Linux-Misc Digest #727, Volume #23 Thu, 2 Mar 00 01:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: SB Live! Platinum front panel? (Vlar Schreidlocke)
Re: Which distribution is better (Newbie question) (Christopher Browne)
fsck help ("Stephen")
Re: RealPlayer ("Wesley Felter")
Re: Linux flavors (Bit Twister)
How is the PATH variable defined? ("Lord Petrosky")
unresolved Symbols in modules (nilesh patel)
Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Linux+NTFS ("bevyn quiding")
Re: fsck help (Dances With Crows)
Re: SB Live! Platinum front panel? (Vlar Schreidlocke)
can't get into X server (Dan)
www: nodevice.com (Janet Rokosz)
Re: unsatisfied dependencies (Grant)
samba problem (Jim Michmerhuizen)
HELP - Install Linux on Last Partition of a 30 GB Hard Drive? (Cameron Ninham)
Re: cdrom problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CRON won't stop calling updatedb!! (Carl Fink)
Re: Kernel Panic: VFS Problems (M�la Kuchta)
Re: Which MB for Athlon? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: recursive grep? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Compiling C to Dynamically Linked Module ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Non-root users can't login (Walter J. Slugg)
Re: recursive grep? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Netscape using all memory in linux (Bev)
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From: Vlar Schreidlocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SB Live! Platinum front panel?
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 03:10:10 GMT
What is ALSA? I will search for it.
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:46:37 -0800, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Vlar Schreidlocke wrote:
>>
>> Is there support for the SB Live! Platinum front panel (Live! Drive)?
>> I have been unable to get this to work even though it is correctly
>> hooked up to the SB Live! card.
>
>Have you try ALSA?
>
>It works on my first try.
>
>Alex Lam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which distribution is better (Newbie question)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 03:23:03 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Bal�zs J�vor would say:
>I'm more or less a newbie to Linux (although not entirely), and I'd find it
>dard to decide
>which distribution I should go with.
The usual answer is:
"What I'm using now is the best, and the others are all worthless
rubbish that you should never consider!"
>I'm not new to computers though, so I'm don't necessarily look for the
>distribution which is the easiest to install or maintain.
That means that you *don't* rule out Slackware, which tends to require
more hands-on maintenance, or Debian, which has not had the same
attention paid to "making the installation process pretty for people
that think that if it's not graphical, it must not be user-friendly."
>What I would like to do is to learn Linux inside out, if possible.
A useful approach in *that* regard is to try out Slackware, install a
bunch of additional components by hand, aggressively stressing the
system to the point of failure, and then reinstalling from scratch.
With a little planning on how you partition your disk, you don't
necessarily have to lose any data that you care about. (Which is a
generally useful thing to understand... The brief description is that
you have partitions dedicated to /home and /usr/local, and those don't
need to get reinitialized when you reinstall...)
>Also among my primary concerns are flexibility and availablility of
>many applicaions etc.
>Now many apps come out claiming to be for RedHat or SuSE etc. I've
>read that you can get those packages to work with other
>distributions, but I've also read that because of the different
>distributions use different directory structures it may still be
>problematic.
This can be the case if you try to install an RPM package compiled for
Red Hat (or SuSE) on another distribution.
If, in contrast, you compile software yourself, this is generally not
an issue.
Furthermore, if you want the *largest* application list, you want to
look at Debian, which has about 5000-odd packages available.
>I've also read somewhere that Debian is good because it's entirely
>"non-profit" (which I like), but also noticed that RedHat seems to be
>the most popular, and also the most "commercialized" (Which I have
>mixed feelings for, since it meens a lot of apps, but can also mean
>"unique" solutions and all other possible negative effects of
>commercialism as well in the long run.)
>And of course there are dozens of other distributions left.
>I know this is a bit subjective matter, but I would still appreciate
>some opinions so I could easier decide for which one to go.
One bit of useful learning experience would be to install several
different distributions on your computer, and "comparison shopping,"
as it were.
If you go to <http://www.linuxcentral.com/>, <http://www.lsl.com/>,
<http://www.cheapbytes.com/>, you'll find that you can get CDs for
various distributions for about $2 apiece. With the base shipping
charge of $5-$7, it makes perfect sense to order several different
ones.
One thought I'd commend would be to head to CheapBytes, and order
SuSE, Red Hat, Debian, Storm Linux (a Debian derivative), Mandrake,
Slackware, and the book _LINUX Volume 1: ac to zcat the basics_.
That'll cost you a total of about $30, and provide you some useful
literature to boot.
There should be a high degree of interoperability between Mandrake and
Red Hat, so that you can use packages for one with the other, as well
as between Storm Linux and Debian.
In the last few months, I've installed and used all of:
- Debian
- OpenBSD
- TurboLinux
- Mandrake 6.0
- SuSE 6.1
- Corel Linux
- Red Hat 6.0
on a laptop that I picked up. The present state of the laptop is that
it's running Corel Linux, with lots of Debian stuff installed on top
of that.
--
Is the surface of a planet the right place for an expanding
technological civilization?
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From: "Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fsck help
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:28:37 -0500
how do you use the command fsck, i cant seem to get linux after an improper
shutdown there is also command i believe called e3fsck i used it once before
but dont remember the order in which it typed
thanks
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From: "Wesley Felter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: RealPlayer
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 03:43:10 GMT
Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In <89f2p3$s34$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Wesley Felter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> > Yeah, but how do you save the files in the first place? The
RealProtocols
> > are RealUndocumented.
>
> Usually you can get at them by reading the HTML. IIRC, the HTML usually
> contains a reference to a .rpm file (nothing to do with Linux RPM) which
> is text-based, containing the name of the .rm file, which is the thing
> you want to save.
If the .rpm file contains a pnm: URL, then you need to use the PNM protocol
to download the actual .rm file. And the PNM protocol is still undocumented.
In the case where the author isn't using a RealServer but is just serving
.rm files over HTTP, you're right that it's trivial to download them.
However, RealServer is the selling point of the RealSystem.
Wesley Felter - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: Linux flavors
Reply-To: The news group
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 04:00:26 GMT
http://207.178.22.52/lj-issues/distable.html
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:44:09 -0500, OOrkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm a little confused. I am trying to leave Win98 and move on to Linux, but
>I cant figure out what is the real difference between all those Linux
>flavors (Red Hat, Mandrake, Debian etc...) ? I just got Debian Linux, was
>that a good move ?
>Any feedback would be apreciated. Thanx !
>
>
--
The warrenty and liability expired as you read the message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: "Lord Petrosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: How is the PATH variable defined?
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:07:21 -0500
hi,
i understand this environmental variable is patched together using various
scripts during bootup and logon (of a given user). does anyone have a clear
and complete picture of how a RedHat 6.0 box works in this regard?
tia,
LP
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From: nilesh patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: unresolved Symbols in modules
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:45:27 +0530
I am able to compile a module but when I try to insmod it it says
that the printk_R**** is unresolved .
What is the reason for the unresolved symbols ??
Nilesh
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:05:16 -0800
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, nldgr wrote:
> You're saying you can print by invoking /usr/bin/lpr % s? If you are,
> then there must be something wrong with my computer. I've tried every
> sequence of commands that are related to whatever; I'm missing something
> somewhere; but I don't know what.
well, /usr/bin/lpr should indeed print - don't think you need the %s for
this one.
Gerald
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From: "bevyn quiding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux+NTFS
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 03:37:59 GMT
Haral Tsitsivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> mina wrote:
> >
> > Hello !
> > Is it possible to get read-write access to NTFS disk via RH6.1?
> >
> > Thank you !
>
> Use Explore2fs: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm
yes it is there it requires a kernal recompile. I use ntfs read-only from
linux read-write
is available but use at your own risk basically.
under filesystem options of a recompile it will give options enable the
ntfs ones as well as
any others you want (you should always have ext2fs) do a recompile reboot
et voila.
Bevyn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: fsck help
Date: 01 Mar 2000 23:23:47 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:28:37 -0500, Stephen
<<5blv4.236$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>how do you use the command fsck, i cant seem to get linux after an improper
>shutdown there is also command i believe called e3fsck i used it once before
>but dont remember the order in which it typed
1. Boot in single-user mode by entering "linux S" at the LILO prompt.
2. e2fsck -y /dev/hdXX where XX is the ID of the partition you want to
check. The -y option makes it so you answer "y" to each question e2fsck
asks, which you almost always want to do!
3. repeat step 2 for all the partitions you want to check.
4. shutdown -r now (ignore error messages that might be generated)
I don't know about the e3fsck program; I'd think that's for the ext3
filesystem, which is still in beta. Are you using it? If so, then you
probably know more about what to do than I, since I haven't tried ext3
yet....
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There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: Vlar Schreidlocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SB Live! Platinum front panel?
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 04:31:38 GMT
Are you able to get sound out of the FRONT panel, also known as the
Live! Drive? This is the separate panel that mounts in a drive bay and
connects to the SB Live! card in the computer.
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:46:37 -0800, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Vlar Schreidlocke wrote:
>>
>> Is there support for the SB Live! Platinum front panel (Live! Drive)?
>> I have been unable to get this to work even though it is correctly
>> hooked up to the SB Live! card.
>
>Have you try ALSA?
>
>It works on my first try.
>
>Alex Lam.
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't get into X server
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 04:31:37 GMT
I have linux mandrake 6.1, and when i try booting into it, when i trys to
going to the X server my moniter just flashes on and off, and it does that
until i press control-alt-delete. I have files in there i need but i don't
knwo how to fix the problem.
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From: Janet Rokosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: www: nodevice.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 04:38:08 GMT
http://nodevice.com - Linux website for programmers.
Tutorials, documentation, access to the newsgroups, howtos,
faqs and similiar crap :)
Covers C/C++, Perl, Linux, shells, databases.
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From: Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unsatisfied dependencies
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 04:42:35 GMT
root wrote:
> Every time I try to install an RPM I get this list of unsatisfied
> dependencies
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
> libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
> I am using Caldera 2.2 Kernel 2.2.10
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanx
I checked and GLIBC 2.1 is there and libstdc++ is there but libc6.1 isnt
there,libc5 is instead.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Michmerhuizen)
Subject: samba problem
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:53:02 GMT
Machine A is RH6.1 running samba 2.0.5; machine B is running Win98. I
can mount all the B shares on A with
mount -t smb //B/share /mnt/B/share
and I can see the A shares in B's network neighborhood, but I can't
access them - when I do, I get asked for a password, and all the
passwords I supply are rejected. The password request message says
You need a password to access this service:
//A/IPC$
I shouldn't be needing a password, because all of the A shares are (at
least while I'm still experimenting) public.
help? anybody?
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From: Cameron Ninham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.list
Subject: HELP - Install Linux on Last Partition of a 30 GB Hard Drive?
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:54:54 -0600
I have a computer with a 30 GB hard drive. The drive is partitioned
into three sections, each roughly 9 GM in size. On the first and second
partition I have Windows NT and 98 installed respectively (for work
purposes *smile*). I wish to install Linux (either RedHat or Debian) on
the last partition.
Can I install Linux on the last section of a 30 GB drive? Will Linux
operate and function normally?
My reason for asking this question is that with Windows NT during
boot-up the Kernel cannot access anything on the primary drive after the
first 2 GB address space -- this is also critical for the Blue Screen of
Death and Core Memory Dumps, etc. I guess this is due to the limitation
of a 16 bit address operating system???
I would appreciate it if you could, in addition replying the the News
group, email me your responses also, please. I am working at a client
site where I do not have readily access to the Internet, USENET, etc.
Thank you.
Cameron Ninham
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cdrom problem
Date: 2 Mar 2000 04:37:55 -0800
In article <89ic7g$98e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Li Zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have burded a CD. However when I try to mount it on my machine, the
>following error happens:
>
>hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0{Busy}
>hdc: ATAPI reset complete
>ATAPI device hdc:
> Error: Unit attention -- (sense key=0x06)
...<snip>...
I used to have similar problems with CDs that I burned myself.
They'd work in the high quality SCSI CD drive that I recorded with, but
were frequently difficult to read for my old ATAPI CD drive. I suspect
that recordable CDs have slightly different reflectivity or other things
that make them more 'marginal' for an old CD drive. However, I used
a cleaner for CDs from Discwasher (it's designed for audio CDs so you
need to have the CD in workbone mode or something), and it improved it's
performance on data CDs enormously.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: CRON won't stop calling updatedb!!
Date: 2 Mar 2000 04:09:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:55:48 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . . . All of a sudden, updatedb took 2 hours to run, and kept
>running over night while I left my computer on. I rebooted several
>times and it still keeps running. Also, I took out the updatedb
>script from the cron.daily directory, and it's still running. It
>slows my system to a crawl! How can I stop updatedb from constantly
>running??
Well, you could become root and "killall updatedb". If some process
starts it again too often, you could rename the updatedb program
until you figure out what's up.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Guest of Honor in 2000 will be Geoffrey
A. Landis. See <http://www.iconsf.org> for I-Con information.
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From: M�la Kuchta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: VFS Problems
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:02:06 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey all:
>=20
> I just compiled dev kernel 2.3.47. I used this process.
> make menuconfig
> make dep
> make bzImage
> and
> make bzdisk
>=20
> I copied the bzImage to my boot directory and added it to lilo.conf. I
> ran lilo.conf and all was ok.
>=20
> Upon reboot from either the diskette or using hda, I get a problem that
> has to do with VFS
>=20
> Something like,
> Kernel Panic: Unable to mount root filesystem 03:03
Try to type in lilo boot
Lilo: linux (or what you label it) root=3D/dev/hda3
Mila Kuchta
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which MB for Athlon?
Date: 2 Mar 2000 04:52:21 -0800
I suggest you read some recent articles at http://www.tomshardware.com.
In particular, he had a series recently about chipsets for the Athlon.
Basically, the chipsets are made by Via, and they were slow in coming out
with one (the KPX133) that allowed the Athlon to really do its thing.
I think now AMD is planning on making their own chipsets in the future so
they can control these timing problems. Also, Via is getting into the CPU
business themselves, so they will be competitors as well as suppliers for AMD.
In article <38bd11b8@nap-ns1>, Matthew Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't say much about Athlon's, as I haven't had any experience in setting
>any up. I can say this though - make sure to get 200MHz RAM, as your Front
>Side Bus can be only as fast as the RAM.
>The Adaptec 2920 (aha/aic78xx chipset) SCSI controller works well.
>I have a Matrox G400 (I think) AGP 8Mb video card, which works wuite well.
>
>For VMWare - make sure you have PLENTY of HDD space and RAM. I recommend not
>less than 128Mb of RAM, and at allow at least 2, if not 4Gb of HDD space for
>each OS you plan to use with VMWare, on top of 3-4Gb for Linux.
>
>"Hemant Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:89ehvr$g64$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am looking at buying/building a system around AMD Athlon (sp?)
>processor.
>> Which motherboard (200 MHz bus) works best with Linux?
>> Which SCSI controller should I buy?
>> Which video card works best with XFree 86?
>>
>> I want to run vmware on it so that I can run Linux and win98(or NT)
>> simultaneously.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Hemant Shah /-------------------\ ^~~~~^
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |TECHNOLOGY | | |
>> |No place for wimps | o|-OO-|o
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>> I haven't lost my mind, Above opinions are mine only.
>> it's backed up on tape somewhere. Others can have their own.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: recursive grep?
Date: 1 Mar 2000 23:14:34 -0600
In article <89jks9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew Arrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there anyway to grep for a a specific strings recursively throughout an
>entire directory and all it's sub-directories?
>
>$ grep "stringIwant" *.*
>
>But I want more than just *.*, I want all the files in every sub-directory
>too.
>
First note that *.* means only filenames that include a . somewhere.
For a few subdirectory levels you can let the shell do the work:
grep stringIwant * */* */*/*
or for unlimited depth let find generate the list:
find . -print |xargs grep stringIwant
possibly using find's nearly unlimited options to limit
the selection.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Compiling C to Dynamically Linked Module
Date: 2 Mar 2000 05:09:04 -0800
In article <GCiv4.4220$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Buck Turgidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Any idea on how to compile a C program to be dynamically linkable, like a
>DLL or a .so file in Solaris?
>
>
I think the Linux ELF howto gives directions on how to build a
shared library, which I believe is what you want.
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From: Walter J. Slugg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Non-root users can't login
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 05:30:32 GMT
Here is what I did to resolve that. Yes you will need to login as root to
do this.
After logging in you will need to goto the /home of each user and remove
the desktop folder. I sugest you rename them just incase you have settings
you would like to restore something. If this stil does not help might have
premisins set wrog somewhere and would need to test a new user by creating
a new userand loggin in as him. If this is what worked a simple fix not
always going to fix it would be to try changeing the passwords of the
users. Well not have that issues I hope this happens I had the reverse and
removing the desktop folder worked for me. I was unable to login as root.
Had to login and then su -.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: recursive grep?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 05:41:02 GMT
On 1 Mar 2000 23:14:34 -0600, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <89jks9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Andrew Arrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Is there anyway to grep for a a specific strings recursively
>>throughout an entire directory and all it's sub-directories?
>>
>>$ grep "stringIwant" *.*
>>
>>But I want more than just *.*, I want all the files in every sub-directory
>>too.
>>
>
>First note that *.* means only filenames that include a . somewhere.
>For a few subdirectory levels you can let the shell do the work:
> grep stringIwant * */* */*/*
>or for unlimited depth let find generate the list:
> find . -print |xargs grep stringIwant
>possibly using find's nearly unlimited options to limit the selection.
Still in most cases it is easier to do:
$ grep -r "stringIwant" *
It does work with relatively recent versions of grep. I use it on a
regular basis.
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Hal B
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape using all memory in linux
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:58:41 -0800
linux user wrote:
>
> Version 4.72 is out. Maybe we will be more lucky :)
All pigs fed and ready to fly.
Mine even hangs while I'm reading news. Shame it's the only crapgame in town.
> Leonard Evens wrote:
> >
> > It is a scandal that this has not yet been fixed.
Supposedly Mozilla is almost ready for beta. See first comment.
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