Linux-Misc Digest #697, Volume #23               Mon, 28 Feb 00 05:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader (ndg)
  Re: Windows v.s. Linux (ndg)
  Re: LINUX GAME: Circus Linux! initial release (v 0.0.0) (ndg)
  How to get further information about the other author (Don Saklad)
  Re: Where are printer drivers located? (Carl Fink)
  Re: LINUX ("jeff")
  SSL support for w3m browser? (Chris W)
  Re: Screen resolution. ("Farhan Ahmad")
  Re: How do I fax staroffice document?
  Max logical drives supported (Achuthan)
  Why Linux didn't like my 15 gig drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS?? ("Yasuaki Kudo")
  RH6.1 Boot disk ! ("mina")
  Re: dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS?? (Todd Knarr)
  Re: dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS?? (Dictator for Life)
  Re: Boot up graphics & screen corruption (Phillip Deackes)
  Re: dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS?? ("Yasuaki Kudo")
  Re: ASF and Linux? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  How to change the screen resolution ("Michael Westerman")
  Re: How to control this very powerful and simple attack? (Julio C. Gutierrez)
  Re: how to change default shell(bash) to csh (Julio C. Gutierrez)
  Re: top in background ("John \"Kit\" Burrows")
  Re: Finally Crashed Linux Today (Neil)
  Linux on Raid (jygjyg)
  Re: Startup Programs (Roddy)

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From: ndg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:49:00 GMT

lpr % s

Hans Dumbrajs wrote:
> 
> nldgr wrote:
> 
> > I can print from the command line, Corel WP7, and Xess; but can't print
> > in  Navigator or Acroread.
> > I put the same command in them that I used in WP and about five other
> > variances, but alas, a no-go.
> > Why?
> 
> What command do you use?

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From: ndg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows v.s. Linux
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:06:20 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> There is a strong competition, for example Nintendo never crashes.

What OS runs that?

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From: ndg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
rec.games.video.atari,rec.games.video.classic,alt.games.video.classic,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX GAME: Circus Linux! initial release (v 0.0.0)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:09:31 GMT

That's right; I've never seen anyone complain about linux.

Ken Moffat wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > And verily, didst Rodrigo Andrade hastily scribble thusly:
> > >>If these are the types of games I would play if I installed Linux... no
> > >>thank you.  I'll stick with windoze and play Half Life
> >
> > > Chill out, Linux will be dead after Windows 2000 and its consumer-oriented
> > > counterpart start flying off the shelves. Remember OS/2?
> >
> > Yeh, right. I really see home users forking out hundreds on buying win2000
> > when linux is available for free...
> >
> > Any schmuck that falls for the Windose millenium crap deserves everything
> > they get.
> >
> > Now begone troll, I banish thee.
> > --
> 
> Why bother with these types. If they want to play the windows upgrade
> game, too bad for them. They pay $$ for something they will just
> complain about, while linux buffs pay nothing and learn something about
> the workings of a computer operating system. You won't convince the
> gamers anyway. Talking to them just encourages em.
> 
> --
> Ken Moffat
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Saklad)
Subject: How to get further information about the other author
Date: 28 Feb 2000 00:27:47 -0500

I am interested in reading more written by or about another
author's Web links that compile my writing via
http://www.stormloader.com/saklad

How can you get further information about the the other
author?...



Copy reply to me via email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or please reply to me directly.

Cheerio!,
oo__ Don Saklad

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Where are printer drivers located?
Date: 28 Feb 2000 05:18:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:50:54 GMT ndg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What directory are my printer drivers located on my linux box?

It depends on how you're printing, and what you mean by "printer
drivers".  The "generic" Linux answer is at least plausibly "Wherever
you installed GhostScript", but some programs (for instance,
WordPerfect) include their own print drivers.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Guest of Honor in 2000 will be Geoffrey
A. Landis.  See <http://www.iconsf.org> for I-Con information.

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From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:51:36 -0800

If it's too late for that, head to the nearest book store and get a Linux
newbie book, which the answers to the questions that you're asking could,
and will, fill.  If you absolutely want to do this without spending a dime,
go to www.linux.org, and start following links.

Jeff

"ndg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Save yourself; quit computers while you're still sane.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I would like to download a free copy of linux os. Where can I find
one,and
> > how do I partition the harddrive without causung any problems to it. I
> > also wanted to know how to create a dual boot so that I could choose
> > between linux and windows 98.
> >
> >                                           thanks
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris W)
Subject: SSL support for w3m browser?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:04:07 GMT

When I installed w3m about a month back, I wasn't able to compile it with SSL
support because I didn't have the necessary libraries installed.  Can anybody
tell me what I need to install to give the w3m browser SSL support?  (Yes, I
know I'll need to recompile w3m afterwards.)

Thanks,
Chris

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From: "Farhan Ahmad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen resolution.
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:09:59 +0500

Thanx for the help, i deleted all the resolutions less than 800x600, but it
didn't work. The reason could be that there was a comment in the XF86Config
file that if it does not find the resolution in the file it will shift into
the default mode, 300x250 (or something close to it). I appreciate your
help.
Regards,
Crush2.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I think what you need to do is edit the XF86Config file(in /etc/X11 or
/etc),
> find the screen section, find the lines for resolution, and remove all the
> resolutions that are lower than what you want, save the file, restart X.
you
> have to be root to edit that file. good luck.
>
> Farhan Ahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I'm having a problem with my X-windows, probably with my display card
> : (SiS620). The screen was so big that the login window covered my entire
> : monitor screen.
> : I downloaded the driver and tried to install it from the character based
> : environment from the command they gave in their readme file, but it
didn't
> : work.
> : Can somebody help me with this?
> : Regards,
> : Crush2.
>
>



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I fax staroffice document?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:30:12 GMT

Thanks,

But what utility I use to convert it to postscript file?

chirag

Grant Edwards wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> 
> >I have both Mgetty-sendfax ,efax installed.I am stuck on howto convert a
> >.sdw staroffice document to G3 file as any attempt to send this file
gives
> >me unknown file format error.
> 
> Print it to a file in postscript format.  Then use Ghostscript to convert
it
> to g3 fax format.
> 
> -- 
> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  .. my NOSE is
NUMB!
>                                   at               
>                                visi.com            


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From: Achuthan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Max logical drives supported
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:30:12 GMT

Hi,

I would like to know the maximum logical drives supported by Redhat Linux 
Kernel 2.2. NT supports a max of 32 Logical drives. Does Linux have such 
limitation?

I am also looking for a Linux backup software which supports the HP 
Surestore Autoloader. Does Linux come with any backup software that 
supports the autoloader? Is there any commercial backup softwares that 
supports this features?

I am a novice in Linux but I would like to know more about this OS. 

Thanks in advance. 

Regards,
Achuthan Bhaskaran



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why Linux didn't like my 15 gig drive
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:37:28 GMT



I forgot to select "Use linear mode".

Just goes to show...RTFM!

The joke was on me!

Thanks for the suggestions.





Wade Segade

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (remove the obvious)

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From: "Yasuaki Kudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS??
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:04:05 +0900

this is presumably a very easy question but I've been seaching around the
web and still can't figure out.

How do you save files with emacs?  They say CTRL+S but it definitely doesn't
work.  Instead of saving the file, it pops up the message 'I-search:'.

Please help me....  I'm dying for it...

TIA,
Yasu


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From: "mina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.1 Boot disk !
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:01:40 +0200

Hello !
I have a Linux RH 6.1 boot disk, and I want to enter a rescue mode ! Then  I
boot my PC from it, at the end it asks me to insert a root floppy containig
an IMAGE. And the question is what does this all mean and how can I boot my
PC to have Linux in RAM?

Thank you !



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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS??
Date: 28 Feb 2000 07:09:58 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc <89d6dn$k38$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yasuaki Kudo 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you save files with emacs?  They say CTRL+S but it definitely doesn't
> work.  Instead of saving the file, it pops up the message 'I-search:'.

Ctrl-X, Ctrl-S should do it. Or when you exit ( via Ctrl-X, Ctrl-C  or the
'Exit Emacs' option from the 'File' menu ) you'll be asked about saving
any unsaved buffers.

There are also, BTW, 'Save Buffer' and 'Save Buffer As...' items on the
'File' menu. These should be easy to access if you're running under X.

-- 
Safety hint, dude ... never, ever get up to go to the john at night unless
you can actually feel your body.
                                -- Sonya Marie Gildencrantz

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From: Dictator for Life <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS??
Date: 28 Feb 2000 01:10:33 -0600

"Yasuaki Kudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How do you save files with emacs?  They say CTRL+S but it definitely doesn't
> work.  Instead of saving the file, it pops up the message 'I-search:'.
> 

C-x C-s

Try C-h t for a tutorial that will help you with this and other mysteries of
emacs.

-- 
Never send a human to do a machine's job.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Boot up graphics & screen corruption
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:34:45 GMT

In article <89brda$t12$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hollingshead wrote:

>Well it is a bit of a hack, but I suppose you could just put 
>"chvt 2 ; chvt 1" in a script, and then link it into /etc/rc0.d and 
>/etc/rc6.d as something like K02cleanup so that it gets called immediately
>that kde exits.
>
>I imagine it may be a kernel issue with the framebuffer drivers which
>isn't very easily solved properly though.

I have since found that a simple 'clear' command will clear the terminal
of video corruption. Any ideas how to issue 'clear' after exiting KDM/X?

Thanks for your help.

-- 
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux 

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From: "Yasuaki Kudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dying for help...  how do you save files with EMACS??
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:52:50 +0900

thanks!  Now I didn't know CTRL+X, CTRL+S meant subsquent actions... I
thought that both did the same thing.... arghhh.


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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASF and Linux?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:55:57 +0000

Evan Dower wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to play Advanced Streaming Format (ASF) on Linux?

Not currently. It would require one of the following things to happen:

1) Micros~1 releases a Linux ASF player (about 1 second before hell
   freezes over) 
2) Someone reverse engineers ASF
3) Wine becomes sufficiently stable and function to run Media Player

Erik
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
Microsoft owns Hotmail. Hotmail runs Sun Solaris on their
servers, not Windows NT. Does NT have problems?

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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to change the screen resolution
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:24:08 +1000

caldera open linux and a gate way monitor
when i try to switch to a terminal it goes out of sync the same happens when
i exit kde.

how do you reset this as i can't see anything when it happens

Thank you for any help.

please reply to me via email.
michael
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: Julio C. Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to control this very powerful and simple attack?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:42:35 GMT

Juergen Heinzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Julio C. Gutierrez wrote:
>>Hello all.
>>
>>A friend of mine sent a mail to me. It said something like  "Hey, I've 
>>been said that this line is able to make any unix system crash: 
>>echo "\$0&\$0" > _ ; chmod +x _ ; ./_ "
> Crap ... looks nice, really, but crap.
>>
>>I tried to make sense of what that line was supposed to do, and I realised
>>that it would create recursively hundreds, thousands of shells in seconds.
> Yes, that is true.
>>
>>I tried it, and, yes, it did it....  In less than half a minute, my linux 
>>box was trying to handle a load of 106, and the memory was going down and 
>>down...
>>
>>I know that there are ways in other unixes to control how many processes a
>>user can launch, or something like that, but I haven't seen anything like that
>>in the linux kernel, nor anywhere else. I tried using the "ulimit" bash command
>>but to no effect.

> Yup.

>>Is there any effective way to control this, either proactively (limiting users
>>somehow) or reactively (trying to kill all those thousands of processes once
>>launched) in linux?  I tried to use the killall command, but without success.
>>After several tries, the only two ways I found to stop it were:
>>
>>- Reboot the machine. Not too good when several user's are using its services
>>- Rename the offending executable file. Not easy it you don't know which file
>>  it is.....

> You should have tried this ...
> ^Z
> kill -1 %1
> ... and yes, I did.

Yeah, this could work if you were the one launching the whole thing and realised
that it would not be good to push your linux box so hard... but what if anyone else
does it?  What if suddenly several users start complaining because they cannot get 
their mail, or web pages?  And then you log into the linux box and see that it is 
trying to handle a load of 150 and up...  That is what most scares me.

> Thanks for playing, next
> Juergen

> -- 
> \ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
>  \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

-- 
Julio C. Gutierrez -- Please remove both X to send email
Penguins live only in cool environments... ;)

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From: Julio C. Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to change default shell(bash) to csh
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:42:36 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi
> i have a problem,pls help.i am doing a project on Unix that is running on 
> csh.when i tend to get the program to work in my linux(red hat 6.1),i 
> discover that the script does not work.linux is running on bash.so how do 
> i change the sytsem default shell to csh when i login.thank you.
> michael

edit the /etc/passwd file and change the last field in the line where you 
find your login code. That is the shell that gets executed when you log
into the system.

> --
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> http://www.help.com/

-- 
Julio C. Gutierrez -- Please remove both X to send email
Penguins live only in cool environments... ;)

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From: "John \"Kit\" Burrows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: top in background
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:31:21 -0800

On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:51:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I need to monitor the memory usage of a running process, but I'm having
>trouble.
>
>I'm not using a windows manager (don't ask).  I can run 'top' with the
>command
>     top -i -n1 -b > top.out
>(i = ignore idle processes, n1 = run once, b = run in batch mode)
>It works fine this way: it runs once, sending its output to the file.
>(Of course I'll want to set the 'n' parameter higher, but this is just
>for testing purposes.)  However, when I try to background the process
>(so I can run the program I'm monitoring), using:
>     top -i -n1 -b > top.out &
>--'top' doesn't do what I expect.  My understanding is that 'top'
>should run in the background, and exit when it finishes,
>reporting "Done".  Instead, Linux reports the process is "Stopped",
>and 'top' never sends any output to the file.  Other programs seem to
>work OK this way; am I doing s.t. wrong, or is this a bug with 'top'?
>
>I've tried vmstat, free, and ps, but the first two don't split out
>memory usage by process in a useful way (and vmstat apparently doesn't
>record usage at a granularity of less than one second), while ps
>doesn't have a way of running at given time intervals.  (I could use a
>shell script to make it run a certain number of iterations, but not at
>specified intervals.)
>
>I'm running RedHat v6.5 on a Pentium-class machine, with the bash
>shell.  (I've also tried 'sh', but that doesn't seem to make any
>difference.)  Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to get a version
>number out of either 'bash' or 'top'; the 'top' executable is dated 13
>Aug 99, for what that's worth.

Something like this might help. 

while x=0; do ps aux | grep 'process name' | awk '{print $5}' >> output; sleep
1; done &

This assumes you are using the BSD version of ps. Basically, you just cut the
field out of PS, put it in a loop (per second), and output to a file.

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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finally Crashed Linux Today
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:43:48 +0000

On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:15:39 -0600, Josh Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>> I won't try that again.  But if I get myself in a jam like this again, is
>> there a way out?
>
>Compiling in the "Magic Sys Rq" option to the kernel might help. Then
>memorize the keys.

which are ???

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Subject: Linux on Raid
From: jygjyg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:52:06 -0800

It is my first time to install Linux, unfortunately, I have
trouble with the installation.

I want to install Red Hat 6.0 on a Compaq PS 800 server with a
Smart 2 Array card. It seems that "Extra Hardware" does not
support Array! I follow the installation instruction till I was
told "There is no harddisk detected..."

Good begining is a half of the success. I am very disappointed
with this failure, can somebody help me?

Thanks in advance.

James


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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:04:58 +1100
From: Roddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Startup Programs



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi linux people,
> >
> > i have a quick query about starting programs at boot up. i would like to
> > have an xterm and some other programs start automatically when i log on,
> > so if someone could point me to where this is explained simply it would
> > be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thankyou.
> >
> > Roddy.
>
> If you want to make it so that X starts when you boot the computer,
> you need to edit the initlevel in /etc/inittab.  This differs from
> distribution to distribution (I think) so I'm not going to tell you which
> initlevel to use in case you have a strange setup.
>
> Read the manpage on inittab and that should help though.
>
> --
> David Allen
> http://opop.nols.com/
> ----------------------------------------
> God is a comic playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh

Thanks for the reply.

I'm already running x (inittab runlevel 5) but i'd like to be able to control
programs to start automatically after x. e.g i'd like to have an xterm start
automatically upon login.

Any help is good.

Roddy.




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