Linux-Misc Digest #785, Volume #26               Thu, 11 Jan 01 23:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Can't connect error (Dustin)
  Re: Partition overlapped (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Softball newbie question(s) (Elf Sternberg)
  Re: What am I missing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Dual Monitor setup problem.  Can't start X. ("Arctic Storm")
  Solution: Added NIS now KDE screensaver won't unlock ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Can Connect Can't Surf
  Opera 40b5 static startup failure, 2.4.0 kernel, libc.so.6 not found; why? (Dave)
  Re: [OT] - AntiTrust comes out this Friday! ("Ken Carriere")
  Re: Softball newbie question(s) (Francois Labreque)
  Re: ppp problem with ISP (Stephen Shaddick)
  Re: Softball newbie question(s) ("Johnny Kitchens")
  Re: Dumping Novell for Linux (almost).. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: help please with linux server speed. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: forbid console login (Payam Poursaied)
  processes stopping without warning ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Tax Software?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Setting up CONFIG_PARPORT_PC in kernel... (Guy Parry)
  Adaptec 19160 SCSI Controller (John Scudder)

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From: Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't connect error
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:50:27 -0600

Bryan Hoyt wrote:
> 
> Who ever said chmod007 couldn't write what follows?:
> >try from the command line.  'export display=localhost:0.0' and then try
> >startx again.
> >
> 
> Wait a minute... It seems that should be 'export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0'. I'm
> sure it's all caps.
> 
> --
> 
> Bryan Hoyt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.crosswinds.net/~artmusic
> 
> -----------------------------------
> 
> Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
 I agree w/ the all caps on DISPLAY.  I would also question the
localhost.  If you log into a remote host and want the app to
display on your localhost you need to set the DISPLAY to the IP
of your own box (IP from the interface which connects the two). 
You can only use a name if the remote box can resolve the name to
your IP.  If you are running an app on your box it should work w/
DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 but I don't know why it would stop working
when you connect to the remote host.

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partition overlapped
Date: 11 Jan 2001 19:49:08 -0600

* Tong * a �crit :
> 
> > Bullshit! The problem is the mixing of winblows and Linux partitioning tools.
> > If you are to more than one os partition magic is the best partitioning tool
> > and use only that one. Here the Extented partition number c is probably
> > the problem, it should be f because you he's got a bit FAT32 partition.
> 
> Have a look at my opening question and try to think of a reason for
> the symptom please. Many other posters has point out the above fdisk
> error already.
> 

What's your point? How should I know about something I haven't seen? Not all newservers
show all the messages as they are posted.

-- 
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat
We have all kinds of links
and many SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Re: Softball newbie question(s)
Date: 12 Jan 2001 01:53:28 GMT

In article <93l6d0$pct$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
    Mike Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> You probably don't have the current directory in your shell's PATH.
>> From the shell prompt, try using "./a.out" to run your program.

>Yes, thanks, that did it.  As an ex-MSDOS user I'm surprised that the
>current directory is not automatically part of the path -- anybody know
>the reasoning behind that?

        Yeah.  Unix is designed from the ground up to be multi-user.
It's also not the world's most secure operating system in that it
assumes you know what you're doing.  Let's assume, though, that you
don't, and you leave a directory that's world-writeable.  Maybe even
your $HOME directory.  Let's assume you have current working directory
in your path.

        You leave for a while, and J. BlackHat Hacker comes along and
sticks a shell file with "rm -fr $HOME &; /usr/bin/ls $*" in it in said
directory.  He can do that; you left it world-writeable.  He names this
file "ls".

        Now, you come back and log in and want to see your directory.
You type "ls".  This directory is now *in your path* and, if it comes
before the directory where the real ls, it does what you expect while
launching in the background a job to delete all your files.

        This is one of many examples of why "run from current working
directory" is an _explicit_ operation; it prevents security end-runs
such as the scenario described above.

                Elf

--
Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.halcyon.com/elf/

"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
     I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What am I missing?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:10:11 GMT

In article <93ipud$ndg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Noname <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I tried to install a couple of packages, one of them is jdk1.3 and the
> other is firestarter (firewall) and in both cases I get errors of files
> missing. For java:
> mydir/appletviewer:/usr/bin/head: No such file or directory
> mydir/appletviewer:/usr/bin/cut: No such file or directory
> mydir/native_threads/appletviewer:error in loading shared libraries:


I'm not sure whose to blame for this one.  The java startup script
is using the full paths /usr/bin/head and /usr/bin/cut but they're
in /bin under linux.  On Solaris /bin is linked to /usr/bin, so
either path works and most of the java development happens on
Solaris. I just got round it by running "ln -s /usr/bin/cut /bin/cut"
and "ln -s /usr/bin/head /bin/head" as root.  Why this wasn't noticed
in testing, I'm not sure.  It may be differant in differant versions
of linux.


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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Dual Monitor setup problem.  Can't start X.
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:23:11 GMT

Dual Monitor setup problem.  Can't start X.
I have Intel D815EEA motherboard that came with integrated video.
I had RedHat 7 running fine.
I just installed ATI's All-in-Wonder 128 PCI video card, so I could have
dual monitor setup.
I rebooted, and I was presented with an option to configure the new card.
I screwed up, and now, when I try to power on, I get an error.
It says something like, "...gdm was already running,...mysteriously
murdered,..."
The only way to boot up is to enter runlevel 3, and enter the interactive
boot up, and disable everything.  Then I can log in, but can't start X.
When I issue the command Xconfigurator, it recognizes the new ATI card, but
can't finish setting it up.
Any help would be appreciated.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Solution: Added NIS now KDE screensaver won't unlock
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:08:03 GMT

Several months ago I set up NIS on my home network (Mandrake 7.1
mostly). All went well except that my KDE screensavers would not
unlock. I searched for this problem with deja.com, and found that
others had this problem, but no good solutions. Since I did not need a
screen lock at home, I turned off the locking, and just let the
screensaver run w/o locking.

Today at work, while I was developing a Linux image to be distributed
to all of our Linux machines (based on RedHat 6.2), I ran into the same
thing. At work, locking the screen is required, so I looked into it a
bit harder and fixed it.

When I got home, I discovered that my problem at home did not have the
same cause, but did find the problem.

In case anyone else has this problem, I posted both fixes at:

http://www.buchanan1.net/kde_screensaver.html

I'm posting this as a pointer for anyone who searches for this problem
with deja.com

-- 
Jim Buchanan        [EMAIL PROTECTED]     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
We stopped when we got a clean compile on the following syntax:
for(;P("\n"),R-;P("|"))for(e=C;e-;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("| "+(*u/4)%2);
To think that modern programmers would try to use a language that
allowed such a statement was beyond our comprehension!
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Connect Can't Surf
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:30:06 -0000

I was able to get the correct primary and secondary DNS from my ISP. 
Problem solved.  Thanks to all.

holcomb wrote:
> 
> I can connect to my ISP at 49333 but I cannot surf the web.  Everytime I
> put in a URL I get the Netscape cannot find the host <url name>...  I
think
> this happens because my ISP wants to assign its own primary and secondary
> DNS IP addresses.  Can anyone help me?  Thank You.  JH
> 
> --
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> http://www.help.com/


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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Opera 40b5 static startup failure, 2.4.0 kernel, libc.so.6 not found; why?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:30:11 -0000

Hoping someone can help me diagnose the following error message, issued
when I (try to) start Opera 4.0.b5 (static version) on my SuSE Linux 6.3
system with a recently installed 2.4.0 kernel. See the log below.

Starting opera results in message "/lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3'
not found (required by /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62)"; yet the friggin file is
*there*

Installed the same opera on a Red Hat 7.0 (kernel 2.2) system ok fine no
problem, just croaks on this SuSE 6.3 (kernel 2.4.0) system.

Anyone know whatz wrong and how to fix it?

Many thanks - Dave G.

echo $PATH
/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin//root/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:
/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde/bin:
/opt/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin
bash-2.03# pwd
/lib
bash-2.03# ls libc*
libc.so.4  libc.so.4.7.6  libc.so.6  libcrypt.so.1
bash-2.03#
bash-2.03# uname -a
Linux daveshouse 2.4.0 #10 Tue Jan 9 03:27:32 PST 2001 i686 unknown
bash-2.03#
bash-2.03# opera
opera: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3' not found (required by
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62)
bash-2.03#


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From: "Ken Carriere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,rec.arts.movies.current-films
Subject: Re: [OT] - AntiTrust comes out this Friday!
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:38:04 GMT


Nah, they didn't mention Linux, that I heard anyway. However, Torvalds has a
cameo role.

As for NURV headquarters, I'm not that familiar with SFU, so I wouldn't
know. Actually, if any university looks that nice, I'd be surprised :-)

--Ken


"E J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Was Linux ever mentioned in the movie?  Open Source was.
>
> Hey...That looks my hometown of Vancouver.
> Simon Fraser University looks like NURV headquarters :)
>
> Ken Carriere wrote:
>
> > "tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > http://us.imdb.com/Title?0218817
> > >
> > > Looks to be a hot movie, especially for Linux afficionados!
> >
> > I just saw this. It's really good. Not because of the Bill Gates angle,
> > which I don't care about either way, but just because it was really well
> > done. Thrilling and interesting.
> >
> > IMHO
> >
> > --Ken
>



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From: Francois Labreque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Softball newbie question(s)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:37:58 -0500



Mike Silva wrote:
> 
> In article <9Go76.665$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) wrote:
> > In article <5On76.144$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johnny Kitchens wrote:
> > >Mike, sorry but I can only answer the simple question.
> > > "lie-nux" or "lin-ux"?
> > >From the Linux community majority I say it's pronounced, "lin-ux"
> > >I made the same pronunciation error when first introduced to the
> product.
> > >I thought it was "lie-nux" for a long time.
> >
> > It is lie-nux.  Most people get it wrong...
> 
> That's what I assumed, since the (American) pronunciation of Linus is
> lie-nus, but then I kept hearing people say lin-ux.

But, but, but... Linus Torvalds is NOT american.

-- 
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    flabreque     | button on a cat who wants breakfast.
        @         |      - Unattributed quote from rec.humor.funny
   videotron.ca

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From: Stephen Shaddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ppp problem with ISP
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:50:49 -0400

Glitch,

There is a simple solution to your problem with connecting to your ISP in
linux.  I had the same problem and found the solution in chapter 8 of the
Linux PPP Howto.  THe easiest root, although not the best, around this problem
is to add a new expect/send pair to the end of the chat script.   Add  "expect
/~"  and "send".  This solved it for me.  For a better solution check out the
Linux PPP HOWTO chapter 8.

Stephen

Glitch wrote:

> Just nevermind. I'm getting different answers from each person and I'm
> tired of messing with it. Obviously this isn't like Windows, even though
> I wish it was as I have no problem logging inot my ISP using WIndows. I
> dont have to worry about version numbers or my pap secrets file being
> just right or making sure i got the debug option turned on for pppd and
> making sure my script file is ok.  I dont have to worry about any of
> that with Windows.
>
> i'll just do it by myself.
>
> Glitch wrote:
> >
> > hello,
> >
> > My ISP uses PAP for ppp connections. I can login fine using Win98 but
> > kppp won't login using PAP.  Neither OS will work usinga terminal window
> > as my ISP has changed their menu system to where a person can't initiate
> > a ppp link manually therefore it has to be done automatically.
> > Unforutnately that doesn't work in Linux, as I said.
> >
> > I'm getting teh 'receive serial link is not 8-bit clean". I'm reading
> > curently from search results at Google this error usually means that my
> > ISP didnt' have ppp running on yet on their end. If that is the case
> > then how is it Win98 can make a connection to my ISP w/o my
> > intervention? What does Win98 do that Linux isn't doing to force the
> > server to start a ppp link? There is no way I can use a expect/send
> > script (in a terminal window) with kppp like i used to. The closest I
> > can get is using PAP but ppp times out b/c it says I tried to start ppp
> > when the server wasn't ready so it just dies. But I dont know how to get
> > the server to start ppp.
> >
> > I've also read that it may be something to do with the number of bits or
> > the settings of how those bits are sent, like 8 bits are sent with Non
> > parity , something like that. Right now Win98 is configured with an 8N1
> > setting. Where do i look to see if ppp in Linux is setup the same way
> > and how would i change it if it's not like that?
> >
> > How does win98 do it and can i do the same thing in Linux? How do i fix
> > this? Get a new ISP? It has to be something in
> > Linux if Windows can do it.
> >
> > My Net connection is the last thing I need to be able to use Linux the
> > majority of the time I use my PC so I hope I can get it going soon.
> >
> > thanks
> > brandon


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From: "Johnny Kitchens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Softball newbie question(s)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:02:28 -0500

Thanks, I thought I had that corrected years ago. Thanks for the refresher
conformation

"Markku Kolkka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Johnny Kitchens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hey! I'm glad you cought that! I did have it backwards. I think. Now I'm
> > confussed again. I think You're correct in "Lie-nux" I don't know now.
:-(
>
> The _definite_ version of correct pronounciation of "Linux" is at:
> http://www.linux.org/info/sounds/english.au
>
> --
> Markku Kolkka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dumping Novell for Linux (almost)..
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:53:34 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: with samba server how to map a drive letter automatically to win9x
: clients??

: in novel/netware i would write a login script like:

: "net use G: \\samba_server\samba_folder"

That line also works from a Win box.

AFAIK the "net utility" is included with Win95/98/NT.
With 9x you *may* have to download it from the MS$site for free,
depending what version you have. 

Regards,
Friedhelm

-- 
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===================================================================
Friedhelm Mehnert,  Berliner Allee 42,  22850 Norderstedt,  Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562        email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: help please with linux server speed.
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:57:10 GMT

Kenny@BUI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: telnet connections take 30 sec. to 90 sec. to prompt for login.

Check the setup of your your Name Service.
Have you configured a non existend Win server or something like 
that?

Regards,
Friedhelm

-- 
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===================================================================
Friedhelm Mehnert,  Berliner Allee 42,  22850 Norderstedt,  Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562        email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Payam Poursaied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: forbid console login
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:34:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Payam Poursaied wrote:
>
> > wher can i define who can login to the server from console(tty)
> > and who can not?
> > Payam124
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com
> > http://www.deja.com/
>
> Hello,
>
> I don't see any difference between login from console or via rsh/ssh, if
> you don't want a user login,
> just set his shell in /etc/passwd to /bin/false, not even root will be
> able to su....:-)
>
> Or didn't I understand your question?
>
> Michael Heiming
>

Hi,
every one in our site can reach the linux server.
but we want to limit users just telnet in or use ssh,
and we don't want to permit anyone login from the consoles.

Payam124


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: processes stopping without warning
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:37:00 GMT

I'm fairly new to Linux, so this may be something that's quite simple...

I've recently migrated a MUD from a proprietary HP-UX box to a Red Hat
7.0 Linux box.

I've created several users, including a user that I'll give to our
developers so they can work...they don't need any sort of superuser
access, and the less trouble they can get themselves into, the better :)

Here's the problem.  I have a startup script that starts up the MUD,
then stays active (while (1) do blah blah) so if the MUD goes down, the
startup script will restart it.

I'm using this development user to start the script.  The script goes
into action, and the MUD starts without problem.  Then, some time later
(a period of time I haven't identified yet), the MUD and script
processes stop without warning.  To the best of my knowledge, they're
stopping near the same time, but I still haven't confirmed that.

The MUD didn't generate any errors in the log, and showed no signs
of 'crashing', and the script, well, the script just doesn't stop
unless you stop it by hand or the server shut down.  Course, anything
is possible...

So, to test a hunch, I started the script as root.  This wouldn't
usually be a problem...the box is built for the MUD only, but since it
generates logs, and some other backup files as root, it means I'd have
to set up permission changes on these files for the development user to
work with them, and I don't want to bother.  I'm sure you guys could
tell me how to do it easily, but I really don't want to run the MUD as
root if I can avoid it.

Back to the point.  I ran the script as root and the script has not
stopped yet, nor has the MUD stopped yet.  When running as the
development user the script/MUD stopped within 8 hours or so, as best I
can tell.  The script/MUD have been up for over 24 hours now running
under root.

Can anyone tell me why the processes would stop?  To start the process
as the development user I log in as the development user and start it
like './script.sh &'.  I then log off as the development user.  The
script/MUD stay active after the user logs out.

Is there some other way I should be doing this?  Is there a timeout
setting that I'm missing?

Please help.

Thanks.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tax Software??
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:52:24 GMT

Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit :
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher W. Aiken) writes:
> > > Is there any tax software like Kiplinger TAXCUT from
> > > H&R Block for FreeBSD or Linux?
> > 
> > You may be able to run TaxCut atop WINE; I must confess to not having
> > tried this out in a couple years, but I did run it successfully 2
> > years ago, and Wine _has_ to have improved since then...
> 
> Is it possible to run wine when you don't have winblows on your PC?

Bien sur, monsieur!  Visitez <http://www.winehq.com/> SVP.
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From: Guy Parry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up CONFIG_PARPORT_PC in kernel...
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:51:59 +1100

Thanks :)
On 11 Jan 2001 01:16:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:21:01 +1100, Guy Parry staggered into the Black
>Sun and said:
>>     As far as I'm aware to run VMWare I need to have this compiled in
>>my kernel: CONFIG_PARPORT_PC.  Without having to go through menuconfig
>>from top to bottom to find out what this corresponds to under xconfig,
>>can someone tell me what the option under xconfig would be?  I've had
>>a look and there are a couple of possibilities under Parallel Port
>>setup, but I'm not 100% sure which is the correct one.  Hope this
>>question makes sense...if it isn't already installed by default.
>
>Parallel Port Support->PC-Style Hardware, set to "Y" if you want it
>in-kernel instead of as a module.  Basic parport support has to be "Y"
>as well.
>
>The "Help" function in "make xconfig" should have something at the very
>top that says CONFIG_FOO_BAR which tells you which option is being
>turned on.  HTH,


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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adaptec 19160 SCSI Controller
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:43 -0500

Does  the Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller work with Linux?

John


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