a process
is schieduled to run ( ie. gets a timeslice) it could start on a new
processor. This could happen several times a second. And since top
gives some "averaged" statistics from the past few seconds, this kind
of information would make no sense.
Chetan
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> David Topper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I can do a cat /proc/cpu and see my CPUs ... but top doesn't seem to
>> report usage as such. How can I monitor the load on each? I remember
>> top on an SMP Solaris box reporting stats for each CPU.
>>
>> Are there some other utils I can use?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dave Topper
>> --
>> Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music
>> http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p
>>
>>
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> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: mounting permissions problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:12:09 GMT
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:58:42 -0500, Robert Schweikert wrote:
> I am not sure, maybe it is me but lately I'm having a lot of trouble
> with all kinds of stuff. I am strating to blame the distribution (RH
> 6.1).
That's not justified here, this is a typical case of PEBKAC. ;-)
> Anyway, I have the following in my /etc/fstab file:
>
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,rw 0 0
^^
Change "rw" to "ro" - ISO9660 is a read-only filesystem (no, this won't
affect your ability to burn CDs - but that's a different story ;-).
> The device is a CD-RW. So according to my logic I should be able to
> mount the cdrom as a user
Yes, but ...
> but, well the computer disagrees as I get the following error:
>
> $ mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> mount: only root can do that
... that's correct. Try 'mount /mnt/cdrom' instead, and it'll work. An
ordinary user may only give _one_ parameter to 'mount', which is either the
mountpoint or the device. Everything else is taken from the corresponding
/etc/fstab entry. If you really need to pass more parameters to 'mount'
(which shouldn't be necessary with a properly configured /etc/fstab), you
have to be root.
> So where else do I need to set the permissions for this?
> I am running RH6.1 with GNOME and Enlightenment.
This has exactly zero effect on how 'mount' works, I'd suggest to have a
look at 'man mount' and 'man fstab'. Remember, if everything else fails,
read the docs. ;-)
HTH,
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mid for sound notification
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:33:24 -0500
Hello
In order to be able to hear the sound notifications of Licq while
playing a mp3 with XMMS, I installed esd. But in fact it's rather
slow, and it seems that it's not able to play fluently when my proc
is a little bit busy. Therefore I use playmidi... but... I cannot
find short mid files which can be used for sound notification ! I've
just one, found in windows' directory. Is anybody in the same
case, and possesses short and suitable mid files for notification ?
or a web site ? ok this is not directly related to linux, but might
help other people here who want to use sound notification and mp3s.
- Sacha
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From: "News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Driver for VooDoo 3 3000-2000
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:35:46 +0100
I can't find this driver on the net. if there is someone that can give me
some news please do it
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux... what is it?
Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:59:33 GMT
Francois Labreque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> It is
:> used in settings where stability is paramount, such as mission
:> critical servers.
: Gasp! wha? Serious site will not use Linux for mission critical stuff,
: but will rely on *proven* and *expensive* hardware and software from the
: likes of IBM, Sun or Tandem.
flame bait. Don't tell me what I do/don't rely on my my mission critical
systems.
:> The majority of the web is run off of Linux based
:> servers for example.
: Wrong again. While it may be true that some studies report that Apache
: is the preferred web server, you will find in the same studies that the
: majority of the web runs on Solaris or the many flavors of BSD.
no, you are wrong, orig poster is correct. More "plain old linux box"es
run web sites than any other single system.
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Tim Hockin
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Here's why linux programs are so insecure !
Date: 27 Feb 2000 01:01:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Because you dickheads offer the source code of your programs (!!!)
: There is not better present to potential hackers than to offer your source
: code !
doh! I knew there was a reason...
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Tim Hockin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This program has been brought to you by the language C and the number F.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: backing up linux
Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:17:46 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:27:51 GMT, George Couch <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>I finally got my Linux computer setup the way I want!!! Now I would like
>to back it up onto CDRs. What's the best way to do this? Can I just copy
>all of my linux directories onto mutiple CDRs? If I copy the
>files/directories back onto a blank hard drive, will it work when I
>reboot the computer? Do I have to do anything else?
Go to http://www.freshmeat.net and do a search on "backup". There are a
number of free (speech and beer) utilities that will help you back things
up onto CD-Rs.
As for restoring from backup, if your hard disk got completely hosed, I
think you'd need to boot from a rescue floppy with drivers for the CD and
tar/afio/cpio/whatever program will decode that stored backup stuff.
Getting the bootsector and LILO working right will probably entail running
lilo again once the filesystems are restored, since bootsectors and the
MBR are outside normal filesystem space and not usually archived by backup
programs.
HTH,
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Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: "erv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .htaccess
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:22:36 -0600
i have created a .htaccess file on my hard drive..
i have tried to put in on my site with dw and 3 other ftp apps...
it would seem that it will not trensfer to my web...
or if it is, i am unable to see it???
we are unix /apache w/ linux redhat
any ideas?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: mounting permissions problem
Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:24:52 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:58:42 -0500, Robert Schweikert
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Anyway, I have the following in my /etc/fstab file:
>/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,rw 0 0
>$ mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
>mount: only root can do that
...you've supplied *too much information* to the mount command. Y'see, if
a user could specify both the device and the mount point, some nasty
person could mount their own filesystem on /usr... leading to Problems.
The fix for your problem is this:
$ mount /dev/cdrom
or
$ mount /mnt/cdrom
which should work as expected. BTW, you'll get annoying error messages if
you have "rw" as an option in /etc/fstab for that device. CDs are always
mounted read-only; they're written to via the /dev/sgX devices and the
cdrecord + mkisofs programs....
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Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Unresolved Symbols
Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:28:57 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:48:53 -0500, Young4ert
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>problem. However, when I installed the driver under
>/lib/modules/2.2.14-1 as a module and did a "depmod -a", I got all kind
>of "Unresolved symbol" error messages. Then, I recompiled/installed the
>kernel and the error messages still persist even after a reboot with the
These error messages are *probably* a result of old, stale modules hanging
out in /lib/modules/2.2.14-1 . Try this:
(copy that Aureal driver somewhere safe)
# rm -rf /lib/modules/2.2.14-1
# cd /usr/src/linux
# make modules_install
(copy the Aureal driver back to the right place)
# depmod -a
(modprobe the Aureal driver and see if it works)
HTH,
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Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: What is MAGIC COOKIE and why cant I run apps as su?
Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:32:05 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:54:13 -0500, Rick <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>When I try to run apps from a terminal window, after issuing the su
>command i get the following error:
>Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>Xliib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
$ xhost +localhost
$ su -
# xapplication &
>WHat is this and how do I fix things so I can run apps as su?
You have a user named "su" on your system? Interesting. Usually the user
with UID 0 is called "root" or "avatar" or "god". HTH, HAND, RTM....
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Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Why module loads into kernel with compiled in driver?
Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:40:26 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:51:57 -0800, Christopher R. Carlen
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I compiled my kernel under Suse 6.2 with the serial driver built in.
>
>Then, when the serial service script runs on my system, the serial
>module loads. All sorts of bizarre data then gets reported by command
>line invocations of setserial. The knowledge the built in kernel serial
>driver possessed about my ports, gets lost. setserial thinks my ports
>are unknown. I can configure them again, but then I wonder who is
>driving the ports?
[snip]
When you're building a kernel, do this:
(normal kernel-build stuff)
# make modules
# rm -rf /lib/modules/X.Y.Z where X.Y.Z is the current kernel version
# make modules_install
# depmod -a
(continue with normal kernel-build stuff)
This will get rid of old, stale modules, which can cause funky things to
happen sometimes.
Also, check /etc/conf.modules and make sure things you aren't going to use
have "off" by them or are commented out. I have the line
alias char-major-4 serial
but if I had the serial stuff compiled into the kernel, I'd change it to
alias char-major-4 off
HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: .htm permission
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:43:43 GMT
In article <BtZt4.961$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, erv wrote:
>
>we just moved to apache w/ linux red hat... none of my .htm pages are
>rendered in browser.. only .html works...
>
>how do i set site wide permission for .htm
Might be I'm having a bad day, but this is the 6th (?) unrelated group
now ...
Step II, change the Apache mime.types entry ...
text/html html
... to ...
text/html html htm
... and there is no such thing as permission for .htm. As an
alternative rename the files, as AFAIK even NT ought to be
able to handle more than 8.3.
You might really read the documentation too, as this is basic
knowledge already and whether the default configuration as
supplied by RH is optimal and secure enough ... I doubt it.
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From: "Tony Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config
Subject: Linux can't do single sided diskettes!?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:01:18 -0500
I have a need to read & write 5.25" diskettes with the MSDOS 1.1 file system
(single sided, double density, 40 track, 9 sectors/track). The reason for
this is that I am one of those rare retro-computing fans and I still have a
functional TRS-80 model 3, and a conversion program for it so I can transfer
stuff between that and the rest of the world. Unfortunately the Model 3
drives are single sided only, so the best it supports are the two DOS
single-sided filesystems, basically 8 sectors/track and 9 sectors/track on
the above spec.
It's looking like RH5.1 (and higher) doesn't support single-sided
filesystems. Is this true? If so, does any other Linux version? Is it
possible to add in this support by recompiling the kernel or some other
similar method?
Tony Harris
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From: Roni Choudhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce LINUX?!?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:01:54 -0600
Rolf Magnus wrote:
>
> Grant Edwards wrote...
>
> >>So what? Should every country pronounce it different?
> >
> >Sure, why not?
>
> Because it makes it more difficult for people from different countries to
> talk about it without a real benefit.
>
I doubt there will be any difficulty. Americans say "Super Nintendo"
while Japanese say "Famicom"...no problems of understanding at all, or,
if there are, it's a matter of finding out they are the same thing. The
situation for the word "Linux" is even less severe than this.
>
> >Of course he has the right to tell us how to pronounce it. In
> >countries where free speach is guaranteed, _everybody_ has the
> >right to tell us how to pronounce it.
This is not really a matter of free speech...But the point is, it's no
sin if you pronounce it a bit differently, and as long as people know
what you're saying, no one cares.
> >And, we all have the
> >right to pronounce it however we want to. Last I heard, he
> >said that he didn't really care how it was prounounced, so it's
> >a bit of a moot point.
I suppose this really concludes the matter.
>
> Yes, ok. Perhaps my posting sounded a bit extreme, but I can't see what's
> wrong about not having hundreds of different pronounciations for one and the
> same word.
>
A bit of an exaggeration, in this case. I pronounce it "Linnucks", Mr.
Torvalds (in the famous audio clip) says "Lee-noox" (rhyming with his
name, "Leenoos"...the "oo" is a short vowel like the one in "oops!"),
and I've heard a friend of mine say "Lie-nucks" once and then never use
it again because we found said audio clip. So, there are two different
pronunciations, they are the American-English and Swedish variants of
the same word. When Linus says "Lee-noox" and I say "Linnucks," we are
saying the exact same word with respective accents.
> >Aw, c'mon, German has plenty of words borrowed from English and
> >French that aren't pronounced anywhere close to the way they
> >are in their originating countries.
>
> Ok, but Linux is a name, like Windows, Beos, Chrysler, Intel, and there are
> no big differences in Pronounciation of these names.
>
Linux is a name, but it's not a real word. "Windows" is an english
word...in my experience, people don't disagree about how to pronounce
the name of the glass thing in the wall that lets light through...thus,
there is one pronunciation of the name of the operating system. "Intel"
is associated with the word "intelligence," I imagine. Again, based on
an english word. Chrysler is a person's name, and it's one that is
easily pronounced in English. "Linux" is also based on a name, but the
name on which it is based is pronounced differently in Swedish than in
English. Because the actual man is Swedish, we run into problems
pronouncing the word "Linux." But who cares? People should pronounce
it however is most natural for their language. End of story.
roni
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From: KC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Driver for VooDoo 3 3000-2000
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:11:14 -0600
News wrote:
>
> I can't find this driver on the net. if there is someone that can give me
> some news please do it
http://linux.3dfx.com/
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