Linux-Misc Digest #949, Volume #23               Sat, 25 Mar 00 12:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Suggestions on AMD box? (Henrik Becker)
  how install debian linux ? (vitor ribeiro)
  Re: Is there an acrobat reader for linux? ("Dean Yamamura")
  Re: Is there an acrobat reader for linux? ("Dean Yamamura")
  last ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: how install debian linux ? (Richard Steiner)
  I want to send EOF to FIFO. (Aleksey)
  Re: Processes that Start Upon Boot ("Buck Turgidson")
  Sound ("Karl von Muller")
  Re: pppd non-root access ("PG")
  Re: Digi Board components compatible? (Yan Seiner)
  Re: eth0 Operation Failed!!! (Bob Chiodini)
  Re: New to Linux: Help! (Bruce Schultz)
  Re: Real player 7 on SuSE (6.2) (Roberto Maria Avanzi Mocenigo)
  Re: What is the best/most popular Linux distr. to use? (Harvey Taylor)
  Re: Goofy apache "bug" ("Brian E. Seppanen")
  Re: What is the best/most popular Linux distr. to use? (Thomas Zajic)
  2 versions of netscape and real player (Shawn Duffy)
  Re: how install debian linux ? ("Catilina")
  Re: X won't start ("Catilina")
  Re: hot to make a bootable cdrom? (Cevat Ustun)
  Re: console buffer (Thomas Zajic)
  Where is initial PATH defined? ("Charles Sullivan")
  xtraceroute problem ("G. R. Gaudreau")

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From: Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Suggestions on AMD box?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:51:20 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Lien-Fei Alex Chu wrote:
>
> have SB 128 but I had a little trouble with it. But, it will also work.

how did you do it? Alsa? OSS?

Gruss / Regards,

Henrik Becker

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From: vitor ribeiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how install debian linux ?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:30:02 GMT

how install debian linux ?

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From: "Dean Yamamura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there an acrobat reader for linux?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:18:34 -1000

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html

Chris Danaceau wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm running Caldera Open Linux 2.3
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From: "Dean Yamamura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there an acrobat reader for linux?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:18:34 -1000

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html

Chris Danaceau wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm running Caldera Open Linux 2.3
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: last
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:31:56 GMT

in my redhat 6.1
last does not show telnet records anymore

maybe it is due to deletion of /var/log/wtmpx
I delete /var/log/wtmpx few weeks ago
and touch this file then

how can i re-enable the logs of telnet sessions?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: how install debian linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 05:59:22 -0600

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, vitor ribeiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>how install debian linux ?

The Debian distribution should come with documentation...?

Do you have a specific question or problem?

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From: Aleksey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I want to send EOF to FIFO.
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:04:06 GMT

I run pipe getting data from the FIFO file like this

prog1 < fifo_file | prog2 | prog3 &

How can I send EOF character to FIFO or close my pipe?


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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Processes that Start Upon Boot
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:35:04 GMT

Thanks.  I never knew this utility existed.  I was able to free up about 10
MB getting rid of stuff I'll neither want nor use, such as "kudzu".


David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> As root enter  "setup"  at the command line or in an xterm.  Choose
> System Services and remove the asterisk from in front of what you don't
> want to run at boot time.
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From: "Karl von Muller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Sound
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:33:37 +1100

I have installed Rh6.1 for the seond time rencently and last tim i did it i
got sound. Could anyone help me on this. I have tried to recompile the
kernel, but it will not work as my linux partition is one of the last
partitions on the drive and i can only boot off the floppy. I have tried
rewriting the the boot sector with lilo but that does not work.

Thanks Karl



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From: "PG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: pppd non-root access
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:49:35 GMT


"Post office box" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I recently upgraded my slackware kernel from v.2.0.34 to v.2.2.9.
> I also upgraded to pppd v.2.3.4.
>
> I've been trying in the worst way to start pppd as a user other
> than root. Thus far I've been unsuccessful. With the old kernel
> and the old pppd version (2.2), there was never a problem with
> anyone starting pppd. Now, only root can start it.
>
> Here's the message that appears when a non-root user starts pppd:
>
> using the name option requires root privilege
>
> I only upgraded to a newer version of pppd because of an
> incompatibility between the old version and the new kernel.
>
> I tried changing and adding parameters in /etc/ppp/options, to
> no avail.
>
> Can anyone suggest a solution?
>
>
> Gary Krupa
>
> ---------

Create a group called "PPPusers".  Add the users who need ppp access to this
group.  Make pppd part of the "PPPuser" group.

pg



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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Digi Board components compatible?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:05:30 -0500

Most digi boards have native kernel support these days.  I'm not
familiar with the board you describe (it sounds like some sort of
daughter board???).

Digi even has a linux mailing list; you need to visit their web site.

--Yan

Kerry Cox wrote:
> 
> I have an 8-port digiboard that is supposedly only supported by SCO
> UNIX.  I would like to know if it is now supported under Linux.  It is
> a Digi board that sits in an ISA card slot and then connects to the
> Digiboard with the 8 ports.  If this is supported under Linux, we
> could move to a different platform. Thanks.
> KJ
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From: Bob Chiodini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: eth0 Operation Failed!!!
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:30:03 GMT

Brad,

Once the computer boots run netcfg and uncheck (or whatever) the start at 
boot option for eth0.  The new RH beta must try to auto configure the 
ethernet interface, like Windows (nooooooooooooo!).

Bob


Brad wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I have just installed Redhat 6.2 beta and there is a small problem that
> I hope someone can help with.
> 
> During boot up, while the machine is loading all the bits and piecies,
> the boot process pauses on this line....
> 
> 'Bring up interface eth0'
> 
> I stays on this line for about 40 seconds. Once it continues it adds
> this  to the line...
> 
> 'Determine IP information for eth0. Operation Failed.'
> 
> Could someone please  give me a bit of a clue as to what is going on
> here.
> 
> Here is what I know. (or think I know)
> 
> eth0 sounds like it some sort of network card. (Is this correct?)
> 
> I do have a network card in machine, but at this point I have not ever
> looked at connecting the machine to another.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> 
> Brad
> 


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Subject: Re: New to Linux: Help!
From: Bruce Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Mar 2000 14:17:49 -0600

User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I installed Linux (RH 6.1) for the first time ever yesterday. It works
> needs tweaking so any help with the following would be extremely welcome
> (especially if in simple English!):

Is English ever really simple?
 
> 1: Everything on the desktop is far too big, so icons & windows are ugly
> and cumbersome, and in some cases I can't even get at certain bits of
> windows as they don't fit on the screen. I'm pretty confident that I had
> the monitor/card settings correct when I installed - it's a laptop with
> 600x800 LCD panel and I never had this problem with Win95 so I'm
> guessing it can be fixed. (I'm currently using the Enlightenment/GNOME
> combination).

It sounds like your video is set at 640x480.  Your use of
enlightenment and gnome are irrelevant.  There are a couple of
possible causes: (1) you didn't set up the correct X server and you're
using VGA16, or (2) you set up the correct X server but have the
screen size set at 640x480.  Rerun your Xconfigurator or XF86Setup and
double check it.  You don't indicate what video card your laptop has.
It's possible that the version of XFree86 that comes with RH 6.1
doesn't support it.
 
> 2: How can I check the contents of my harddrive to see e.g. if any bits
> of my (well and truly corrupted) Win95 are still there taking up
> valuable space?

If you deleted the Windows partition(s), there won't be anything
left.  If you kept them, there won't be any contamination of your
Linux filesystem.  I wouldn't worry about it.
 
> 3: Must it be so slow? I have 32MB of RAM (and allocated at least that
> much swap space) which I know isn't massive, and a 200MHz Pentium. It
> ran Win95 at lightning speed and they told me Linux could be at least as
> fast. Is it possible to steamline things at all?

The first thing I'd do is lose the Enlightenment/Gnome environment.
Set up a thinner window manager such as wmaker or icewm.  Don't run
Netscape when you don't need to.  The other thing you should do is set
up more swap.  Did you set up a swap partition or a swap file?

Though I think RedHat and Mandrake are easier to set up and use on
laptops that are intermittently connected to networks, Slackware has a
smaller kernel that may suit your needs better than what you're using.
 
I ran Linux very well on a Pentium 133 laptop with 48M of RAM.  It
even ran KDE reasonably well. It was extremely stable, with uptimes of
several months at a time.  When I needed to carry the computer, I
simply suspended it.

Finally, speed is a relative thing.  It depends on what you're doing.
X is a client/server environment which is inherently a bit slower than
Windows 9x or NT's (4.0) graphics.  Also, hardware graphics
acceleration is a sometimes thing under X.  You'll find that under the
pretty surface, Linux is running more efficiently, especially with
multitasking and networking, than Windows.


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From: Roberto Maria Avanzi Mocenigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real player 7 on SuSE (6.2)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:27:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jim Hill wrote:
> 
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Roberto Maria Avanzi Mocenigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi all
> >I am having a problem.
> >
> >Real Player 7.
> >
> >Anyway, it does not work at all.
> >realplay does not even start, it seimply exits with
> >error code 1, whereas rpnphelper tells me
> >BOO!
> >Aborted
> 
> I got the same problem as a user on a SuSE 6.0 system -- although the
> player works perfectly for root.  Needless to say, I will not be running
> as root just to get RA streams.

On my machine it does not work even as root.

Roberto
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From: Harvey Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is the best/most popular Linux distr. to use?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:26:33 -0800

Big Joe wrote:
> What's the best/most popular Linux distr. to use?  Is there one that's
> better than the other, or runs more apps than others?  Or does it matter at
> all?  Which company keeps their Linux distr. most up to date?
>[...]
>

        I wonder if anyone has percentages for each distribution?

<just out of curiousity>
-het
 

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From: "Brian E. Seppanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Goofy apache "bug"
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:33:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> I have the following script, index.cgi, in my /home/httpd/html directory:
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> print "Content-type: text/html\n";

It's my understanding that standard http headers need to include two
newlines after the Content-type.  You only have one, therefore I suspect
it doesn't read it as http and prints it out as text.  Add another
newline as in print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; and you'll be all
set.  It certainly isn't an apache bug.   One of those minor mistakes
that can just throw a wrench in the whole works.  

Hope that helps.

Brian Seppanen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: What is the best/most popular Linux distr. to use?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:42:14 GMT

On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:26:33 -0800, Harvey Taylor wrote:

> I wonder if anyone has percentages for each distribution?
> <just out of curiousity>

<http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.html>

Thomas
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From: Shawn Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 versions of netscape and real player
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:30:04 GMT

Hello...

I am using Red Hat 6.1 and the version of Netscape that came with it was
4.61...
Well, I installed 4.72 but during installation it asked if it should be
installed in the default /opt/netscape directory and I said yes, but it
didn't upgrade 6.1.... so no big deal, I just linked my launchers to
/opt/netscape/netscape...
Here's the problem... I installed Real Player 7 and when I did it said
that there are two versions of netscape running and it was going to use
6.1...
How do I either...
Install 4.72 into the 6.1 directory so it upgrades 6.1 and can use
RealPlayer, or....
how do I get 4.72 and Real Player to work together...?

using:
RedHat 6.1
AMD 450Mhz processor
128 MB

Thanks...
shawn



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From: "Catilina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how install debian linux ?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:02:57 +0100

> how install debian linux ?

Check out the website www.debian.org, you'll find links to installation
notes, dowload sites, ...

Good luck!



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From: "Catilina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X won't start
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:11:58 +0100

A similar problem happened to me. I removed xdm (in order not to have X
start at boot) and then typed 'startx'. X started without a problem. I don't
know why though, it's totally irrational, but it worked for me ;-)

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Good luck,
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Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8bavec$9j6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm having some problems with X not starting up correctly.  When I boot
> up, everything goes fine until Linux tries to start up X.  I get the
> gray colored screen, with the X cursor, and then usually the screen
> would flash and I'd get a gui login.  However, at this point now it
> just sits there, and doesn't do a thing...I didn't let it sit for very
> long, so that might be the problem.
>
> I recently compiled kernel 2.2.14, upgrading from 2.2.5-15 (Red Hat
> 6).  That was two days ago, I haven't had any problems up until now.
>
> Any ideas what the problem may be, and how I could fix it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Andy
>
>
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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hot to make a bootable cdrom?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:29:56 GMT

Thanks for the advice, 

Cev.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: console buffer
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:27:31 GMT

On 25 Mar 2000 06:46:20 GMT, Frederic L. W. Meunier wrote:

> Hello. I used to use shift+page up in XTerm/rxvt without any problems,
> but noticed that when you try that in a console it only works if you
> don't move to another tty and come back. Is there any way to come
> back to a console and don't lose the buffer or should I start logging
> all output in a file?

This is due to how console scrollback is implemented with regards to
the card's video memory. I've read about it recently, unfortunately
I don't remember where. In short, when you switch from one VT to
another (or to X) and back, your scrollback buffer is gone for good,
and there's nothing you can do about it, IIRC (short of hacking the
scrollback buffer code, that is ;-).

HTH,
Thomas
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where is initial PATH defined?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:56:15 -0500

I have RH 6.0 and can't find where the initial system PATH string
is defined.  /etc/profile just appends /usr/X11R6/bin to the
existing PATH.  

I'm using the bash shell, but /etc/bash_profile just modifies
the existing PATH also, as do the .bashxxx files in my home
directory.

Can anyone help?

Regards,
Charles Sullivan   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "G. R. Gaudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xtraceroute problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:01:30 -0500

Hi all,
I've been trying to get xtraceroute to work for me, but even though I
have it installed, it won't work when I call it up. Is there something
special one has to do to get it working?

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