Linux-Misc Digest #785, Volume #23                Wed, 8 Mar 00 08:13:02 EST

Contents:
  tcsh up/down arrow history broken (K. Bruner)
  Burner is dead? Or not? SuSE6.2 (Jojo und Jessica)
  Hisax Logfloading-problem (Rob)
  Re: Svgalib as NONroot? (Lion)
  Re: How do I figure out which module to install (GarbMan)
  Re: SBLive drivers ("S. A")
  Re: Paralel port not detected ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Windows - Linux and ext2 ("S. A")
  Automatic Login ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Command line script.... (Edward Rosten)
  Re: TN5250 Terminal emulator for X (Andrew Purugganan)
  version info for libpthread.so (Steffen Jost)
  Re: Windows - Linux and ext2 (Steffen Jost)
  Re: Windows - Linux and ext2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux or window 98 (philip tulpin)
  Re: Windows - Linux and ext2 ("Matthew Watts")
  Re: Salary? (Bud Rogers)
  Re: closing browser window crashes netscape?!? ("Andreas Reichl")
  Re: Salary? (Desmond Coughlan)
  Re: What to do if you forget the root password (Yan Seiner)
  Re: XFree86-xfs very slow (Chris Lowth)
  Re: Salary? (Matthias Warkus)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Bruner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: tcsh up/down arrow history broken
Date: 8 Mar 2000 09:41:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm running the Intel version of Redhat 6.0.  I have a pretty standard
setup.  I much prefer using tcsh to bash, and most tcsh things like
filename completion work fine.  However, the up arrow and down arrow
method of scrolling through the command line history doesn't work, at
least not on the console non-X logins.  Left and right arrows work fine
on the command line.

I made sure that I set the history variable so I actually had a history
to scroll through.  The up/down arrows just show up as tildes on the
command line.

Any clues?

--
Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one.
                                        --Stella Adler

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From: Jojo und Jessica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Burner is dead? Or not? SuSE6.2
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:48:56 +0100

I installed the scsci-emul. like instruction said(at the end of
posting).

My burner Freecom ( Philips OEM ) CDD3801(/31) is known by Linux after
emulation, but has no functions, now in Windows it also has no
functions; even front-button doesn't work for OPEN/CLOSE. I only can
open/close wiht Windows Audio-CD-Player. But CD's reading or writing is
no more possible!
Then I updated firmware to version 1.6, but there is no change.
Is there anything I can do?

Thank you!



Vorgehen:

cdrecord und X-CD-Roast k�nnen nur SCSI-Laufwerke als CD-Recorder
ansprechen. Daher m�ssen Sie zuerst die IDE-SCSI-Emulation f�r Ihren
CD-Brenner aktivieren.

Gehen Sie daher wie folgt vor:

       Zuerst m�ssen Sie beim Booten von Linux die IDE-Schnittstelle
angeben, f�r die sp�ter die SCSI-Emulation geladen werden soll. Dazu
m�ssen Sie entweder eine Optionszeile
       beim Booten mit LILO angeben, oder Sie tragen die entsprechende
Zeile gleich in der Datei /etc/lilo.conf ein:

       Kernel-Option beim Booten mit LILO:

       LILO boot: linux hdc=ide-scsi

                  ^^^^^ ^^^
                  |     Device, an dem der Brenner angeschlossen ist
(hier
                  |     Master-Anschlu� am zweiten IDE-Controller)
                  |
                  Name Ihrer Linux-Konfiguration

       Folgende Zeile k�nnen Sie auch in Ihrer /etc/lilo.conf in der
global section einf�gen:

       append="hdc=ide-scsi"

       Nachdem der Rechner dann hochgefahren ist, mu� noch das
Kernel-Modul f�r die SCSI-Emulation geladen werden. Dies geschieht mit
folgendem Befehl als Benutzer root:

       modprobe ide-scsi

       Damit Sie diesen Befehl nicht bei jedem Neustart eingeben m�ssen,
k�nnen Sie ihn auch in /sbin/init.d/boot.local eintragen, dann am besten
mit absoluter Pfadangabe.

Nun k�nnen Sie mit dem Befehl "cat /proc/scsi/scsi" sehen, da� Ihr
Brenner unter Linux nun als SCSI-Laufwerk erkannt wird. Damit sollte dem
CD-Brennen nichts mehr im Wege
stehen.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob)
Subject: Hisax Logfloading-problem
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:05:13 GMT

Hi,

Once in a while my little server running a debian distribution of linux is in 
great trouble. My logs are all filled with the following lines (messages, 
daemon.log and more):

Mar  5 06:48:21 overloop 6>Mar  5 06:48:21 kernel: 192/4096<4>HiSax: status 
overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192
/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow 
readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>Hi
Sax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 
8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: statu
s overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 
8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow
 readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: 
status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat
8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow 
readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<
4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 
8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: s
tatus overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status over
Mar  5 06:48:21 overloop fl
Mar  5 06:48:22 overloop 6>Mar  5 06:48:22 kernel: ow readstat 
8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow
readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status 
overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8
192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow 
readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4
>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 
8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: st
atus overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 
8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overf
low readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: 
status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readst
at 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status 
overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/40
96<4>HiSax: status overflow readstat 8192/4096<4>HiSax
Mar  5 06:48:22 overloop :

This causus a full disk and so a big problem. My guess is something with Hisax 
;-) but ISDN is working normal the rest of the time.

Does somebody have a good advice?

Rob

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From: Lion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Svgalib as NONroot?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:10:29 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mrinal
Kalakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Lion typed:
>>When I want to play lsdoom, I have to log on as root, as the svgalib
>>call insists on being run as root. Is there a way around this? As I'm
>>not terribly keen on having to SU to root every time I want to run an
>>svgalib-based game.
>
>Make it suid root with the command - chmod u+s <filename>.
>
>`man chmod' for more details.

Would that be lsdoom, or svgalib? Uhhh. I think I'll just try both.
Thanks.

-- 
Lion
BreadHead - Back By Popular Demand
Sex, Metal & Revolution

http://www.bigfoot.com/~breadhead

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From: GarbMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I figure out which module to install
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:50:26 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to get the ISC DHCP server to work with the current Debian
> distribution.  After installing it, I get the message that
> the "protocol is not available" and that I should make sure that
> CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are set in my kernel.  I don't want to
> have to do a kernel re-compile.  Is there a way to figure out if those
> values were compiled as modules?  And if they were, is there a way to
> determine which module I need to insmod?  None of the descriptions in
> modconf look promising.
> 
> Mark Wright
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

You can either look through your .config in the kernel source tree, or
do the following:
less /usr/src/linux/.config | grep CONFIG_PACKET
        this should result in 'CONFIG_PACKET=y' if in the kernel, =m for module
less /usr/src/linux/.config | grep CONFIG_FILTER
        this should give you 'CONFIG_FILTER=y' if in the kernel

CONFIG_FILTER is not available as a module.

>From the kernel docs, if CONFIG_PACKET is a module, you should have
af_packet.o in your module directory, and need to add 'alias net-pf-17
af_packet' to your /etc/conf.modules (or whatever its called in Debian).

This info is from the 2.2.14 kernel. It's probably the same for most of
the 2.2.x, but I'm not positive.

Of course, the above assumes that you haven't changed your configuration
since the last kernel was built. (i.e. you didn't do something like a
'make menuconfig' and then quit before actually building your kernel).

It also assumes that the last kernel you configured/compiled is the one
you are using.

HTH...

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From: "S. A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SBLive drivers
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:49:05 +0100

http://opensource.creative.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Paralel port not detected
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:44:44 GMT

goto your /etc/conf.modules and see what you have there, it should hav
these two lines:

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0xXXX irq=X    (where cap. X are io=address to
what parallel port your computer's CMOS has setup, and irq= what your
CMOS also most likely has setup )

My CMOS has my parallel port setup as; io=0x378 and irq=7.
Be sure that irq# doesn't conflict with any of your other device
settings. I was luckly irq7 wasn't assigned.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Suwartono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I try to add printer to my RedHat 6.1, the printtool says that my
> paralel port is not detected, with message :
>
> /dev/lp0 : not detected
> /dev/lp1 : not detected
> /dev/lp2 : not detected
>
> It work fine in Windows or Caldera OpenLinux 2.3.
> How can I solve this problem ??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Suwartono
>
>


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From: "S. A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows - Linux and ext2
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:50:47 +0100

How can I read ext2 file system from within Windows98?

.stefan





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Automatic Login
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:57:05 GMT

I have a home peer network and want to use a Linux box as the gateway to the Internet
through a cable modem.  Is there a way to have the linux box automatically login and
start a kde session without having to type anything?


Tom Voltaggio
Team OS/2 - Southern New Jersey  USA


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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Command line script....
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:02:45 +0000

OK, so I'm doing this on the fly, so it might be wrong
if its called foo, do:

foo . ../backup
to backup the current dir in to ../backup
if will barf if ../backup doesn't exist
it doesn't follow symbolic links
this code is NOT robust.


#!/bin/bash

# $1=directory to back up
# $2=backupdir

backupdir=$2
startdir=$1


files=$(ls -p $startdir)

#this lists files in the directory and appends a letter indicating the
type
#/ meand directory
#@ means symbolic link

#loop over all files in the directory
for file in files$
do
  
  if [ "$file" != "${file%%.doc}" ]
  then
    #The file ends in .doc, so copy it to backupdir

    cp ${startdir}/$file $backupdir
  
  elif [ "$file" != "${file%/}" ]
  then
    # file ends in a /
    # create a backup directory
    dir=${file%/}
    
    mkdir ${backupdir}/$dir


    #recursively call this in the subdirectory.
    $0 ${startdir}/$dir ${backupdir}/${dir}
    
    #$0 ${startdir}/$dir ${backupdir}/${dir} &
    #use this to do parallel processing. Faster, but with more
proccesses
  fi
done




I ope this helps. I've not tested it, I just invented it. If it
does/doesn't work, or you need more help, then give me a shout.


-Ed



























-- 
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        -The Hackenthorpe Book Of Lies

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: TN5250 Terminal emulator for X
Date: 8 Mar 2000 10:51:56 GMT

there's a bunch of them that turn up in freshmeat.net, all u have to do 
is type 5250 in the 'find' box
Cokey de Percin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Jim Moseby wrote:
: > 
: > I'm looking for an X based telnet client that will emulate IBM/5250.
: > Anybody know if one exists?
: > 
: > Jim

: Nope, I've never seen/heard of one.  There is a text tn5250 package 
: that's supposed to work quite well and should run in an X window.
: Note that there is an X3270 package and that you can run 3270 emulation
: against an AS/400.

: Best

: Cokey


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From: Steffen Jost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: version info for libpthread.so
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:23:13 +0100



Hi all!

By mistake I deleted some links to  libraries. I tried to relink them
properly by looking at another computer with linux installed, it is also
running on SuSE 6.2, so I looked at the all links and relinked them on the
broken computer. But I still get some error messages about missing version
information, some programs won�t start anymore. (for example xmms)

xmms: /lib/libpthread.so.0: no version information available (required by
xmms) xmms: /lib/libpthread.so.0: no version information available
(required by xmms) xmms: /lib/libpthread.so.0: no version information
available (required by /usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0) xmms: error in loading
shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0: symbol
pthread_cond_broadcast,  version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file
libpthread.so.0 with link time reference (no version symbols)

Also reinstalling the right (?) packages didn�t solve the problem so far.
What am I doing wrong, and what is this all about? Can anyone help me?
All hints are welcome!
Thanks!

Steffen

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From: Steffen Jost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows - Linux and ext2
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:26:28 +0100

Hi Stefan!

Of course you can. Take a look at 

http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/

where you can get the tool explore2fs.

Steffen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Windows - Linux and ext2
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:24:46 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "S. A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I read ext2 file system from within Windows98?
>
> .stefan
>
>
Hi,

there's a program called Explore2fs which can read/write ext2
partitions. This is the URL where you can find it:
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm

gr,

erik.


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From: philip tulpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux or window 98
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:30:05 GMT

Thanks Juergen for your answering on my question
greetings, philip Tulpin


Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, philip tulpin wrote:
> >Hello
> >Do I need to be a computer specialist for use and install Linux ?
> 
> Yes, of course .. ;)
> 
> Okay, no, but Linux is a Unix clone, so it is quite different to
> Microsoft systems. Say if you need a system to play some games
> now and then, to access the Internet here and there and to do
> the usual stuff like writing to the tax office once a year .. no,
> just skip it.
> 
> >I cant do programmed difficult software.
> Not quite sure, what you mean but what is difficult really depends.
> I've no problems here, but at the same time once had to play with
> Visual C++ .. 15 minutes of their IDE was enough to drive me crazy.
> 
> >So I need to know if Linux is easy to use?
> See above, but as a pure consumer system, no .. overkill.
> 
> >Can I still use my win98 software and other software for window98 ?
> You can use both, going the dual boot path or at the same time,
> using VMware. Rumours are it is pretty good, but I cannot tell as
> this is a pure system. VMware create an environment in which one
> can run Windows, in short a virtual machine.
> 
> Cheers,
> Juergen
> 
> -- 
> \ Real name     : Jrgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
>  \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /


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From: "Matthew Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows - Linux and ext2
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:45:30 +1100

Simple answer - no. Not that I know of, unless someone has written a driver
for it.

"S. A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> How can I read ext2 file system from within Windows98?
>
> .stefan
>
>
>
>



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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 08 Mar 2000 05:44:25 -0600

"Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In the US, you get great value for your money if you actually have money,
> but if you're poor, you're screwed.

Matt, you've just summed up life in the USA in one succinct sentence.

-- 
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html

Though all my neighbors are barbarians, and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.

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From: "Andreas Reichl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: closing browser window crashes netscape?!?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:59:21 +0100

> I had the same problem with 4.7 but I upgraded to 4.72 and it hasn't
> happened again yet (fingers crossed).

Thats funny - i had the problem JUST with 4.72 and i went back
to 4.7.

I have Caldera OL 2.3


Andreas Reichl




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Desmond Coughlan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 8 Mar 2000 12:14:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 07 Mar 2000 22:41:50 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> That's all well and good, but what's public transportation like in the UK?  In
> the suburban areas of the US you're lucky if it exists.  In most places, it
> doesn't.
> 
> (Remember, what I would consider a "short" drive for a long weekend sould get me
> around the entire country of Scotland as far as distance goes.)
> 
>   I think nothing of driving 45 minutes to spend a couple of hours with friends
> a couple of times a week.  One of those friends travels to Scotland FREQUENTLY
> on business, and they all think we're daft for driving that bloody long just for
> a couple of hours!
> 
> So, everything is relative. 

Being from Scotland, I was amazed at the size of the United States, the 
first time I went there.  I remember thinking, 'Yeah, leave Boston, 
get on the I-95 to New York ... cool.'  

Little did I realise how far it was !!  

There's something else to consider: the speed limits in Europe are higher,
so we can get around more quickly, and the distances are shorter.  On
the aforementioned trip from Boston to New York, I spent most of the
time on the I-95, driving between 85 and 110 mph, much to the amazement
of my American friends, whose reactions varied from 'You're crazy!', to
something slightly less printable ...  ;-)

The size of the motorways (what you people call 'highways') is quite
impressive, too.  I once drove from M�nchen to Berlin on the 
Autobahnen, and was rarely below 140 mph, but most of the Autobahnen 
are two-lane, which means a lot of braking to let some stupid Sunday
driver in his VW Beetle, get out of the 'overtaking' lane at 60 mph.

In the United States, there are so many lanes that one can (and I did)
overtake two or three lanes to the left, so as not to scare the shit
out of some coffin dodger, as you roar past at almost double his
speed.

Woah !!!   :-)

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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do if you forget the root password
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 06:32:09 -0500

I think you have to put the password option into LILO with a RH distro. 
By default, it does not ask for a password on linux single.

OTOH, physical security is step one.  As was mentioned, if someone has
compromised your system to that extent, you're hosed anyway.  Probably
means the server is stolen....

Once someone has physical access to the server, they can always yank the
hard drive (or install an IDE drive as a boot drive) with a linux
distro, then mount your partitions and get all the data that way....

--Yan

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:57:28 -0500, Jan Schaumann
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Or easier, at the LILO prompt type
> >LILO: your_kernel_name_here single
> 
> This doesn't work for all distros--SuSE *ALWAYS* asks for the root
> password when entering single-user mode.  If RedHat doesn't do this, then
> maybe RedHat needs to rethink a few things regarding security.
> 
> I prefer to dispense solutions that are distro-independent, even if they
> are a little more complex than alternatives.  Being tied to one distro's
> peculiarities is a Bad Thing in most cases.
> 
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows        \          In the MS-DOStrix,
> There is no Darkness in Eternity   \----\    there is no fork().
> But only Light too dim for us to see     \
>     ===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====

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From: Chris Lowth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86-xfs very slow
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:23:39 +0000

On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Hal Burgiss wrote:

> Maybe your config is just short on horsepower. Are you using Gnome or
> KDE? Try it without those.

I use neither - just "X" and "netscape" - started via xinit and the
following .xinitrc file..

        set s off
        xbanner -file mybanner.ban
        netscape -geometry =800x600+0+0 /mysite/index.html

The box is an i486/50-DX - with 32Mb of memory - which is normally a
reasonable linux configuration - although I wouldnt run staroffice on it!

> Also, E is a resource hog. Try a simple, one color background image
> without any fancy themes, and a lightweigh windowmanager like
> Windowmaker or fvwm.

I have no background images or themes - and no "E" (what is "E" ?)

> Try 16 and 8bpp. Try putting your 'unscaled' fonts first in your
> Fontpath, if they are not already. The scaled ones use more CPU.

Ok - I'll give it a go - this sounds hopeful.

> Try Navigator only, no Communicator. Uses a lot less memory, and is a
> bit faster, and more stable IMO.

Yup - that's what I've got - "nav" not "com" (rpm -qa | grep netscape)

> Use lynx or w3m when you can for browsing.

Sadly I cant - the machine is meant to be a "locked down" netscape kiosk.

> Make sure all your RAM is recognized and SWAP is in use.

Yup - all there (/proc/meminfo says so), and the "slow downs" are not
accompanied by large HDU activity - which is a normal symptom of memory or
swap issues (in my experience).

> Check XFree86.org for any tips/gotchas on tweaking your graphics card.

I'll have a look, but I dont think it's a card problem - once the fonts
are rendered, everything flies just fine - jpeg and gif images (even
animated ones) appear at a quite acceptable speed - it just runs like a
dog every time a new font is called for - ie: the first dialog, the first
page with a style sheet, the first <h4> tag --- etc. Once these things
have been met once - no slow down untill netscape is halted and restarted.

Thanks for all your help.

Chris.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:56:30 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:35:26 -0800...
...and Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Matthias Warkus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> > So we Europeans can't afford 3 SUVs per household. I reckon that's an
> > advantage.
> 
> If you happen to like that kind of thing, it's still much better to have the
> option, don't you think?  You don't have to spend it all.  Instead, you can
> save and invest it, and retire early, with more.  Wouldn't it be great to be
> able to say "take this job and shove it," and spend your time writing open
> source software instead?  ;-)

Of course! That phrase was rather tongue-in-cheek.
 
> > Seriously: The standard of living here in Germany is rather higher
> > than in the United States. As for salaries, they aren't necessarily
> > lower, if they're lower, that's usually compensated by a much lower
> > number of workhours per week and per lifetime.
> 
> My roommate is German, and this is what he thinks.  He's appalled by the
> cost of living here, and by how hard people work.  (Notice my choice of
> words.)

Compared to the U.S., we hardly work at all ;)))

Germany is one of the best places to live at the moment. But unlike
some USAmericans, we don't run around claiming "we're the best country
in the world" because then our past would come over, tap us on our
shoulder and say "Silly boy. Remember the mess that got us into? Shut
up."


> > Also take in account that we've got the state taking care of our
> > health, pension etc., that is we don't need to pay private health
> > insurances and such from our salary after taxes unless we want to.
> 
> That's pretty amazing, that the government gives you a choice.  In England,
> even the "free" state health care costs more than the most deluxe private
> insurance over here, and most British people with money still feel the need
> to have private insurance also.  In the US, you get great value for your
> money if you actually have money, but if you're poor, you're screwed.

Over here, we have a great public health system that delivers quite
good value because it's not a monopoly. There are several public
health insurance organisations competing for customers. But they
aren't companies, and thus don't work for their shareholders, but for
their customers only. And their CEO and boards are elected by their
customers in a democratic fashion, too -- quite nice system.

Same goes for banks and TV networks in Germany. I, for one, am glad
that my bank account is handled by an independent, non-profit
organisation working for the good of the public instead of some
turbo-capitalist global-player corporation that's busily planning the
next merger.

(Rationale: Today I heard that Deutsche Bank and Dresdner Bank are
going to merge. That merger will probably don't do the public *any*
good, as it will lead to up to 30,000 fired employees and shutting
down of bank subsidiaries all across the country.)

mawa
-- 
Tja, nun bin ich selber Kanzler - und welches andere Subventionsbonbon
sollte ich meinen W�hlern geben als meine W�hler's Original?

W�hler's Original. Damit auch du jemand ganz Besonderen w�hlst - mich.

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